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[ Call to Order ]
THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024 IS NOW IN SESSION.FIRST ON THE AGENDAS, COUNCIL MEMBER MAC MACALUSO WILL LEAD US WITH THE OPENING PRAYER AND THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU ASKING FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE.
AS WE MEET TONIGHT, I ASK THAT YOU WORK THROUGH US ALL TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT CITY AND ALLOW US TO HAVE MEANING, MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS ON THE ISSUES BEING CONSIDERED.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS AROUND NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL HONORED TEXAS.
[1. Appointment of Mayor Pro-Tem - Appointing the Mayor Pro-Tem (Mayor/Council)]
THE AGENDA IS THE APPOINTMENT OF OUR MAYOR PRO TEM.IT IS MY SINCERE, SINCERE REGRET THAT MAYOR PRO TEM GIBSON ANNOUNCED HER RESIGNATION TWO WEEKS PAST.
IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO HAVE HER SERVE OUR GREAT CITY SHIRTS.
THEREFORE, OUR CITY COUNCIL NOW OFFICIALLY CONSISTS OF SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH HAS CREATED A MAYOR PRO TEMP VACANCY.
AND ACCORDING TO OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES, COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK IS NEXT AND HAS ACCEPTED THE APPOINTMENT.
THEREFORE, THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK AS OUR NEW CITY MAYOR PRO TEMP.
MOTION WAS MADE BY THE CHAIR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE FIVE AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, IF YOU, UH, CONGRATULATIONS.
WE WILL NOW ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE, UH, TO, UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP WESTBROOK, RIGHT HAND.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
CONGRATULATIONS, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM.
[ First Responder Art Contest Winner-T-shirt promotion for Breast Cancer Awareness (S.Williams/J.Lowery)]
MOVE ON.OUR, UH, NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, OUR FIRST RESPONDER ART CONTEST AND WIN OF THE T-SHIRT, PROMOTION FOR BREAST AWARENESS.
UH, CHIEF LOWERY, WHICH ONE IS GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNSEL, MR. WILLIAMS, THIS EVENING, WE'D JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS BREAST.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS PROGRAM, AND THE CHURCH FIRST RESPONDERS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
AND USUALLY, UH, OFFICERS GET PINK PATCHES, PINK, UH, BADGES, AND IT'S A WHOLE UNIFORM CHANGE AND WE JUST REALLY COULDN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT.
SO WE WANTED TO ENGAGE OUR MEMBERS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AT, UH, CLEMENS HIGH SCHOOL, MAKE IT A HOME, UH, PROJECT.
AND WITH THAT, WE MADE, WE REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, REACHED OUT TO THE ART TEACHER, MISS AMANDA, UH, AGUILAR, AND WE HAD AN ART CONTEST TO COME UP WITH A T-SHIRT DESIGN FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE BOARD IS THE WINNING, UH, SUBMISSION.
SO IT WAS SELECTED BY OUR EMS FIRE AND POLICE.
AS THE WINNING DESIGN, OUR T-SHIRTS WILL BE READY NEXT WEEK.
WE WILL START SELLING THOSE FOR $20 A PIECE.
IT WILL BE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
WE WILL TAKE CASH AND A VENMO ACCOUNT.
WE'LL POST THAT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
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IT'S A LIMITED, UH, RUN ON THAT.WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALSO TO SHOW A FURTHER APPRECIATION, IS THE FIRE ASSOCIATION AND THE POLICE ASSOCIATION BOTH DONATED $500 CASH FOR A $1,000 SCHOLARSHIP.
OUR WINNER IS MS. EMMA JENKINS, AND SHE'S RIGHT BACK HERE.
AND WE COME TO FIND OUT, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME, HER FATHER IS ALSO A PARAMEDIC FOR TOYOTA PLANT AND A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN AT PART-TIME, UH, FIREMAN AT THE BRACKEN FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE HAVE THE LARGE CHECK HERE IN THE PRESENTATION, JUST A MINUTE, WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR EMS CHIEF.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE A THOUSAND DOLLARS SCHOLARSHIP, SHE'S ALSO BEING GIVEN A SCHOLARSHIP TO ATTEND A NATIONAL REGISTRY EMT CLASS, WHICH IS VALUED AT $1,300 THAT SHE IS ALSO INTERESTED IN TAKING.
SO SHE'S GOING TO BE ATTENDING THAT CLASS CLASS.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST ONE, I WANNA RECOGNIZE EMMA, FOR HER PASSION AND HER ABILITY TO, TO PRODUCE THIS WORK, PRESENT HER THE CHECK TONIGHT FROM THE POLICE FIRE AND EMS AND THAT ALSO GIVE HER HER CERTIFICATE FOR THE EMT.
AND ON A FINAL NOTE, WHICH I'M REALLY, UH, PROUD OF, AND IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME, BUT, UH, HER ARTWORK WILL ALSO BE ON THE COVER OF THE SHIRTS MAGAZINE FOR OCTOBER.
SO, UH, MR. MAYOR AND, UH, MR. WILLIAMS, IF Y'ALL WOULD MIND STEPPING DOWN FOR A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE WITH US ALSO IS RICHARD KUNZ, DANIEL TRAVINA FROM THE POLICE ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE DANA KELLUM FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND MS. AMANDA AGUILAR FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND JASON BA BTT IS OUR EMS CHIEF.
AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS, EMMA.
FANTASTIC JOB, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SELLING THESE T-SHIRTS OUT WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS.
DO I STAND? YOU CAN STAND HERE.
UM, ARE OUR STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A LITTLE MONEY AND SCHOLARSHIP, BUT ALSO TO RECOGNIZE EMMA? SHE STATE QUALIFIER LAST YEAR AND A STATE MEDALIST.
SO OUR, OUR STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY MAKE WONDERFUL ART.
AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT OUR ART STUDENTS, WE'RE REALLY GREAT TEACHERS TO THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU.
UH, MY WIFE'S A CANCER SURVIVOR TOO.
WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU GET YOURSELF SCREENED.
IF THERE'S ANY DOUBT, CHECK IT OUT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, ADMIRAL FOR, FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A COUPLE PROCLAMATIONS.
[ Fire Prevention Week (S.Williams/G.Rodgers/B.Boney) presented by Councilmember Robert Westbrook]
HAVE THE, UH, FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, UH, WE CAN HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVES.PLEASE JOIN ME UP HERE AND COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK WILL BE READING THE PROCLAMATION.
OUR PREVENTION WEEK OCTOBER 6TH THROUGH THE 12TH, 2024, WHEREAS THE CITY OF SHEZ IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL LIVING IN AND VISITING OUR CITY.
AND WHEREAS FIRE IS A SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, AND HOMES ARE THE LO ARE
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THE LOCATIONS WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE AT THE GREATEST RISK FROM FIRE.AND WHEREAS HOME FIRES KILL MORE THAN 2,700 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
IN 2022, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION, AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES RESPONDED TO 360,000 HOME FIRES.
AND WHEREAS ROUGHLY THREE OUTTA FIVE FIRE DESKS HAPPENED IN HOMES WITH EITHER NO SMOKE ALARMS OR WITH NO WORKING SMOKE ALARMS. AND WHEREAS WORKING SMOKE ALARMS CUT THE RISK OF DYING IN REPORTED HOME FIRES ALMOST IN HALF.
AND WHEREAS SMOKE ALARMS SEND SMOKE WELL BEFORE YOU CAN ALERTING YOU TO DANGER AN EVENT OF FIRE IN WHICH YOU MAY HAVE AS LITTLE AS TWO MINUTES TO ESCAPE SAFELY.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS SHOULD INSTALL SMOKE ALARMS IN EVERY SLEEPING ROOM OUTSIDE EACH SEPARATE SLEEPING AREA AND ON EVERY LEVEL OF THE HOME.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS WILL MAKE SURE THEIR SMOKE ALARMS MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH SENSORY OR PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS SHOULD TEST SMOKE ALARMS AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PLANNED AND PRACTICE A HOME FIRE ESCAPE PLAN ARE MORE PREPARED AND WILL THEREFORE BE MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE A FIRE.
AND WHEREAS CHURCH FIRE RESCUE IS DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE OCCURRENCE OF HOME FIRES AND HOME FIRE INJURIES THROUGH PREVENTION AND PROTECTION EDUCATION, AND WHEREAS RESIDENTIAL RESPONSIVE TO PUBLIC MEASURES AND ARE ABLE TO TAKE PERSONAL STEPS TO INCREASE THEIR SAFETY FROM FIRE, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR HOMES.
AND WHEREAS THE 2024 FIRE PREVENTION WEEK THEME, SMOKE ALARMS MAKE THEM WORK FOR YOU, SERVES TO REMIND US OF THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING WORKING SMOKE ALARMS IN THE HOME.
NOW THEREFORE, RALPH GUTIERREZ MAYOR, THE CITY OF SHIRTS, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 6TH THROUGH 12TH 2024 AS FIRE PREVENTION WEEK THROUGHOUT THIS CITY.
AND HE URGES ALL THE PEOPLE AS SHIRTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR HOMES HAVE WORKING SMOKE ALARMS AND TO SUPPORT AND TO SUPPORT THE MANY PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES AND EFFORTS OF SHIRTS, FIRE RESCUE, AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES TEAM.
I THINK EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY WELL SAID IN THAT STATEMENT.
ALL I CAN SAY IS OVER THIS MONTH OR ANY MONTH, UH, NOT JUST A WEEK, BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MAKE SURE TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
NOTHING CAN HELP YOU BETTER THAN A SMOKE DETECTOR.
AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THE GRAVE OUTCOME THAT CAN COME WITH IT IS NOT WHAT WE ASPIRE TO DO.
UM, OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM THE SMOKE DETECTORS.
AND, UH, WHILE I HOPE NONE OF YOU EVER HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU GET HOME, YOU CHECK YOURS.
ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU HAVE GAS IN YOUR HOME, CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS ARE WONDERFUL AS WELL.
[ National I.T. Professionals Day-September 17, 2024 (S.Williams/D.HardinTrussel/J.Bluebird) presented by Councilmember Allison Heyward]
NEXT PROCLAMATION IS, UH, NATIONAL IT PROFESSIONALS DAY.THAT'S, UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024.
AND THAT PROCLAMATION WILL BE READ BY COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON HAYWARD FOR A MINUTE.
THERE I WAS LIKE, THE WAY Y'ALL WERE PILING OUTTA THAT ROOM, I'M LIKE, HMM, IS THIS I ROBOTS OR SOMETHING?
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO, UH, READ A PROCLAMATION ON NATIONAL IT PROFESSIONALS DAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024, WHEREAS WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL IT PROFESSIONAL DAY ON THE THIRD TUESDAY OF EVERY SEPTEMBER ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024 THIS YEAR TO RECOGNIZE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS, NETWORK ENGINEERS, SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS, DATABASE ADMINS, AND MANY MORE TYPES OF IT PROFESSIONALS THAT MAKE SURE OUR COMPUTERS SYSTEMS RUN SMOOTHLY.
WHEREAS IT IS RECOGNIZED AS A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF MODERN SOCIETY AND IS DEFINED AS THE USE OF COMPUTERS, APPLICATIONS, STORAGE, NETWORKING AND OTHER SYSTEMS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROCESSES TO CREATE PROCESS STORAGE, SECURE AND EXCHANGE ALL FORMS OF ELECTRONIC DATA.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH, THE IT DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF 12 EMPLOYEES WHO BRING TO THE CITY A
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COMBINED EXPERIENCE OF MORE THAN 190 YEARS.Y'ALL ARE OLD IN TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY, THE DIRECTOR 38 YEARS, THE COMPUTER SYSTEM COORDINATOR, 27 YEARS SENIOR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR, 11 YEARS PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM COORDINATOR, 29 YEARS GIS ADMINISTRATOR, 28 YEARS GIS SPECIALIST, 27 YEARS, THREE IT SUPPORT SPECIALIST WITH A COMBINED OF 20 YEARS AND AN ADMIN ASSISTANT WITH 16 YEARS EXPERIENCE.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH'S IT DEPARTMENT OVERSEES HUNDREDS OF SOFTWARE PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY WITH THE GOAL OF ENSURING SMOOTH, EFFICIENT, AROUND THE CLOCK OPERATIONS FOR ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING OUR CITY COUNCIL, SENIOR MANAGEMENT, FINANCE, ALL PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES, THE LIBRARY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, AND ET CETERA.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH'S IT DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITIES ALSO INCLUDE PROVIDING 24 7 SUPPORT FOR MORE THAN 3000 DEVICES, INCLUDING TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, CELL PHONES, INTERNET FIREWALLS, SERVICE DESKTOPS, MOBILE COMPUTERS, CAMERA SYSTEMS, TABLETS, SWITCHES, ET CETERA, FOR BOTH OFFICE AND BOUND, OFFICE BOUND AND FIELD FOCUS PERSONNEL.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH'S IT DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY OVERSEES AND PARTICIPATES IN MORE THAN 25 ONGOING PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY, PROVIDING DIRECTION, COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN, MASTER COMMUNICATION PLAN, CITYWIDE TRAINING PROGRAM, AND A COUNCIL CHAMBER PROJECT.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH'S IT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON IDENTIFYING AND MEETING NEW CHALLENGES IN KEY AREAS SUCH AS CYBERSECURITY, STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR DATA MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY SHIFTING TECHNOLOGY TRENDS AND ET CETERA.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR RALPH GUTIERREZ, THE MAYOR OF CITY OF SHIRTZ, WE RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024 AS NATIONAL IT PROFESSIONALS DAY.
AND WE URGE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO APPRECIATE THE EXPERT TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE AND THE TALENT OF OUR IT THAT OUR IT TEAMS BRINGS TO THE CITY EVERY DAY.
THANK, I JUST WANNA SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM TO BE A PART OF THIS DEDICATED GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS.
IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THE CITY FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
[ National Finance and Accounting Appreciation Week-September 23-27, 2024 (S.Williams/S.Gonzalez/J.Walters) presented by Councilmember Tim Brown]
NEXT PROCLAMATION IS THE NATIONAL FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING, UH, APPRECIATION WEEK, SEPTEMBER 23RD THROUGH THE 27TH.IF I CAN HAVE THE FINANCE, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALS, PLEASE JOIN ME UP HERE AND COUNCIL MEMBER TIM BROWN WILL BE READING THE PROCLAMATION.
WELCOME, GOOD EVENING, UH, NATIONAL FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING APPRECIATION WEEK, SEPTEMBER 23RD THROUGH 27TH, 2024.
WHEREAS THE HISTORY OF FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING IS AN ESTABLISHED PRACTICE DATING BACK SEVERAL MILLENNIA.
AND WHEREAS RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS ORIGINATING FROM THE MESOPOTAMIAN REGION TRACED BACK AS FAR AS 5,000 BC REVEALED THE EMPLOYMENT OF ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS. FURTHER EVIDENCE OF THE PREVALENCE OF ACCOUNTING WOULD APPEAR FROM DISCOVERIES IN ANCIENT EGYPT AND BABYLONIA.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF A FINANCE DIRECTOR, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, SENIOR ACCOUNTANT, ACCOUNTANT, FINANCIAL ANALYST, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE COORDINATOR, AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WITH A COMBINED DEPARTMENT TOTAL OF OVER 90 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPERT KNOWLEDGE.
AND WHEREAS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY OF CHURCH'S BUDGET AND FOR FISCAL YEAR OF 2023 TO 2024, THE TOTAL BUDGET IS $118,829,544.
WHEREAS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT UPHOLDS A HIGH STANDARD OF ETHICS, PROFESSIONALISM, AND KNOWLEDGE BY MAINTAINING, ENHANCING THEIR SKILLS THROUGH CONTINUING PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION.
AND WHEREAS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ALWAYS PRACTICES GOOD FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND HAS BEEN AWARDED THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING BY THE GOVERNMENT
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FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.NOW, THEREFORE, RALPH GUTIERREZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SHIRTZ DOES HEREBY COMP PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 23 THROUGH 27TH, 2024, NATIONAL FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING APPRECIATION WEEK IN THE CITY OF SHIRTZ, AND ASKS THE CITIZENS TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP.
THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES THE CITY EVERY DAY.
I KNOW FINANCE IS USUALLY IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO DEAL WITH US, AND I APOLOGIZE IF THOSE INTERACTIONS AREN'T WHAT YOU NEED, BUT, UH, WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, BEING CALLED OUT, UM, EVERY SO OFTEN AND, AND IT FEELS GOOD TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY ANY WAY WE CAN.
AND, UM, ME AND MY TEAM, WE LIKE DOING WHAT WE DO AND WE LOVE BEING WITH THE CITY AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT WE GET FROM THE CITIZENS AND OTHER STAFF THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
[ H.R. Professionals Day-September 26, 2024 (S.Williams/S.Gonzalez/J.Kurz) presented by Councilmember Paul Macaluso]
THE HR PROFESSIONALS DAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2024.IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE THE HR PERSONNEL, PLEASE JOIN ME UP HERE.
