[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I'D LIKE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS THE AUGUST 7TH, 2024, REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHE'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ITEM NUMBER ONE WAS CALL A MEETING TO ORDER AT, UH, WE DID THAT AT 6:00 PM
[2. SEAT ALTERNATE TO ACT IF REQUIRED]
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS TO SEAT ALTERNATES IF REQUIRED.WE HAVE MR. UH, WALLACE JOINING US THIS EVENING.
[3. HEARING OF RESIDENTS This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the Planning and Zoning Commission. Each person should fill out the Speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than three (3) minutes. Discussion by the Commission of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]
NUMBER THREE IS THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE.ALL RIGHT, SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE, BUT, UM, LET ME JUST GO OVER IT REAL QUICK AGAIN.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, I WILL CALL THOSE NAMES IN THE ORDER THEY SIGNED UP AND YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, PLEASE ADDRESS THOSE REMARKS TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION IN GENERAL, AND NOT AT ANY ONE PARTICULAR, UH, COMMISSIONER.
WE ALSO HAVE ON THE, UH, AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, THREE, RIGHT, THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
DURING THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THAT TOPIC TO DO SO.
IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO SIGN THIS FORM.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE MEETING, I'LL EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE PUBLIC INPUT, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND, AND SPEAK TO US.
OKAY, SO LET ME READ THE OFFICIAL THING HERE.
HEARING OF RESIDENCE THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
EACH PERSON SHOULD FILL OUT THE SPEAKER'S REGISTER PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
PRESENTATION SHOULD BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, AND HOPEFULLY THE LITTLE TIMER THING WILL WORK THERE ON THE PODIUM.
UH, DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION OF ANY ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA SHALL BE LIMITED TO STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION GIVEN IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY, A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY AND OR A PROPOSAL TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A, IT'S NOT A TWO WEEK CONVERSATION.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL WRITE 'EM DOWN.
SOMEONE WILL GET WITH YOU LATER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THAT'S ME DURING THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE, PORTION OF THE AGENDA, WE'LL CALL ON THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER THEY HAVE REGISTERED.
SO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CHOOSE TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME, YOU HAVE THE OPTION IF, IF YOU CAN SPEAK HERE AND AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, OR YOU CAN WAIT AND TALK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CHOICE IS YOURS.
BUT AS YOU COME FORWARD, AS YOU PLEASE STEP UP CLOSE TO THE MIC SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
THIS IS, WELL, I READ ELLIOT CAN'T READ.
READY? UH, WELL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE.
I'M A NEW RESIDENT AT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, YEAH, HANG ON JUST A SECOND.
IS THAT I, I'M NOT SURE THAT MICROPHONE'S TURNED ON.
CAN SOMEONE SHUT THAT OFF CHECK? NO, NO.
JUST, OH, I WON'T CHARGE IT AGAINST YOU.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE MIC'S ON CHECK.
UH, I'M JUST, UH, NEW RESIDENT AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
AND, UH, LET ME SAY, IT'S A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE, UH, WITH MY FIANCE THERE.
UH, IT'S BEEN FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF NEGATIVE SENTIMENT ABOUT THIS GAS STATION THAT'S, UH, GONNA BE BUILT.
SO I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND SPEAK WITH, UH, AND EXPRESS THAT NEGATIVE SENTIMENT.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS OF WHO I AM.
I AM A BUSINESS ANALYST FOR METHODIST HOSPITAL.
I'M ALSO A REGISTERED NURSE AND I'M ALSO A VETERAN, UM, WITH DEPLOYMENTS TO IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, UM, TWO DEPLOYMENTS TO AFGHANISTAN.
SO A LOT OF EXPOSURES, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THOSE DEPLOYMENTS.
AND IT IS JUST, WE HAVE A LOT OF GAS STATIONS AND TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, ANOTHER GAS STATION.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO, UH, LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
AND I KNOW THERE'S REVENUE TO BE MADE, BUT JUST AN OVERALL, UH, I WANT TO PUT BEFORE, UH, THIS COMMITTEE A, A, A PROPOSAL THAT WE LOOK, YOU KNOW, AT OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES THE GAS STATION.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S AN ABUNDANCE OF GAS STATION AROUND THE CHURCH NEIGHBORHOOD.
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MAIN THING IS I WANT TO EXPRESS MY NEGATIVE SENTIMENT, UH, ON BEHALF OF MY HOUSEHOLD.AND THAT IT IS A NE A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE, WE WOULD LOVE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY AS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, FOR ALL OF US.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I'M A RES, UH, RESIDENT OF WILLOW GROVE AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS.
UM, I'VE BEEN A PART OF WILLOW GROVE SINCE 2016.
IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL, WELCOMING, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE SAFETY, UM, AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS FOR A GAS STATION BEING BUILT WITH THE INTEREST, THE WAYS THEY'RE GONNA COME.
UM, WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE, UM, OUR TRAFFIC SOMEWHAT SLOWED UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE GOT MORE TRAFFIC COMING DOWN TO 15, 18 THAN WE HAD EVER EXPERIENCED LIVING THERE.
SO WITH THE IDEA OF THE A GAS STATION, UM, THE ENTRANCE, THE EXITS, UM, THE SCHOOL BUSES, THE STUDENTS THAT, UM, WILL BE COMING OFF OF THESE BUSES, NOW WE'RE INTRODUCING MORE TRAFFIC FROM PEOPLE COMING INTO, UM, THIS ENTRANCEWAY OR THE EXIT WAY.
UM, WE EXPERIENCED, SAY FOR INSTANCE, WHEN, UH, THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE WAS BEING BUILT, MORE CARS DRIVING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE EXPERIENCED MORE ROBBERS, ROBBERIES IN OUR VEHICLES.
WE EXPERIENCED A WHOLE LOT MORE THINGS THAN WE HAD EVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.
UM, I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD, UM, TO THAT.
AND ALSO MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH, UM, NAVY VETERANS.
MY HUSBAND SERVED 23 YEARS EXPOSED TO CHEMICALS, EXPOSED TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, YOU KNOW, A SPILLAGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH, WITH THE GAS TANKS AND EVERYTHING ON THE GROUND, IT'S WHEN, YOU KNOW, UM, AND TRUTH BE TOLD, WHEN I FIR WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THERE, WE WERE TOLD THAT THOSE PROPERTIES BELONGED TO OUR HOUSING, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
IF I HAD HAVE KNOWN THAT A GAS STATION WAS AN OPTION, I WOULD'VE NEVER BUILT THERE.
AND, UH, TRUTH BE TOLD, IT MAY BE A REASON THAT I WILL SELL MY HOME.
MY HUSBAND DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE EXPOSED TO ANY MORE CHEMICALS PURPOSELY THAT WE PURPOSELY PUT HERE.
WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S PURPOSELY BEING PUT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC.
WE MOVED OUT HERE OFF TO 1518 FOR A REASON.
UM, AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF 'EM A GAS STATION.
WE CAN THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE, BUT A GAS STATION IS, IS NOT, IS NOT, IT IS NOT.
WE HAVE NEWBORN BABIES, WE HAVE MILITARY PEOPLE WITH, WITH LITTLE KIDS.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE WHEN IT HAPPENS.
AND, AND THESE PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT AND WE'RE PURPOSELY PLANNING TO PUT SOMETHING THERE, SOMETHING UNDERGROUND THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO AFFECT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT MOVES IN AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY CONSIDERED.
ALRIGHT, THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR HEARING OF RESIDENCE.
[4. CONSENT AGENDA:]
FOUR IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM A IS THE ELECTION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ITEM B OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 3RD, 2024 REGULAR MEETING.
UH, I AM GOING TO PULL ITEM A FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE, WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
UM, TECHNICALLY THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ALLOWED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE ELECTIONS WITHOUT, SO I'M GONNA PULL THAT OFF.
UM, ITEM B, THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 3RD, 2024, REGULAR MEETING COMMISSIONERS.
DO WE NEED TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION? NO, SIR.
IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM B.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER WALLACE, I HAVE A SECOND.
THAT WAS COMMISSIONER CARBONE.
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SEE I NEED TO MAKE A NOTE HERE.ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR B.
SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTES.
CAN WE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? WE HAVE SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL COME BACK NOW TO FOUR, A ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
UM, AND THE WAY THE CHAIRMAN WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT IS, UM, I THINK WE'LL START WITH CHAIRMAN.
I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
AND AFTER WE'RE DONE, IF ALL THE NOM, ONCE ALL THE NOMINATIONS ARE MADE, WE WILL THEN CLOSE THE NOMINATING PERIOD AND WE WILL, UH, DO A VOICE VOTE ON THE NOMINATIONS.
EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? ALRIGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME DO I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR CHAIRMAN? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. OUTLAW.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP WITH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ALRIGHT, SO I'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ME AS CHAIRMAN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS ARE OPEN.
I'M SORRY, WHO IS THAT? MS. GOLD.
I NOMINATE RICHARD AS COMMISSIONER.
BROAD, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NO NOMINATION FOR I CANNOT ACCEPT THE NOMINATION AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, SO MS. GOLD DICK IS REFUSING.
SO THEN SHE HAS NOMINATED COMMISSIONER, BRO.
DO I HAVE ANYONE ELSE? NOBODY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE IT WITH COMMISSIONER, BRO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER BRO AS VICE CHAIR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
HOW HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING THEY NO.
WE GOTTA HAVE A LITTLE FUN NOW AND THEN, 'CAUSE THE NEXT PART IS USUALLY NOT FUN.
JUST CURIOUS, SHOW OF HANDS, HOW, HOW MANY WERE HERE LAST YEAR WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS? MOST OF YOU? OKAY.
[5. PUBLIC HEARING: The Planning and Zoning Commission will hold a public hearing related to zone change requests, specific use permit requests, and Unified Development Code Amendments within this agenda. The public hearing will be opened to receive a report from staff, the applicant, the adjoining property owners affected by the applicant’s request, and any other interested persons. Upon completion, the public hearing will be closed. The Commission will discuss and consider the application, and may request additional information from staff or the applicant, if required. After deliberation, the Commission is asked to consider and act upon the following requests and make a recommendation to the City Council if necessary.]
WE'RE AT ITEM FIVE NOW, WHICH IS PUBLIC HEARING.THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS, AND UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.
WITHIN, WITHIN THIS AGENDA, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPEN TO RECEIVE A REPORT FROM STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AND ANY OTHER INTERESTED PERSONS UPON COMPLETION.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED.
THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION AND MAY REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT IF REQUIRED.
AFTER DELIBERATION, THE COMMISSION IS ASKED TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IF NECESSARY.
AND I, I WILL START OFF BY SAYING ALL THREE OF THESE ISSUES ARE ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS ON OUR PART.
THE FINAL DECISION IS MADE BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO VERY QUICKLY, THE WAY THESE WORK WILL, ONE BY ONE STAFF WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
AND THEN IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND WANTS TO GIVE AN GIVE AN APP, UH, A PRESENTATION THERE, THEY CAN DO.
AFTER THOSE TWO PRESENTATIONS, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT POINT, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS US ON THAT TOPIC IS FREE.
FEEL FREE TO STEP TO THE MICROPHONE.
I NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ONCE AGAIN, WHEN EVERYONE HAS HAD THEIR SAY ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC INPUT AND AT THAT POINT, THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS IT.
I WANNA MAKE, I JUST WANT TO IT, I WANT, I WANNA MAKE IT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO, THERE'S NO TWO WAY DISCUSSION HERE.
YOU GET TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO US AND THEN WE GET TO TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY? BUT THERE, THERE WON'T BE ANY BACK AND FORTH.
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THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.UM, AND, UH, UH, AGAIN, THREE MINUTES.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LIGHTS WORKING YET.
TYPICALLY THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I DON'T KNOW, AROUND TWO AND A HALF OR SOMETHING.
THE YELLOW LIGHT WILL COME ON.
AND AT THREE, THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON.
IF YOU'RE STILL TALKING WHEN THE RED LIGHT COMES ON, DON'T PANIC.
I WILL JUST ASK YOU AT THAT POINT TO TRY TO WRAP IT UP OKAY? UH, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON AND WE DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT.
SO ITEM FIVE A IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
E-L-S-P-U 20 24 0 1 4 2 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 1.61 ACRES OF LAND KNOWN AS BEAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 3 9 6 0 3 8, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND SCHAEFER ROAD, CITY OF SHEZ, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, SAM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 4 0 1 4 2 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS.
LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SCHAFER ROAD ON FM 1518 SAMUEL HAAS SENIOR PLANNER.
ALL RIGHT, JUST TO GET OUR BEARINGS HERE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN SCHAFER ROAD TO THE NORTH FM 1518 RIGHT HERE TO THE EAST WILLOW GROVE SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.61 ACRES OF LAND.
IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IT IS ZONED FOR GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
ON JULY 26 18, PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE MAILED, UH, RE RESPONSES RECEIVED.
AS THIS PRESENTATION WAS BEING PUT TOGETHER THERE WE HAD 20 OPPOSED AND ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
SO PER THE APPLICANT LETTER OF INTENT, THEY'RE PROPOSING A STRIP CENTER WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE, A GAS STATION WITH ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS AND A SHOPPING CENTER.
AND PER THE UDC, THE GAS PUMPS SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
SO IN EVALUATING, UH, THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, WE LOOK AT UDC SECTION 21 5 11 D AND I'LL READ THESE ONE AT A TIME.
SO NUMBER ONE, THE PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIF SPECIFIED LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES EMBODIED IN THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PAN PLAN.
THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HERE WITH THE BLUE STAR, UH, WHICH IS OFFERS A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES ALONG WITH SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL.
THE COMMERCIAL PROVISION THAT'S WITHIN THIS PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SPEC, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS.
GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SUITABLE AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH OFFER A WIDE VARIETY OF RETAIL AND SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS GENERALLY ORIENTATED TOWARDS SERVING THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THE STRIP CENTER WITH GAS PUMPS WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS EITHER ONSITE OR WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY TO MITIGATE DEVELOPMENT RELATED ADVERSE IMPACTS SUCH AS SAFETY, TRAFFIC, NOISE, ODORS, VISUAL NUISANCES, DRAINAGE, OR OTHER SIMILAR ADVERSE EFFECTS TO ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, SO THERE IS ADJACENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THERE IS ALSO NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO AS YOU SEE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING DISTRICTS IN BLUE GOING ALL UP AND DOWN F AND 1518.
THERE IS AN ADJACENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE NORTH.
AND SO IN THAT SENSE THE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.
NUMBER FOUR, THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT GENERATE PEDESTRIAN VEHICLE TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD BE HAZARDOUS OR CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTED AND ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPERTY DOES ABUT THREE SEPARATE RIGHTS OF WAY AND THIS WILL HELP TO MINIMIZE CONFLICT WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC.
THOSE RIGHT OF WAY ARE SCHAEFER ROAD, BROOKE ORCHARD, AND ALSO FM 1518.
OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW A MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE TIME OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
NUMBER FIVE, THE PROPOSED USE INCORPORATES ROADWAY ADJUSTMENTS, TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES OR MECHANISMS AND ACCESS RESTRICTIONS TO CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW OR DIVERT TRAFFIC MAY BE NEEDED TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE DEVELOPMENT GEN GENERATED TRAFFIC OR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED ANYTHING DEMONSTRATING ROADWAY ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, AGAIN, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW A MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE TIME OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AND WILL DETERMINE
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WHAT MITIGATION METHODS WILL BE REQUIRED AT THAT POINT.THE PROPOSED USE INCORPORATES FEATURES TO MINIMIZE ADVERSE EFFECTS, INCLUDING VISUAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED USE ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO ARTICLE NINE OF OUR UDC IS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THESE ADVERSE IMPACTS ARE MITIGATED AND MINIMIZED SUCH AS THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE LI ARE INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL.
A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER LIGHTING SETBACKS THAT ARE EQUAL TO THE LIGHTING HEIGHT.
LIGHT SOURCES ALSO MUST BE CONCEALED FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR UDC TO HELP MINIMIZE AND MITIGATE THE ADVERSE EFFECTS.
AND AS AN EXAMPLE OF A SIMILAR PROPERTY, THIS IS ON LIVE OAK AND SHIRTZ PARKWAY, WHERE MY CURSOR IS, IS A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
HERE'S A STREET VIEW OF THAT SAME PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE, THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT LIGHTING IS, HAS TO BE SHIELDED FROM THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL.
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE MITIGATION MESSAGES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO.
SO NUMBER SEVEN, THE PROPOSED USE MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR ZONING DISTRICT, OR TO THE EXTENT VARIATIONS FROM SUCH STANDARDS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED THAT SUCH VARIATIONS ARE NECESSARY TO RENDER THE USE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJOINING DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE DIMENSIONAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AS STIPULATED IN UC.