AND THE PROCLAMATION WILL BE PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PAUL MACALUSO, NATIONAL HR PROFESSIONAL DAY SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2024, UH, FOR 2024.
THE THEMES ARE CHAMPIONING ETHICAL TECHNOLOGY AND AI INTEGRATION REDEFINED FUTURE WORKPLACES, EXCELLENCE IN PEOPLE LEADERSHIP AND CONTINUOUS INVESTMENT AND SKILLS AND EDUCATION.
WHEREAS HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONAL DAY IS CELEBRATED EVERY SEPTEMBER 26TH IN THE DESIGN TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THOSE WORKING IN HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENTS EVERYWHERE.
AND WHEREAS GOVERNOR GENERAL, SIR PATRICK ALLEN FIRST REFERENCED HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONAL DAY BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2013.
HE CREATED THIS DAY TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONALS WHO PLAY AN INTEGRAL ROLE IN ENSURING THE SUCCESS OF ORGANIZATIONS BY NURTURING AND DEVELOPING HUMAN CAPITAL.
AND WHEREAS IN THE CITY OF SHIRTZ, THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF A DIRECTOR OF HR AND PURCHASING A HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER, A SENIOR HR GENERALIST, AND A HR GENERALIST, AND A HUMAN RESOURCES ASSISTANT WHO HAVE A COMBINED TOTAL OF OVER 62 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONALS CARRY OUT MULTIPLE TASKS IN AN ORGANIZATION, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO BUILD, MAINTAIN, GENERATE, AND CONTROL COMPANY POLICIES TO ENSURE IT BENEFITS BOTH THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE COUNTRY COUNTRY'S LABOR LAWS AND BEST PRACTICES.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF SHIRTS, HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONALS OVERSEE THE STAFF APPRECIATION GROUP, HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAM, CITY AND DEPARTMENT-WIDE TRAINING INITIATIVES, NEW RECRUIT INITIATIVES, FACEBOOK AND LINKEDIN PROVIDES ONBOARD ORIENTATION BENEFITS, RETIREMENTS, PAYROLL, LUNCH, WEBINARS, AND EMPLOYER RELATIONS FOR THE 461 PLUS EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR THE CITY.
AND WHEREAS HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL DAY IS ALL ABOUT THINKING AND APPRECIATING THE HR PROFESSIONALS WHO HANDLE THE MOST DIFFICULT OF SITUATIONS, INCLUDING STAFF NEGOTIATING, CORPORATE LIAISON AND LEGISLATION INTERPRETING.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT RALPH GUTIERREZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SHERTZ RECOGNIZE HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL DAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2024, AND THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
AND I URGE ALL CITIZENS TO THANK AND APPRECIATE THE BENEFICIAL SERVICES, THE CITY OF SHERTZ HUMAN RESOURCE PROFESSIONALS PROVIDE TO THE EMPLOYEES AND COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU MAYOR, APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION.
WE'RE A SMALL TEAM, MANY OF WHOM COULDN'T JOIN US TONIGHT, BUT I DO HAVE YOLANDA VALDEZ WITH ME.
UM, SHE'S ONE OF OUR HR GENERALISTS.
SHE, UH, BRINGS SO MUCH TO OUR TEAM.
SHE RECENTLY GOT HER, UM, NATIONAL HR CERTIFICATION, SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, ADDS A LOT OF VALUE THERE.
HR IS NOT ALWAYS A GLAMOROUS JOB, BUT I'M CONVINCED THAT IT'S THE BEST JOB.
WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH EMPLOYEES FROM ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, GET TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, UM, PROVIDE SUPPORT AND, AND BE AN ADVOCATE.
SO, UM, VERY THANKFUL TO, FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO.
UH, WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF EMPLOYEES, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION.
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WE WILL MOVE ON[ City Events and Announcements Announcements of upcoming City Events (B. James/S. Gonzalez) Announcements and recognitions by the City Manager (S. Williams) Announcements and recognitions by the Mayor (R. Gutierrez)]
TO CITY EVENTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS.UM, THERE'S QUITE A FEW ON HERE, SO BEAR WITH ME ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST IS GONNA BE THE COMMUNITY CAR SEAT CHECK FROM NINE TO 11:00 AM THIS WILL BE AT KAMAL CREEK ELEMENTARY, LOCATED AT 2 3 3 BERITA ROAD IN SHIRTZ ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND WILL BE OWL PROW AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK, AND THAT IS IN THE EVENING FROM EIGHT 30 TO NINE 30.
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH, UM, WILL BE THE FIRST DAY OF THE SKYLIGHT BALLOON FEST THAT THE CHAMBER PUTS ON, UM, FROM FIVE TO 9:00 PM AT RIVER CITY COMMUNITY CHURCH.
UM, THAT'S AT 1 6 7 6 5 LOOKOUT ROAD IN SELMA SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH WILL BE DAY TWO FOR THE SKYLIGHT BALLOON FEST, LOCATED AT THE SAME PLACE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BEGINNING AT 6:00 PM SATURDAY, OCTOBER 12TH IS THE NATURE DISCOVERY SERIES.
UM, DISCOVER UNBELIEVABLE BATS AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK FROM NINE 30 TO 1130.
A NOTE HERE THAT CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 14TH FOR COLUMBUS DAY, AND THEN WE'LL BE BE BACK HERE FOR OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH AT 6:00 PM THANK YOU.
NEXT ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR.
UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO PARTICIPATE IN A PANEL PUT ON BY THE SAN ANTONIO BUSINESS JOURNAL, AS WELL AS THE NEW BRAUNFELS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, COMMERCE IN NEW BRAUNFELS WITH FIVE OTHER CITY MANAGERS FROM UP AND DOWN THE 35 CORRIDOR.
AND IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS GOING ON.
WE LIVE IN A DYNAMIC AREA AND IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT IS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY THE MAYOR.
I DO HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, THANK YOU CHIEF ROGERS AND THE EMS CREW THAT RESPONDED TO MY EMERGENCY TWO WEEKS AGO.
UH, THE SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH.
IT'LL BE HERE AT THIS, UH, CHAMBER.
UH, IT IS A, IT IS TO ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL THE VACANCY FOR PLACE FOUR, THE FILING DATES, THE END DATES, THE BALLOT DRAWING, AND THE ELECTION DATE WILL ALL BE ANNOUNCED DURING THE SEPTEMBER 24TH SESSION.
[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]
WE HAVE THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE.THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH PERSON IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
NOW WE ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 22 IS SCHEDULED TODAY.
YOU MAY SPEAK DURING THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE, OR YOU MAY HOLD OFF AND WAIT TILL THE PUBLIC HEARING, OR YOU MAY SPEAK AT BOTH.
IF YOU DID SIGN UP FOR NUMBER 22, THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU, IF YOU JUST LET US KNOW, YOU'LL SPEAK AT, UH, DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.
WITH THAT MAYORAL TEMPT, PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, SANDRA OTT.
I'M AT 2 3 0 5 OTT HILL, OR THEY MIGHT HAVE IT AT 1 8 7 8 0 IH 35.
MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS, ADAM AND ANNA HUBERTUS PURCHASED OVER 400 ACRES IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS WHERE MY FAMILY LIVES ON THE REMAINING 35 ACRES.
HUBERTUS ROAD IS NAMED AFTER MY FAMILY'S ANCESTORS.
THE HOUSE YOU WOULD BE DEMOLISHING FOR APARTMENTS HAS A LOT OF HISTORICAL VALUE.
ALL OF ADAM HUBERTUS CHILDREN RECEIVE LAND FROM HIM.
MY GRANDMOTHER, MARY HUBERTUS, OUGHT PASSED THE LAND TO MY FATHER, EL GENOT, WHO GAVE THE LAND TO HIS CHILDREN, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF DENTE HILL.
MY FATHER WOULD NEVER HAVE SOLD THE LAND TO DESTROY OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
HE VALUED FAMILY MORE THAN MONEY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE SELLING THIS, SOMEONE SELLING THIS LAND TO SOMEONE OUT OF NEW YORK WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EVEN SEEN THIS LAND AND HAS NO IDEA OF THE HISTORICAL
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VALUE.THIS ZONING SHOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL THE WATER SHORTAGE IS RESOLVED.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT 900 APARTMENTS WOULD NEED.
THE OTHER MAJOR ISSUE IS BUILDING MORE APARTMENTS IN AN AREA WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE TRAFFIC LEAVING AND RETURNING TO SHIRTS WITH UP TO AN HOUR AND A HALF WAIT, AND THAT CAN HAPPEN QUITE A FEW DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK.
I WENT TO A TDOT MEETING IN APRIL AND THEY SAID THAT IH 35 WILL NOT BE EXPANDED FOR EIGHT TO 10 YEARS AS THE CITY OF SHIRTZ DONE ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES TO ASSESS HOW 900 DEPARTMENTS WILL AFFECT THE TRAFFIC.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT THE ZONING CARE ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY AND NOT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF SHIRTZ WHO WILL BE IMPACTED.
THANK YOU ADAM SHARP, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, SO, UH, Y'ALL ARE GONNA HEAR A LOT OF STUFF FROM, FROM US, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BY POSITION, UH, THIS LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, Y'ALL ASK, IS THERE A DEED? IS THERE A REGULATION ON THIS ROAD TO, TO, IN ORDER TO DO THAT? AND I PROVIDED Y'ALL WITH THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I ASK THAT YOU, YOU LISTEN TO IT, YOU HEAR IT, YOU READ IT, YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I, AND I HOPE THE CITIZENS HERE REALIZE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT A LOW INCOME HOUSING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT THERE, UH, BETWEEN 35 AND, AND, UH, OLD WIENSTEIN ROAD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO, TO TRY TO GET Y'ALL TO VOTE.
UM, AGAIN, PLEASE REALIZE WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE, THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS WALKABLE BUSINESSES.
IF WE'RE GONNA PUT LOW INCOME HOUSING IN THIS AREA, WHO'S GONNA WANNA WALK BY THAT? RIGHT? WHO'S GONNA GO IN THAT AREA? WHAT BUSINESSES ARE GONNA BE ATTRACTED TO THAT? UM, AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE NO.
UM, I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THE FACTS OF THIS PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT'S NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE UDC CODES THAT YOU UPHOLD.
SO I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING YOU ALREADY KNOW.
PLEASE CONSIDER THAT ALL SEEN THE I 35 AXIS IS DEEDED PERPETUAL, CANNOT BE ALTERED OR USED BY THE PUBLIC WITHOUT SIGNATURES FROM OWNERS OF ALL THREE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT MAKE UP AUT HILL, NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, THE ODDS, THE DENS, BURGS THE SHARPS, THE APPLICANT CLAIMS THAT THE ROAD WILL NOT BE USED.
BUT WHY DID THEY NOT REMOVE IT FROM THE REZONING REQUESTS LIKE THEY DID AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING? THEY PLAN TO USE THIS DRIVEWAY MAKING CONDITIONS UNSAFE AND REMOVING OUR ONLY ACCESS TO OUR HOMES.
THE ZONING CHANGE DOES NOT PROMOTE AN ORDERLY, EFFICIENT, OR HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY UNTIL NEW ROADS ARE BUILT.
THIS WOULD PUT A STRAIN ON OLD STEIN ROAD AND HAVE DANGEROUS ACCESS ON DEN KNOT HILL, WHICH ONLY ALLOWS ONE CAR WIDE.
ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN OPPOSITION.
THE ONLY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS IN SUPPORT ARE THE ONES WHO FINANCIALLY BENEFIT FROM REZONING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND LOOK FOR MORE SUITABLE LOCATIONS FOR APARTMENT WITH A, WITH ACTUAL ACCESS AND CAPABILITIES TO SUPPORT THIS INFLUX OF PEOPLE AND TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT PLANNING AND ZONING'S JOB SHOULD BE TO THOROUGHLY PLAN AND ASSESS HOW THIS WOULD WORK, NOT JUST PASS ONTO THE NEXT STEP OR DEPARTMENT.
MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS THE CITY SO INSISTENT ON APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON EVERY PIECE OF LAND? WHY NOT AFFORDABLE HOMES OR DUPLEXES? AND IF NOT, THEN WHY NOT PDD, WHICH HAS STRONG, STRONGER PROTECTIONS THAN R FOUR ZONING, LOW INCOME HOUSING AS THE FACE OF THE CITY IS NOT GONNA BRING IN THE GROWTH.
YOU DISCUSSED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, BEAUTIFICATION, WALKABLE, HIGH-END BUSINESSES.
WE JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER WHAT'S BEST FOR THE AREA.
THIS IS NOT JUST A RURAL PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S A TIGHT COMMUNITY OF FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS.
HOW MANY FIGHTS AGAINST A CAR, APARTMENT COMPLEXES UNTIL YOU SEE YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY YOU SPEAK FOR, PLEASE HEAVILY CONSIDER IF THIS IS THE BEST MOVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, MY NAME IS JIM DIK, 1 1 5 1 7 CYPRESS BARN IN THE WILLOW GROVE SUBDIVISION.
UH, ITEM AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 22 AS WELL.
AND SO AREN'T YOU THE LUCKY ONES? AND YOU ACTUALLY GET TO SEE ME FRIDAY AT OUR CHURCH DINNER AS WELL.
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SO YOU SHOULD BE FEELING REALLY LUCKY RIGHT NOW.RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT PERSONAL IMPACTS.
NOW I'M GONNA ASK MY FELLOW RESIDENTS FROM WILLOW GROVE TO STAND UP AND REMAIN STANDING.
I COME FROM THE COPS METRO ALLIANCE SCHOOL OF ORGANIZING.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THIS TO HAPPEN.
UH, THIS IS LIKE A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS OF GROUNDHOG DAY FOR ME.
AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY I GREW UP ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
OKAY? TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PART OF TOWN BEING CRAPPED ON, AND I'M NOT GONNA STAND BY AND LET THAT HAPPEN WITH THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR AN AREA, ESPECIALLY BUDDING, RIGHT UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THERE ARE 32 STATIONS, GAS STATIONS IN THE CITY OF SHEZ FOR A CITY OF 40,000.
THAT'S PRETTY HIGH SATURATION WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I KNOW I'M SPEAKING FOR MY NEIGHBORS, THIS IS NOT WANTED, OKAY? WE PERSONALLY, I'M GETTING READY TO DROP A LOT OF MONEY INTO MY HOUSE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE MY PROPERTY VALUES AFFECTED BY A DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THIS, THAT AGAIN, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, NOT NECESSARY, AND NOT WANTED.
OKAY? ONLY SIX OF THE 32 GAS STATION IN SHIRTS, BUT UP TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA LIKE THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION.
AND THOSE SIX ARE IN LONG ESTABLISHED PARTS OF SHIRTS, WHICH I KNOW NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING.
THAT WAS SHORTSIGHTEDNESS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S PART AT THAT TIME.
DON'T REPEAT THAT SHORTSIGHTEDNESS ON YOUR PART.
COUNCIL MEMBERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD, 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 HERE BEFORE YOU AGAIN THIS EVENING.
ON ITEM NUMBER 18, JUST GOING TO REITERATE SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS, UH, THAT I MADE, UH, LAST TIME, UH, ON THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE APARTMENTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HOUSING IS NEEDED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THIS IS A, A GOOD PIECE OF LAND FOR THAT.
HOWEVER, SOME OF THE LAND USE ARGUMENTS MADE AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ARE, I WOULD ARGUE INCORRECT.
YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY, UH, LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS TRACT IS ADJACENT TO I 35.
WELL, IN FACT, ONLY 12 FEET OF THIS TRACT IS ADJACENT TO I 35.
UM, THE APARTMENTS WILL GO UNCHECKED AND UP TO ABOUT 930 UNITS.
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED UNDER THIS R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, WE WOULD PREFER THAT A PDD WOULD BE BROUGHT BECAUSE A SITE PLAN IS APPROVED.
WE COULD SEE WHERE THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE.
A MIXTURE OF TYPE OF HOUSING COULD GO IN AND WE WOULD SEE WHERE THE BUFFERS, THE DRIVEWAYS, AND ALL OF THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE.
UM, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT SPOKE AT THE LAST HEARING.
THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
THEY LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND ARE SET TO MAKE WELL OVER, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLARS AT, AT THE SALE OF THIS LAND.
MY CLIENT, SANDRA OTT, HER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE HERE BEFORE YOU ARE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS OF SHIRTS THAT LIVE HERE, THAT WORK HERE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY AND THEY ARE NOT SURE OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THEM IF THIS ZONING IS APPROVED TO THIS EVENING.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR DENIAL OF THE ZONING CASE THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU KYLE LUCAS, JUST A QUICK COUNT, UH, QUESTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE I BEGIN.
ARE YOU ABLE TO PLUG IN, UH, USB STICKS? NO, I'M NOT TO MAYBE PRIOR TO THE MEETING I WOULD NOT ALLOW IT.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S IN THERE.
UM, AM I ABLE TO PULL UP A YOUTUBE VIDEO THEN BY CHANCE? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
OKAY, I WILL HOLD OFF ON THAT THEN.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 9 PECAN BRANCH OFF OF 1518.
JUST AS A START OFF, UH, THE GAS STATION REQUEST TO BE BUILT THERE IS FAR TOO CLOSE TO OUR RESIDENCE.
AS MANY PEOPLE WILL STAY HERE.
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THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, OR BOTH US AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL IS WAY TOO CROWDED.UM, WE DO HAVE A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE AS WELL AS ON HERE, BUT I KNOW YOU CANNOT VERIFY.
UH, IT SHOWS A SELECT THREE MINUTES OUT OF A 35 MINUTE CLIP THAT WE HAVE RECORDED FOR THE SCHOOL TIME BETWEEN SEVEN AND SEVEN 40 IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE HAVE NO SHORTAGE OF 42 CARS THAT USE JUST THE ONE PARTICULAR ENTRANCE WHERE THIS GAS STATION IS GONNA BE AT TO TURN AROUND IN, UH, A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE THERE ARE NEAR COLLISIONS, ESPECIALLY AS CARS TRY TO CUT ACROSS, UH, RACE AGAINST TRUCKS BECAUSE TRUCKS THAT ARE STOPPED AT A LIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET ACROSS AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS WHO USE OUR ENTRANCE TO GO TO THE SHAFER ROAD LIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAYS FOR THEM TO CUT ACROSS.
THAT DOES NOT COUNT FOR SHAFER ROAD ITSELF AS WELL AS THE OTHER ENTRANCE, WHICH I'M SURE MORE PEOPLE USE TO TURN AROUND AS THEY GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
OUR MAIN ISSUE WITH THAT AREA IS THAT THEY ARE NOT GONNA DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AS PER THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING BEFORE THEY APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF THIS MEASURE, WHICH IS KINDA LIKE LETTING THE CLOSING THE BARN DOORS BEFORE THE HORSES, UH, HAVE ALREADY LEFT.
SO WE DO NOT NEED THIS THERE AT LEAST BEFORE A TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE, AND WE DON'T WANT IT THERE AS ANY OF THE RESIDENTS HERE WILL SAY WE PREFER THAT DEVELOPMENT BE A LITTLE MORE PARTICULAR TO THE WALKABLE AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EXPANSION OF 1518 AND THE INCLUSION OF SIDEWALKS AND MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE TO INCLUDE A CAFE OR FOOD EATERY IN THAT AREA.
IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR TRAFFIC AS WELL AS BUSINESS IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT COMPETING EARLY IN THE MORNING.
UH, I'M SORRY IT HAD THE WHOLE THREE MINUTES PLANNED OUT FOR THAT VIDEO AND NOW IT'S ALL GONE
I WILL END WITH THIS NOTE FOR NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU ALL DIS UH, DISAPPROVE THIS MEASURE.
IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE IDEAL PLAN FOR EXPANSION AS WELL AS THE OVERALL SIZE OF THAT STRIP OF PLANNED.
MS. LUCAS, BEFORE YOU START, IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY HANDOUTS THAT YOU, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL, I NEED 15 COPIES.
IF YOU, YOU PLAN TO HAVE A HANDOUT, I NEED THEM NOW AND NOT DISTRIBUTE IT RIGHT BEFORE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS HANDOUTS? OKAY, I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
UM, I DID BRING EIGHT COPIES, ONE FOR EACH OF THE, UM, MEMBERS.
I DO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL COPY IF ANYBODY UP THERE DID NOT RECEIVE ONE.
KYLE, CAN YOU BRING, I DON'T WANNA GIVE HIM MY ORIGINAL.
MY SON WILL BRING YOU UP A COPY.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 1 1 0 4 0 9 PECAN BRANCH.
I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE PA WHO LIVES IN THE VILLAGE GROVE ESTATE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED GAS STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE DEVELOPMENT AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THE REASONS I'M GONNA DISCUSS ARE THE WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE HAZARDS IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PETITION FROM THE COMMUNITY.
A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WENT DOOR TO DOOR.
WE WERE ABLE TO REACH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN 236 OF THE 302 HOMES, THAT'S 70% OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE PETITION HAS 278 SIGNATURES FROM 213 INDIVIDUAL HOMES WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE PLACEMENT OF THIS GAS STATION.
THAT'S 90% OF THOSE WHO WERE REACHED.
TO BE FAIR, THERE WERE 7% OF THE HOMES THAT WERE AMBIVALENT OR FOR IT, AND A PERCENTAGE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE MARKET AND VACANT.
SO THEM ATHLETES, IT'S 70% OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY DO NOT WANT IT.
THE REAL REASON THIS IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS THAT IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE HAZARD ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, NAMELY THE GAS PUMPS AND THE HEALTH HAZARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
THE FIRST POINT UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT IS THE CITY'S DESIRE TO PROMOTE SAFE, ORDERLY, EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT.
THE RISK OF UNDERGROUND TANKS LEAKING IS REAL.
THE RISK TO THE HEALTH OF THE KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL 328 FEET AWAY IS REAL.
THE RISK OF INCREASED HEALTH HAZARDS, CANCERS, ANEMIAS, AND INFECTIONS, ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE GAS STATION IS REAL.
ONCE THE TANKS GO IN THE GROUND, WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE STUCK WITH THAT HAZARD.
THE RELEASE OF BENZENE FROM GAS STATIONS OCCURS FROM VENT PUMPS, BULK REFUELING, VAPOR EMISSIONS, VAPOR EMISSIONS WHILE REFUELING AND FUELING MICRO SPILL EVAPORATION AND RUNOFF.
MOST OF US GET EXPOSED WHEN WE FILL OUR TANKS, HOWEVER, THOSE CLOSEST TO THE GAS STATIONS DO NOT GET TO DRIVE AWAY.
UH, 2019 STUDY OF US GAS STATIONS FOUND THAT BENZENE EMISSIONS FROM UNDERGROUND GASOLINE STORAGE TANK VENTS WERE SUFFICIENTLY HIGH ENOUGH TO CONSTITUTE A HEALTH CONCERN AT A DISTANCE OF AT LEAST 524 FEET.
PRIOR TO THE 219 STUDY, IT WAS THOUGHT THAT MOST OF THE BENZENE WAS RELEASED AT THE PUMP DURING FUELING.
INSTEAD, THE 2019 STUDY DOCUMENTED THAT BENZENE RELEASES FROM UNDERGROUND FUEL STORAGE TANKS, VENTS WERE 10 TIMES HIGHER THAN RELEASES AT GAS STATION PUMP DISPENSERS.
OF THE 32 GAS STATIONS AND SHIRTS, 56% OF THEM 18 ARE LOCATED MORE THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION DISAPPROVING.
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THIS REQUEST WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE PRECEDENT ALREADY SET BY MORE THAN HALF THE GAS STATIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.AS MY NEIGHBOR POINTED OUT, ONLY SIX OR 19% OF THE EXISTING 32 STATIONS ABUT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS THE PLANNED GAS STATION WOULD I KNOW LAST TIME THIS CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL SIX MONTHS AGO, MAYOR GUTIERREZ MADE A POINT OF SAYING THE SAME THING WAS DONE IN FRONT OF SAMUEL CLEMENS AND THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
WE DO NOT WANT THE GAS STATION.
WE KNOW DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR.
WE'RE ASKING YOU PLEASE NOT TO PUT A GAS STATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KEITH DENSBERGER.
I CURRENTLY LIVE IN YORKTOWN, TEXAS AT 3 0 5 EAST FOURTH STREET.
I FORMERLY LIVED AT 2303 DAN HILL.
UH, MY FAMILY MOVED HERE TO CHURCH IN 1975.
LADY, THE LADY EARLIER SAID THAT NONE OF US LIVE IN CHURCH.
UH, WE, WE LIVE A, A LIFETIME HERE.
I LIVED HERE UNTIL APRIL A YEAR AGO.
UH, AND THE ONLY REASON I MOVED TO YORKTOWN WAS BECAUSE MY FATHER HAD A CONTRACT ON THIS LAND.
HE HAD THIS CONTRACT AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY HE PASSED AWAY.
HE PUT IT IN HIS WILL THAT THEY WANTED THE CONTRACT HONORED AND HE WANTED THE LAND SOLD.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M NOT A CHURCH RESIDENT ANYMORE.
UH, ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, Y'ALL VOTED BY A SUPER MAJORITY TO APPROVE THE REZONING ON THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY AND I'M ASKING YOU TO AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE REZONING.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 0 1 PECAN BRANCH.
UM, I'M UP HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT UM, NUMBER 22, THE GAS STATION.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH RETIRED MILITARY.
WE MOVED HERE TO SHIRTS, BOUGHT THAT HOME THINKING THAT WAS, IT WAS GONNA BE OUR FOREVER HOME.
UM, THE THING THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THE COMMUNITY NEED.
UM, THERE IS NO NEED FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE A GAS STATION LOOKING AT GOOGLE, GOOGLE MAPS, THERE ARE 23 GAS STATIONS THAT ARE LESS THAN THREE MILES AWAY FROM THIS ADDRESS.
AND THERE ARE 67 GAS STATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THIS ADDRESS.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE GAS STATION THAT'S ON BASE.
SO LET'S ADDRESS THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
THERE'S A DOLLAR STORE ACROSS THE STREET.
IF WE NEED ANY LAST MINUTE ITEMS, WE CAN GET IT FROM THE DOLLAR STORE.
THE DOLLAR STORE IS OPEN UNTIL 10:00 PM WE DO NOT NEED A CONVENIENCE STORE EITHER.
EITHER THE HAZARDS FROM THE GAS PUMPS FAR OUTWEIGH ANY BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STREET.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE NO FOR NUMBER 22, THE GAS STATION.
AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL NOT TO PASS THIS NUMBER 18 TO R FOUR REZONING.
UH, THAT ROAD IS PRIVATE AND HAS A PERMANENT AND PERPETUAL AGREEMENT, NO MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
AND THEY WANT TO OPEN IT UP, MAKE A THOROUGHFARE OUT OF IT WHERE WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR OUR INGRESS AND EGRESS.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL, PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK.
THANK YOU BRENDA OT, BRENDA OTT AND I LIVE AT 2217 DAN DASH APPEAL.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU
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FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU BEING HERE.SO AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, THERE'S DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THIS ROAD.
IT SAYS IT, IT EASEMENT FOR THE LANDOWNERS UP THERE.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT THAT ROAD WILL NOT BE MODIFIED OR CHANGED IN ANY MANNER.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS REZONINGS NOT ABOUT HOW THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE USED.
WE KEEP SAYING THAT IT'S, THAT IS FOR THE CITY TO DECIDE THAT WHEN THE PLAING AND WHATEVER COMES AFTER THIS MEETING, WELL, WHAT I THINK IS IT'S PASSING THE BUCK.
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA PUT THE BURDEN ON THESE LAND OWNERS TO HAVE TO GO TO CIVIL COURT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I KEEP HEARING.
IT'S GONNA BE A CIVIL MATTER THAT IS GONNA FALL ON ALL THE LANDOWNERS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OUR ROAD ANYMORE.
AND I KNOW THE LAWYER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CAME UP HERE AND SAID, WE HAVE NO PLANS TO USE THE ROAD.
WELL IF YOU REZONE IT AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE CITY, THERE'S NO GUARANTEES THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE THIS ROAD IN SOME MANNER.
BUT IT SAYS IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IT CANNOT BE MODIFIED OR CHANGED.
AND I THINK COUNSEL SHOULD RESPECT THAT AND NOT PASS THE BUCK TO THE LANDOWNERS TO HAVE TO GO TO CIVIL COURT TO FIGHT THIS.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS TAMMY GLASGOW.
I'M COMING TODAY BEFORE YOU FOR UH, ITEM NUMBER 22.
WE COME COLLECTIVELY BEFORE UNITED POST TO BUSINESSES OR ECONOMIC GROWTH, BUT THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT IS ASKING TO BE BUILT IN FRONT OF OUR SUBDIVISION.
TO PARAPHRASE COMMISSIONER HECTOR FROM THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN TO LOOK AS A RESIDENT OF WILLOW GROVE.
SINCE 2016, I AM DEEPLY INVESTED IN WHAT IS NEAR AND AROUND WHERE I RESIDE AND HOW MY COMMUNITY LOOKS.
A GAS STATION CAN IMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS DUE TO LIGHT TRESPASS, INCREASED FIRE EXPLOSION, DANGER NOISE, LOSS OF PROPERTY VALUE, GROUNDWATER OR AQUATIC RESOURCE IMPACTS CAUSE TRAFFIC ISSUES ATTRACT TRANSIENTS TO THE AREA ARE ENCOURAGED.
LORDING A STUDY BY STEPHEN MCCORD IN 2022 STATES THAT HOMES NEAR GAS STATIONS SOLD FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN THOSE AT LEAST A MILE AWAY IN RELATION TO CRIME.
CONVENIENCE STORE HOLDUPS ACCOUNT ACCOUNTED FOR 3% OF VIOLENT CRIMES OVERALL IN 2020 AND THE GAS STATIONS ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT 2%.
ACCORDING TO THE NEW STATISTICS RELEASED BY THE FBI OF A TOTAL OF 675,000 VIOLENT CRIMES REPRESENTED.
20,000 INCIDENTS OCCURRED AT C STORES AND OVER 11,000 OCCURRED AT GAS STATIONS.
THESE STATISTICS MAKE C STORES AND GAS STATIONS THE FOURTH AND SEVENTH MOST LARGEST COMMON LOCATION FOR VIOLENT CRIME RESPECTIVELY.
OF THE 10,000 VIOLENT CRIMES IN THE REPORT, 2% OF THE TOTAL CRIMES AT CONVENIENCE STORES AND 1% OF THE TOTAL CRIMES AT GAS STATIONS WERE HOMICIDES.
THE FBI REPORTED OVER 137 TOTAL ROBBERIES WITH 10% AT C STORES AND 5% AT GAS STATIONS.
CONVENIENCE STORE EMPLOYEES SUFFER FROM HIGH RATES OF WORKPLACE HOMICIDE SECOND ONLY TO TAXI DE CAB DRIVERS.
LIVING WITHIN LIVING WITHIN PROXIMITY OF A GAS STATION MAY POSE HEALTH RISKS INCLUDING RESPIRATORY ISSUES AND INCREASED STRESS LEVELS.
AS A VETERAN WHO HAS DEPLOYED AND BEEN EXPOSED TO CHEMICALS, I RATHER MY FAMILY NEIGHBORS ROSE GARDEN ELEMENTARY AND EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS OR MYSELF NOT BE EXPOSED TO ANY ADDITIONAL UNNECESSARY AND NEEDLESS CHEMICAL AND HAZARDS.
CURRENT DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES CDC, THE AGENCY FOR TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND THE EPA RECOMMENDATIONS AND RECENT SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEW LITERATURE ARE ALL CONSISTENT IN THIS CONCLUSION.
ELEVATED BENZENE EXPOSURE AMONG HUMANS, INCLUDING THOSE IN CLO CLOSE PROXIMITY OF A GAS STATION OVER TIME CAN CAUSE CANCER.
ELEVATED LEVELS OF BENZENE EXPOSURE INCLUDE AIR EMISSIONS FROM GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS, GASOLINE STORAGE, OPERATIONS, EXHAUST AND EVAPORATION FROM GASOLINE, OR EXCUSE ME, FROM, UM, SERVICE STATIONS AND MOTOR VEHICLE EXHAUST BURNING OIL AND BENZENE WASTE.
THE BENZENE EXPOSURE FROM THESE OPERATIONS WOULD TAKE PLACE AT A GAS STATION, PRODUCE ELEVATED AND PROLONGED LEVEL HARMFUL TO HUMANS.
THE ELEVATED AND PROLONGED LEVELS EMITTED FROM A GAS STATION ARE SIGNIFICANT AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO HUMANS AND KERNEL CURRENT FEDERAL ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDATIONS CLEARLY ADVISE FAMILIES NOT TO PLAY IN THEIR FUELING STATIONS.
THE EPA RECOMMENDS GAS STATIONS BE AT A MINIMUM OF A THOUSAND FEET FROM SCHOOLS TO BE CONSIDERED SAFE.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT ECONOMIC GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WANNA SEE SHIRTS THRIVE.
BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPOSED SIDE IN QUESTION IS ZONES FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
HOWEVER, WE MUST, WE MUST BE MINDFUL IN DECIDING WHAT BUSINESS WE PUT NEAR OUR HOMES AND SCHOOLS.
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GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.MY NAME IS ALEX SMITH AND I RESIDE AT 11 7 0 8 CYPRESS BARN IN WILLOW GROVE.
MY HOME LIES WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED GAS STATION.
I LAST ADDRESSED YOU NINE MONTHS AGO WHEN THIS BODY TOOK UP THIS ISSUE AND DENIED THE PERMIT FOR THIS SAME GAS STATION.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR MORAL COURAGE IN VOTING DOWN THAT MEASURE AND PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEN.