SECTION 2157, NO VARIATIONS TO THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED EITHER.
NUMBER EIGHT, THE PROPOSED USE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND THE SAFE, ORALLY EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT AND HEALTH DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO AS PART OF PROMOTING HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRADITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
AND AS MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND ALSO THE NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL.
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, THE, WHENEVER WE LIKE TO ENCOURAGE TRANSITIONAL USES IN BETWEEN PRINCIPAL ARTERIALS AND RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THIS WOULD SERVE THAT PURPOSE AS THIS IS A, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL FUNCTION HERE.
SHIRTS, FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS WERE NOTIFIED OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS AND HAVE HAD NO OBJECTIONS.
NUMBER NINE, NO APPLICATIONS MADE UNDER THIS PROVISION WILL RECEIVE FINAL PERMIT UNTIL ALL BACK TAXES ARE OWED TO THE BEST OF STAFF KNOWLEDGE.
NO BACK TAXES ARE OWED AND THIS DOES NOT IMPACT RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AND NUMBER 10, OTHER CRITERIA WHICH HAVE THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
STAFF HAS ENSURED THAT ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND AT THIS TIME HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PL SPU 2 0 2 4 0 1 4 2 CONDITION BOND.
THE FOLLOWING, A BUILDING PERMIT IS APPROVED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE SP ORDINANCE.
SAM IS THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, I'LL BEGIN BY, I'M SURE OF THESE.
YOU ALL READ THE STAFF REPORT.
YOU WE WERE HERE SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE BACK? WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND WE GET TO THE COUNCIL HEARING AND I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
I GO TO NEW BRAUNFELS SHIRTS,
AND YOU'RE, UH, YOUR PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO WE HAD THE, THE COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING, THEN THEY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL THEN COUNCIL HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS WHEN THEY STARTED DEBATING THE CASE AMONGST THEMSELVES.
I CAN'T JUMP UP, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
AND I COULDN'T EVEN ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
I WOULD'VE ASKED FOR A CONTINUOUS AND USE THAT TIME TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I DIDN'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO THEY, THEY HAD A QUICK VOTE AND IT GOT DENIED.
SO WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S WAIT.
LET'S, YOU KNOW, QUIETLY MARKET THE PROPERTY, SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, TO LOCATE A BUSINESS THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOTHING WE LIKE OR NOT A GOOD, GOOD OPPORTUNITY, WE'LL COME BACK.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, WE DID REACH OUT AND THE ONLY, THE ONLY INTEREST WE HAD IN THE PROPERTY WAS FAST FOOD CHAINS.
AND THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO DO A FAST FOOD STRIP RIGHT THERE.
UM, OUR GOAL HERE IS TO DO A CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION WITH THE ELECTRIC CHARGING AND TO HAVE A LITTLE STRIP CENTER.
AND THE STRIP CENTER WILL HAVE YOUR NORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE A DRY CLEANERS, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A NAIL SALON THIS LITTLE, MAYBE A SANDWICH SHOP, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
I MEAN, THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY GENERAL BUSINESS AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBOR HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACCESS WE HAVE TO, BROOKE ORCHARDS THE LITTLE STREET THAT STUBBS OUT TO FM 1518.
BUT THE DEVELOPER, WHEN HE, WHEN HE DID A MASTER DEVELOPMENT RAMP FOR THE PROPERTY, HE PLANNED THAT.
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PART OF OUR ACCESS.WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SHIRTS, WE, I'M SORRY, SCHAFER ROAD, UM, BROOK ORCHARD AND FM 1518, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN, IS UNDER A HUGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
THAT'S GONNA BE A MAJOR ARTERIAL BETWEEN FM 78 AND I IH 10.
THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THESE, THE, THE SMALL SHOPPING CENTER OF THE GAS STATION IS, IS NOT GONNA BE A HUGE EFFECT ON THAT FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GASOLINE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THERE.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA MENTION BENZENE 'CAUSE THEY DID THE LAST TIME.
UM, YOU GET MORE EXPOSURE TO BENZENE WHEN YOU PUT GAS IN YOUR CAR THAN YOU'RE EVER GONNA GET FROM BEING A RESIDENT LIVING BEHIND THIS GAS STATION.
WHEN WE'VE ALL, IF YOU PUT GAS IN YOUR CAR, YOU PUT GAS IN YOUR LAWNMOWER, YOU SPILL A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR FENDER, YOU SPILL A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU'RE GETTING MORE EXPOSURE TO BENZENE THAN YOU'RE GONNA GET FROM THIS GAS STATION AS JUST A CITIZEN LIVING BEHIND IT.
AND IF YOU LOOK, I SUBMITTED, WE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN TO STAFF.
THEY DIDN'T PUT IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE THE GAS PUMPS AS CLOSE TO THE CORNER OF 1518 AND SCHAFER ROAD AS WE CAN.
THE GAS TANKS UNDERGROUND THAT ARE FULLY REGULATED BY THE TCEQ WILL ALSO BE OUT ON THAT, ON THAT CORNER.
AND THEN BETWEEN THAT YOU HAVE THE GAS PUMPS, THEN YOU HAVE THE GAS STATION, WHICH OUR GAS STATION SHOPPING CENTER BASICALLY IS A THIN RECTANGULAR BUILDING THAT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH FROM SCHAEFER ROAD SOUTH.
SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE THEIR EXISTING MASONRY FENCE, THE FENCE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BUILDING AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE GAS PUMPS AND THEN IN FRONT OF THAT THEY'LL HAVE THE GAS TANKS.
AND I, I WOULD ALMOST OUT FOR THERE BE MORE POLLUTION COMING FROM FM 1518 THAN FROM OUR GAS STATION.
SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE DECIDED TO COME BACK AND SEE IF WE COULD TRY AGAIN.
UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE GAS STATION.
WE THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THE AREA.
YES, THERE ARE GAS STATIONS ON FM 78 AND THERE ARE GAS STATIONS ON IH 10, BUT I'M SURE Y'ALL KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.
THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES COMING IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO THOROUGHFARES.
SO, UM, CLEARLY WE THINK IT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR A GAS STATION AND WE THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD BE A GOOD USE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SO WE WOULD JUST, WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
AND JUST A QUICK COMMENT, I I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CITY COUNCIL, BUT DURING OUR DISCUSSION WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
JUST LIKE WE CAN ASK STAFF QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT, WHAT I'M GONNA DO NOW, IT IS, UH, 6:27 PM AND I'M GONNA OPEN THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY, NOW YOU DON'T, DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND, JUST COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
I NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND AGAIN, TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
SO, UH, NO REASON TO YET, NO NEED TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 2 2 4 ARAR SKY.
AND, UH, I'VE SPENT 40 YEARS WITH MY HAND IN FUEL, UH, 20 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE, 20 YEARS FOR THE DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY.
AND I'VE BEEN A HAULING FUEL OR INSPECTING GAS STATION SINCE I WAS 17.
SO, UH, AS A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I REALLY WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU THAT OUR CONCERNS ARE VERY LEGITIMATE AND MO MOST OF THEM ARE SAFETY ORIENTED.
UH, BEFORE I RETIRED I RAN, OF COURSE AN ARTICLE THAT SOMEBODY WROTE, UH, DOWN AT HOUSTON, A QUESTION THAT THEY SENT TO EARTH TALK.
AND I KNOW I ONLY HAVE LIMITED TIME, BUT I WANTED TO READ A COUPLE EXTRACTS BECAUSE TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS IN WILLOW GROVE AND OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, BOTH SIDES OF WILLOW GROVE, THESE ARE THE CONCERNS I'M HEARING.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY RELEVANT TODAY.
AND I, I PLEASE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THEM.
THE LETTER STARTS OFF, DEAR EARTH TALK.
I'M LOOKING AT POSSIBLY BUYING A HOUSE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO A GASOLINE STATION.
IS IT SAFE TO LIVE SO CLOSE TO A GAS STATION? THE CONCERNS I HAVE ARE, ARE THAT I HAVE TODDLERS AND I HAVE INFANT BABIES.
DESPITE ALL MODERN HEALTH AND SAFETY GUIDELINES, THEY MUST FOLLOW.
GAS STATIONS CAN STILL POST SIGNIFICANT HAZARDS TO NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN.
SOME OF THE PERILS INCLUDE GROUND LEVEL OZONE CAUSED IN PART BY GASOLINE FUMES, GROUNDWATER HAZARDS FROM PETROLEUM PRODUCTS THAT LEAK INTO THE GROUND AND EXPOSURE HAZARDS FROM OTHER CHEMICALS, CHEMICALS THAT MIGHT BE USED.
IT'S TRUE THAT MOST GAS PUMPS TODAY MUST HAVE GOVERNMENT REGULATED VAPOR RECOVERY BOOTS ON THEIR NOZZLES.
UH, AND THEY LIMIT THE RELEASE OF GAS VAPORS WHILE THEY'RE REFUELING THE CAR.
THEY HAVE A SIMILAR SYSTEM FOR THE HOSES.
THEY USED TO OFFLOAD THE TRUCKS, BUT THESE BOOTS AREN'T ALWAYS WORKING PROPERLY.
AND THE NEARLY BORDERLESS HYDROCARBON FUMES, WHICH CONTAIN HARMFUL CHEMICALS, CAN BE RELEASED INTO THE AIR.
AND THEY ARE HIGH OZONE LEVELS CAN LEAD TO RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS IN ASTHMA.
WHILE BENZENE IS A KNOWN CANCER CAUSING AGENT UNDERGROUND, GASOLINE TANKS CAN ALSO BE A PROBLEM.
MANY LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST, UH, OIL FIRMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY 'CAUSE GROUNDWATER
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WAS FILED BY GAS STATIONS LEAKING IN UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS, THOUSANDS OF GAS, GALLONS OF GASOLINE ENTER THE SOIL.CHEMICALS TRAVEL TO GROUNDWATER.
AND THE EP SAYS A SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER FOR NEARLY HALF OF THE US IF BUYING A HOME, CONSIDER ITS POSS POTENTIAL LOSS IN PROPERTY VALUE IF A NEARBY UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK WERE TO LEAK.
I CAN TELL YOU GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT THOSE PROPERTIES, I'VE BEEN IN THAT SUBDIVISION SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.
WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WEREN'T ZONE FOR THIS KIND OF BUSINESS.
AND THIS IS A SURPRISE TO ALL OF US.
WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE AIR FORCE AND I DID MY SECOND CAREER HERE, I WOULD'VE NEVER PICKED THAT HOME.
AND I CAN SPEAK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE HAD I KNOWN THERE WAS GONNA BE A GAS STATION VERY NEARBY.
AS YOU'RE PROPOSING NOW, YOU'LL NOTICE ON MY SHIRT I HAVE A THING THAT SAYS FUELING THE FORCES, WHICH I DID FOR FORCES YEARS.
THERE'S A TIME AND PLACE FOR SERVICE STATIONS.
WE NEED 'EM, HAVE TO HAVE 'EM TODAY.
THAT PLACE IS NOT RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOUSES.
AND I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IF THAT WAS YOUR HOUSE AND THAT WAS A GAS STATION BEING BUILT RIGHT BESIDE WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE PLAYING AND CONSIDER.
ALSO THE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS THE FUEL TRUCKS, WHICH I DROVE FOR YEARS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE DRIVING INTO THAT AREA, DUMPING FUEL LOADS AND, AND AND, AND, AND LEAVING, WHICH IS A VERY DANGEROUS OPERATION IN ITSELF RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOUSES.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY FOLKS AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 1 6 PECAN BRANCH.
MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT THIS GREAT BUSINESSMAN IS TRYING TO BUILD, UH, THIS GAS STATION.
BUT I'M HERE TO SHARE NOT JUST THE PERSONAL CONCERN OF HAVING THAT TYPE OF A BUSINESS RIGHT BEHIND MY BACKYARD, BUT IT'S REALLY MORE THE CONCERN FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES THERE.
IT IS THE COMMUNITIES, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WILL ATTEND SCHOOL AT, AT THE SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND JUST FOR THE DOWN THE ROAD.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS FOR ME IS ASIDE FROM THE CHEMICALS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME DATA, UH, OF INFORMATION, JUST LIKE YOU HEARD THE PREVIOUS TIME WHEN WE WERE HERE, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THIS GENTLEMAN DID IN THE PREVIOUS ONE IS HE DISPLAYED THE ACTUAL PLANS WHERE HE IS GONNA HAVE ENTRANCE AND EXITS GOING INTO THE PROPERTY.
MY CONCERN WHILE 1518 IS GONNA BE EXPANDED, THERE IS GONNA BE WALK SIDEWALKS AND AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN USE THEIR BIKE OR RUN.
AND IF THAT AREA IS GONNA CROSS THE ENTRANCES WHERE THOSE INDIVIDUALS, FAMILY MEMBERS OF OURS AND OTHER FRIENDS OF US ARE GOING USE THAT LOCATION, THE POTENTIAL OF SAFETY IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN WHERE NOW THERE IS A DOLLARS, UH, GENERAL RIGHT THERE, AS THAT EXPANSION CONTINUES, THE USAGE OF THAT, THOSE PROPERTIES WILL CREATE SOMEWHAT OF A TRAFFIC EFFECT OVER TIME.
AS YOU SEE FM 1518 IS EXPANDING, THE BUSES COMING IN AND OUT, TRAFFIC GOING, US GOING INTO OUR PRO TO OUR COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE THOSE NOW FIGHTING FOR US TO TRY TO GET IN, UH, INTO OUR HOMES AND THEM TRYING TO GET INTO THE GAS STATION.
THE DISTANCE TO THAT LOCATION IS NOT THAT FAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S PROBABLY ONLY 300 KILOMETERS BY THE TIME YOU HIT THE ACTUAL, UH, UH, INTERSECTION.
THINK OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN THERE.
SO FOR ME, THAT'S A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN TO, I HAVE MY GRANDSON LIVING WITH ME AND A BUNCH OF OTHER CHILDREN, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THEM.
SOMEONE MENTIONED HERE THAT WE AS VETERANS, 'CAUSE I RETIRED FROM THE ARMY, UH, WITH 24 YEARS AND THE EXPOSURE THROUGH OUR DEPLOYMENTS THAT ALL OF US HAVE HAD IN THOSE TWO LOCATIONS THAT WE DEPLOYED IN AMONG OTHERS, UH, IS A CONCERN FOR US AS WE CONTINUE TO GET OLD.
UH, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS THAT IS VERY CRITICAL, NOT JUST TO US BUT TO OUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
THE BIGGEST ASPECT OF ALL OF THIS IS THE SECURITY FOR ME.
SECURITY AS THOSE, UH, WHILE THE LIGHTS WILL BE DIMMED AND TO SAY IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOU, WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO STILL BE, PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN AFFECTING THE PROPERTY THAT IS GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
WHILE I DON'T WANNA BE PERSONAL, I DON'T WANNA SOUND SELFISH 'CAUSE MY PROPERTY'S DIRECTLY BEHIND.
I WANT TO COLLECTIVELY EXPRESS OUR CONCERN TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WHILE THIS PROPERTY, WHILE GAS STATION SAY IT IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S NEEDED, WE DO HAVE TWO, AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD, MAYBE THREE AND MAYBE EVEN FOUR ALREADY, ONLY TWO MILES OF DISTANCE FROM OUR LOCATIONS.
CONSIDER THE SCHOOLS, CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC, CONSIDER THE INQUIRY, THE WALKING AND RUNNING TRAFFIC THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN THERE, PLEASE.
AND CONSIDER US THAT LIVE CLOSE BY AS WE GET EXPOSED TO THIS, UH, UH, THESE CHEMICALS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY THERE.
NOW, IF A BUSINESS IS A STARBUCKS, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO PUT A GATE ON MY DOOR SO I CAN HAVE BREAKFAST FOR MY WIFE AND COFFEE EVERY MORNING.
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SO ANY BUSINESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A BUSINESS, BUT DOES IT HAVE TO BE A GAS STATION? KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY WANNA SPREAD MY CONCERN AND KNOW OTHERS ARE GONNA COME WITH SOME MORE DETAILED INFORMATION.UH, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.
HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTINA BROWN, 11 7 0 9 CYPRESS BARN.
AND SO MY CONCERN LIES WITH WILLOW GROVE, IS UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT IT BACKS UP TO THE BASE, ESSENTIALLY BACKS UP TO THE BASE.
I JOG IN THE MORNING AND DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER AND THE WIND DIRECTION, SOMETIMES I GET HIT WITH THE SMELL OF JP EIGHT.