AND IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN TIFFANY GIBSON, WHO WAS SWORN IN LAST DECEMBER AND WHOSE ADVOCACY IN DENYING THE PERMIT WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SAFEGUARDING OUR HOMES AND THE HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR COMMUNITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, HEALTH ISSUES HAVE CURTAILED HER SERVICE TO OUR CITY, NOT EVEN ONE YEAR INTO HER THREE YEAR TERM.
YOU HONOR HER SERVICE BY RESPECTING HER JUDGMENT IN THIS MATTER AS WELL AS RESPECTED THO RESPECTING THOSE WHO VOTED HER INTO OFFICE TONIGHT AGAIN, YOU WILL HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN OPPOSITION TO GRANTING THIS PERMIT.
WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY OF FIRST RESPONDERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, OF CIVIL SERVANTS.
WE HAVE AND CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE DEEP POCKETS OF THIS LLC WHO CAN AFFORD LEAVING A COMMERCIAL LOT VACANT FOR NINE MONTHS AND WHO CAN TURN DOWN OFFERS FROM FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.
WE LOOK TO YOU INSTEAD AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO STAND UP FOR US.
MOST OF MY LIFE WAS SPENT SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.
AND LIKE SO MANY OF US IN WILLOW GROVE, WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING IN AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE COULD COUNT ON OUR LEADERSHIP TO HAVE OUR BACKS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT CONCERNED OUR SAFETY AND WELLBEING.
WE PERHAPS TOOK TOO MUCH FOR GRANTED THAT THIS WOULD BE THE CASE ACROSS THE BOARD IN CIVIL LIFE.
THE EVENTS OF THIS PAST FALL WITH THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION WOKE US UP TO THE REALIZATION THAT THESE ASSUMPTIONS MAY NOT HOLD.
WE LOOK TO YOU AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES, AS YOUR CONS, CONSTITUENTS.
WE LOOK TO YOU TO HAVE OUR BACKS.
302 HOUSEHOLDS NOW HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE VIEWED AS SQUEAKY WHEELS.
RATHER, WE WANT YOU TO SEE US AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE WANNA SEE YOU, WE WANT YOU TO SEE US AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CARRYING OUT A PLAN OF RESPONSIBLE CITY GROWTH THAT PROTECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS WHILE ENSURING ECONOMIC GROWTH.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR 32 GAS STATIONS ALREADY HAVE 500 FOOT FOOT SETBACKS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD IN QUESTION.
IN FACT, THERE'S NO POINT ON THAT ROAD ON THE 1518 STRETCH WHERE YOU'RE ANY MORE THAN TWO MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS AWAY FROM UNDER THE GAS STATION.
AND WITH 32 GAS STATIONS, A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE SAYS THAT COULD SUPPORT A COMMUNITY OF 144,000 AS IS UNFORTUNATELY.
UH, WELL, UH, PRIOR TO THIS COMMON COURTESY AND RESPECTING ONE'S NEIGHBORS WERE NORMS IN OUR CITY AND THEY WERE RESPECTED AND OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS BERTHA KUO AND I LIVE IN UH, 1 1 0 3 3 4 OUR WOODS, UH, IN THE WILLOW GROVE SUBDIVISION.
UM, I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE VETERANS AS AS, AS SOME OF MY UH, NEIGHBORS.
THEY ARE, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY BEFORE I RETIRED, I LOOKED A LOT AND I CHOSE THE WILLOW GROVE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE OF THE PRIVACY AND THE QUIET THAT IT PROVIDES.
IT'S A PLACE THAT I REALLY LOVE LIVING TOGETHER WITH MY TWO GIRLS.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THERE IS PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP, UH, THIS GAS STATION RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBOR OUTSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT AS ARE SOME OF MY RESIDENT.
MY, MY, MY, UH, NEIGHBORS HERE.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I WILL SPEAK TO, UH, SHARED SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS NUMBER THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT.
THE DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT PLANS DO NOT MEET THESE CRITERIA, UM, ACCORDING TO SHARED SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND SHOULD PRESERVE THE CHARACTER INTEGRITY OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS EITHER ON SITE OR WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO MITIGATE DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED ADVERSE IMPACTS.
IT DOES NOT, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT.
IN FACT, THE CHARACTER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS MOSTLY RURAL WITH
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ACCESS TO CONVENIENCES LESS THAN THREE MILES AWAY.IT'S LESS THAN HALF A MILE IF YOU COUNT THE DOLLAR STORE.
THERE ARE NO PLANS TO MITIGATE BENZENE IMPACTS THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.
BENZENE IMPACTS ARE AS FAR AS 525 FEET AS DISCUSSED IN THE TWO 2019 STUDY AND BENZENE RELEASES FROM THE PROPOSED GAS STATION WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE RE US THE RESIDENTS OF THE ADJOINING WILLOW GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE NO PLANS TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC EITHER.
IN FACT, WE ARE TOLD THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL AC OR OCCUR AFTER THE PLAN IS APPROVED.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS SHARED SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT NUMBER THREE, WHICH ASK FOR CERTAIN SPECIFICATIONS LIKE IT HAS TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE DEVELOPMENT GENERATED.
THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD REDUCE OR ELIMINATE ELIMINATE TRAFFIC ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
THE PROPOSED PLAN NOT ONLY USES OUR RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE, BUT ALSO USES SECONDARY ENTRANCE AND EXITS FOR US, FORCING US TO COMPETE WITH OTHERS FOR LA FOR THE LIGHT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN TO 1518 TOWARDS FM 78, BOTH INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY DRIVING FASTER, DRIVING FASTER THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THE LIGHT ON SHAEFER ROAD.
AND THIS WILL LIKELY INCREASE WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC.
IT CAUSES UNDUE STRESS ON US, WHICH, UM, WE ARE AGAINST AND WE ARE STRONGLY RECOMMENDING, UH, NON-APPROVAL, UH, IN REGARDS TO SHORT SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
REQUIREMENT NUMBER THREE, THE PROPOSED PART OF THIS REQUIREMENT.
IT PROMOTES HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS PROPOSAL OF THE GAS STATION DOES NOT.
IT IMPOSES SUBSTANTIAL, YOU MUCH THREAT TO THE, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
WALTER ALLEN, I'M, I'M RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
MY WIFE IS RETIRED FROM SCHOOL TEACHER FOR 32 YEARS.
WE BOUGHT A RETIREMENT HOME ON PECAN BRANCH.
CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? PARDON? NAME AND ADDRESS.
OH, MY NAME IS WALTER LAWRENCE ALLEN, 1 0 5 1 2 PECAN BRANCH.
AND ANY WEAPONS? UH, WE BOUGHT THIS RETIREMENT HOME AND I BACK FENCE 20 FEET FROM MY PATIO.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GAS STATION RIGHT THERE.
I ALSO DROVE AN 18 WHEELER FOR 27 YEARS.
THERE'S MORE TRASH FLYING AROUND THERE THAN YOU CAN SHAKE A STICK OUT.
ALSO, THERE'S A LOT OF FUMES IN CASE YOU DOESN'T FIGURED THAT OUT EITHER.
I'VE ALSO BEEN EXPOSED TO, I'VE HAD CANCER ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO PUT UP WITH THE CRAP, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GAS STATION BEHIND OUR HOUSE.
NOT ONLY ARE ALL THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN 15, 18 RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT A HOMESTEAD BEHIND THOSE THINGS.
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT BACK OVER THERE BEHIND THAT DOLLAR GENERAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PAY FOR A RETIREMENT HOME TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO ME.
ALL I CAN SAY THANK YOU SORO LOPEZ.
I THINK I'M PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT.
IS THERE A KORO HERE OR MS. LOPEZ? 1 1 5 2 9 CYPRUS BARN? NOPE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
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ASHLEY MOUN.ASHLEY FAIRMONT, 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
UH, I, I USUALLY WOULDN'T SPEAK ON A SECOND READING AND, AND I RESPECT THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY HAD A PUBLIC, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE A FEW COMMENTS SINCE THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE.
UM, ALSO, MR. JEFF DENSBERGER, WHO'S THE EXECUTOR OF HIS FATHER'S ESTATE, UM, DID SEND IN AN EMAIL.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL RECEIVED IT OR A LETTER, UM, BUT HE JUST HOPES THAT YOU ALL WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT HIS FATHER'S WISHES AND SUPPORT THE REZONING, UH, AND ULTIMATELY THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AGAIN, AS, AS WAS STATED TWO WEEKS AGO, WE BELIEVE THIS USE IS APPROPRIATE, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND ALSO CONSISTENT AND SUPPORTIVE WITH OTHER NEW USES THAT ARE COMING TO THE AREA.
UH, THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT NOT COMPLYING WITH THE UDC.
THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE UDC AND ALL CITY CODES.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES FROM THOSE.
UH, WATER WILL HAVE TO BE SUFFICIENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY STAFF AND ALL OF THEIR STANDARDS AND A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE DONE.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED LAST TIME, THERE WILL BE TWO ROADS CONSTRUCTED TO REACH THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE EXTENSION OF RIPS CHRYSLER WITH THE SUPPORT, UM, ULTIMATELY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN ALSO THE EXTENSION OF WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE 2252, UH, FROM OLD STEIN.
SO THERE WILL BE THOSE TWO ACCESS POINTS.
UH, THERE CONTINUE TO BE QUESTIONS ABOUT USING D KNOT HILL.
AS I STATED AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE IS NO INTENTION TO USE THAT ROAD.
UH, THERE IS A PRIVATE COVENANT AS YOU HEARD THIS EVENING.
UH, THAT DOES RESTRICT HOW THAT ROAD CAN BE CHANGED.
SO, UM, THOSE COVENANTS DO SAY THAT, THAT THE ROAD CANNOT BE CHANGED WITHOUT CONSENT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE USERS AND OWNERS OF THAT PIECE.
UM, OR YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO OWNERS, BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, HOW THAT ROAD CAN BE USED.
SO THERE IS NOT AN INTENT TO USE THAT.
UH, WE WILL WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DO THAT? I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ULTIMATELY DO YOU PROHIBIT THAT ACCESS.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE THE PRIVATE AGREEMENT, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH, WITH BRIAN AND SAM AND THAT GROUP, UM, ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE AGAIN IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING.
UH, JUST WANNA CUT, TOUCH ON A COUPLE POINTS.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN FLOODED WITH THE BENZ UNION.
ALL THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN COMING OUT.
A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE RETIRED OR STILL ACTIVE DUTY AND PROBABLY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR STORY TO ME.
AND I GREW UP WITH A LOT OF MONEY.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE MADE IT RIGHT.
I GOT A COUPLE YEARS LEFT START LOOKING FOR WHERE DO WE WANT TO LIVE.
I HAVE A 6-YEAR-OLD OF A NINE MONTH OLD.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK WHERE CAN WE BE OUT OF THE CITY AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY.
MY WIFE'S OPTOMETRIST, HEARING SHIRTS.
I DON'T WANNA LEAVE TEXAS, NOT FROM TEXAS.
WE THOUGHT THAT WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN A PLACE THAT WAS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
FREE FROM THE KIND OF STUFF THAT'S ACTUALLY STARTING TO EXPAND INTO OUR AREA.
WE KNOW THAT THIS, THAT THE ROAD IS AN EXPANSION PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO START ADDING A GAS STATION IN THAT LOCATION WITHOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEASURE FROM THE ROAD TO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OF WILLOW GROVE, RIGHT NOW IT'S 168 FEET.
IT'LL BE LESS THAN 150 FEET BY THE TIME THAT ROAD IS EXPANDED.
THEN YOU GET INTO THIS, THE DISTANCE FROM THE STOPLIGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE 600 FEET.
THERE'S NO INGRESS EGRESS IN THE PLAN FOR THE ROAD.
WE'RE THE ONES TAKING THE HIT ON THAT.
THEY PLAN ON COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE ALREADY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE MORNINGS COMING, TURNING AROUND FOR SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEAL WITH.
WE ALL KNOW WE PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
YOU BAKE AN EXTRA TIME TO YOUR MORNING COMMUTE.
THIS WILL MAKE IT REALLY BAD, LIKE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD FOR US.
I CAN'T TELL YOU, LIKE WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW HALF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
WE GET TOGETHER, WE DO STUFF IN OUR PARK, WE HAVE EVENTS FOR THE KIDS.
WE HAVE EASTER EGG HUNTS, YOU NAME 'EM.
LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DO STUFF.
IT'S THE SMALL, IT'S 302 HOMES.
SO WE ARE THERE LIKE, WANT SOMEBODY IS SICK.
HEY, THERESA BROUGHT MY WIFE'S SUIT.
SANDRA AND GRAN ARE ALWAYS THERE.
LIKE WE BABYSIT EACH OTHER'S KIDS, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THIS JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S INVADING
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THAT COMMUNITY.IT REALLY FEELS LIKE IT'S TA TAKING THAT PERSONAL TOUCH AWAY FROM US TO WHERE LIKE, IT'S NO LONGER THAT SMALL, TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY.
IT'S JUST THE CITY GETTING EXPANDED INTO US FOR A GAS STATION.
NOBODY, NOBODY, NOBODY WANTS A GAS STATION.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION.
THE CONVENIENCE STORES ARE, THERE'S GAS STATIONS EVERYWHERE.
IT IS LITERALLY AT THIS POINT, JUST SOME DEVELOPER, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
COULD BE A FANTASTIC PERSON GRABBING FOR MONEY.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR.
I RESIDE AT 1 1 5 2 5 CYPRESS BARN AND LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS WHEN I HAD A KIDNEY STONE, I POSTED ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD APP, LIKE, WHO DOES ANYBODY KNOW, A YARD PERSON AND SOMEONE, AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS.
CAME AND MOWED MY YARD FOR ME.
UM, THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OUR HOUSES ARE IN THE RANGE OF THE $500,000.
UM, THESE ARE HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOMES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M A VOTER AND TAXPAYER AND THE PEOPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNED A PETITION TO STOP THE BUILDING OF THIS CONVENIENCE STORE.
UM, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, IT'S TOO SMALL OF AN AREA FOR THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S A CONCERN, UM, ATTRACTION OF THE PEOPLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHO ARE UNDESIRABLE POLLUTION, WATER AND TRASH, INCLUDING STORM WATER RUNOFF IS A CONCERN.
UM, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO OUR HOUSES.
ATTRACTS RODENTS, UH, LOWERS PROPERTY VALUES BY AS MUCH AS 20%.
UM, IT'S, THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY.
IT'S NOT ZONED FOR THE GAS STATION.
UM, IT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSED, UH, ZONING CHANGE IN THE GAS STATION.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 0 8 PECAN BRANCH IN SHIRTZ.
I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE GAS STATION AT WILLOW GROVE.
I, MY FAMILY LIVES WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED STATION.
I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE OFFICER AND A PRIOR, UH, ARMY ENLISTED MEMBER WHO SERVED 24 YEARS OF ACTIVE DUTY.
UM, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION WE WERE GONNA PUT UP.
I GUESS WE CAN'T PUT OUR SLIDES UP, BUT WHAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN IS A SLIDE FROM, UH, MR. HAAS'S PRESENTATION LAST MONTH WHERE THEY SHOWED AN EXAMPLE OF A SIMILAR GAS STATION THEY PRESENTED AS A SIMILAR GAS STATION.
BUT IF THAT BRIEFING IS GONNA SHOW UP AGAIN, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS, UH, BUILDING IS NOT SIMILAR TO OUR GAS STATION OR TO, TO THE PROPOSAL FOR US IN THAT, UH, THE GAS STATION, UH, ON THE CORNER OF CHURCHS PARKWAY AND LIVE OAK ROAD, UH, DOES NOT USE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE AS AN ENTRANCE TO THE PRI AS A PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE STATION.
THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS NEXT TO THAT, UH, STATION.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, INSUREDS PARKWAY WON'T HAVE NEARLY THE TRAFFIC LOAD THAT 1518 DOES, UH, IN OUR AREA.
UH, CONVERSELY, UH, THE PROPOSAL PLANS TO USE OUR ENTRANCE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE AS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE TO THE GAS STATION.
AND WE HAVE A SCHOOL JUST ACROSS THE, UH, THE ROAD AT A FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED EXIT.
UH, AGAIN, THE THE PLANNER, UH, ALSO STATED THAT THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE IN THE FUTURE AFTER THIS DECISION'S ALREADY MADE, UH, WHEN IT, AGAIN, IS, IS TOO LATE AS MANY OF MY, UH, FELLOW NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID.
SO AGAIN, REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, OPPOSE THIS BILL.
[ Consent Agenda Items The Consent Agenda is considered self-explanatory and will be enacted by the Council with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless they are removed from the Consent Agenda upon the request of the Mayor or a Councilmember.]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO CONSENT.AGENDA ITEMS. THESE ARE CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY AND INFORMATION PACKETS ARE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING.
THESE ITEMS REQUIRE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS RESIGNATIONS OF CITY, CITY ASSURES, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 0 5 1 0 4.
RE UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 0 5.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 12.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 11.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RE ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 48.
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ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 T 1 53.ITEM NUMBER 10, ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 49.
ITEM NUMBER 11, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 22.