SO IF I HAVE JET FUEL ON THE BACK END AND I'M DRIVE AND I'M JOGGING MY TRAIL, AND NOW I HAVE INCREASED POLLUTION FROM HAVING A GAS STATION, IDLING VEHICLES, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE, I THINK THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER PLACES ON 1518 THAT MAY BETTER BE SUITED FOR THE GAS STATION THAT DON'T BACK UP TO CURRENT HAZARDS ALREADY.
HELLO, MY NAME IS CARLY GENTRY.
UM, I LIVE AT 1 0 4 1 3 AURORA SKY.
MANY FOLKS HERE IN SHIRTZ THOUGH KNOW ME AS DR. GENTRY BECAUSE I SERVE AS THEIR PRIMARY EYE CARE PROVIDER.
SO I'VE REALLY COME TO LOVE THIS COMMUNITY HERE IN SHIRTZ.
UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING AT WILLOW GROVE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
I LIVE WITH MY TWO YOUNG BOYS AND MY HUSBAND WHO IS ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY.
AND SO WE'VE ALL SEEN THE INCREASE IN POPULATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THIS INCREASE IN POPULATION, THERE'S NEED FOR INCREASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT WE MUST BE SMART ABOUT HOW, WHEN AND WHERE WE PLACE THESE FACILITIES.
THERE ARE A FEW UNIQUE ASPECTS ABOUT THE BUSINESS MODEL OF A GAS STATION THAT I WANNA POINT OUT.
ONE OF THEM BEING THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT USE A GAS STATION, IT'S QUICK.
THEY COME IN, THEY FILL UP, THEY LEAVE.
UM, SO IN OTHER BUSINESSES, THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC WOULD SEEM SUSPICIOUS, BUT AT A GAS STATION IT'S NORMAL.
SO THERE ARE OTHER KINDS OF TRANSACTIONS THAT CAN OCCUR WHEN THERE'S A VERY QUICK, YOU KNOW, ENTER AND EXIT.
WHAT I'M REFERRING TO, OF COURSE, IS POTENTIAL DRUG TRANSACTIONS, THEFT OR EVEN ARMED ROBBERY.
UM, SO MY RESEARCH INDICATES THAT CRIMINALS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEFT THIEVES, THEY, THEY PREFER THESE KIND OF BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUSPICIOUS, IT'S UNDER THE RADAR FOR THEM.
BUT IF AN INCIDENT WERE TO OCCUR SO CLOSE TO WHERE WE LIVE, IT WOULD BE SUPER EASY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO FLEE OR EVEN HIDE, UM, OR GOD FORBID THERE BE GUNFIRE AND WE'RE IN THE LINE OF FIRE.
SO, UM, IT'S ALSO A MADE TO ORDER, UH, STOP FOR A LOT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND FOR ADDICTS, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT STRUGGLE WITH ADDICTION BECAUSE THERE'S LONG HOURS, THERE'S ACCESS TO ALCOHOL AND ACCESS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH FOR FREE HANDOUTS.
AND SO, I MEAN, THE RISK OF THIS BUSINESS, THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS IS JUST NOT WORTH IT.
I MEAN, Y'ALL MAY BE THINKING, OKAY, CARLY, WE SEE THAT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO IF THESE INCIDENCES OCCUR.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU DO HAVE CONTROL OVER WHETHER PUTTING THIS BUSINESS IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE WE LIVE WOULD INCREASE THE CHANCES OF THESE INCIDENCES HAPPENING.
SO I JUST STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AS A MOM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE HEAR WHAT WE SAY BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO DISTANCE MY BOYS FROM THIS POTENTIAL HARM OF THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 8 PECAN BRANCH.
VERY CLOSE TO THE, UH, PROPOSAL.
I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE OFFICER, UH, AND PRIOR ENLISTED ARMY GUY WHO DID ABOUT 24 YEARS OF ACTIVE DUTY WITH, UH, TOURISM IN BOTH DESERT STORM AND AFGHANISTAN.
CURRENTLY SOER SERVING ON RANDOLPH, WHERE I'M IN CHARGE OF THE FORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL, UH, AIR FORCE SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS.
UH, I OPPOSE THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, UH, AS MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS HAVE MENTIONED AND WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION.
UH, WE HAVE MANY CONCERNS WITH THE GAS STATION, UH, BEING CONSTRUCTED.
SONY, OUR HOMES AND, UH, THE SCHOOLS THAT EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN FOCUSED ON ENOUGH HERE IS HOW CLOSE THIS CONSTRUCTION IS TO THE SCHOOLS.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH VENT PIPES AND BENZENE THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKE ABOUT.
AND, UH, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH CRIME.
GAS STATIONS ARE KNOWN TO ATTRACT VIOLENT CRIME.
AND THE FACT THAT OUR HOMES ARE SO
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CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL IS VERY CONCERNING.MY WIFE'S, UH, MY WIFE IS SITTING HERE.
HER SISTER WAS SHOT AT A GAS STATION, UH, WHILE SHE WAS FEELING.
SO THIS IS CLOSE TO HOME FOR US.
UH, AND OF COURSE WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE IMPACT OF OUR HOMELESS VALUES.
AND IN ADDITION, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WHAT I'M HERE TO FOCUS ON.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXPANSION OF 1518.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A, UH, IT'S GROWING QUITE A BIT.
UH, THE RED LINES SHOW WHERE IT'S GONNA GROW TO WHICH, UH, REDUCES THE SIZE THAT THIS PLOT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BE ON.
UM, AND FURTHER YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, SPEAKING OF THE SCHOOL WHEN IN SESSION, UH, THIS AREA IS INCREDIBLY HIGH TRAFFIC WITH THE PRIMARY OUT OUTLET OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL.
JUST A SHORT DISTANCE, UH, FROM A STOPLIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE DOLLAR GENERAL.
UH, THE PLAN TO ACCESS TO THE GAS STATION IS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S ENTRANCE.
UH, AS, UH, TEXAS DOT WON'T ALLOW ACCESS FROM 1518.
THIS WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC AND WILL INEVITABLY CAUSE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AS PEOPLE ENTER AND EXIT THE GAS STATION DURING PEAK TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO TO WORK AND TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.
EVEN TODAY, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO TURNAROUNDS AFTER THEY DROP THEIR KIDS OFF.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE SCHOOL HERE.
THEIR PROPOSED ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS RIGHT HERE ON WHERE WE GO IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE OTHER SIDE IS OVER HERE WHERE LIGHT IS.
THIS IS A VERY SHORT AREA HERE.
UH, KEEP IN MIND AS, UH, OUR, MY NEIGHBOR SAID, THIS ISN'T JUST THE PEOPLE GETTING GAS, THESE ARE THE FUEL TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT AS WELL.
THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT SPACE FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC'S SO BAD, IN FACT THAT, UH, POLICE ARE OFTEN STATIONED, UH, DOWN HERE WHERE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS.
SO WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION NEXT WEEK, IF YOU WERE TO COME OUT HERE, I EXPECT YOU'D SEE POLICE HERE CONTROLLING ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THIS ROAD.
AND THIS ROAD GETS COMPLETELY BACKED UP AS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE SCHOOL AND MAKE THEIR DROP OFFS.
UH, NOW ADD TO THAT, AS A RULE OF THUMB, EACH PROPOSED PUMP AT THE GAS STATION SHOULD GENERATE BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED, 130 VISITS A DAY.
THAT CAN MEANS, CAN BE CONVENIENCE.
STORE ITSELF, DEPENDING ON ITS SIZE, UH, WILL BRING IN ANOTHER ONE TO 2000 TRIPS PER DAY.
SO WE'RE TALKING UP TO 2,500 TRIPS, UH, IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD USING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE EACH DAY.
UH, MUCH OF THIS CONCENTRATED, UH, DURING THE PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES.
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA PICK, GET YOUR GAS? IT'S WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO, TO DRAW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE NEAR THE SCHOOL.
AND FINALLY, WITH RESPECT TO PROPERTY VALUES, HOMES WITHIN A HUNDRED METERS CAN EXPECT TO LOSE ABOUT 16% OF THEIR PROPERTY VALUE.
AND HOMES WITHIN 600 METERS CAN LOSE UP TO 9% OF THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH IS A LOT OF, UH, TAX REVENUE, UH, AND LOSS OF HOMES, YOU KNOW, VALUED OUR HOMES AND, AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A CONCERN TO US.
A LOT, A LOT OF, A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
UM, BILL ETTE 1 0 4 2 5 BOWIE.
WHEN WE CLOSE IT, THERE ARE EXACTLY 23 GAS STATIONS, LESS THAN THREE MILES FROM WHERE WE LIVE OVER 65.
YOU REALLY DON'T NEED IT AS FAR AS THE SAFETY I BROUGHT UP LAST TIME IS 20 FOOT FROM 15 AND 18 SHAFER ROAD, WHERE THE DOLLAR GENERAL COMES OUT, WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING WHERE A GAS STATION, IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN 20 FEET.
I'VE BEEN ALMOST T-BONED A FEW TIMES, TURNING, COMING HOME, PEOPLE SHOOTING OUT AT THE DOLLAR GENERAL.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
IT'S, WE'RE CITIZENS, WE LIVE HERE.
GOTTA UNDERSTAND, WE GOTTA WORRY ABOUT OUR FAMILIES AND WE GOT A DOLLAR GENERAL.
DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER CONVENIENCE STORE ACROSS THE STREET? WE DON'T NEED NEITHER ONE.
THANK YOU MEAN I'M MARY STANDER.
I'M AT 1 0 3 0 5 OWL AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS SUMMER, COVID HIT US
UM, I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE FACT THAT THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION IS GOING TO DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES, AND I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE FACT THAT THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION COULD INCREASE CRIME.
I DRIVE A CAR AND I RELY ON GAS STATIONS TO FUEL MY CAR AND GET ME FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE B WORD BENZENE AND TO ASK WHAT PROTECTION WILL BE PUT IN PLACE TO KEEP EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN SAFE FROM THE BENZENE THAT'S RELEASED INTO THE AIR THROUGH EVAPORATION WHEN FILLING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS.
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION CLASSIFIES BENZENE AS A KNOWN CARCINOGEN AND LONG-TERM EXPOSURE CAN HAVE HARMFUL EFFECTS ON THE BODY
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AND CAUSE CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA AND OTHER BLOOD DISEASES OR CANCER, SORRY.I'M HERE TO ASK, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN THE VAPOR RECOVERY BOOTS AREN'T PROPERLY WORKING AND THE NEARLY ODORLESS HYDROCARBON FUMES WHICH CONTAIN BENZENE ARE RELEASED INTO THE AIR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO RISK THE LIFE OF A CHILD OR ANYONE ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER LOST ANYONE TO CANCER, BUT I HAVE.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER A LOCATION THAT'S NOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SCHOOL.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 9 PECAN BRANCH.
UM, AS SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT ALREADY, THE MAJOR I ISSUE WITH THE GAS STATION IS THE BENZENE, JUST LIKE MY MOST RECENT NEIGHBOR SPOKE ABOUT.
AND AS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, YOU DO GET EXPOSED TO MORE BENZENE IF YOU SPILL IT ON YOURSELF, BUT THE MAIN THING HE DID NOT SPECIFY IS INTENSITY.
ANYONE CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU GET HIT WITH A LOT WHEN YOU GET POURED ON, BUT JUST LIKE WITH A BANK COUNT, YOU DON'T WANT $1 OR ONE TIME PAYMENT.
SAME WITH GAS STATIONS, SAME WITH BENZENE.
OVER TIME, YOU'RE GONNA GET EXPOSED TO MORE AND MORE THAN YOU WANT.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS WITHIN GRADUAL INCREASES, THE TANKS WILL EVENTUALLY LEAK.
IT'S JUST HOW OH, UH, OSMOSIS WORKS.
EVERYTHING ESCAPES ITS CONTAINMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, UNLESS YOU HAVE VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT, IT'S VERY HARD TO DETECT.
I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY THE VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY AREA IS PROTECTED FROM THOSE SENSORS NOT FAILING.
SO I DO EXPECT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
EVERYONE HERE EXPECTS IT'LL BE DEVELOPED.
IT IS A GENERAL BUSINESS, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE DEVELOPED AS SOMETHING MORE APPLICABLE TO A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU WILL FIND MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE BENEFIT IF THE FAMILIES IN THIS AREA CAN WALK AND USE THE SIDEWALK THAT IS GOING TO BE PUT IN WITH 1518 TO BETTER BENEFIT THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA.
I LIVE AT 11 7 0 8 CYPRESS BARN.
I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN AND MY NEIGHBORS.
12 CHILDREN THAT LIVE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT, UH, PERIMETER.
UH, THAT WAS PUT FORWARD IN THE PROPOSAL.
I KNOW IT'S INCONVENIENT, BUT BENZENE IS A KNOWN CARCINOGEN, AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED A 2017 META-ANALYSIS.
META-ANALYSIS IS LOOKING AT LOTS OF STUDIES AND AGGREGATING THEM.
IT CONCLUDED, UM, CONVINCINGLY THAT, UH, THEY, THERE ARE INCREASED RISK OF CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA AMONG THOSE LIVING NEAR SPECIFICALLY GAS STATIONS.
NATIONAL SETBACK STANDARDS OF 300 FEET HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS A SETBACK DISTANCE.
IT'S BEEN, UH, ADOPTED BY MANY.
AND THOSE 300, THAT 300 FOOT SETBACK WAS BASED ON ESTIMATES THAT OUR VAPOR RECOVERY SYSTEMS WOULD WORK AS ADVERTISED.
A 2019 STUDY OF AMERICAN GAS STATIONS FOUND THAT BENZENE LEVELS IN ACTUALITY ARE WELL OVER 10 TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT WAS EXPECTED.
A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE VAPOR.
EVERY A THOUSAND GALLONS THAT YOU PUMP AT THAT GAS STATION, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE AT LEAST HALF A POUND TO VAPOR.
INSTEAD OF EIGHT TO 10 PARTS PER BILLION AT GAS STATIONS, WE'RE RECORDING 110 TO 400 PARTS PER BILLION.
NOW, A BRIEF, UH, PERIOD BEING EXPOSED TO EIGHT TO 10 IS OKAY.
AND AS THE DEVELOPER, UM, MENTIONED, YEAH, YOU CAN GET GASOLINE ON YOUR HAND AND FOR THAT INSTANT, YOU MAY BE RIGHT AROUND EIGHT TO 10 BILLION PARTS PER, UH, EIGHT TO 10 PARTS PER BILLION.
THING IS YOU WASH YOUR HANDS, YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THAT EXPOSURE.
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS DEEMED THAT ANY INDOOR BENZENE IS UNSAFE AND YET BENZENE AT TWO, UM, BILLION PARTS PER UH, PARTS PER BILLION INSIDE HOMES WERE FOUND CONSISTENTLY.
THIS IS THE MEAN, THIS IS THE AVERAGE AT 328 FEET FROM GAS STATIONS.
FURTHERMORE, EMISSION LEVELS FROM THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS, UM, FROM THEIR VENDING SYSTEMS. AND YOU NEED THOSE TO OPERATE UNDERGROUND TANKS.
UM, IT WAS FOUND AT THE LEVELS OF BENZENE WERE SUFFICIENTLY HIGH TO CONSTITUTE SERIOUS HEALTH CONCERNS AT A, AT
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524 FEET.IT'S NO WONDER THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES NOW RECOMMEND PLACING SCHOOLS, UM, NO CLOSER THAN A THOUSAND FEET OF EXISTING GAS STATIONS.
JUST SO HAPPENS WE HAVE 900 KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET UNDER 10 YEARS OLD, WHO ARE WELL WITHIN THAT THOUSAND FEET.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPOSED TO THIS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
YOU CAN'T WASH YOUR HANDS OF THAT.
UH, ALSO NOT SURPRISINGLY, UH, COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, I'LL THROW OUT SOME EXAMPLES.
CLARKSON, GEORGIA 500 FEET SETBACK NOW MANDATORY, PLEASANT GROVE, ALABAMA, 500 FEET INDIAN ROCKS BEACH, FLORIDA, A THOUSAND FEET SETBACK FROM SCHOOLS, RECREATIONAL AREAS, ANYWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GATHERED.
AT OUR LAST MEETING, MY MY DAUGHTER HAD THE GUMPTION, IF YOU REMEMBER MR. COMMISSIONER, TO COME UP AND VOICE HER CONCERNS.
AND WHAT WE GOT BACK WAS, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, IF YOUR PARENTS WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SAFETY, THEY WOULDN'T LIVE NEAR AN AIR FORCE BASE.
I SERVED MOST OF MY LIFE IN THE AIR FORCE.
I AM INTIMATELY, UH, FAMILIAR WITH OUR RIGID AVIATION SAFETY AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS PROTOCOLS.
AND I TRUST MY BROTHER AND SISTER AIRMEN TO KEEP US ALL SAFE HERE IN SHIRTS ON OCCASION, YES, YOU'RE GONNA SMELL SOME JP EIGHT WHEN YOU'RE NEAR THE BASE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN THE FLIGHT LINE WHEN OUR T 30 EIGHTS ARE FLYING AND TRAINING.
BUT WHEN I SCOPE THIS DOWN TO A VERY SMALL LEVEL, IF I EVEN LOOK AT IT ONE MILE BY ONE MILE AND LOW LEVEL FLYING, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DISPERSAL AREA OF 140 BILLION CUBIC FEET.
THIS GAS STATION'S GONNA BE LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM OUR HOMES, FROM OUR KIDS.
I I'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU AN EXTRA MINUTE, SO IF YOU PLEASE I'LL WRAP IT UP.
SIMILARLY, WHEN WE GAS UP OUR VEHICLES, WE'RE EXPOSED TO SOME BENZENE, BUT WE GET IN OUR CARS AND DRIVE AWAY COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS GONNA BE WITH US 24 7 AND OUR KIDS ARE AT RISK.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 9 PECAN BRANCH.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT HOW MANY MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE FOR WILLOW GROVE.
THIS IS A FAR CRY FROM THE LAST TIME, SIR.
I'M A RETIRED PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT WHO LIVES IN WILLOW GROVE AS ESTATE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED GAS STATION WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE DEVELOPMENT AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE PREVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY ADDRESSED THIS AND WE HAD FOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE ASKING THAT THIS SUPPORT BE CONTINUED.
THE REASON I'M GONNA, THE, THE REASONS I'M GONNA DISCUSS ARE THE WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE HAZARDS TO OUR HEALTH, WHICH HAVE BEEN COVERED.
I SAW FROM THE AGENDA THAT YOU NOTED THAT THERE WERE ONLY 20 APPROACH BASED ON MY WALK AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND THE PETITION THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
UM, THIS IS NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE.
THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU KNOW, IS DIVIDED INTO WILLOW GROVE AND WILLOW GROVE ESTATES.
I FOCUSED ON THE ESTATE SIDE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS ONLY A WEEK AGO.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT IS CLOSEST TO THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
THERE ARE 78 HOMES THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE WILLOW GROVE ESTATE.
ACCORDING TO THE BCAD, I WAS ABLE TO REACH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN, IN 60 OF THOSE HOMES.
I HAVE A PETITION WITH SIGNATURES OF 90 PLUS FOLKS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE PLACEMENT OF A GAS STATION.
TO BE FAIR, THERE WERE TWO HOMES THAT WERE AMBIVALENT.
ONE THAT WAS FOR IT, AND ONE THAT WAS A RENTAL HOME AND NOT, DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING THE PETITION.
SO THE MATH READS IS 75% OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THIS PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY CLOSEST TO THE HAZARD, DO NOT WANT IT.
THE REAL REASON THIS IS BEFORE THE PNZ THOUGH IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE HAZARDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
THE FIRST POINT UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT IS THE CITY'S DESIRE TO PROMOTE SAFE, ORDERLY, DEVELOP ECONOMIC EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT.
THE RISK OF UNDERGROUND TANKS LEAKING IS REAL.
THE RISK TO THE HEALTH OF THE KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL JUST 328 FEET AWAY IS REAL.
THE RISK OF INCREASED HEALTH HAZARDS, ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE GAS STATION IS REAL.
MANY OF US ARE RETIRED MILITARY MEMBERS WHO HAVE HAD MULTIPLE EXPOSURES AND MANY OF US HAVE HAD CANCERS.
ONCE THE TANKS GO IN THE GROUND, WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE STUCK WITH THE HAZARD.
THERE'S A 2015 STUDY TITLED HYDROCARBON RELEASE DURING FUEL STORAGE AND TRANSFER GAS STATIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH EFFECTS.
I WANNA SHARE JUST A FEW QUOTES.
AS IT DISCUSSED, THE REAL RISK OCCUPATIONAL STUDIES HAVE LINKED BENZENE EXPOSURE TO NUMEROUS BLOOD CANCERS, INCLUDING ACUTE MYELOID LEUKEMIA AND ACUTE NON LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA.
AT GAS STATIONS, FUEL CAN BE RELEASED IN BOTH LIQUID AND VAPOR FACES DURING DELIVERY, STORAGE AND DISPENSING.
REPEATED SPILLS COULD BE OF GREATER CONCERN FOR GROUNDWATER
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CONTAMINATION.THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF NEARBY RESIDENTS OF GAS STATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN STUDIED.
HOWEVER, IT IS KNOWN THAT CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER CAN AFFECT LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
AND IF GROUNDWATER IS USED AS AS DRINKING WATER AS IT WAS IN CAMP LAGOON, AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
THE HEALTH RISKS OF LIVING NEAR GAS STATIONS ARE NOT WELL UNDERSTOOD, PARTICULARLY AFFECTED OUR RESIDENTS NEARBY GAS STATIONS WHO SPEND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF TIME AT HOME COMPARED TO THOSE WHO LEAVE BECAUSE OF WORK DUE TO THE LONGER PERIODS OF EXPOSURE OF PARTICULAR CONCERN.
OR CHILDREN WHO, FOR EXAMPLE, LIVE NEARBY, PLAIN, NEARBY, OR ATTEND NEARBY SCHOOLS BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE MUCH MORE VULNERABLE TO HYDROCARBON EXPOSURE.
I KNOW THE LAST TIME MAYOR GUTIERREZ MADE A POINT OF MENTIONING THE SAME THING WAS DONE IN SAMUEL CLEMENTS AND THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
WE ARE SAYING SOMETHING WE DO NOT WANT THE GAS STATION IN FRONT OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR.
WE KNOW WE JUST DON'T WANT THE GAS STATION.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 2 2 COTTON SPINDLE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU ALL TO SAY THAT THERE'S THAT 200 FOOT ZONE THAT GOES AROUND THAT.
THERE'S I, MY, MY COUNT 11 HOUSES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IF JUST 25% OF THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE HOUSE OBJECTS TO IT, THE COUNCIL KICKS IN THE SUPER MAJORITY FOR THE VOTE, WHICH MEANS ONLY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BASED ON THE VOTE THE LAST TIME.
AND BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH WHAT EVERYBODY'S PRESENT PRESENTED BEHIND ME, I'D RECOMMEND YOU SAVE THE COUNCIL SOME TIME.
I HAVE BEEN A EQUIVALENT TO A MAYOR BEFORE FOR A 75,000 AREA SPACE, AND I WISHED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS WOULD'VE CAME FORWARD WITH THE TOLD PACKAGE AND, AND STOPPED STUFF FROM COMING UP TO HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BEFORE IT EVER GOT TO US SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN WE ALREADY KNEW THAT IT WAS MOST LIKELY GONNA GO DOWN IN THE BOAT THERE ANYWAYS, SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE AGAIN, ONCE, ONCE I SAY NO MORE, YOU, YOU'VE LOST THE CHANCE TO COMMENT.
COME ON UP BECAUSE TH TH THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
AND, AND LET ME THROW IN HERE REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU START, SIR.
THAT, UH, THIS MEETING IS BEING, UH, LIVE STREAMED AND RECORDED FOR YOUTUBE.
THE CITY HAS A YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND, UH, MY EXPERIENCE IS IF MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS MEETING, SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE HEARD NOT ONLY HERE, BUT THEN AGAIN YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM DIRECTLY.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR WILLOW GROVE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A FEW REQUESTS FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY IN FRONT.
AND I'VE DENIED THEM ALL BECAUSE OF ACCESS TO OUR AREA COMING INTO WILLOW GROVE.
THEY'VE ASKED, AND THEY'VE ALSO ASKED THAT, UH, THERE'S A 12 FOOT BARRIER OR, UH, DIVISION BETWEEN WHERE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP AND OUR FENCE LINE.
AND I'VE SAID, NO, WE'VE GOT WHAT OUR LAWYERS, WE'VE SAID NO.
UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT TXDOT WON'T ALLOW A, UH, ACCESS OFF OF FM 1518 AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I IMMEDIATELY SAID NO AT THAT POINT TO ALL THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF YOU PUT A GAS STATION THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN SHAFER ROAD OR COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO, UH, ACCESS IT.
AND I'M PLAN, I PLAN TO GET WITH OUR LAWYERS AND TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RED DEEDED.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE REDONE, SO I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
AND I DON'T THINK THE HOMEOWNERS WANT IT, JUST AS YOU SEE WHENEVER EVERYONE HERE.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT'S THE NEED? I DUNNO IF ANYBODY ADDRESSED THAT ALREADY TONIGHT, BUT WHAT'S THE NEED FOR A GAS STATION THERE? BECAUSE THEY PUT IN A QT DOWN AT I 10, IT'S TWO MILES AWAY.
THERE'S ANOTHER GAS STATION RIGHT THERE ON FM 78.
SO IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE DOLLAR GENERAL, IT BECAME A NEED.
THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THERE, BUT THE NEED FOR A GAS STATION ISN'T THERE AT
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ALL.IF YOU'RE GONNA DEVELOP, WE UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA COME, PUT SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED THERE, BUT NOT A, NOT A GAS STATION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JASON BISHOP, AND I'M AT, UH, 1 0 4 3 7, UH, SHADOWY.
CAN YOU MAYBE PULL THAT MIC UP? JUST BEND THAT THING UP.
IT'S NOT MADE FOR TALL PEOPLE.
WELL, I THINK THE TWO DEBATE HERE, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG ISSUE.
A GENTLEMAN MENTIONED PUTTING IN STARBUCKS.
I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN A DUNKING, BUT DEFINITELY WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS ANOTHER GAS STATION.
UH, UM, I HAVE A PHD FROM UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA.
I'VE SWITCHED, UH, CAREERS NOW I'M WORKING IN, UH, ECONOMICS AND FINANCE.
AND SO I MORE OR LESS HAVE A, UM, CORPORATE, UH, FINANCE, UH, AND ECONOMIC OUTLOOK.
UH, BUT THE LAST GENTLEMAN, UH, BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE IS THAT THE VALERO STATION THAT'S ON 78 IS TWO MILES FROM THE INTENDED OR TALKED ABOUT GAS STATION.
AND THEN, UH, THE ONE DOWN THE STREET AT, UM, THE SHELL STATION, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS AT I 10.
AND THIS GAS STATION BEING IN BETWEEN, IT IS NOT GONNA GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE OR TRANSACTIONS THAT'S ALREADY BEING GENERATED, UH, BY THESE OTHER TWO.
SO THERE'S NOT AN ECONOMIC NEED OR BENEFIT OF THIS.
SO YOU HAVE DECREASED HOUSE VALUES, AND I CAN PROVIDE, UH, SEVERAL, UH, STUDIES THAT INDICATE THAT, UH, FBI, UH, STATISTICS, UH, IN 2022 INDICATED THAT 4.7% OF ALL VIOLENT CRIME, UH, TAKES PLACE AT A GAS STATION.
SO YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY JUST INCREASING CRIME.
UH, I DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD POINT.
THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GONNA MENTION, UM, GOT LOST.
UM, AND UH, ALSO ANOTHER THING ON THE ECONOMIC FRONT IS THAT YOU'RE TAKING, UM, PROFIT AWAY, UH, FROM, UH, THE OTHER TWO GAS STATIONS BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IN ANY NEW PEOPLE, UH, INTO THIS.
SO, UH, I THINK IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSING HARM TO THE RESIDENTS, YOU'RE ALSO TAKING BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE ALREADY ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO, UH, BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TO TRY TO FORTIFY IT AND NOT TO DECREASE IT.
BUT I HAVE TO DRIVE AT LEAST 10 MINUTES TO GET TO A DUNKING.
AND I KNOW MY FELLOW, UH, NEIGHBORS DO AS WELL.
SO, UH, I PROPOSE THAT WE CHANGE THE NARRATIVE FROM A GAS STATION, UH, TO A DUNKING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE WE CAN GET INTO A START.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN BRING A, A INDEPENDENT, UH, COFFEE PERSON.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE, I CAN'T SEE A TRUE NEED OR HELP OR ANY BENEFIT AT ALL, AT ANY ANGLE OTHER THAN, UM, A THIRD COMPETITOR COMING IN AND WANTING TO GENERATE PROFIT FOR THEIR OWN COMPANY.
AND I, I, UH, WHILE I'M ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS, I'M NOT FOR JUST GIVING, UH, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS TO MAKE BUSINESS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT'S NOT NEEDED AND IT DOESN'T SERVE A PURPOSE.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, THAT'S WHY I KEEP ASKING.
UH, JUST MR. CHRISTENSEN MENTIONED THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN A FAST FOOD, AND THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT, JUST SEE SOME DATA THAT CAME OUT TODAY.
THE AVERAGE CHICK-FIL-A REVENUES, THIS IS THE AVERAGE STORE, $9 MILLION A YEAR, MCDONALD'S FOUR AND A HALF MILLION.
HE MENTIONED DUNCAN OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPTIONS THERE THAT MIGHT BE MEET, UH, THESE, UH, THE RESIDENT'S GOAL AS WELL
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AS, UH, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL SUITORS FOR THE, FOR THAT PROPERTY.NO, UH, I JUST WANNA PILE ON THE, ON THE PILE HERE.
UH, I HAVE, UH, SOME COWORKERS.
I WORK ON BASE TWO AT RANDOLPH, UH, 20 YEAR AIR FORCE VETERAN, RETIRED.
UH, I ALSO HAVE, UH, RETIRED VETERANS THAT, UH, LIVE IN CROSS FINDS, WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
UH, TOLD THEM ABOUT THIS GAS STATION IN, UH, JUST TO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE IS SAYING IS THEY'VE SAID THEY WOULDN'T RATHER HAVE A GAS STATION HERE EITHER.
THEY'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT.
UH, WE'D RATHER HAVE SOME RESTAURANTS OR SOME PLACES TO EAT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY'S RENTING THAN A GAS STATION.
AND BESIDES, I, I FELT MY GAS ON BASE OR HEB OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO, BUT THANKS, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
ANYONE ELSE GOING ONCE, TWICE.
IT IS 7:06 PM AND THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION IS CLOSED.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, LET ME JUST, UM, I, I'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS, BUT LET, LET ME JUST HIT A COUPLE OF GENERAL THINGS.
UM, NUMBER ONE, UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS A MAYOR SOMEWHERE, OKAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE LAW IS STRUCTURED, WE DON'T HAVE APPROVAL.
THE ONLY AUTHORITY WE'RE GIVEN IS TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE, THE WAY THE LAW IS STRUCTURED, OR AT LEAST THE WAY THE CITY CHARTER, I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UH, APPROVE OR OUTRIGHT DENY, UH, SUV'S, UM, ZONING REQUESTS AND, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
THEY ALL HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO WHAT WE DO, UH, IS WE TAKE YOUR INPUT AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT HERE IN A BIT, AND WE TRY TO MAKE, UH, AN INFORMED RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
NOW, THE PRIOR MEETING WHERE THIS WAS CONSIDERED LAST YEAR, YES, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION.
IT WAS FOUR TO TWO, FOUR IN FAVOR, TWO AGAINST, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THESE OTHER THINGS I CAN SAY UNTIL AFTER YOU FOLKS HAVE HAD YOUR SAY.
WHO, WHO? ANYBODY WANNA START? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'LL START.
UM, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
UM, I KNOW YOU ALL TOOK TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY TO COME OVER HERE AND TELL US.
AND THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS OUR CIVIC DUTY AND THIS IS YOUR CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS WHILE YOU GUYS WERE TALKING.
YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET IS WONDERFUL.
YOU CAN LOOK UP THINGS VERY QUICKLY.
AND SO STARTED GETTING REALLY SMART ON BENZENE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BENZENE IN THEM, AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.
AND IF YOU HAVE A GAS STOVE, YOU GET BENZENE FROM THAT.
IF YOU SMOKE CIGARETTES, YOU GET BENZENE FROM THAT.
GLUES AND PAINTS, JP EIGHT FROM RANDOLPH.
UM, AND YOU HAVE I TEN THREE POINT FIVE MILES AWAY.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE, UM, THE EXPANSION OF 1518 THAT'S GONNA POUR BENZENE INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WITHIN CERT CITY LIMITS, WE HAVE AN EXXON, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UM, CERTS, UM, HIGH SCHOOL, CLEMENTS HIGH SCHOOL.
WE HAVE A VALERO THAT THEY, UH, ACTUALLY USED AN EXAMPLE OF THE, THE, A VERY SIMILAR SETUP, UM, ON CERTS PARKWAY AS WELL.
UM, THE EXPANSION PROJECT ON 1518 IS BASICALLY GONNA TURN WHAT YOU CALL 1518 NOW INTO THREE OH OH NINE.
UH, AND IF YOU'VE DRIVEN UP 3 0 0 9, THERE ARE BUSINESSES, GAS STATIONS, ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I ALSO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DUNKING.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.