ITEM NUMBER 12, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 21.
ITEM NUMBER 13, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 15.
ITEM NUMBER 14, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 10.
ITEM NUMBER 15, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 18.
ITEM NUMBER 16, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 23.
AND ITEM NUMBER 17, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 0 9.
COUNSEL, DO ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE ACTION? COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD? YES.
I NEED TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR SEPARATE ACTION PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE HAS BEEN REMOVED.
OKAY, ANY OTHERS? COUNSEL, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND, UH, ITEMS NUMBER FOUR THROUGH 17, SO MOVED.
SECOND, HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
[3. Appointments, Re-appointments, and Resignations-City of Schertz Boards, Commissions and Committees Appointments Parks- Donald Nolan Re-appointments EDC-Sammi Morrill EDC-William Dixon Building and Standards-Bruce Johnson Building and Standards-Steven Icke Parks-Johnie McDow Parks-William Bosch Parks-Sally Macias Parks James "Brad" Snow Resignations Building and Standards-Patricia Cullum Parks-James Gavin]
UH, WE DISCUSSION APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND RESIGNATIONS OF CITY ASSURES, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.UH, IN REFERENCE TO, UH, WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD FLOOR'S.
YOURS, UM, I PULL THIS ITEM BECAUSE, UM, THE APPOINTMENTS FOR, UH, DONALD NOLAN IS FOR TS A NOT PARKS AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT IN THE RECORD.
IF YOU LOOK, MR. DONALD NOLAN IS LISTED AS PARKS.
IT NEEDS TO BE LISTED AS T SAC.
I WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EX, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS AND CHANGING, UH, DONALD NOLAN FROM PARKS TO T SAC.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS WITH THE CORRECTION FROM PARKS TO T SAC.
AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE SIX YAYS, NO OBJECTIONS.
[18. Ordinance 24-S-146 - Approving a request to rezone approximately 38.8 acres of land from Single-Family Residential/Agricultural District (R-A) and General Business District (GB) to Apartment/Multi-Family District (R-4), known as Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 68294, 68295, 68296, 68302, 68303, 68315 68316, generally located 1,100 feet to the west of the FM 2252 and IH 35 intersection, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas. Final Reading (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]
MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS IN ACTION.ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 46 APPROVING A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 38.8 ACRES OF LAND FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT R DASH A AND GENERAL BUSINESS GB TO APARTMENT MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT R FOUR, KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 8 2 9 4 6 8 2 9 5 6 8 2 9 6 6 8, 3 0 2 6 8 3 0 3 6 8 3 1 5 6 8 3 1 1 6.
LOCATED 1100 FEET TO THE WEST OF FM 2252 AND IH 35 INTERSECTION CITY OF ASSURES GUADALUPE COUNTY.
AND THIS IS OUR FINAL READING COUNSEL.
OUR IS ANY COUNSEL REQUESTING THE PRESENTATION? AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION IS NOT BEING REQUEST REQUESTED.
SO COUNSEL FLOOR'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
I SEE NO DISCUSSION REQUESTED.
COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS MEETING I HAD SOME CONCERNS AND ISSUES WITH IT AND I ULTIMATELY ENDED UP VOTING FOR IT.
UM, I, I'VE LOOKED AT IT OVER AND OVER AND I HAD JUST HAD A, AN UNCOMFORTABLENESS WITH IT.
AND SO I AM NOT GONNA BE VOTING FOR THE ZONE CHANGE, NOT BECAUSE I'M AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.
I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF DENSITY THAT GOES ALONG WITH R FOUR AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WEER STEIN PROVIDES.
I DROVE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND IT IS JUST NOT SUITABLE FOR THAT LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT IN MY OPINION.
AND, UH, AND WHILE I KNOW I'VE BEEN ONE TO TRY TO PUSH AGAINST USING PDDS TOO MUCH, THIS MIGHT BE A SCENARIO THAT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE BETTER.
UH, I MEAN MORE SUITABLE FOR IT.
JUST, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL ON THE LEVEL OF DENSITY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEE? NONE.
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COUNCIL MEMBER? HAYWARD.SO YOU'VE WALKED OVER TO THE DARK SIDE, MR. MACALUSO, UH, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE HOLD ON TO YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.
I KNOW LAST TIME YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T NOT HAPPY WITH IT, AND SO I WAS WANTING A PDD SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE CONTROL AND HAVE LESS DENSITY.
IT WAS NOT A JAB OR NEGATIVE AT YOU, IT WAS JUST A, A NICE TEASE.
SO I, I JUST, I THINK THAT YOU LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THE STAFF HAS KIND OF REALLY KIND OF WENT THE DIRECTION THAT SOME OF US HAVE PUSHED THEM.
I JUST, UM, JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT IN THIS AREA.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON? I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 24 S 1 46.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WHO'S THAT? UH, MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OH, WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO YAYS FOR OBJECTIONS.
[19. Resolution 24-R-125 - Nominating candidates for the Bexar County Appraisal Board of Directors to be appointed for the 2025 term. (Mayor/S.Edmondson)]
ALL RIGHT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 19.
NOT NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF A OF DIRECTORS TO BE APPOINTED FOR THE 2025 TERM MS. KEARNEY FLOOR IS YOURS.
UM, MAYOR CITY STAFF, UH, TONIGHT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD RESOLUTION 24 R 1 25 NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE APPOINTED FOR THE 2025 TERM SECTION 6.03 K OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE REQUIRES THAT EACH TAXING UNIT ENTITLED NOMINATE CANDIDATES BY RESOLUTION AND SUBMIT THE LIST OF NOMINEES TO THE RESULTS OF THAT VOTE TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER OF THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER THE 15TH, 2024 TO BEGIN THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, EACH TAXING UNIT AUTHORIZED TO VOTE MAY NOMINATE ONE CANDIDATE FOR EACH OF THE FIVE POSITIONS ON THE BEAR APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS BY RESOLUTION OF ITS GOVERNING BODY, AND SUBMIT THE NAMES OF THE E'S NOMINEES TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER BY OCTOBER THE 15TH.
DOES CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS? THANK YOU MS. KEARNEY.
COUNCIL, WHAT, IS THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE, UM, BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD? I SEE NONE.
SO IS THERE A RESOLUTION? THIS RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE PASSED SO THAT WE CAN NO MAYOR THIS RESOLUTION.
IN FACT, THE NEXT THREE WERE ONLY IF OUR COUNCIL WANTED TO NOMINATE TO THE THREE BOARDS OF BEXAR COUNTY, GUADALUPE, AND KOMEL.
AFTER THE NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY EACH OF THE CHIEF APPRAISERS, THEY WILL BE SENDING US A NOMINATION BALLOT IN WHICH WE WILL HAVE COUNSEL LOOK AT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND TAKE A VOTE TO THOSE CANDIDATES THEY WISH TO SUPPORT.
BUT THAT WON'T BE, UH, WE WON'T GET THAT TILL, I WANNA SAY AFTER OCTOBER 15TH.
AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST TO VOTE.
SO THIS IS ONLY A NOMINATION, SO IF NO ONE IS NOMINATED, THE RESOLUTION IS VALID.
WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DEADLINE THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT BACK TO, UH, BEAR COLEMAN IN GUADALUPE COUNTY WITH, WITH NOMINATION? MY UNDERSTANDING IS BY OCTOBER THE 15TH, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR NOMINATIONS IN BY OCTOBER 15TH? YES.
UM, DO YOU WANNA HOLD OFF ON THIS? POSTPONE THIS? YEAH.
MR. MAYOR WITH, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TABLE THESE THREE.
UM, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO TABLE ONE AT A TIME.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD GIVE THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
A MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO TABLE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 25.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL PLEASE CAST.
COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
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YAYS.THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN TABLED, SO WE'LL STILL READ THE NEXT ONE AND WE'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR EACH ONE.
[20. Resolution 24-R-126 - Nominating candidates for the Comal County Appraisal Board of Directors to be appointed for the 2025 term. (Mayor/S.Edmondson)]
NUMBER 24 R 1 26.NOMINATE NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR THE KOMEL COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF THE DIRECTORS TO BE APPOINTED FOR THE TERM OF 2025.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
OKAY, SECOND, HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON TO TABLE ITEM THE RESOLUTION 24 R 1 26.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE SIX AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.
[21. Resolution 24-R-124 - Nominating candidates for the Guadalupe County Appraisal Board of Directors to be appointed for the 2025 term. (Mayor/S.Edmondson)]
RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 24.NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR THE GUADALUPE COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE APPOINTED FOR THE TERM OF 20 20 25 TERM.
COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, SIR.
MOTION TO TABLE HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, YOU HAVE COMMENT? YES, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT LETICIA SEAVER.
SHE'S ON THE, UH, CHURCH STILL BELOW UNIVERSAL CITY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF, UH, TRUSTEES.
I THINK SHE'S ALREADY SERVED ONCE OR TWICE ON THE, UH, GUADALUPE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
SO, UM, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT NOMINATION FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION.
UH, THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION BEEN MADE AND SECOND TO TABLE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU CAN MAKE NOTE OF ONCE, UH, ONCE IT COMES BACK FOR CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
UH, WE HAVE FOUR YAYS, TWO OBJECTIONS, MOTION PASSES AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TABLE FOR OUR NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.
AND IF COUNCIL CAN PLEASE GET WITH, UH, OUR CITY SECRETARY AND IF YOU HAVE NOMINEES, PLEASE, UH, CONTACT THEM SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND PLACE THOSE FOR THE RESOLUTION.
MS. EDMONDSON, THESE ARE DUE BY THE 15TH, AM I CORRECT? THEY ARE DUE BY OCTOBER 15TH BY RESOLUTION.
BUT WE HAVE OUR, WE HAVE OUR MEETING ON THE 15TH.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT 'EM FORWARD TO ASK IF THAT'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT 'EM ON THE, UH, SPECIAL MEETING.
SO, COUNSEL, YOU ARE LIMITED WITH TIME WITH YOUR CANDIDATES.
UH, PLEASE GET THEM TO MS. EDMONDSON BY THE 24TH.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR CONSIDERATION.
I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING FOR ITEM NUMBER 22, BUT AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE GET STARTED BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY OF YOU THAT WANNA SPEAK AND I KNOW THAT'S GONNA LAST CLOSE TO AN HOUR.
UH, AND DISCUSSION COULD LAST JUST AS LONG.
SO PLEASE, UH, YOUR PATIENCE IS, IS NEEDED HERE.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS NOW 7 45.
WE'LL, RESU RESUME OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL SESSION ONCE AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A LONG DAY AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WANNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AND BE FRESH TO LISTEN AND BE ATTENTIVE TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ONCE AGAIN.
[22. Ordinance 24-S-147 – Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow for a Convenience Store with Gas Pumps in General Business District (GB), on approximately 1.61 acres of land, located at the intersection of Schaefer Road and FM 1518, also known as 11786 Schaefer Road, Bexar County Property Identification Number 1396038, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas. First Reading (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]
IS ITEM NUMBER 22.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT GB AND APPROXIMATELY 1.61 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SCHAEFER ROAD AND FM 1518, ALSO KNOWN AS 1 1 7 8 6 SCHAFER ROAD, BEAR, BEAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 3 9 6 0 3 8 CITY, SHE, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.
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FIRST READING, MR. HAAS FLOOR IS YOURS.THANK YOU, COUNCIL MAYOR MR. WILLIAMS, ORDINANCE 24 S 1 47 SAMUEL HAAS, SENIOR PLANNER.
TO GET OUR BEARINGS HERE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN ON YOUR SCREEN.
FM 1518 IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND SCHAEFER ROAD IS TO THE NORTH.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.61 ACRES OF LAND.
IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IT IS ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS.
ON JULY 26 18, PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE MAILED.
UH, THERE WERE 24, UM, OPPOSITIONS THAT WERE SENT IN.
AND THEN ALSO ONE PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH Y'ALL RECEIVED TONIGHT, THERE WAS A SIGN THAT WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND A NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS ON AUGUST 28TH.
PER THE APPLICANT LETTER OF INTENT, THEY'RE PROPOSING A STRIP CENTER WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE, A GAS STATION WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, AND A SHOPPING CENTER.
THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED.
SO WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, UM, THE, WE USE UDC SECTION 21 5 11 D.
THIS IS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
SO NUMBER ONE, THE PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIF SPECIFIED LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES EMBODIED IN THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
SO THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, UH, IS ACCOMMODATING FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES WITH A LIMITED COMMERCIAL.
AND THE COMMERCIAL PROVISION WITHIN THIS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DOES ALIGN WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.
GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SUITABLE AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH OFFER A WIDE VARIETY OF RETAIL AND SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS SERVING THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THIS PROPOSED STRIP CENTER WITH GAS PUMPS WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS EITHER ONSITE OR WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHTS WAY TO MITIGATE DEVELOPMENT RELATED ADVERSE IMPACTS SUCH AS SAFETY, TRAFFIC, NOISE, ODORS, VISUAL NUISANCES, DRAINAGE, OR OTHER SIMILAR ADVERSE EFFECTS TO ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IT IS ADJACENT TO OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE HERE.
THIS IS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER OF SCHAEFER AND FM 1518.
UH, THERE'S ALSO NEIGHBORING COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS YOU'LL SEE DOWN HERE, UH, ALL ALONG 1518 AND IT IS ABUTTING A FM 1518 AS WELL.
NUMBER FOUR, THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT GENERATE PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICLE TRAFFIC, WHICH WILL BE HAZARDOUS OR CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THE PROPERTY DOES ABUT THREE SEPARATE RIGHTS OF WAY WILL, WHICH WILL HELP MINIMIZE THE CONFLICT WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC.
THAT'S SCHAFER ROAD, BROOK ORCHARD AND FM 1518 AND ENGINEERING WILL DO A MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE TIME OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
NUMBER FIVE, THE PROPOSED USE INCORPORATES ROADWAY ADJUSTMENTS, TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES OR MECHANISMS AND ACCESS RESTRICTIONS TO CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW OR DIVERT TRAFFIC AS MAY BE NEEDED TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE DEVELOPMENT.
GEN GENERATED TRAFFIC ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED NOR IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANYTHING TO DEMONSTRATE SUCH ROADWAY ADJUSTMENTS AT THIS TIME.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES DO A MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND REQUIRES THOSE MITIGATION METHODS AT THE TIME OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE INCORPORATES FEATURES THAT HELP MINIMIZE ADVERSE EFFECTS, INCLUDING VISUAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED USE ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE NINE, WHICH IS OUR SITE DEVELOPMENT ARTICLE.
UM, THAT'S TO ENSURE THAT ADVERSE EFFECTS ARE MINIMIZED AND MITIGATED.
SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, LIGHTING SETBACKS THAT ARE EQUAL TO HEIGHT AND THEN ALSO LIGHT SOURCES MUST BE CONCEALED FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THIS IS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE SOME OF THOSE, UH, ARTICLE NINE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS A, UH, GAS STATION THAT IS ON LIVE OAK ROAD AND SURE'S PARKWAY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A BUDDING A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU'LL SEE THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, YOU'LL SEE THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER HERE, UH, TREES, ONE PER 20 FOOT, AND THEN ALSO THE LIGHTING HAVING TO POINT DOWN AND BEING AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED USE MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT, OR TO THE EXTENT VARIATIONS FROM SUCH STANDARDS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED THAT SUCH VARIATIONS ARE NECESSARY TO RENDER THE USE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJO DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL DIMENSIONAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC AND GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO VARIATIONS TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.
THE PROPOSED USE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, EFFICIENT, AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
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SO AS A PART OF PROMOTING HE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING USES, THAT'S UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRADITIONAL USES, TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.THE EXISTING GENERAL BUSINESS ZONING, UH, ON THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO ALSO, UH, OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS SHOWS THAT THERE'S COMMERCIAL INTENTION FOR THIS CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED USE OF COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AS THERE'S OTHER COMMERCIAL FUNCTIONS IN THE AREA, AND IT DOES ACT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN 1518 AND THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SHIRTS, FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS WERE NOTIFIED OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND HAVE PROVIDED NO OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME.
NUMBER NINE, NO APPLICATIONS MADE UNDER THESE PROVISIONS WILL RECEIVE FINAL PROVEN UNTIL ALL BACK TAXES ARE OWED TO THE CITY AND HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL TO THE BEST OF STAFF KNOWLEDGE THAT NO BACK TAXES ARE OWED AND THIS DOES NOT IMPACT CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION.
AND NUMBER 10, OTHER CRITERIA, WHICH HAVE THE DISCRETION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT.
STAFF HAS ENSURED THAT ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE MET AT THIS TIME AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FROM CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE A AND, UH, I'M SORRY, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF 24 S 1 47 CONDITION UPON THE FOLLOWING THAT A BUILDING PERMIT IS APPROVED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE ADOPTION ON AUGUST 7TH, 2024, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL WITH A SIX TO ONE VOTE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US YOUR PRESENTATION.
OKAY, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY ALREADY AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT MORE AFTER I FINISH YOUR PROCESS.
DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW FOR ANY KIND OF REBUTTAL, BUT IF WHEN YOU GET TO YOUR DISCUSSION STAYS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE CALL ME UP AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT BENZENE AND, AND POLLUTION CAUSED BY A GAS STATION, BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THESE ARE FULLY REGULATED BY THE TCEQ, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
THE GAS ITSELF IS STORED IN A PLASTIC CONTAINER ENCAPSULATED IN A CONCRETE BATHTUB.
IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF CATASTROPHIC PUNCTURE OF AN UNDERGROUND PLASTIC TANK, THE GASOLINE WOULD BE STORED OR WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THAT CONCRETE BATHTUB.
AND THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
WE WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF YOUR CITY CODES AND REGULATIONS AS WELL.
YOU GET MORE EXPOSURE TO BENZENE WHEN YOU FILL UP YOUR CAR OR WHEN YOU PUT GAS IN YOUR LAWN MOW, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM LIVING NEAR THIS PROPOSED GAS STATION.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT ACCESS, HOW, HOW YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY.
WELL, THAT'S THE WAY THE PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED.
I MEAN, THE DEVELOPERS WHO BUILT THE SUBDIVISION DID NOT PUT ANY KIND OF A NON-ACCESS EASEMENT TO BROOK ORCHARD STREET OR TO SHAEFER ROAD.
AND AS YOU KNOW, FM 1518 IS UNDER SERIOUS CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.
THE STATE WON'T ALLOW US TO HAVE ACCESS TO 1518 AND YOU DON'T WANT US TO HAVE ACCESS TO 1518.
THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY BE A TRAFFIC SITU OR A ACCIDENT SITUATION THERE.
UM, WE'VE HEARD OF REPORTS THAT WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED A TIA YET.
WE'RE JUST NOT IN THAT STATE OF THE, OF THE, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE DEVELOPMENT YET.
I MEAN, WHEN WE COME IN FOR BUILDING PERMITS, WE WILL HAVE TO DO A TIA AND WE WILL DO ONE AT THAT TIME.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I MEAN THIS IS A FULLY DEVELOPED INTERSECTION.
AT LEAST WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION FINISHES, IT WILL BE A FULLY DEVELOPED INTERSECTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIA WOULD WOULD REALLY ASK US TO DO ADDITIONALLY, I MEAN, AS STAFF SAID, THE PROPERTY IS ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS.
I MEAN, THERE'S SORT OF THIS VIBE THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED.
AND YOU HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT FAST FOOD AT THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU BUILD SOMETHING ELSE? HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER OFFERS FROM ANYONE TO, TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? AND ALL WE'VE HAD SO FAR IS FAST FOOD.
WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP FOUR OR FIVE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ON THIS SITE.
YOU KNOW, AS, AS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORE WITH FOUR LITTLE, UM, THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TYPE OF USES.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING SOMETHING LIKE A DRY CLEANERS OR A HAIR SALON OR A NAIL SALON.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN IN STAFF SAID, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE GAS STATIONS, THOSE FOUR LITTLE PARKING SPACES YOU SEE KIND OF AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE SITE PLAN, THOSE ARE GONNA BE FAST CHARGING EV STATIONS.
SO LET'S SAY YOU DO HAVE AN ELECTRIC CAR AND YOU WANT TO GET YOUR HAIR DONE, YOU CAN PLUG IT IN.
BY THE TIME YOU GET YOUR HAIR FINISHED, YOUR CAR'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FULLY CHARGED.
THAT'S BE A VERY NICE CONVENIENCE FOR ANYONE THAT HAS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE IN THIS AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I MEAN I KNOW IT'S AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
GAS STATIONS ARE SOMETHING EVERYONE USES.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL USED A GAS STATION.
YOU'VE HEARD REPORTS THAT THERE WERE, OR IN NUMEROUS GAS STATIONS IN THIS AREA, A LOT OF THOSE GAS STATIONS ARE OLD BATH GAS STATIONS.
I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL LIKE ME, HAVE DRIVEN PAST THOSE OLD GAS STATIONS AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I TRUST THE QUALITY OF THAT GAS.
HOW MUCH WATER DOES IT HAVE IN IT? YOU'D LIKE TO GO TO THE NICE CLEAN, SAFE GAS STATIONS AND THE FASTER WE BUILD NICE, CLEAN NEW GAS STATIONS, THOSE OLD GAS STATIONS WILL GO A
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BUSINESS.AND THE TCU WILL REQUIRE THAT THOSE, UM, OUTDATED TANKS BE REMOVED FROM THE GROUND.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GO WITH WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LIKE I SAID AFTER THE CITIZENS SPEAK, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA AS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND DUE TO THE HIGH NUMBER OF, UH, RESIDENTS WISHING TO VOICE OR CONCERNS, A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT HAS BEEN SET FOR EACH.
YOU MAY NOT SPEAK TWICE, YOU MAY NOT PROVIDE YOUR PRIVILEGE TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND YOU CANNOT PROVIDE YOUR UNUSED TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
SO, UM, WITH THAT MIKE'S OPEN.
I LIVE ON 1 0 2 2 4 AURORA SKY.
I WAS A PETROLEUM SPECIALIST FOR 20 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE AND A PETROLEUM SPECIALIST FOR 20 YEARS WITH THE DDLA ENERGY DEPARTMENT.
BEEN OPERATING GAS STATIONS AND DFSP MILITARY TERMINALS FOR 40 YEARS ALMOST.
UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
UH, I HAD, UH, TALKED TO A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE GAS STATION THAT WAS COMING IN, AND IT REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING I'D PRINTED FROM MY TECHNICAL LIBRARY BEFORE I RETIRED.
I PRINTED IT OUT AND I WANTED TO READ IT TO YOU FOLKS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
KIND OF TAKE THE EMOTION BACK JUST A NOTCH AND TALK ABOUT A GAS STATION.
AND, AND I, I HAD THIS ARTICLE FROM DEAR UH, EARTH TALK AND THEY, THEY DO, THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT THAT DOES THINGS ALL ENVIRONMENTAL.
AND THIS WAS A, A PERIODICAL THAT SOMEBODY HAD WRITTEN IN AND, AND IT WAS TITLED, LIVING NEAR A GAS STATION.
DEAR EARTH TALK, I'M LOOKING AT A POSSIBLY BUYING A HOUSE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO A GASOLINE STATION.
IS IT SAFE TO LIVE SO CLOSE TO A GAS STATION? WHAT CONCERNS SHOULD I HAVE? I HAVE A TODDLER AND I HAVE INFANT BABIES.
I'M FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GONNA JUST READ SOME EXTRAS 'CAUSE I I KNOW I'M LIMITED ON TIME.
UH, DESPITE ALL THE MODERN HEALTH AND SAFETY GUIDELINES, THEY MUST FOLLOW GAS STATION.
GAS STATIONS STILL POST SIGNIFICANT HAZARDS TO NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN.
SOME OF THE PERILS INCLUDE GROUND LEVEL OZONE CAUSED IN PART BY GASOLINE FUMES, GROUNDWATER HAZARDS FROM PETROLEUM PRODUCTS LEAKING INTO THE GROUND, AND EXPOSURE HAZARDS FROM OTHER CAM CHEMICALS THAT MIGHT BE USED AT GAS STATIONS.
OZONE, GROUND OZONE POLLUTION IS CAUSED BY MR. VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS, VOCS, SOME OF WHICH ARE FOUND IN GASOLINE VAPORS AND OTHERS LIKE CARBON MONOXIDE.
WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT RUBBER BOOTS THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT SAVE SOME OF THAT, UH, VAPOR, UH, TOXINS THAT RELEASED INTO THE AIR.
THOSE ARE NOT MANDATED BY THE EPA ANYMORE.
DURING, UH, PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS, THEY TOOK THOSE OUT.
SO THERE'S NO RUBBER BOOTS AT THE, LIKE THE ONES YOU SEE AT COSTCO.
SO, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO CONTROL THE, THE VAPORS THAT RELEASED FROM THE NOZZLES AND THE GAS STATION.
'CAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT.
NOW THEY ARE ON THE DELIVERY HOSES THAT TRUCKS USE TO, TO DELIVER TO TANKS.
BUT HOWEVER, AS THIS ARTICLE SAYS, VAPOR RECOVERY BOOTS ON DELIVERY LINES, MOST OF THEM, UH, MANY OF THEM DO NOT WORK PROPERLY.
AND THEN THEY RELEASE ORDER LESS HYDROCARBON FUMES, WHICH CONTAIN CHEMICALS LIKE BENZENE THAT ARE RELEASED INTO THE AIR.
THE ARTICLE GOES ON TO SAY, HIGHER OZONE LEVELS CAN LEAD TO RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS AND ASTHMA, WHILE BENZENE IS A KNOWN CANCER CAUSING CHEMICAL ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH, IT GOES ON FURTHER UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS CAN ALSO BE A PROBLEM.
UH, THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE EARLIER, THEY ARE DOUBLE WALLED NOW, WHICH MAKE 'EM SAFER.
BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T, UH, DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WAS A LOT OF THE SPILLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TANK RUPTURES.
THEY'RE OFTEN OVER SPILLED BECAUSE SOMEBODY MISCALCULATED HOW MUCH FUEL IT CAN FIT.
THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC SHUTOFFS.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY'RE FILLING A TANK, IT'S OVERFILLED OR PEOPLE TOPPING OFF THE TANKS OF THEIR CARS TEND TO MAKE SPILLS.
THERE'S NOT A GAS STATION OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOME HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS IN THE SOIL AFTER IT'S BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A WHILE.
IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
UH, THERE ARE SPILLS THAT OCCUR, UH, WHEN THOUSANDS OF GALLON GALLONS OF GASOLINE OVER TIME ENTER THE SOIL.
THE CHEMICALS TRAVEL TO THE GROUNDWATER AND THEY, THEY CONTAMINATE OUR DRINKING WATER, AS WE ALL KNOW.
UH, REPEATED EXPOSURE TO GASOLINE, WHETHER IN LIQUID OR VAPOR FORM, CAN CAUSE LUNG, BRAIN AND KIDNEY DAMAGE ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICATION FOR, FOR AN NIH.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING TOO, AT THE COMMITTEE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, JET FUEL VAPORS THAT SOME OF US, UH, TALKED ABOUT GETTING FROM RANDOLPH.
AND, UH, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF THOSE, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET A WHIFF, BUT THAT'S A VARYING DEGREE OF THE EXPOSURE WE WOULD HAVE NOW, SO, RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS MEASURE, PLEASE.
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YEAH, I HAVE IT TOO.UH, LANCE CAMPBELL, AGAIN, UH, 1 0 4 0 8 PECAN BRANCH, UH, SHIRTS.
AGAIN, I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED STATION.
AS MY, UH, FELLOW NEIGHBORS HAVE MENTIONED.
UH, WE HAVE MANY CONCERNS WITH THE GAS STATION BEING CONSTRUCTED.
SO NEAR OUR HOMES IN THE SCHOOLS THAT EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
AS NOTED, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT HEALTH CONCERNS WITH THE VENT PIPES AND THE BENZENE THAT MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVELY.
AND OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH CRIME.
UH, GAS STATIONS IN CONVENIENCE STORES ARE KNOWN TO ATTRACT VIOLENT CRIME.
AND, UH, THE FACT THAT OUR HOMES ARE, AND THE SCHOOLS THAT OUR KIDS GO TO, UH, THE FACT THAT IT'S SO CLOSE IS VERY CONCERNING.
WE ARE ALSO, OF COURSE, CONCERNED WITH THE IMPACT TO THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES.
AND IN ADDITION, WE ARE, UH, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS KIND OF THE FOCUS OF MY DISCUSSION.
UH, YOU CAN SEE UP ON THAT, UH, PICTURE THERE, UH, THAT FROM THE OVERHEAD VIEW, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, 1518, AS YOU KNOW, IS ALSO BEING EXPANDED, WHICH IS GONNA REDUCE THE AREA AVAILABLE TO THE, UH, GAS STATION AND PUT IT EVEN CLOSER TO OUR HOMES.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, ONE THING THAT WASN'T HIGHLIGHTED IS THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH IS, UH, CREATES AN AREA OF INCREDIBLY HIGH TRAFFIC WITH THE PRIMARY OUTLET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BEING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THAT SCHOOL.
AND JUST A SHORT DISTANCE FROM THE STOPLIGHT BY THE DOLLAR GENERAL.
THEY PLANNED, UH, THE PLANNED ACCESS TO THE GAS STATION IS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S ENTRANCE.
AS NOTED BY THE, UH, PRESENTATION EARLIER.
UM, THIS WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC WILL INEVITABLY CAUSE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AS PEOPLE ENTER AND EXIT THE GAS STATION DURING PEAK TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO TO WORK AND TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.
EVEN TODAY, WE, AGAIN, AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO TURNAROUNDS AFTER THEY DROP THEIR KIDS OFF.
AND KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST CARS, BUT THE DELIVERY TRUCKS, UH, PARTICULARLY SEMIS ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND MANEUVER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THAT SAME ENTRANCE.
UH, THE TRAFFIC SO BAD, UH, THAT PEOPLE ARE, UH, POLICE ARE OFTEN POSITIONED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET.
THAT'S THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YOU SEE THERE, JUST ANOTHER MILE UP THE ROAD OR HALF MILE UP THE ROAD IS A, IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UH, THE TRAFFIC GETS SO BAD, THEY PUT POLICE OUT THERE OFTENTIMES TO FACILITATE, UH, THE TRAFFIC.
UH, AS A RULE OF THUMB, EACH PROPOSED PUMP AT THE CI STATION'S GONNA GENERATE ABOUT 100 TO 130 TRIPS PER DAY.
UH, THE CONVENIENCE STORE WILL GENERATE BETWEEN 800 AND 1200 TRIPS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
I THINK HE SAID IT WAS 2000 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE, UH, TALKING AT LEAST 2,500 TRIPS PER DAY GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE.
UH, MUCH OF THIS, AGAIN, CONCENTRATED AT THE PEAK TRAFFIC TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE DROPPING OFF, UH, THEIR CHILDREN.
UH, FINALLY, WITH RESPECT TO PROPERTY VALUES, HOMES WITHIN A HUNDRED METERS CAN EXPECT TO LOSE AS MUCH AS 16% OF THEIR VALUE AND HOMES WITHIN 600 METERS UP TO 9%.
UH, THAT'S A LOT OF TAX REVENUE AND LOSS OF VALUES TO OUR HOMES.
UH, CONVERSELY, IF THE CITY WERE TO APPROVE A RESTAURANT OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS, UH, THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY NEED, IT WOULD INCREASE VALUE AND REDUCE OUR SAFETY CONCERNS.
THANKS ONCE AGAIN, TIM DSEK 1 1 5 1 7 CYPRESS BARN.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH IMPACTS AS I STATED I WOULD EARLIER.
THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED PRETTY, PRETTY THOROUGHLY.
UM, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE SIX TO ONE VOTE OF YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
IT APPEARS THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE TUNED INTO THE RESIDENTS THAN YOUR PLANNING STAFF.
AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY COME FROM US.
THEY'RE APPOINTED BY YOU ALL AND THEY REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND I, AND I'M SORRY MR. HAAS, A GAS STATION BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A ROAD IS NOT A BUFFER.
OKAY? AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY TALK ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S NOTHING THERE SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS.
I'D RATHER HAVE NOTHING THERE THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE BECAUSE THIS IS DOING NOTHING FOR OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
IT HAS BEEN SAID NUMEROUS TIMES.
TAKE A LOOK AT SOUTHERN SHIRTS.
OKAY? YOUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE A LOT HIGHER THAN OVER HERE IN THIS ESTABLISHED AREA.
YOUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS HIGHER IN THAT AREA OF SHIRTS.
YOUR DISPOSABLE INCOME IS HIGHER IN SOUTHERN SHIRTS.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT.
PLUS I MENTIONED EARLIER, 32 GAS STATIONS IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS IN THE CITY OF 40,000.
AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED, FOR A CITY OF 144,000, THERE ARE ENOUGH GAS STATIONS AND SHIRTS AND AS SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED, THEY'RE WITHIN TWO MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS OF THE NEAREST GAS STATIONS.
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THINGS ARE NOT, THIS IS NOT NECESSARY.AND MOST OF ALL IT'S NOT WANTED.
YOU HEARD 93% OF RESPONDENTS SAID THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AND YOU GOT A 70% RESPONSE RATE.
I WISH WE HAD A 70% VOTER TURNOUT RATE THAT WOULD BE AMAZ AMAZING FOR THIS COUNTRY.
SO PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
I THINK YOU ALL DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
I THINK YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES PROBABLY NEED TO EDUCATE YOUR PLANNING STAFF.
UH, ELLIOT LABOY 11 7 0 9 CYPHERS BARN.
UH, REPRESENTING MY HOUSEHOLD HERE, UH, EXPRESSING OUR NEGATIVE, UH, SENTIMENT FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, GAS STATION.