UM, AND, AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THING.
UH, WE ARE JUST APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE, ALL WE DO IS RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THEY GIVE THE THUMBS UP, THEY GIVE THE THUMBS DOWN.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD WANT IT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE COLLECTIVELY ELECT TO SIT AND REPRESENT US.
WE DO THIS AS A VOLUNTEER THING.
AND SO I, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT WE'RE
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JUST CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY JUST LIKE YOU, AND WE WANT THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.ANYBODY ELSE? WHO'S NEXT? PATRICK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, I GUESS YOU, UM, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY STANDARDS ON HOW FAR AWAY FROM A SCHOOL OR A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT A GAS STATION CAN BE? NO.
SO, UM, IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, THEY TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC CHARGERS BEING, UH, A PART OF IT.
IS THAT LUMPED INTO THE, UM, GAS STATION PORTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD STILL DO? SO THE, THE, I KNOW THE CONVENIENCE STORE PORTION AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING ELSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COULD GO AS IS TODAY.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE GAS STATIONS, CORRECT? THE ELECTRIC CHARGER PORTION ALSO LUMPED INTO THIS, THE ELECTRIC CHARGER IS NOT, DOES NOT REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, HERE COMES, YOU READY?
SO, UM, REAL QUICK FOR, FOR YOUR BENEFIT HERE, HERE'S THE PROCESS.
THE, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS, AND THERE'S AN ENTIRE LIST OF, UM, BUSINESS TYPES AND USES THAT ARE WHAT WE CALL BY RIGHT? IN GENERAL BUSINESS.
AND IT'S, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS PUMPS.
IT'S, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A GAS STATION WITHOUT A CONVENIENCE STORE.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY BUILDS THOSE ANYMORE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE, UH, FAST FOOD, UH, RETAIL, UH, I MEAN, THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE'S A VERY EXTENSIVE LIST.
NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, UH, THE, THE PURPOSE OF AN SUPA SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, IS TO ALLOW US TO CONSIDER, SO, UH, SAM TYPICALLY THE, THE USE CHART, UH, WE WOULD SEE, UH, GENERAL BUSINESS AND THEN WHAT'S NEXT? UM, GENERAL BUSINESS TWO, AND THEN MANUFACTURING LIGHT, RIGHT? SO, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS BY WRIGHT IN WHAT IS IT ALLOWED ANYWHERE? UH, I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT IN, UH, MANUFACTURING LIGHT.
OKAY? SO, UM, AND, AND, AND THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED THAT WAY IS, IS BECAUSE THE CITY RECOGNIZES THERE ARE SOME FUNCTIONS, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN, IN, IN, IN THAT PARTICULAR ZONING.
AND SO IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
UM, RATHER THAN IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME IN TOMORROW AND BUILD THE DUNKING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK ANYBODY.
THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE, THEY JUST GO OVER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND, AND, WELL, THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING WITH A SITE PLAN.
THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
UH, BUT BASICALLY THEY DON'T NEED THE CITY'S APPROVAL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER IF YOU WERE HERE WHEN THEY WANTED TO BUILD THE WALMART IN CILO AND, UH, THE RESIDENT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, JUST, I MEAN, THEY WERE UP IN ARMS, UM, AND THEY RECALLED JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL.
BUT THE TRUTH OF THAT WHOLE MATTER IS THAT PROPERTY WAS ALREADY ZONED.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT COUNCIL COULD DO TO STOP THAT WALMART.
UH, AND I THINK YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THAT SOMETHING IS GONNA BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT, OKAY? UM, YOU COULD GET, UH, WHO'S DO, THERE'S DOLLAR GENERAL FAMILY DOLLAR IS THEIR COMPETITION.
THEY COULD BUILD THERE TOMORROW.
IT'S THE, THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE SAYING, UM, THE, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO BALANCE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHT TO USE HIS PROPERTY AND YOUR RIGHTS AS PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE LINE WE WALK.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, IF, IF YOU FOLKS HAVE HEARD ME BEFORE, UH, I'M REALLY GOOD ABOUT GIVING HISTORY LESSONS.
I'M, I, I MOVED TO SHIRTS IN, IN, IN THE SUMMER OF 1989.
THERE WAS NOTHING ON 1518, AND I MEAN, NOTHING, OKAY? OTHER THAN THE, THE WRECKING
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YARD THAT'S OUT THERE.AND I THINK THAT CONCRETE PLANT WAS THERE.
UM, AND THEN YOU GOT OUT THE 10.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WHAT HAPPENS IS FOLKS LIKE YOU, UH, WANT TO LIVE OUT THERE.
SO THE DEVELOPERS BUILD HOMES.
AND WHAT DOES THAT DO? IT BRINGS TRAFFIC.
UM, AND TXDOT, IF YOU, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE LIVED IN TEXAS LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 20 YEARS BEHIND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, MR. HOS POINTED IT OUT IN HIS PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE A GAS STATIONS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALL OVER SHIRTS.
UH, I APPRECIATED, UH, ALL THE FACTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOLKS SEEM TO HAVE ZEROED IN ON, ON THE BENZENE HAZARD.
AND I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU, I'M A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER.
I KNOW WHAT HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ARE, UH, BUT I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT THE REALITY OF THE WORLD IS THE CITY OF SHEZ DOESN'T REGULATE.
WE DON'T HAVE, I NEVER KNEW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID A SCHOOL SHOULD BE A THOUSAND FEET FROM A GAS STATION.
OKAY? UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, SEE WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE OUT THERE THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO START CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.
BUT, BUT WE'VE NEVER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, FUEL STATIONS ARE REGULATED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
UM, AND AS THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR THIS CITY, I OVERSAW THE BUILDING AND THE EMPLACEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE FUEL STATION AND MORE THAN ONE FUEL TANK.
UM, AND AT SOME POINT, UM, I USED TO HAVE TO GO AND, AND BEFORE THEY PUT THE TANK IN THE GROUND, THEY HAVE TO DO A PRESSURE TEST.
AND IT USED TO BE I WOULD GO WITNESS THOSE.
WELL, TCEQ BASICALLY TOOK THAT AUTHORITY AWAY FROM ME.
I DIDN'T, I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T, WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BOTHER ANYBODY ANYMORE.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS ALL MODERN GAS STATIONS, THAT'S A DOUBLE WALL TANK WITH, UH, AND, AND THAT'S DESIGNED TO START THE LEAK ENTRAPMENT PROCESS.
AND THEY'RE ALL PLACED IN SOME KIND OF A CONTAINMENT SYSTEM.
AND THEN THAT ENTIRE THING BEFORE IT'S BURIED, THERE'S A LEAK DETECTION SYSTEM INSTALLED.
UM, DO THEY REALLY WORK? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR FAITH IN SOMEBODY.
UM, NOW AS THE FIRE MARSHAL, I WOULD INSPECT THOSE GAS STATIONS ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR AND FOR, FOR VARIOUS THINGS.
BUT, UM, AND, AND SOME OF YOU TALKED ABOUT THE VAPOR RECOVERY BOOTS, AND IN MY MIND, WHAT I'M SEEING IS WHEN YOU GO TO HOUSTON, OR WHERE I GREW UP IN CALIFORNIA, YOU GOT THOSE RUBBER THINGS AROUND THE NOZZLE.
AND SO WHEN YOU STICK THAT IN THERE, THEY'RE RECOVERING.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE HERE, AT LEAST NOT YET.
YOU WON'T FIND THEM ANYWHERE IN BEAR COUNTY, GUADALUPE COME OUT, WE DON'T HAVE 'EM.
SO YOU STICK THAT NOZZLE IN THERE AND ALL THAT STUFF'S JUST GOING OUT IN AIR.
UM, IT, IT, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I, I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA, WELL, THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS I DON'T WANNA POO POO YOUR COMMENTS, OKAY? ALL THAT SCIENTIFIC IS GREAT INFORMATION, OKAY? BUT I'M NOT A SIGN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST A, I'M JUST AN ORDINARY.
NOW, I DO HAVE A BIOLOGY DEGREE, BUT THAT SUCKER IS 60 YEARS OLD, SO WHO KNOWS? UM, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE GAS STATIONS ALL OVER THIS, NOT JUST OUR AREA, BUT ALL THROUGH SAN ANTONIO, BEAR COUNTY, THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGH TEXAS.
AND I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT, UH, CANCER BREAKOUTS AND, AND NEXT TO GAS STATIONS.
AND, AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT.
OKAY? UH, AND TO ANSWER ONE PERSON'S QUESTION, YES, I LOST MY MOTHER, MY STEPMOTHER, I'M SORRY, MY MOTHER, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, AND MY FATHER-IN-LAW TO CANCER, OKAY? AND I'M A CANCER SURVIVOR, SO YES, I UNDERSTAND.
UH, I WAS FORTUNATE IN MY 20 YEAR AIR FORCE CAREER, OTHER THAN BEING ON BASE, I, MY JOB DIDN'T EXPOSE ME TO A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT'S FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE NOW.
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TALKED ABOUT NEED, DO YOU REALLY NEED, DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW.I KIND OF, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT, BUT I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID SOME KIND OF MARKET ANALYSIS BEFORE HE JUST JUMPS IN THERE WITH BOTH FEET AND INVESTS HUNDREDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BUILDING A SERVICE STATION.
HE'S DONE SOME KIND OF MARKET, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THESE THINGS, TO ME, IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT YOU DRIVE AROUND, THEY'RE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE.
WE, WE, WE HAVE, THEY'RE ALMOST FINISHED NOW.
WE HAVE OUR THIRD QT UP ON 35 AT, UH, UH, CIVIL VALLEY DRIVE.
IF YOU GO OUT 78 AT 1103, QT IS BUILDING A GAS STATION THERE.
UH, IF YOU DRIVE 46 BETWEEN SEIN, UH, AND AND I 35, THESE GAS STATIONS ARE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE.
AND YET I'M THINKING ABOUT, UH, THE PRICE OF FUEL, UM, THE INITIATIVE TO GO TO ALT.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST, TO ME, IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT ALL THESE GAS STATIONS ARE POPPING UP, BUT THEY ARE, AND AGAIN, I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WHOEVER'S BUILDING THEM HAS DONE, HAS DONE SOME KIND OF RESEARCH TO, TO DECIDE THAT IT'S GONNA BE WORTH THEIR WHILE.
UM, AND SAM, HERE'S, HERE'S, I, I'LL JUST CUT TO THE CHASE HERE.
UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SAFE FOR YOU FOLKS TO HAVE A GAS STATION RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR SUBDIVISION, I DON'T KNOW.
I, UM, BUT THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, UM, IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE, WE, WE CHANGED THE RULES A WHILE BACK.
AND, AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SHOW US A SITE PLAN ANYMORE.
IT USED TO BE THEY HAD TO SHOW US A SITE PLAN SO WE COULD REALLY SEE WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS WERE GONNA BE.
AND, UH, MR. OZ WILL TELL YOU, THE OTHER STAFF FOLKS WILL TELL YOU, I'M NO BIG FAN OF TDOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RUNNING THAT OUTFIT.
IT'S THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND YET EVERY LITTLE SUBDIVISION SEEMS TO HAVE THEIR OWN POLICIES.
YOU GO OUT HERE AND IT'S, IT'S JUST ABOUT JUST TAKING IT OFF THE, THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU HAD IN OUR PACKET.
IT'S 400 FEET BETWEEN SCHAEFFER ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE OF YOUR SUBDIVISION FRONTAGE ON 1518.
AND THAT USED TO BE THE OLD TXDOT GUIDELINE.
THEY SAID, WELL, WE DON'T REQUIRE, UH, WELL, THAT'S PRIMARILY EXITS OFF THE HIGHWAY AND STUFF, BUT, SO YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU GOT 400 FOOT FREE, UH, FRONTAGE AND TDOT'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A DRIVEWAY ACCESS, BUT YOU GO UP HERE ON 3 0 9 AND 150 FEET FROM RIPS CHRYSLER AT THE STOPLIGHT, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY INTO QT.
WELL, WHO APPROVED THAT ONE? TXDOT.
BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S THE NEW BRAUNFELS PEOPLE.
AND OUT HERE WE'RE TALKING TO THE SAN ANTONIO PEOPLE.
AND SO, MY PROBLEM, SAM, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE'VE RESTRUCTURED THE PROCESS, WHAT, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A HYPOTHETICAL.
SO HERE'S WHAT, HERE'S WHAT'LL HAPPEN.
LET'S, LET'S, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE SAY.
LET'S SAY CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WELL, THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY PLOTTED.
SO THEN WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL COME INTO, THEY HAVE TO DO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE PLANNING PEOPLE WITH A SITE PLAN.
UM, AND, AND, AND TYPICALLY, UH, HISTORY SAYS, IF TXDOT SAYS NO TO A DRIVEWAY, THEY DON'T GET A DRIVEWAY.
AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN, UM, ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE ACCESS COMES OFF WITH SCHAEFER ROAD IS ONE THING, BUT TO HAVE ACCESS INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THIS THING OFF AN ENTRY TO A SUBDIVISION, I OBJECT TO, YOU KNOW? AND SO HOW DO I MAKE A RATIONAL DECISIONS TONIGHT? NOT KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT TO, BECAUSE IF I, I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'LL BE REAL UPFRONT WITH YOU.
I THINK IF TEXDOT GIVES 'EM ACCESS TO 1518, I'D LEAN TOWARDS APPROVAL, BUT I DON'T, I I DON'T KNOW THAT TONIGHT.
AND THAT'LL TURN OUT TO BE A STAFF DECISION, OKAY? UM, BECAUSE IN THE, IN MY MIND, I, I TALK ABOUT ALL THESE, WE, WE HAVE A SEVERAL GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORES OF GAS PUMPS THAT ARE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, BUT NONE OF THEM TAKE THEIR ACCESS OFF THAT ENTRY AND EXIT FROM THE SUBDIVISION.
OKAY? YOU GO, GO OVER HERE ON THIS CORNER, HE HAS ACCESS OFF OF LIVE OAK, AND HE HAS ACCESS OFF OF, UH, SHIRTZ PARKWAY.
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UM, WHERE ELSE KINDA YOU GO, YOU GO DOWN HERE TO, ON THE CORNER OF UH, UH, OH, IT'S NOT REALLY ELBOW ANYMORE.'CAUSE YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET AND IT BECOMES A DIFFERENT STREET.
AND HE HAS, HE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, HE'S RIGHT UP THERE IN THE CORNER WITH HOUSES BEHIND HIM, BUT HIS ACCESS IS FROM SHEZ PARKWAY AND ARROW, NOT FROM THE, THE STREET THAT LEADS INTO YOUR SUBDIVISION.
AND THAT'S PART OF MY PROBLEM, SAM, IS, IS WE'VE KICKED THESE KINDS OF THINGS DOWN THE ROAD TO WHERE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA TURN OUT.
I TALKED ABOUT TCEQ AND THE, THE DELAYED.
UM, UM, AND AGAIN, THE LAST THING I WROTE HERE IN CAPITAL LETTERS UNDERLYING TWICE WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS IS ACCESS.
SO, AND AGAIN, PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE, THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR EARLIER.
I'M NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE YOUR HEALTH CONCERNS.
THE PROBLEM I HAD IS I JUST DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, MY DADDY USED TO TELL ME THAT THERE WERE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY, SO I'VE HEARD YOUR SIDE.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE I'VE MINIMIZED THOSE CONCERNS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
OKAY? WHO ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS, UH, SITTING AND LISTENING, UH, TO MR. OUTLAW TALK ABOUT ACCESS TO THE GAS STATIONS, I, UH, JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR US, THAT, THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT LOVE THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE REASONS THAT WE DO, UH, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY WE WANT TO HAVE, RIGHT? UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, I DON'T LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS TO MAKE A DECISION OR BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A GAS STATION IS GONNA BE PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE ENTRY TO MY COMMUNITY, UH, WHERE MY KIDS ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CROSSING STREETS TO GET TO SCHOOL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHT TO PUT WHATEVER PROPERTY THEY WANT THERE.
UH, BUT I THINK FOR THE CITIZENS OF SHIRTS AND THOSE THAT LIVE IN WILLOW GROVE AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE AND TO LET THAT VOICE BE HEARD, RIGHT? UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR WHOMEVER.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE.
YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT DOES 1518 ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, I HEAR, YOU KNOW, THEY TALK ABOUT HAVING SOME PLACES TO EAT.
I KNOW IF I LIVED OFF 1518, I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOMEWHERE I COULD GO AND EAT AS WELL, BUY GROCERIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, THE GAS STATION IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ME.
UH, YOU KNOW, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS USING THE SAME STREET THAT LEADS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY OR TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY WE WANT TO HAVE, WHAT SERVICES THAT WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND LET OUR VOICE BE HEARD, YOU KNOW, DURING THE QUIET TIME WHEN NO ONE'S PLANNING TO DEVELOP OUTSIDE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE TALKING THEN ABOUT WHAT WE WANT OUR COMMUNITIES TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN ALL ACROSS THIS STATE, ALL ACROSS THIS NATION, AND I'VE SEEN MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS WERE DONE DELIBERATELY AND ON PURPOSE TO SUPPORT THE CITIZENS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE THE GOODS AND SERVICES THAT THEY NEEDED AND NEEDED ACCESS TO.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT PLOPPING IN A GAS STATION THERE SUPPORTS THAT
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PERSPECTIVE.SO, UH, BUT I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY DO THAT.
LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD, UM, AND LET'S DO WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR SAFETY AND WELFARE OF US, OUR CHILDREN, RIGHT? IT CAN'T JUST BE IMPORTANT WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE THAT YOU DON'T WANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE REST OF THE YEAR, AS WE GET ENGAGED IN OUR, YOU KNOW, BUSY LIVES, WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEN WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? AND WITH THE ELECTION SEASON COMING UP, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOW'S THE TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS MATTER, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO, UH, I WOULD, UH, TO ADVISE TO GET ENGAGED AND BE PART OF WHAT ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY GOES THERE.
IF YOU EVER THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO THERE YOU DON'T WANT.
I'M A, I'M GONNA ECHO A COUPLE POINTS REAL QUICK AND BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP IS THAT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS MADE WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS OPPOSED TO ONE SPECIFIC KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ZONING THIS FROM PRE-DEVELOPMENT TO GENERAL BUSINESS.
WE'RE ALLOWING ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT PEOPLE ARE A MAJORITY AGAINST.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT EVEN SAID THEY'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEVELOP SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID.
NOT EVERYONE HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY OPEN TO, BUT THE IDEAS THAT ARE BEING THROWN UP HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED, BUT THE APPLICANT IS SET ON WE WANT TO DO A GAS STATION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I, I KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, BUT THIS SPECIFIC THING DOES NOT SEEM TO BE APPROPRIATE.
AND, UM, COMMISSIONER HECTOR, TO, TO, UM, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DO WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND THAT VISION NOW HAS BEEN CHANGED.
AND HONESTLY, IT'S, IT WAS NO SURPRISE TO ME HOW IT TURNED OUT.
IT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANT OUT THERE.
SO, UM, BUT OTHER THAN I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH, WHICH IS MY POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE AS CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO GET INVOLVED AND ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, RIGHT? EVEN WHEN THINGS ARE QUIET, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHAT THEY WANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE ULTIMATELY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE THE DECISION MAKERS.
AND I'M, I'M FINE WITH, YOU KNOW, ELECTING SOMEONE INTO OFFICE, INTO A POSITION OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT I'M STILL DUTY BOUND TO FOLLOW UP, RIGHT? TRUST, BUT VERIFY ANYONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE MILITARY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SO, SO, YEAH.
UH, BUT THAT GETS TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR A REASON, AND, AND IT IS TIMES LIKE THESE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW, RIGHT? AND IF WE DEMAND TO KNOW WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN ENVISION THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THEN WE NEED TO HOLD SOMEONE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
AND IT NEEDS TO MAKE SENSE AND IT NEEDS TO LINE UP WITH OUR OWN, UH, STANDARDS, VALUES OUR VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO LIVE IN, BECAUSE LETTING IT HAPPEN BY HAPPENSTANCE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND IT DOESN'T WORK.
YOU KNOW? AND THE MORE THAT WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, THEN WE'RE GONNA GET WHAT WE GET, RIGHT? AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT, OH, OKAY, NOW I NEED TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LIVE.
YOU KNOW? BUT, UH, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER 20 YEARS MYSELF.
I RAISED MY KIDS HERE, LOVED IT, YOU KNOW, GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN, YOU KNOW? BUT I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE GET ACTIVELY ENGAGED, RIGHT? IN THE, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE, UH, THAT WE LIVE IN AND COME
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BACK HOME TO EVERY SINGLE DAY.BECAUSE THAT MATTERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO AND WORK WHEN YOU COME BACK HOME, YOU KNOW, THAT MATTERS.
SO, UH, SO I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON 15, 18, MAYBE NOT IN ALL OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT ON 1518.
SO IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR OR OFF 1518, UH, I KNOW IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT EVEN WHEN THINGS WERE POTENTIALLY QUIET.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM IS, UM, OUR TASK TONIGHT IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND, AND WE HAVE BASICALLY THREE OPTIONS.
WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, WE CAN RECOMMEND DENIAL, OR WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
NOW, IF I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S PROB THE WAY IT'S PRES PRESENTED, THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS FOR THE APPROVAL FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR POINT, RIGHT? OH NO, THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S THE TWO YEAR BUILDING PERMIT.
YEAH, JUST THE BILLING PERMIT BE ISSUE WITH THE, OKAY, I'M SORRY.
I, YEAH, AS SOON AS I SAID THAT, THE LITTLE LIGHT CLICKED ON, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY IT, YOU KNOW, GETTING OLD IS, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, A RECOMMENDATION, UNLESS YOU CHANGE IT, THE A A A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WOULD INCLUDE, UH, STAFF'S CONDITION OF A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN TWO YEARS.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ONE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THAT, THAT WAS COMMISSIONER WALLACE, CORRECT? YES SIR.
AND THE SECOND WAS PATRICK MCMASTER.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND DENIAL TO, UH, OF P-L-S-P-U 20 24 0 1 4 2 TO CITY COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, NOW GO AHEAD RICHARD.
JUST TO MAKE SURE A YES VOTE WILL DENY THIS AND A NO VOTE WILL APPROVE IT, CORRECT? WELL, BASICALLY IT, AND, AND I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA COVER THAT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND A YES VOTE ON THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY? SO A YES VOTE, WE DON'T GET, GET TO DENY IT.
ALL WE GET TO DO IS RECOMMEND, BUT BASICALLY, YEAH, A YES VOTE IS DENIAL.
IS THAT EVERYBODY? OKAY? ALRIGHT, CAN WE RECORD YOUR VOTES PLEASE? ALL I HAVE SEVEN VOTES.
YOU WANNA PUBLISH THAT PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE SIX AFFIRMATIVE, ONE OPPOSED.
SO THAT MOTION WILL GO TO THAT MOTION OF DENIAL OR THAT RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
NOW LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK HERE.
IS, IS THIS GONNA REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW THAT YET? THE SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT IS FOR ZONE CHANGES.
OKAY, SO NOT FOR AN SUP MM-HMM,
SO THIS'LL BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE AT CITY COUNCIL.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT, WHEN IT'S GONNA BE ON THEIR AGENDA? TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 3RD.
SEPTEMBER 3RD, THIRD, THIRD, THIRD.
OKAY, SO, UH, AND THERE WON'T, WE WON'T PUBLISH ANOTHER NOTICE, CORRECT? THERE WILL BE A PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS, OKAY? MM-HMM,
SO ANYWAY, THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE, AND AGAIN, IT'S TENTATIVE, BUT THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ON THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER.
OKAY? NOW YOU CAN MONITOR THE CITY WEBSITE.
YEAH, THE WEBSITE AS WELL, UH, UNDER, UH, PUB BECAUSE THIS WILL, AGAIN, THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UH, ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU'LL SEE THE NEWS THINGS AND THE CRAWLERS AND, UH, SO YOU CAN LOOK AND AND VERIFY WHEN THIS WILL BE ON THEIR AGENDA, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO I'M, I'M NOT GONNA RECESS, BUT I THINK I'M JUST GONNA PAUSE FOR TWO OR THREE MINUTES 'CAUSE I ASSUME YOU, MOST OF YOU FOLKS DON'T WANT TO STAY.
SO THOSE OF YOU THAT, THAT WANTED TO DEPART, UH, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND, UM, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST
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HANG LOOSE FOR A MINUTE HERE.ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BACK HERE.
AND UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY BE WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM OR WATCH THE RECORDING LATER, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
ITEM FIVE B IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, PLZC 20 24 0 1 5 5 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 71 ACRES OF LAND FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SLASH AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO APPROXIMATELY 41 ACRES OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R TWO AND APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R SIX KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 1 0 0 2 2, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS 1 2 8 4 0 LOWER SKEEN ROAD, CITY OF SHIRTZ, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, YOUR HONOR,
AGAIN, A ZONE CHANGE FROM 80 TO R TWO AND R SIX DAISY MARQUEZ PLANNER.
UM, IT IS LOCATED ALONG LOWER SINE ROAD HERE IS THAT SADDLEBROOK RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, IT'S BEAR PID 3 1 0 0 2 2.
IT'S 7 71 ACRES IN TOTAL AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
UM, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT RA ALONG TRAINER HILL AND THEN I MEAN ALONG LOWER SEIN.
AND THEN THE REST IS AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S UNDEVELOPED TO THE NORTH.
WE HAVE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT THAT IS RESIDENTIAL AND AG.
AND THEN TO THE EAST WE HAVE AGAIN, LOWER SEIN WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO THE CREEK, UM, WHERE WE HAVE SOME MORE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE CITY OF SLO.
UM, AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE MORE WITHIN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
WE HAVE SOME THAT IS STILL UH, PDD AND THEN SOME MORE AD AND RA.
ON JULY 22ND, WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 13 PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES AND AS OF AUGUST 7TH TODAY, WE RECEIVED FOREIGN OPPOSITION.
A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IT WILL BE POSTED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND IT IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE SEPTEMBER 3RD CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT HAS REACHED THAT 20%.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT IT WILL AFFECT A SUPER MAJORITY AND IT DOES TRIGGER THAT SUPER MAJORITY VOTE FROM CITY COUNCIL.
SO UDC SECTION 2154 STATES THAT A ZONING CHANGES REQUIRED TO SALVAGE THE USE OF LAND AND DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING SOUND STABLE AND DESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, THE TOTAL UM, ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS 71 ACRES.
UM, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO 41 ACRES AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO TO THE WEST AND THEN TO THE EAST ARE TRYING TO DO 30 ACRES AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R SIX.
SO AGAIN, STAFF LOOKS AT CRITERIA IN UDC SECTION 2154 D, UM, TO EVALUATE ZONE CHANGES.
AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.
ONE WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE OR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, INCLUDING THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO YES, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R SIX AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE ON THE MAP, UM, WHERE THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW WITH THE YELLOW STAR JUST SHOWING WHERE IT IS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, THAT THE PROPERTY IS IN IS ALSO COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GENERAL AREAS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIXTURE OF HOUSING OPTIONS WITH SUPPORTING LAND USES.
AND THE COMPLEX SPECIFIES THAT WHEN CONSIDERING APPROPRIATENESS OF HOUSING DENSITY OR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY FACTORS SUCH AS CLASSIFICATION CONFLICTS AMONG LAND USES AND BUILDINGS AS WELL AS UNDUE CONCENTRATION OR DIFFUSION OF POPULATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEIR PROPOSED R SIX AND R TWO WILL PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN A PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMP COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE DESIGNATION.
TWO, WHERE THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES ON A MAP AMENDMENT PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND SAFE, ORDERLY AND EFFICIENT AND HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO AS PART OF PROMOTING HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS
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AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R SIX AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO DIMENSIONAL AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS STATED AT UDC SECTION 21 5 7 8 OF THE UDC ARE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS IMMEDIATELY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT TABLE TAKEN FROM OUR UDC, WHICH SHOWS THIS IS PROPOSED 70 BY ONE 20 LOTS AND 60 BY ONE 20 LOTS.
THE THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION AND STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SUCH USES WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE MEDIA AREA OF THE LINE TO BE RECLASSIFIED.
SO YES, THE PERMITTED, THE USES PERMITTED IN R SIX AND R TWO ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE MEDIA AREA OF THE LAND TO BE RECLASSIFIED.
AND AGAIN, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF R SIX IS TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7,200 SQUARE FEET WITH SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND PARKS NECESSARY TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, BASIC NEIGHBORHOOD UNITS.
AND THE PURPOSE OF R TWO IS TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL WITH A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 8,400 SQUARE FEET WITH AGAIN SCHOOL CHURCHES AND PARKS NECESSARY TO CREATE BASIC NEIGHBORHOOD UNITS.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED CHANGES INTO ACCORD WITH ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC SCHOOL STREETS, WATER SUPPLIES, SANITARY SEWERS OR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO THE AREA.
SO THE CITY OF CHURCH IS ACTUALLY THE WATER AND SEW PROVIDER FOR THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY AND LAURA SEIN IS IDENTIFIED AS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL WITH 90 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY IN THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, THERE IS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL WITH A HUNDRED, 120 TO 130 FEET OF RIGHT OF AWAY ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY NOT PLATTED.
SO THE CITY OF SHE'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL NEED TO REVIEW ALL PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS ONTO LOWER SEEKING ROAD DURING THE PLATTING PROCESS AND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS MAIL MAILED TO S-C-U-C-I-Z TO LET THEM KNOW THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
AND AS ALWAYS, UM, ATTACHMENTS TO THE STAFF REPORT WERE THE MOST RECENT DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT AND THE 10 YEARS CAMPUS FORECASTING PRESENTATION.
AND WE, UH, LET POLICE FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENTS KNOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND THEY LET US KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT SERVICING THESE AREAS.
FIVE, WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ANY ENVIRONMENTAL OR ECONOMICAL CHANGES WHICH WARRANT THE REQUESTED CHANGE.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE RECENTLY ANNEX PROPERTIES IN JULY, 2024 AND WAS GIVEN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AZ AD ZONING WITH ANNEXATION.
THE APPLICANT WAS WAITING FOR THE ANNEXATION TO START THEIR PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
AND AS YOU HAVE SEEN, IF YOU'VE GONE THAT WAY ON 1518 AND LOWER SINE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE HAPPENING TO SINE RIGHT NOW WITH NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CONCURRENT WITH THE FM 1518 CONSTRUCTION SIX WHERE THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH THE CHANGES IS REQUESTED.
THERE IS NO ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AGAIN, IT WAS GIVEN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT 80 ZONING WITH THIS A ANNEXATION, UM, THIS JULY.
AND WHETHER ALL THE APPLICANT'S BACK TAXES OWED TO THE CITY HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL AND THIS DOES NOT IN FACT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL EIGHT.
WHETHER OTHER CRITERIA ARE MET, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT STAFF HAS ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND AT THIS TIME HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.
SO DUE TO THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICIES AND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP STAFF IS RECOMMENDING YOUR APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 2 4 0 1 1 5.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THEY WILL YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION? ME AGAIN, PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
AND SINCE EVERYONE IN CHURCH IS A VETERAN, I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW I WAS IN THE ARMY.
I DIDN'T RETIRE, BUT I SURE USED THE GI.
SO
THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, ALL SINGLE FAMILY, NO COMMERCIAL STRIPS ALONG LOWER SEN ROAD.
UM, AS PART OF THE THE REZONING THOUGH, I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT 189 LOTS.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE START TALKING TO THE CITY ABOUT THE CONFIGURATION OF LOWER SEN ROAD.
UH, AS IT CROSSES THE CREEK, WE'LL HAVE 16 ACRES OF RIGHT OF WAY AND ABOUT 19 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
UM, BUT AS YOU SAW FROM STAFF'S PRESENTATION, I MEAN THE LOTS ARE PRETTY BIG.
7,200 SQUARE FEET AND 8,400 SQUARE FEET.
THOSE, THOSE ARE PRETTY BIG IN MY BOOK.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
AS YOU KNOW, MERITAGE HOMES BUILDS VERY NICE HOMES AT A NICE PRICE POINT.
UM, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE CITY.
WE WERE WAITING, LIKE STAFF SAID, WAITING OVER IT TO BE ANNEXED.
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ZONING PROCESS.AS SOON AS THE ANNEXATION WAS DONE, WE SUBMITTED THE ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION.
SO I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IT IS, UH, 7:54 PM FOR 1954 FOR US EX-MILITARY TYPES.
AND AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IS WELCOME TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.
UH, JUST MAYBE IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THIS DURING YOUR COMMENTS.
'CAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION REALLY FOR MR. CHRISTIANSEN OR ACTUALLY FOR DAISY'S ON THE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SHE MENTIONED SCHOOLS, PARKS, CHURCHES IS, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S PART OF THE BROADER, I GUESS, WHOLE AREA IN THAT AREA.
SO JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
AND THEN THE PRICE POINTS I WHAT YOU DID YOU MENTION WHAT THE PRICE POINTS ARE ARE GOING TO BE JUST ROUGHLY FOR THE HOUSES? ALRIGHT, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL GET, THAT'S, THAT'S, THANK, WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, NAME'S GUILLERMO GUDO AND I AM AT 1 2 8 7 0 LOWER SEGUIN ROAD.