NOW, I, I DO WANNA MENTION I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR TWO YEARS AND AS A RETIRED AIR FORCE CAPTAIN, UH, REGISTERED NURSE, UH, VETERAN OF THREE WARS AND EXPOSED TO THE MANY CHEMICALS THROUGHOUT THE, THIS IS A GAS STATION, DOESN'T SIT WELL.
AND I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE BUILT, THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GAS STATION.
AND I THINK IF YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS VERY ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'VE SEEN COME TOGETHER AND THAT HAS DRIVE TO BETTER THEIR COMMUNITY IS GONNA DO SOMETHING GREAT.
GOOD EVENING, PATRICIA LUCAS AGAIN, 1 0 4 0 9 PCAN BRANCH.
I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WHAT I WANT YOU TO HEAR FROM ME IS THAT THIS COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER.
WE LITERALLY WENT DOOR TO DOOR.
PEOPLE THAT I HAD NEVER MET THAT OPENED THEIR DOOR AND WERE NEVER NOTIFIED.
SO THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS 18 HOMES OUT OF 302.
HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOESN'T.
WE WERE FINDING PEOPLE THAT HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS GAS STATION.
AGAIN, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE HEALTH RISK.
THE OTHER THING I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS, 15 MONTHS AGO I MOVED, I HAD A DIAGNOSIS OF COLON CANCER RELATED TO MY MILITARY SERVICE.
I MOVED AND, AND THIS WAS MY IDEAL HOME.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, IT WAS QUIET.
THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS AWESOME.
YOU KNOW WHERE I MOVED FROM 3 0 0 9.
YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT'S A ZOO THERE.
I MOVED AWAY FROM THE ZOO TO SOMETHING MORE RURAL.
AND NOW WHAT I'M HEARING IS, YEAH, SORRY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT IN WHAT WE WANT TO, WE ARE REALLY ASKING YOU AS A COMMUNITY, PLEASE HEAR US.
WHY DIDN'T 1518 SEE WHAT SHAKES OUT? THAT'S GONNA TAKE FIVE YEARS.
SEE WHAT SHAKES OUT, THEN START DEVELOPING.
IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THE VIDEO WE DID, MY SON STOOD OUT THERE FOR 35 MINUTES AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
NOW HARD IT IS TO GET A 31-YEAR-OLD UP OUTTA BED.
HE GOT UP OUTTA BED 'CAUSE HE WANTED YOU GUYS TO SEE IT'S LITERALLY CAR AFTER CAR AFTER CAR.
AND THE ONLY REASON THERE WASN'T ANY MORE THAN 42 IS THE TRAFFIC DOWN THE MIDDLE WAS SO BACKED UP FOR CORT, YOU COULDN'T MAKE ANOTHER TURN.
IT'S ALREADY A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
GET TEXT STA OUT THERE, FIX THAT PROBLEM.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANOTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT IN.
HELP US OUT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OUT.
I DON'T LEAVE MY HOUSE OUTSIDE OF 11 HOURS OF 11 TO TWO BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I CAN GET OUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
PLEASE VOTE NO HEAR YOUR PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT.
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FROM 11 7 0 8 S BARN IN WILLOW GROVE.I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN, FOR MY NEIGHBORS, PARTICULARLY THE 12 CHILDREN THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVING WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS PROPOSED STATION.
I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT MY NEIGHBOR, LARRY ALLEN.
HE SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER TODAY.
HIS BACK DOOR'S GONNA BE ABOUT 25 FEET FROM THIS GAS STATION LOT.
MR. ALLEN HAS DONE HIS SERVICE FOR HIS COUNTRY WHEN HIS, WHEN HIS NUMBER WAS CALLED FOR VIETNAM, HE DID NOT RUN OFF TO CANADA.
HE DID NOT ESCAPE TO GRADUATE SCHOOL AT OXFORD OR HAVE WEALTHY FAMILY MEMBERS PAY DOCTORS TO SAY HE WAS UNFIT.
HE DID HIS DUTY FOR HIS COUNTRY AND HE FOUGHT IN THE JUNGLES OF SOUTHEAST ASIA.
HE WAS EXPOSED TO AGENT ORANGE AND HAS FOUGHT MULTIPLE BOUTS OF CANCER AMONG MANY OTHER AILMENTS.
LARRY AND HIS BRIDE, A RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHER, PURCHASED THEIR RETIREMENT HOME IN WILLOW GROVE, SEEKING A SAFE AND SECURE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW AN LLC STANDS TO PROFIT IN RUINING THAT RETIREMENT AND EXPOSING HIM TO EVEN MORE CARCINOGENS.
IS THIS HOW WE REPAY OUR VETERANS? BENZENE IS A KNOWN CARCINOGEN.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS STUDIES COUNTLESS STUDIES AND STUDIES OF STUDIES HAVE CONCLUDED IT'S A DIRECT, IT'S DIRECT LINK TO INCREASE CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA AND LYMPHOMA AMONG THOSE LIVING NEAR GAS STATIONS.
NATURAL AVERAGE SETBACK DISTANCES AROUND 300 FEET.
UM, YOU SEE THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY ARE BASED OFF ASSUMPTIONS THAT VAPOR RECOVERY MEASURES WITH LIMIT TOXIC EXPOSURES.
2019 STUDY OF US GAS STATIONS FOUND THAT AIRBORNE BENZENE LEVELS WERE ACTUALLY 10 TIMES HIGHER THAN WAS ANTICIPATED.
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION STATES THAT NO LEVELS OF BENZENE ARE SAFE.
THE RISK COMPOUND WHEN THAT'S CONCENTRATIONS OF BENZENE ARE HIGHER AND THE EXPOSURE TIMES EXP EXTENDED HOMES WITHIN 320 FEET OF GAS STATIONS HAVE, UM, HEALTH CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
BUT IN THIS, THIS EXPOSURE, IT IS PERSISTENT.
IT DOESN'T END THE MORE TIME SPENT AT HOME.
NOW FOR MEMBERS OF THE WILLOW GROVE COMMUNITY, THE HIGHER OUR RISK EMISSIONS FROM, UM, VENT PIPES NECESSARY FOR THE GROUND TANKS RESULTED IN, UM, BENZENE LEVELS, UH, HIGH ENOUGH TO CAUSE CANCER RISK AT A DISTANCE OF 524 FEET.
THIS ISN'T FLEETING EXPOSURE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE IN A, A BUSY CONGESTED ROAD.
IT STAYS IN OUR HOMES AND WE ARE PERPETUALLY EXPOSED TO IT.
IT'S NO WONDER THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMEND NOT PLACING SCHOOLS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF GAS STATIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE 902 STUDENTS AGED BETWEEN FOUR AND 10 GOING TO SCHOOL WITHIN 500 FEET OF THIS PROPOSAL.
COMMISSIONER CARBONE WAS THE ONLY ONE OF SEVEN AT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS STATION.
HE DISMISSED OUR BENZENE CONCERNS SAYING IT'S IN EVERYTHING ALREADY.
WELL, ADULTS ARE AFFORDED THE CHOICE TO TAKE RISKS WITH THEIR HEALTH.
THE CHILDREN OF WILLOW GROVE AND ROSE GARDEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULDN'T BE AFFORDED A CHOICE WHEN IT COMES TO PERPETUALLY HIGH AIRBORNE BENZENE LEVELS AROUND GAS STATIONS.
THERE IS NO NON-SPOKEN SECTION FOR THESE CHILDREN.
WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO PROTECT THEM.
LASTLY, I'LL ADD, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE 302 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE WITH YOU.
WE HAVE A SETBACK DISTANCE OF 25 FEET FOR, FOR SHIRTS.
WE WILL, WE WILL SUPPORT YOU IMPLEMENTING SAFER SETBACK DISTANCES.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 1 2 PECAN BRANCH RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT DIARY IS.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 20 FEET BEHIND MY HOUSE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE GAS PUMPS, HUH? ALRIGHT, NOW NEXT THEN.
WHERE YOU GOING TO PUT THE DUMPSTER? THAT STUFF GONNA BLOW IN MY BACKYARD.
THE ONLY WAY YOU GET IN AND OUT COMES THROUGH THE ENTRANCE TO OUR HOUSING AREA.
WE GOT, IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU GET OUT STRAIGHTER ROAD.
THE OTHER SIDE UHHUH, HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES OF IT.
BOTH OF 'EM GOT SWIMMING POOLS.
WHO'S GONNA CLEAN THEM? DARN SWIMMING POOLS.
ALL THAT TRASH AND JUNK BLOWING AROUND OUT THERE.
WHEN THAT WIND'S COMING FROM THE NORTH, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT GOT AN 18 WHEELER OUT THERE UNLOADING THAT DARN FUEL IN THAT STATION WHERE IT'S FME GOING TO GO? PREVAILING WINDS COMING FROM THE NORTH.
THE CASE SURE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
THAT BLOWING STRAIGHT OFF OF THAT SERVICE STATION STRAIGHT INTO THE HOUSING AREA.
YOU KNOW, PUT THE ESIA THESE, I COULD SMELL A HAMBURGER.
I WOULD'VE SMELLED A HAMBURGER THAN GASOLINE.
YOU KNOW THAT GAS STATION, THERE'S ALREADY ONE ON THAT END, ONE ON THAT END.
YOU GO DOWN OLD LOUIS SINE ROAD HIT 1604,
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THERE'S ANOTHER GAS STATION THERE.IT WAS EASILY FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
WHY DO WE NEED A FORCE GAS STATION STICKING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROAD FOR ONCE AGAIN TRANSIT MOVING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD BETWEEN I 10 GOING BACK OVER TOWARDS 78.
WHERE DO THEY STOP AT TO GO TO THE BATHROOM? GONNA GO RIGHT THERE AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO RIGHT AROUND BEHIND THAT CAMP OUT ON MY BACK FENCE.
I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THAT FOLK.
I'VE HAD A, I I I DIDN'T THINK THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING BETTER IN THE GAS STATION.
AND FOR WHAT I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A FAST FOOD PLACE ALREADY COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND Y'ALL TURNED IT DOWN.
I SAID, WHAT'S RUMORS GOING AROUND? SO I DON'T KNOW.
ANYWAY, WE DON'T NEED THAT GAS STATION NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ONCE I HIT THAT GAVEL? GOING ONCE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BILL HERNANDEZ AND I RESIDE AT 1 1 5 2 2 0 0 CYPRESS BARN.
I DON'T HAVE, UH, PREPARED REMARKS THIS EVENING, BUT UM, I DO.
AND THERE'S MANY CONCERNS OF COURSE, THAT MY FELLOW RESIDENTS HAVE, UH, BROUGHT FORTH.
UH, BUT ONE ITEM THAT KIND OF CON THAT CONCERNS ME IS THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY OF MORE OF A, UH, CRIMINAL ELEMENT COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I SAY THIS ONLY BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE RECENTLY HAD, UH, CAR BREAK-INS, UH, AND OTHER FORMS OF THEFT.
WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT, UH, DRIVE AROUND THE FIGHT A NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD TRY TO GET THEIR HANDS ON BY HAVING A CONVENIENCE STORE, A GAS STATION, OR ANY BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER THAT INVITES INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT DRIVE AROUND, UH, ESPECIALLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ESTABLISHED TO SEE WHO IS VULNERABLE FOR THEFT OR ANY OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
I KNOW THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO SET UP THIS, UH, GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY WANT, BUT I THINK SHIRTS IS LARGE ENOUGH IF THEY WANNA PUT UP A GAS STATION OR A CONVENIENCE STORE OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I DO, UH, AND CONDUCTING MARKET RESEARCH IS TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT IT'LL HAVE ON OUR CITIZENS AND THE NEIGHBORS FOR WHICH HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE, ON THE, UH, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY, UH, MARKET ANALYSIS WAS DONE, UH, SUFFICIENTLY OR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IMPACT OUR NE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE ON, UH, THEIR DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU GUYS HAVE THE, UH, ULTIMATE DECISION TO, TO VOTE FOR IT OR VOTE AGAINST IT.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE, UH, VOTE NO, UH, ON THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, SCOTT GENTRY, 1 0 4 1 3 AURORA SKY.
THERE WAS JUST ONE COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THE GAS STATION DEVELOPMENT BEING IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
I THINK WE'VE RECEIVED ENOUGH TESTIMONY TONIGHT IN THE CONTRARY OF THAT.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO CASTRO, WHEN, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT.
I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
UM, BUT THINK LIKE IF IT WAS YOU IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CHILDREN, WOULD YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND VOTE WITH COMPASSION? AND ALSO THINKING MOVING FORWARD, THERE IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THAT AREA THAT WILL BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS
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OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT WE ALL WANT FOR SURE.AND WHAT WE WANT THAT FUTURE TO LOOK LIKE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL, UM, COUNSEL AND RESIDENCE, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS.
YOUR SAFETY AND YOUR WELLBEING IS OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO THE AUTONOMY, AUTONOMY AND FREEDOM OF INDIVIDUALS ALLOWING THEM TO CONTROL AND MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING THEIR LAND AND THEIR ASSETS.
THESE RIGHTS INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE HOW THEIR PROPERTY IS USED.
NOW, THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS FACE MANY CHALLENGES AS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT ISSUES WILL RISE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEY HAVE LIMITED TIME TO ANALYZE EVERY DETAIL.
FORTUNATELY, THIS COUNCIL AND I HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF VIEWING THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING, ALLOWING US TO RESEARCH, EXAMINE, AND ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
SO ALLOW ME TO SHARE MY OBSERVATION.
NOW, DURING THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING, THE COMMISSIONERS WERE BOMBARDED WITH THE DANGERS OF BENZENE.
HOWEVER, NONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OPPOSED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE OF BENZENE.
AS ONE COMMISSIONER POINTED OUT, A RECENT STUDY HAS CONFIRMED THAT BENZENE LEVELS ASSOCIATED WITH A NEARBY GAS STATION POSED NO HEALTH RELATED ISSUES TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
MY RESEARCH ALSO LED TO THE SAME CONCLUSION.
IN FACT, BENZENE IS FOUND IN PAINT DETERGENT, HAND SOAP, HAND SANITIZER, DEODORANT, HAND CREAM, SUNSCREEN, SHAMPOO, AND CONDITIONER.
WE APPLIED BENZENE DIRECTLY ON OUR BODIES.
LOW LEVELS OF BENZENE HAVE BEEN DETECTED IN FRUITS, VEGETABLES, NUTS, DAIRY PRODUCTS, EGGS AND FISH, WHICH SOME OF US HAVE ACTUALLY CONSUMED.
HOME GAS APPLIANCES SUCH AS STOVES, OVENS, DRYERS AND WATER HEATERS EMIT BENZENE.
YET MANY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LEAKAGE OF FUMES FROM GAS PUMPS LOCATED DISTANCE AWAY.
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MONITORS THE GAS STATIONS AND ENSURES THAT EMISSIONS REMAIN WELL BELOW THE LIMITS SET BY THE HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS.
RESIDENTS CAN BE ASSURED THAT THE AIR QUALITY IN THE AREA IS SAFE AND DOES NOT PRESENT ANY LONG-TERM HEALTH CONCERNS.
AND IT'S CRITICAL TO CLARIFY A POINT MADE BY THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
THERE IS INDEED A SUBDIVISION IN OUR CITY WITH A MAIN ACCESS ROAD LEADING TO A GAS STATION.
THIS ROAD IS WOODLAWN OAKS AND IT CONNECTS TO FM 30 0 9.
THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION UNDER CONSIDERATION IS ACTUALLY LESS IMPACTFUL THEN THE ONE AT WOODLAND OAKS.
BECAUSE OF GAS PUMPS ARE SITUATED NEAR SCHAEFER ROAD, AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE TO YOUR SUBDIVISION.
IN REALITY, THE ACCESS ROAD FROM THIS SUBDIVISION IS A CITY RIGHTWAY EASEMENT.
THE HOA LACKS THE AUTHORITY OVER IT.
AND REGARDLESS WHAT IS CONSTRUCTED, THEY WILL BE CONFRONTED WITH THE SAME OBSTACLES.
NO INGRESS OR EGRESS FROM FM 1518 UNLESS TDOT PROVIDES A CURVE CUT, ONE ITEM WE MUST HEAVILY CONSIDER IS ACCESS TO FM 1518 IS OUTSIDE THE APPLICANT'S CONTROL.
MANY EX, MANY, MANY EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND CONSIDER THIS.
PROPERTY VALUES IN MAYA OAKS SUBDIVISION HAVE INCREASED 37% SINCE THE OPENING OF THAT GAS STATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO HOME MARKET VALUES, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT A NEAR IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT A NEARBY GAS STATION IS NOT THE PRIMARY FACTOR IN
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DETERMINING PROPERTY VALUES.REAL ESTATE TRENDS AFFECTING THE HOUSING MARKET CONSISTS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF THAT AREA.
THEY PLAY A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN INFLUENCING HOME VALUES.
NOW THERE IS NO DATA TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM THAT GAS STATIONS ARE PRIME TARGETS FOR CRIME IN OUR AREA.