UM, DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION CLIMATE.
UH, I KNOW THAT WITH THE, WITH DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, UH, SADDLEBROOK, UH, THE PROPERTY SAT FOR ALMOST A YEAR IN MID-CONSTRUCTION SENSE.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME CONCERNS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LEFT WITH SOMETHING SITTING THERE UNDEVELOPED FOR POSSIBLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
UH, AND DEFINITELY BRING SOME CONCERNS TO ME AND MY FAMILY IN THAT REGARD.
IT IS 7:56 PM AND PUBLIC INPUT IS CLOSED.
ALRIGHT, UM, COMMISSIONERS, WHO WANTS TO START? ANYBODY? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW ME, I GOT A LIST.
RICHARD, WOULD YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT SLOWLY, MORE SLOWLY WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS AGAIN, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE AND I THINK THAT LIFT STATION DOWN THERE IS DOWN THERE SOMEWHERE.
AND THEN THIS IS CARMEL RANCH OVER HERE.
UM, THIS IS STILL A HOME WITH SOME AG AND THIS IS JUST AG.
THIS IS, UH, SLO CREEK KIND OF THAT WEIRD TURN WHERE IT GETS REALLY NARROW.
THEY HAVE A SMALL BRIDGE AND THEN IT GOES OUT TO SLO, WHICH IS MORE AG.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT KIND OF GETS TO THE END OF OUR CITY LIMITS OFF OF LOWER SGE.
SO 1518 IS ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST.
AND RHINE VALLEY IS FAR FURTHER WEST? YES.
R VALLEY IS, UM, A LITTLE MORE FURTHER WEST.
DO YOU KNOW IF THIS AREA IS, UH, IN OR ADJACENT TO A FLOODPLAIN? UM, YES IT IS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AND THAT WILL COME INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY PLA UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT PLATTED AT THE MOMENT.
I I'LL LET, ALRIGHT, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, REGARDING THE PRICE POINTS, THERE IS A CILO NEIGHBORHOOD OF MERITAGE AND THEY START AROUND 3 76 TO 4 75, 9 90.
SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THEY'RE GONNA BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK, BUT THAT'S THE NEW DEVELOPMENT INSA, THAT'S THE PRICE POINTS OUT THERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PRICE POINTS REAL QUICK? SURE.
WE'LL JUST GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
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HE'S ABOUT SPOT ON.I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'D LIKE TO COME IN LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT WITH INTEREST RATES, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, YOU KNOW.
SO HIGH THREES TO LOW FOURS? CORRECT.
IS UH, LOWER SZA CITY RIGHT AWAY? YES, CORRECT.
AND IS IT PART OF A, ANY KIND OF, UM, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS? SO, OH, GO ON
SO THAT WILL COME IN INTO THE PLAING PROCESS.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID MENTION RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION.
SO AGAIN, WHEN ENGINEERING EVALUATES THE PLAT, THEY WOULD DISCUSS WITH THEM HOW WIDE THAT'S GONNA BE.
UM, AND THAT'S LOWER SEINEN, NOT ANYTHING INSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BUILT WITHIN THE CITY OF SHES, IF IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY, HAS TO BE TO CITY STANDARDS IF IT'S PUBLIC.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LONG LIST, BUT ONE OF THEM IS A SOAPBOX
UM, I DID WANT TO ADD, COULD YOU PUT THE DI THE SITE DIMENSIONS UP THERE REAL QUICK FOR ME? THAT'S THE OLD, THAT'S THE OLD FIRE MARSHAL IN ME.
SO R SIX IS, UH, 60 BY ONE 20.
UM, AND WE'RE TALKING APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES OF R SIX AND I THINK THAT'S IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT THE REINSTATEMENT OR THE GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL ABOUT R SIX AND R SEVEN.
UM, COULD YOU, DO YOU, I DON'T REMEMBER, DID YOU HAVE A SLIDE ABOUT THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, WHAT THIS AREA WAS? YES, SIR.
UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'LL ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION THE GENTLEMAN HAD.
UM, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU EARLY WHEN, WHEN THE ORIGINAL COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, WE HAD A VISION OF HOW WE WANTED SOUTHERN SHIRTS TO LOOK.
AND IT WAS BASICALLY LARGE LOTS, ESTATE LOTS.
IT WAS NOT THIS CRAMPED LITTLE TYPICAL SUBDIVISION.
AND AS THE DEVELOPERS STARTED TO, UH, REACT TO MARKET FORCES, THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE WANTED.
PEOPLE WANTED TRADITIONAL, I DON'T WANNA CALL 'EM SMALL LOTS BECAUSE UH, UM, WE HAD THIS WHOLE R SIX R SEVEN DISCUSSION, UH, A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
I LIVE IN SAVANNAH SQUARE UP HERE ON, ON THE HILL ON IN SAVANNAH DRIVE.
AND BASICALLY I THINK MINE'S R SEVEN IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
AND IT LOOKS FINE TO ME ANYWAY.
UM, SO WE ASKED COUNCIL FOR SOME GUIDANCE AND, AND YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONSIDER UP TO 30 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS.
UM, BUT IF, IF YOU COULD SEE, UH, SO THIS YELLOW AREA IS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU READ THE DESCRIPTION AND YEAH, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THIS ENTIRE AREA OUT THERE IN SOUTHERN CHURCH IS NOW COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE, NO OFFENSE, IS EXACTLY WHAT HE BROUGHT TO US TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYBODY COME IN HERE AND WANT TO BUILD, UH, WHAT WE MIGHT CALL A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE RETAIL AND CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS.
NO, THIS AREA IS GONNA BE COVERED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME SPACES CARVED OUT FOR, UM, MULTIFAMILY FOR R FOUR.
UM, BUT I, I HAVE NOT BEEN A BIG FAN OF THE RECENT, THE THE NEW VERSION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE.
I THINK IT'S WHAT I WROTE HERE WAS COMPREHENSIVE LINE USE PLAN EQUALS WHATEVER YOU WANT.
'CAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY, THERE'S VERY LITTLE STUFF THAT YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY.
UH, AND I KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION.
YOU DO, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHERE'S EVERYTHING ELSE? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY'S PLANNING BIG AREAS LIKE THE UM, UH, WELL EVEN CROSS FINEING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT PROJECT STARTED YEARS AGO, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
THEY HAD RETAIL, THEY HAD A SCHOOL, THEY HAD OVER 55 OUT.
WELL, OVER THE YEARS THAT'S CHANGED.
UM, I DID WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT, UM, THE FRONTAGE ALONG LOWER SEINEN ROAD.
DID, DID, DID WE DO ANYTHING WITH THE LAND USE PLAN TO,
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TO PUT ANY COMMERCIAL IN THERE? UM, DO YOU REMEMBER YOU'LL SEE THAT MORE ALONG FM 1518.BECAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT DESIGNATION IS CALLED.
IT WILL BE THE LOCAL CORRIDOR.
UH, JUST COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR.
UM, SO WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SLO ABOUT THEIR DIRECTION WITH LAURA SINE.
AND WE HAD CONTEMPLATING DOING SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG THAT.
AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANY OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE AVOIDED THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL LOTS OF LAND OUT THERE.
WE MAY SEE BID A COMPANY WENT AND WANT TO DO A SMALL RETAIL OR, OR SOMETHING.
UM, AGAIN, I I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS BROAD BRUSH THING THAT WE, THAT WE APPLIED OUT THERE.
UM, SO IT'S NOT REALLY, BUT DID THOSE, DID DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, DID WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF, UH, POTENTIAL FOR A MONSTER HOME OR MONSTER COMMUNITY TO ENSUE? LIKE IS THERE A, UH, DEDICATED, UH, START BUILD AND IN BUILD TIME? DO YOU KNOW
SO MONSTER COMMUNITY IS BASICALLY WHEN YOU START BUILDING AND THEN YOU STOP AND YOU WALK AWAY AND IT'S LEFT THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO THEN DEAL WITH.
SO HOPEFULLY, BUT, BUT WELL AGAIN, I MEAN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MERITAGE HOMES, BIG NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
I MEAN, THEY DO THEIR RESEARCH.
THEY, UH, THEY PLAN TO COME IN AS SOON AS I FINISH WITH THE ZONING.
THEY WANT TO COME IN WITH THE PLAT, START WORKING ON THE STREETS.
I MEAN, THEY WANT TO BUILD IT.
THEY THINK THERE'S DEMAND FOR HOMES OUT HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ANYONE ABANDONING IT, I JUST, I CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
AND IT'S SHORT OF ECONOMIC GUARD, ARMAGEDDON.
I MEAN, WE GOT BIGGER PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
AND, AND THE CITY HAS KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE, UH, SUBDIVISIONS IN, IN SHIRTS WHERE THEY WERE PLATTED AND, UH, NO PAVED ROADS, BUT, UM, DIRT ROADS WERE CUT.
UH, AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THOSE NOW.
AND SO THE LATEST IS THERE'S A TIME LIMIT ON A, ON A, A MASTER PLAN OR WHATEVER.
THAT IF IT, IF SOMETHING ISN'T DONE WITHIN X NUMBER OF YEARS, IT UM, SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PAPER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE NO INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OR THEY'RE COMPLETELY ABANDONED.
SO BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THE CITY OF SHIRTS TO BECOME A LEGAL LOT, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE PLATTING PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO SAY, WHERE WE LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS.
AND IT IS A CITY REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT TO WATER AND SEWER.
SO THEY CAN'T MAKE IT A LEGAL LOT AND BUILD ANYTHING AND GET BUILDING PERMITS WITHOUT ACTUALLY BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR, YOU KNOW, COMING IN WITH THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT SO THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO MAKE SURE, OKAY, IF THEY BAIL, THEN WE CAN COME IN AND BUILD IT.
AND THEY ALREADY PUT UP THE MONEY UP FRONT.
SO THERE'RE NOT THERE, THERE MAY BE, THERE NOT MAY BE, COME ON.
AGAIN, EVEN TALK TONIGHT, THERE MAY NOT BE ANY HOMES BUILT, BUT THE STREETS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE STREETS AND THE WATER AND THE SEWER, UNLIKE THESE TWO THAT I'VE MENTIONED WHERE THERE ARE NO UTILITIES OR ANYTHING.
AND THEN, UH, BUT ONCE AGAIN THERE, THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT.
AM I RIGHT EMILY? SO A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL IS GOOD FOR TWO YEARS, AND IN THAT TIME YOU EITHER HAVE TO GET A FINAL PLA OR, UM, THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT EXPIRES.
SAME THING WITH THE FINAL PLA.
YOU HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR TWO YEARS AND AT THAT TIME YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, CONSTRUCTED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY AND YOUR PLAT RECORDED OR BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AND START OVER AGAIN.
THERE IS THE ABILITY TO GET A SIX MONTH EXTENSION YEAH.
JUST LET ME JUST HAVE ONE LAST THING.
WE'RE STARTING TO HIRE THE ENGINEERS TO FINISH THE PLAT.
SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE ECONOMY, THEN THEY DON'T SUBMIT THE PLAT APPLICATIONS, THEY DON'T RECORD THE PLATS.
IT JUST REMAINS FARMLAND UNTIL THE ECONOMY TURNS AROUND AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL COME BACK WITH THOSE PLATS AND, AND FIX EVERYTHING.
SO YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OLD RULES, BUT MOST CITIES HAVE FIXED THAT WHERE ONCE YOU START, YOU'RE LOCKED IN.
THERE WILL EVENTUALLY BE RETAIL AND THINGS TO DO DOWN HERE.
AND, AND I THINK CROSS FIND STILL HAS THEIR CITY CENTER PLAN AT THAT INTERSECTION.
BUT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE AROUND HERE, IT TAKES ROOFTOPS BEFORE THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA INVEST IN RETAIL.
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TAKEN TO GET SHIRTS STATIONED OFF THE GROUND.BUT THEY'RE FINALLY GETTING OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE THERE'S ROOFTOPS OUT THERE AND THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC.
SO IT'LL HAPPEN DOWN HERE EVENTUALLY, JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON, BUT MAYBE IN 10 YEARS.
I LOOKED AT THE, UM, BAR SHOP, UH, BROKERAGE SIGN UP THERE ON THE, UH, HEB LOWE'S PROPERTY FOR YEARS BEFORE SOMETHING FINALLY HAPPENED.
SO, UM, ANYONE ELSE? I, UH, I'M, I'M WRESTLING WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO COMMENT AND PROBABLY BETTER JUST TO LET IT GO.
WE GOT, I, I'M LOOKING HERE AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FORMS THAT WAS SENT IN AND YEAH.
UM, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, THEY'RE UPSET.
UM, AND I, NO, YOU KNOW, AND I TELL EVERYBODY, UM, IT, IT, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A REALITY OF TODAY'S WORLD.
IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT COULD ALL STAY FARMLAND OUT THERE, BUT IT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE TO MOVE AROUND HERE TO GET AWAY FROM IT, BECAUSE AGAIN, DRIVE 46 FROM BETWEEN SINE AND, AND 35, THERE ARE HOMES EVERYWHERE, BUT WHERE YOU REALLY WANT TO GO IS TAKE 3 0 6 NORTH FROM 35 AND DRIVE UP TOWARDS CANYON LAKE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SPEAK ON YOUR POINT REAL QUICK, I'M SORRY.
WHEN WE DID THIS REZONING TO RA TWO MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO, THE POINT WAS TO WHEN PROJECTS CAME IN THAT WANTED TO DO THIS EXACT THING THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AT THAT POINT WE COULD HAVE IT.
I THINK IT WAS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL, DID YOU? I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT OFF THE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I I THINK THEY ENDED UP ZONING IT ALL, UH, AD AND, UH, YES.
AND THEN BECAUSE THE IDEA, UH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WAS THEN LET THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS COME IN AND SAY, NO, I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE WE'RE SEEING HERE.
UH, AND IT'S NOT REALLY THAT, IT'S, IT'S THEM COMING IN AND SAYING, SO RATHER THAN US TELLING THEM IT'S GONNA BE OUR TWO OR WHATEVER.
AND I ASSUME WHAT YOU SHOWED US AS AN OLD IS ONE IS THE MAP HASN'T BEEN UPDATED YET WHEN I SEE THE RA IN THERE, SO, OR WAS THAT ALREADY IN THE CITY? THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE CITY.
THE, YEAH, IT WAS THE REAR PORTION THAT WASN'T OKAY.
WELL, I, I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT CHANGE.
AND, AND ONE OF MY FORMER FIRE CHIEFS, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT.
AND ONE MORNING I COME TO WORK AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE PAPERBACK BOOK ON MY DESK AND IT SAYS, WHO MOVED MY CHEESE
WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, JOHN? NO.
THAT WE APPROVE PL SPU 2 0 2 4 0 1 4 2 OH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, I'M SORRY.
WE RECANT THAT I RE I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PL ZC 2 0 2 4 0 1 55.
YOU JUST, I GET LOST ALL THE TIME GOING THROUGH HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE A, A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HECTOR AND, AND A, UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLZC 20 24 0 1 5 5.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
AND AGAIN, THIS, UH, HAS UH, WAS ON ONE OF THE OPENING STRIDES.
THIS IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER AT CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY, ITEM FIVE C ISN'T IS THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING PLZC 20 24 0 1 53, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
THEY DON'T ALWAYS COME IN ORDER.
UH, PLZC 20 24 0 1 53 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 79
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ACRES OF LAND FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R ONE KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 1 0 0 6 0.MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS 8 6 7 6 TRINITY HILL ROAD, CITY OF SHIRTZ, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, DAISY.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS PLZC 2 2 4 0 1 5 3 A PROPOSED KNOWN CHANGE FROM PDD TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE ON APPROXIMATELY 79 ACRES.
HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN.
IT IS ACTUALLY LOCATED ALONG TRAINER HILL.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 79 ACRES AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PDD AND IT WAS PART OF THAT LARGER PROPOSED STERLING GROVE PDD THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2022.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT REMAINS UNDEVELOPED AND UNTOUCHED SINCE THEN.
UM, TO THE NORTH IS THE REST OF THAT PROPOSED PROPERTY THAT WAS WITHIN THAT PDD TO THE SOUTH.
WE HAVE TRAINER HAIL TO THE EAST.
WE HAVE, UM, PROPERTIES WITHIN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
IT HAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, A RESIDENCE, BUT IT ALSO HAS SOME AG.
AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE STILL PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND MORE OF THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
SO ON JULY 22ND, WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF SIX PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES AND AS OF AUGUST 7TH WE RECEIVED FIVE IN FAVOR AND ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT AND IT'LL BE POSTED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE ZONE CHANGE IS ALSO TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE SEPTEMBER 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO UDC SECTION TEN ONE FOUR FOUR AGAIN STATES THAT A ZONE CHANGE IS REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH THE USE OF LAND AND DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING SOUND STABLE AND DESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES FOR APPROXIMATELY 79 ACRES OF LAND, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH CRITERIA UH, LISTED IN UDC SECTION 2154 D ONE, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGER ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN, INCLUDING THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO YES, THE PROPOSED R ONE DOES IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS, IS IDENTIFIED AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MEANT TO PROVIDE FOR A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TAG WITH SUPPORTING LAND USES.
YOU CAN SEE IT HERE OUTLINED IN YELLOW ALONG TRAINER HILL.
AND JUST TO HELP ORIENT YOU, THIS IS 1518 ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST AND THIS IS KIND OF THAT COMMERCIAL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MIXED USE, THE LOCAL CORRIDOR, UH, THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE REQUIRES 9,600 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FOR HOUSING TYPE THAT IS NOT YET ALONG TRAINER HILL ROAD.
AND THEIR PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE PROVIDES A NEW HOUSING TYPE WITHIN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA AND IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMP PLAN.
LAND USE DESIGNATION AND IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND SAFE, EARLY, EFFICIENT AND HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, AS PART OF PROMOTING HEALTH SAFETY IN GENERAL, WORK FOR THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
AND THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE AS LISTED IN TABLE 21 5 7 A SEEN HERE TO THE LEFT ARE COMPATIBLE WITHIN THE MEDIA AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S 80 BY ONE 20 LOTS AND MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 9,600 SQUARE FEET.
TWO, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IN ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION AND THE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SUCH USES WILL BE APPROPRIATE AND THE MEDIA AREA OF THE LAND AND BE RECLASSIFIED.
YES, THE USE IS PERMITTED IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE MEDIA AREA TO BE RECLASSIFIED.
THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF R ONE IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS ON A MINIMUM 9,600 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE AGAIN TOGETHER WITH SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND PARKS NECESSARY TO CREATE BASIC NEIGHBORHOOD UNITS.
THE PROPOSED R ONE WOULD ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ABOUT 357 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THE MINIMUM DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN 2157 A.
BUT KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE REQUIRED STREETS, LARGER LOTS, IRREGULAR, LOTS DRAINAGE, AND ANY PROPOSED AMENITIES LIKE PARKS.
AND ADDITIONALLY THE LOT DIMENSIONS OF THE PROPOSED R ONE ACT AS A TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICT ADJACENT TO THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROPERTY TO THE WEST FOUR.
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IN ACCORD WITH ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS, STREETS, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWERS, OR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO THE AREA.SO THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE GREEN VALLEY SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT CCN FOR WATER AND SEWER.
AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG TRAINER HILL ROAD, WHICH IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL WITH 90 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY PER OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND ALTHOUGH THE PROPERTY'S NOT CURRENTLY PLATTED, THE CITY OF SHE'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW ALL PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT DURING THE PLOTTING PROCESS.
AND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS MAILED TO S-C-U-C-I-S-D TO NOTIFY THEM OF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND THE CITY OF CHARLOTTES POLICE FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENTS HAVE NOT INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS, UM, REGARDING THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUESTS OR THEIR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
FIVE, WHETHER THERE HAVE BEEN ANY ENVIRONMENTAL OR ECONOMICAL CHANGES WHICH WARRANT THE REQUEST TO CHANGE.
SO AS I STATED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE STERLING GROVE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND HAS BEEN SINCE ITS APPROVAL WITH ORDINANCE 22 S 28 AND 2022.
AND THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY ACTUALLY CONSISTS OF PORTIONS OF PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, AND PHASE THREE OF THE STERLING GROVE PDD.
THE PDD IS BUILT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH A MIXTURE OF DIMENSIONS BEING 55 BY 100 LOTS, 65 BY ONE 10 LOTS AND HALF ACRE LOTS.
AND THE PDD RESTRICTS DEVELOPMENT TO THE STREET LAYOUT AND PHASING THAT IS DICTATED BY THE PD DD AND WAS APPROVED BY THE PD DD.
AND ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT APPLICANT CAN TECHNICALLY DEVELOP THE LAND WITH THE APPROVED PDD DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON THE PORTIONS OF UNDEVELOPED LAND FOR REQUIRED POINTS OF ACCESS, STREETS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE STERLING GROVE PD D THAT ARE WITHIN PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRENT PLANNING APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME.
THE APPLICANT IS READY TO START THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND START SUBMITTING PLANNING APPLICATIONS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IS APPROVED AND LEAVING THE STERLING GROVE PDD AND AN APPROVED ZONE CHANGE TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT THE APPROPRIATE PLANNING APPLICATIONS WITHOUT BEING RESTRICTED TO THE STERLING GROVE PDD LAYOUT AND WITHOUT NEEDING TO DEPEND ON ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP THE REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE THE APPLICANT NEEDS.
AND IF THE ZONE CHANGE IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO MEET ALL OF THE CITY SHIRTS REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR APPROXIMATELY 79 ACRES INDEPENDENTLY SIX WHERE THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH THE CHANGES REQUESTED.
NO, THERE WAS NO ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IN 2022.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF A LARGER PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS STERLING GROVE PDD AND NO GROUND HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR THE PROPOSED PD D SINCE THEN.
AND THE APPLICANT IS READY TO DEVELOP AND TO MEET THE CITY OF SHE'S REQUIREMENTS THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO CHANGE THE STREET LAYOUT, WHICH ULTIMATELY CHANGES THE INTENT AND CHARACTER OF THE STERLING GROVE PDDA ZONE CHANGE ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SOONER AND SUBMIT THE APPLICABLE PLANNING APPLICATIONS.
WHETHER ALL OF THE APPLICANT'S BACK TEST IS OWED TO THE CITY HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL, THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL EIGHT.
WHETHER OTHER CRITERIA MET, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT STAFF HAS INSURED ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND AT THIS TIME HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 2 4 0 1 53 ZONE CHANGE TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE DUE TO ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND MEETING THE INTENT OF THE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE DESIGNATION.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
YOU LOOK FAMILIAR, YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE HERE.
I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THE SADDLEBROOK AND CARMEL RANCH.
PAUL LANDA, MTR ENGINEERS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
1 2 7 7 0 CIMARRON PATH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 9.
UM, AS WAS DISCUSSED, WE DID MEET WITH STAFF AND DUE TO THE REQUIREMENT OF FOLLOWING THE PDD, UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO SEPARATE THIS AND MAKE THIS A STANDALONE PROJECT.
THE REALLY THE INTENT IS THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING TO EMULATE, UH, HALLIE'S COVE, WHICH IS JUST TO THE WEST, UH, RIGHT THERE ON 1518.
UM, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOK LOOKING TO DO.
AND SO, UH, THIS SITE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SIMILAR HOUSING TO THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY.
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SO WE ALRIGHT.ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT IS, UH, 8:23 PM AND THE, UH, MEETING IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS TOPIC IS, UH, WELCOME TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.
SO IT IS 8:24 PM
IT IS 8:24 PM AND PUBLIC INPUT IS CLOSED.
UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO IS, IS THIS INTENDED TO BE LIKE AN ENCLAVE SUBDIVISION OR IS IT GONNA PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE LARGER RIGHT.
IT, WE WE'RE, UH, REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT UH, PROPERTIES.
BUT YES, WE WILL HAVE STREET STEP OUTS TO, UH, ALL ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
IS THE STERLING GROVE PDD STILL IN EFFECT? YES.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, UM, TRYING TO TAKE THE PROPERTY OR REQUESTING TO LEAVE THE PDD AND BE R ONE, WHATEVER REMAINS PART OF THAT STERLING GROVE PDD CAN BE BUILT AND STILL USE THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ESTABLISHED WITHIN THAT PDD.
QUESTIONS? UM, REPEL, RELA REQUIRED.
IT'S NOT PLATTED SO IT WOULD OH, IT HASN'T BEEN.
HAVE THEY, SO THEN THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED A MASTER PLAN EITHER YET.
IS IT THE SAME DEVELOPER AS THE PDD? NO.
UH, LIKE I SAY, JUST, JUST QUESTIONS HERE.
UM, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T THINK I WAS A BIG FAN OF STERLING GROVE'S PDD IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT UM, IT SEEMED, IS THIS THE ONE WHERE THE, UM, WASTEWATER CCN KIND OF CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY? CORRECT.
SO YOU HAD TO HAVE HALF ACRE LOTS OVER HERE.
NOW I'M ASSUMING THAT THE R ONE IS ALL ON THE OTHER ON OUR SIDE OF THAT LINE.
SO THIS PORTION WITH WAS WITHIN THAT HALF ACRE LOT.
SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE HALF ACRE BE NO, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE THAT THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO IS R ONE, BUT THEY CAN GO AS BIG AS THEY NEED TO.
BUT BUT TO GET AN ONSITE SUIT, WHAT I, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THEY HAVE TO DO MINIMUM HALF ACRE.
SO I, I, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
UM, WITHIN THIS AREA THAT WE'RE GONNA, THAT WE'RE AT, THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO REZONE, IS THAT ENTIRELY, DOES THAT HAVE WASTEWATER SERVICE TO IT? SO THAT'S ENTIRELY WITHIN THE GREEN VALLEY.
SO THAT, WELL, AND IF I CAN INTERRUPT YEAH, GO AHEAD.
THERE HAS BEEN AN AGREEMENT MADE BETWEEN GREEN VALLEY AND SHIRTS THAT GREEN VALLEY WILL PROVIDE THAT WILL SEND THEIR WASTEWATER TO THE SOUTH PLANT.
SO IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ANY SEPTIC.
SOUNDS LIKE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION THERE.
I I GOTTA GO BACK AND WATCH THAT VIDEO.
'CAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE WHOLE THING.
UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ANYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING CLAYTON? NO.
SO, UM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING DAISY? NO.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE CAN APPROVE, WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, DENIAL OR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLZC 20 24 0 1 53 SECOND.
THAT WAS, UH, WALLACE DOWN THERE ON THE END.
I NEED TO HAVE MY FINGER ON THE, ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY
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COUNCIL OF PLZC 20 24 0 1 53.IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENT? PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTES.
YOU ALL GETTING AHEAD OF ME AGAIN HERE? UH, IT'S, YEAH.
WHO'S MISSING HERE? IS IT OPEN UP? YEAH.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[6. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION:]
SIX, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RELA FOR THE ROYAL MANUFACTURING PHASE THREE SUBDIVISION LOTS, THREE THROUGH SIX, BLOCK THREE, APPROXIMATELY 75.24 ACRES OF LAND.
GENERALLY LOCATED 1,860 FEET TO THE WEST OF THE TEJAS WAY AND DOOR LANE INTERSECTION, ALSO KNOWN AS KAMAU COUNTY PARCEL ID 4 7 4 7 7 2.
CITY OF SHE'S KAMAU COUNTY, TEXAS.
I JUST WISH ROYAL WOULD MAKE UP THEIR MIND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO UP THERE.
ROYAL MANUFACTURING PHASE THREE, REPL OF LOTS, THREE THROUGH SIX BLOCK THREE SAMUEL SENIOR PLANNER.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN GREEN.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 75 ACRES OF LAND.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED MANUFACTURING LIGHT M1.
UH, THIS IS DOOR LANE OVER HERE TO EAST AND THIS IS TEJAS WAY.
THIS IS THE VERY NORTH OF SHIRTS.
SO THE ORIGINAL PLAS BEEN RECORDED.
UH, YOU'LL SEE HERE THERE'S, IT'S, IT WAS LOT ONE AND LOT TWO AND THEN LOT TWO IS THIS VERY LARGER, MUCH LARGER PORTION HERE.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPL THIS INTO FOUR SEPARATE LOTS.
UH, THIS IS FOUR, SIX, AND FIVE YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE.
AND THIS IS LOT THREE DOWN HERE.
SO AS MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 75 ACRES.
IT'S ZONE MANUFACTURING LOT, UH, LIGHT.
THEY'RE PROPOSING THE SUBDIVIDED INTO FOUR LOTS.
GOING BACK YOU'LL SEE THAT LOTS THREE AND LOTS FIVE HERE.
UH, ONLY HAVE ACCESS THROUGH AN ACCESS EASEMENT BY THIS PLAP, UH, TE HOUSE.
IT DOES NOT HAVE FRONT TO THAT.
SO UNDER UDC SECTION 21 9 3 J, EVERY LOT SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH ADEQUATE ACCESS TO A PUBLIC STREET, EITHER BY DIRECT FUNDAGE ON SUCH STREET OR BY PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TO CONSIDER THIS.
AND THE PROPOSED REPLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS.
ORDINANCES, REGULATION OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY FIRE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT.
SEE, YOU'RE READING MY MIND AGAIN.
YOU, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE MY QUESTION WAS, I THOUGHT YOU GUYS HANDLED PLATS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT LITTLE THING THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACCESS.
UM, AGAIN, I'M SORRY GUYS, I JUST, THE THE FIRE MARSHAL IN ME JUST WON'T GO AWAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF TEOS WAY.
THE CITY SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE DEAD END STREETS YET.
UM, SO THERE'S JUST, UH, AND, AND, AND MY OTHER EXPERIENCE, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU PLOT IT, UM, WHERE, WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR, FOR FIRE ACCESS AS A SECONDARY MEANS AND IT ENDS UP BEING GATED BY THE, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I'M THINKING SINCE THESE, SINCE THIS SEPARATES THE BLOCKS, IT'LL BE MORE YEAH, WE WON'T, WE'RE NOT CUTTING THROUGH SOMEBODY'S BACK PATIO OR WHATEVER.
SO, BUT IT'S JUST THE ONE, THERE'LL BE NO ACCESS FROM THE WESTERN SIDE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT HERE.
THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT HERE.
UH, THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT HERE AND THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
AND I WILL MENTION THAT THERE'S ALSO CROSS LOT ACCESS ALONG EACH OF THESE UP AT THE FRONTAGE.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND I REMEMBER THE, THE DEVELOPER DOING THIS.
HE, HE, THE, THEIR INTENT WAS TO TAKE TEO WAY AND CONNECTED TO BEN KEITH, UH, GOING ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS
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AND THE RAILROAD COMMISSION CAME OUT AND SAID, NO MORE GREAT CROSSINGS.AND UH, SO, UH, SO BOX PUT AWAY, I PUSH IT BACK ON.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? UH, THE EASEMENTS ARE IRREVOCABLE, CORRECT? OR NOT? I'M SORRY, NOT THEY, THEY CAN'T BE CLOSED OFF, CORRECT? UH, I MEAN I WOULD SAY THEY CAN BE, BUT BY, I MEAN THERE IS A PROCESS IN WHICH TO VACATE EASEMENTS, BUT THEY ARE, BUT YEAH, THESE ARE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, AND THOSE, THOSE ONE OR TWO INSTANCES WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE FIRE LANES THAT RUN AROUND AND, AND THOSE GATES HAVE, UM, NOX LOCKS ON 'EM.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, THIS IS, UM, OOH, WE CAN APPROVE THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN THOUGH WE CAN APPROVE, DENY, OR APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, BUT THIS IS OUR ACTION TONIGHT.
SO IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PLRP 2 0 2 4 0 1 5 4.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER ALL.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RE UH, TO APPROVE PLRP 20 24 0 1 54.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
WOULD YOU PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? WE HAVE SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[7. REQUESTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
ANNOUNCEMENTS.ITEM SEVEN, A REQUEST BY COMMISSIONERS TO PLACE ITEMS ON FUTURE P AND Z AGENDA.
SEVEN B ANNOUNCEMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND YOU KNOW, DAN CAN SLAP MY WRIST LATER.
UH, I HAVE NOT WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM LAST NIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING.
CAN I ASSUME THE REAPPOINTMENTS WERE ALL APPROVED? OKAY, SO THAT WAS MYSELF AND JUDY AND JOHN.
AND WHO WAS THIS FROM? DANIELLE.
SOMETIMES I WONDER THAT ONE, ONE OF THESE DAYS THEY'RE GONNA GET FED UP WITH ME, BUT APPARENTLY I'M, I'M OKAY FOR NOW.
ACTUALLY, I'M HAVING A, I'M HAVING FUN TONIGHT.
I TOLD EMILY AS I WALKED IN 'CAUSE THIS AFTERNOON WAS NOT GOOD.
SO I TOLD HER MY, MY CRANKY METER WAS PRETTY HIGH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE DOWN QUITE A BIT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
ALRIGHT, SEVEN C ANNOUNCEMENTS BY CITY STAFF.
YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING? NOTHING.
OKAY, IT IS, UH, 8:37 PM AND THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.