THE HIGH VISIBILITY OF REGULAR TRAFFIC ACTUALLY MAKES THEM LESS APPEALING TO CRIMINALS WHO PREFER TO AVOID DETECTION.
AND REGARDING HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, AS SOME OF YOU STATED, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT LED TO THEIR SITUATION OR THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE.
BUT BEING HOMELESS IS NOT A CRIME.
NOW THIS PUBLIC HEARING MAY HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE, GENERAL BUSINESS ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD ANYTHING PERMITTED UNDER THIS CATEGORY WITHOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OR RESTRICTION OF CITY STAFF, THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE HOA.
AND DURING THE H DURING THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING A NEIGHBORING HOA PRESIDENT SAID, AND I QUOTE, WE RECEIVED A FEW REQUESTS FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN FRONT.
AND I DENY THEM ALL BECAUSE OF ACCESS TO OUR AREA.
COMING INTO WILLOW GROVE, THE UNWELCOME DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WERE NOT ALIGNED WITH YOUR VALUES OR YOUR VISION.
THE UNWELCOME DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT A CONVENIENCE STORE 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T COME, UH, TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BURGER JOINT, A STARBUCKS, OR A DUNCAN.
MANY OF, MANY OF YOU FIND LESS SUITABLE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A TOURIST ATTRACTION OR A FEATURED DESTINATION IN OUR CITY.
IT WILL NOT INCREASE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT TRAFFIC WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE DUE TO THE MANY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY IN PROGRESS OR PLANNED.
THERE ARE OVER 10,000 RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA AND OVER 3000 HOMES AND FUTURE PLANS.
AND ALSO A 350 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX.
THERE ARE NO GAS STATIONS IN SOUTH SHEES.
AND COUNCIL MUST FOCUS ON THE OVERALL BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND ALL ITS RESIDENTS.
WE MUST OPEN OUR MINDS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT THIS CONVENIENCE STORE WITH THE FOUR PAD SITES WILL PROVIDE.
THESE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WILL ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH THAT IS EXPECTED IN THIS AREA.
THIS COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION REGARDING THIS PLAN, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSIBILITY WILL FALL ON MY SHOULDERS.
COUNCIL FLOOR'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I I DO HAVE TO SAY I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START OFF SAYING THAT SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT HERE OR, OR A PROPERTY OWNER HAS RIGHTS, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT THAT WAY.
BUT CONVERSELY, WE HAVE A ZONING PROCESS HERE.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS ZONED COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND GENERAL BUSINESS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT AN INDUSTRIAL THING, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS SO WE CAN GET PUBLIC INPUT TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UM, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE SUVS.
UH, A GAS STATION IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL GENERAL BUSINESS THAT YOU JUST PUT ANYWHERE.
UH, WE HAVE A, A REQUIREMENT IN OUR, IN OUR PROCESS TO EVALUATE SUVS AND SEE IF IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE.
UH, AND, AND TO ME, UM, I VOTED NO THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME IN HERE, AND I STILL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.
UM, THIS IS JUST, TO ME, AN ODD AREA WITH ODD ACCESS, EGRESS, UH, OR ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS OFF OF 1518.
UM, THAT COUPLED WITH THE TRAFFIC FOR THE SCHOOL, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS THE RIGHT AREA FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS.
UH, AND IN LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT, I JUST, IT JUST KEEPS ON REAFFIRMING THAT IN MY MIND.
UM, WILL IT DEVELOP? YEAH, IF, IF YOU WANT ALL BAD NEWS OUT THERE,
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I MEAN, AT SOME POINT THIS WILL DEVELOP, UH, AND MAYBE IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR A SMALL STRIP CENTER THAT'S GOT A NAIL SALON, UH, AND A DRY CLEANER AND A REAL ESTATE AGENT OFFICE AND AN INSURANCE AGENT OFFICE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UNDER, UNDER OUR CURRENT ZONING, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO COMING IN HERE, IT'S NOT GONNA COME BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
MR. JAMES? THIS, THIS AREA IS ZONED, IS, IS ZONED WHAT? COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS COMMERCIAL, LIKE A DRY CLEANER OR A, UH, AN IN AN INSURANCE AGENT OFFICE, A REAL ESTATE OFFICE, A NAIL SALON, UH, A DEVELOPER CAN COME IN HERE AND BUILD THAT, AND IT'S NOT GONNA GO TO P AND Z AND IT'S NOT GONNA COME TO COUNCIL.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT A, A PLAT AND A DESIGN WITH THE CITY STAFF AND CITY STAFF IS GONNA COME BACK AND SAY IT'S GENERAL BUSINESS.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH SUVS.
THIS IS A, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, TO ASSESS.
AND AGAIN, BASED ON THE LOCATION, I, I DO NOT SEE WHERE THIS MAKES SENSE TO PUT A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, FIRST THING I, I KIND OF WANNA ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NOTIFIED.
SO I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT BY STATE LAW, UH, TEXAS STATE LAW, TWO 11.007, UH, C YOU ONLY HAVE TO SEND OUT, UH, A NOTIFICATION FOR THE 200 FEET.
SO EVERY HOME IS NOT WITHIN 200 FEET.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING EVERYONE NOTIFICATION.
IT IS BY STATE LAW THAT WE ARE REQUIRED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO.
UM, AND THE MORE I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SERVICE STATION THAT'S ON 3 0 0 9, IT'S AT A CORNER AND IT HAS A LIGHT, A SIGNAL LIGHT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE ONE UP HERE BY MESA OAKS, IT'S AT A CORNER.
THERE'S LIGHT, THERE'S A LIGHT, THE ONE UP BY, UM, ON ARROW, IT'S AT A CORNER.
IT'S A LIGHT YOU DRIVE OUT THERE.
THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A LIGHT.
IT COULD BE A CORNER, MAYBE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT THERE'S NO LIGHT.
AND I KNOW THAT TDOT'S NOT GONNA DO A CURB CUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE TWO ROADS RIGHT THERE, UM, THAT LEAD INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE MORE I STARTED DIGGING INTO THIS AFTER THE FIRST TIME, AND I DUG INTO IT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS DEAD ON THE VINE, UM, IT WASN'T COMING BACK.
AND THEN THE MORE I'VE DUG INTO IT, THE MORE I'VE LOOKED AT THINGS AND I'VE LOOKED AT THINGS AND I, YEAH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT AND JUST LOOKING AT HOW THINGS ARE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YES, PEOPLE DO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE ON THE ZONING ISSUE FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO GRANT THAT USE OR NOT GRANT THAT USE.
BUT IF IT'S JUST A REGULAR COMMERCIAL THING THAT'S GOING THERE, LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID SAID, DOESN'T COME TO US.
WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO DECIDE.
AND SO I'M, THIS IS JUST KIND OF WHERE I'M LOOKING AND BEING DOWN THERE AND, 'CAUSE I, I LIVE UP IN NORTH SHIRTS.
I DON'T LIVE IN SOUTH SHIRTS, AND VERY RARELY DO I GO THAT WAY 'CAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC DOWN THERE, AND IT'S GOING TO EXPAND AND THE TRAFFIC WILL PROBABLY GET WORSE.
BUT I DO HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE DOWN THERE AND I VISIT THEM.
AND THE MORE I KEEP GOING DOWN THERE, I'M JUST NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION.
I, I THINK WHEN I LOOK DOWN THERE, AND I KNOW THAT I LOOK ABOUT, I LOOK AT 15, 18 AND LO S AGAIN, THAT COULD BE LIKE A PERFECT LOCATION, BUT I DON'T OWN THE LAND.
UM, AND I JUST, I JUST, I AM HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME SAYING THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS 'CAUSE OF JUST THIS LOCATION AND, AND WHERE IT'S GONNA BE AND I, AND WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT THING.
AND SO I, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME ACCEPTING THAT IT'S THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT LOCATION RIGHT NOW AFTER DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH.
ALRIGHT, FOR CLARITY, THERE IS A GA THERE IS SIGNAL LIGHTING AT SHAFER ROAD COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
UH, I'LL TAKE A MINUTE TO, TO RAMBLE ON A LITTLE BIT TOO.
UH, AGAIN, PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT, WE DON'T, THE CITY, WE
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DON'T OWN ANY OF THAT PROPERTY, OKAY? THE DEVELOPMENT IS DRIVEN BY THE OWNERS AND THEIR REQUEST TO DEVELOP.ALRIGHT? AND THEN AS YOU'RE SEEING IT, THE PROCESS GOES THROUGH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
IF THERE'S A ZONE REQUEST, UH, LIKE AN SUP, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, THEN IT COMES THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN COMES TO US, UH, EVENTUALLY, UH, WE CAN'T DECIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE A, UH, A NAIL SHOP OR A DOLLAR GENERAL OR, OR, OR WHAT, UH, THE OWNER'S GONNA COME UP WITH.
ALRIGHT? SO I WISH, I WISH WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFLUENCE, BUT WE DON'T, ALRIGHT? WE'RE THE RE WE RECEIVE THE INFORMATION AS IT AS IT GROWS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HEARD ABOUT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC IS TRAFFIC IS, TRAFFIC IS TRAFFIC.
AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE DOWN THERE NOW, 3000 MORE HOMES OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS.
UH, IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY LIGHTER.
THE 1518 EXPANSION IN, UH, UH, REMEDY, IF YOU WILL, UH, FOR A LOT OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, ISSUES DOWN THERE, UH, IS JUST STARTING NOW.
IT'S A, IT'S ANOTHER THREE TO FIVE YEAR PROJECT.
UH, NOTHING, NOTHING IS GOOD THERE.
I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE SITE PLAN, UH, THE GAS STATION ITSELF ONLY AFFECTS ONE, MAYBE TWO LOTS.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAYS, OH, THERE'S A GAS STATION BACK THERE.
WELL, NO, IT'S REALLY ONLY COVERS ONE, MAYBE TWO LOTS THERE ON THE, ON THE END.
OKAY? THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING THERE, A LOT OF OPEN PARKING THERE, OKAY? UM, AND, AND AGAIN, CRIME COME ON FOLKS.
UH, GAS STATIONS ALONE DON'T CAUSE CRIME.
AND IF YOU'RE TALK ABOUT TRASH, YOU WANT FAST FOOD, RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE TRASH WITH THAT, WITH THOSE.
UH, NOW HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, I, I TEND TO AGREE THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT PLACE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
ALRIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER GOOD PLACES OUT THERE.
UH, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
AND AS, AS THE, UH, MAYOR ALSO SAID, THERE ISN'T A GAS STATION DOWN THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT A GAS STATION DOWN THERE.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF THE AVAILABLE LAND AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING TOGETHER AND, AND, AND PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER.
UH, YOU, YOU DON'T JUST SAY, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD CORNER, LET'S JUST GO PUT A GAS STATION THERE AND GET IT AWAY FROM ME.
WELL, AND, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, ALRIGHT? SO WE CAN'T DRIVE THAT, BUT, UH, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE AGAINST IT AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT, UH, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, DEAN, NOTHING ELSE.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 47, NO MOTION.
ONCE AGAIN, COUNSEL, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE? ORDINANCE 24 S 1 47 MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO APPROVE, UH, ORDINANCE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THIS A SECOND ONLY SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE VOTE ON ONE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE, UH, WORDING, THE, THE RESOLUTIONS.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, COUNCIL CASSIE VOTE WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
NOW YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THREE, YOU HAVE 300 HOMES THAT, THAT BAND TOGETHER.
MAYBE Y'ALL CAN BUY THAT LAND.
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[23. Workshop to discuss the Church of the Good Shepherd and their celebration mass. (Mayor)]
WE HAVE A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CHURCH AT GOOD SHEPHERD AND THEIR CELEBRATION OF MASS.UH, COUNSEL, MOST OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED MY, MY EMAIL REGARDING, UH, THE PROPOSED, BUT, UH, MR. JAMES, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US FROM OUR, UH, ATTORNEY.
I DON'T, YOU DON'T? I THINK WE ALL GOT IT, ATTORNEY.
DID, DID THEY RECEIVE IT? I'M NOT SURE.
AND, AND I DIDN'T GET YOUR EMAIL, I DON'T BELIEVE.
IT WAS JUST, UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE.
I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY ADDRESSED THAT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR YOU.
UH, YEAH, MR. MAYOR, BASED, BASED ON YOUR EMAIL THAT YOU SENT OUT, AND THEN THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY, I WOULD OFFER THAT, WOULD IT NOT JUST BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE SUBJECT AND THE ISSUE OF THAT, OR COUNCIL USED TO BE, UH, JUST TO MERELY AT SOME FUTURE MEETING, UH, HAVE A NIGHT WHERE WE ISSUE A PROCLAMATION, UM, AND BRING IT IN AND, AND, AND PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION, UH, THAT, THAT IDENTIFIES AND, AND ADDRESSES THE, THE HISTORY OF OUR, OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES VERSUS ACTUALLY HOLDING A, UH, RELIGIOUS CEREMONY IN HERE.
UH, I THINK, I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT, THAT IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, UM, THEN IT, IT CAN OPEN UP A, A, A THING FOR THE CITY.
I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MODIFYING OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO, TO HOST, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT IN SOME CASES.
UH, IF WE OPEN IT UP WHERE IT'S NOW A RENTAL FACILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WITH THE LAYOUT, I, I COULD SEE WHERE SEVERAL OTHER CHURCHES WOULD SEE IS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO, TO HAVE THEIR CEREMONIES.
I MEAN, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT TO SAY I'M AGAINST ANY PARTICULAR RELIGION OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO OPEN UP THIS PARTICULAR CITY FACILITY, UM, FOR EXTRANEOUS OUTSIDE, UH, RENTALS AND EVENTS.
UH, SAME THING AS, UH, COUNCILMAN MEMBER DAVIS.
I THINK OUR ATTORNEY, UH, LAID IT OUT VERY WELL.
IT ISN'T, IT ISN'T A MATTER OF A CHURCH PER SE.
IT'S A MATTER, IT'S A MATTER OF OPENING IT UP TO MULTIPLE USES, SETTING RATES, SETTING AGREEMENTS, UH, INSURANCE LIABILITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND, AND ABSOLUTELY A, A SPECIFIC PROCLAMATION TO SUPPORT, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOOD SHEPHERD.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING AN AN ADDITIONAL FORMAL CEREMONY, PROBABLY NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH BOTH, UH, BOTH OF YOU, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY OUR ATTORNEY ACTUALLY CLARIFIED, UH, THE SITUATION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE, I RECEIVED PRIOR TO SENDING THE EMAIL TO EACH AND ONE OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
BUT I TOTALLY, UH, AM IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, WITH YOUR EVALUATION ON THIS, UH, UH, ISSUE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANOTHER COMMENT.
SO NO ACTION IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED ON THIS SITUATION.
[24. Workshop regarding the authority of Schertz to annex near JBSA Randolph. (B.James/L.Wood/E.Delgado)]
ONE.WORKSHOP, UH, ITEM NUMBER 24 WORKSHOP REGARDING THE AUTHORITY OF SHIRTS TO ANNEX NE NEAR JBSA RANDOLPH.
ALRIGHT, MR. JAMES, MR. HAAS FLOOR IS YOURS.
I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO SAM, UM, TO, TO DO THE PRESENTATION.
ORIGINALLY, EMILY WAS GONNA DO IT.
SHE'S, SHE WAS OUT TODAY, SO HE AGREED TO STEPPING INTO IT.
BUT THIS WAS A REQUEST STAFF GOT FROM COUNCIL, UH, TO DO A WORKSHOP ITEM BASED ON A PARTICULAR PROVISION OF STATE LAW THAT GIVES CITY'S PARTICULAR AUTHORITY, UM, TO ESSENTIALLY OFFER UP, UM, WITHIN FIVE MILES OF CERTAIN MILITARY BASES,
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RANDOLPH FOLLOWING WITHIN THAT, UM, THE ABILITY TO EITHER ANNEX WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OR IMPOSE, UH, SOME ZONING RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER.SO I LET STAMP KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE BRIEF AND THEN I'LL COME BACK UP WITH HIM WITH SOME OF THE DISCUSSION.
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT BRIAN IS REFERRING TO IS SECTION 43.0117.
IT'S THE AUTHORITY OF A MUNICIPALITY ANNEX AREA NEARBY NEAR A MILITARY BASE.
AND, UM, BECAUSE JVSA RANDOLPH IS A FUNCTIONING MILITARY INSTALLATION, UH, ERTZ COULD UTILIZE THIS PROVISION TO ANNEX FURTHER TERRITORY WITHIN FIVE MILES OF JBSA.
AND THE SECTION HERE HAS TWO SUBSECTIONS, A AND B.
THIS PRESENTATION WILL KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE MEAT OF, UH, SUBSECTION B.
SO, UH, A, A MUNICIPALITY MAY ANNEX FOR FULL OR LIMITED PURPOSES, ANY PART OF THE AREA LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF A BOUNDARY OF A MILITARY BASE.
AS, AS WE SAID HERE, AND THE, THE VOTERS OF THE AREA, UH, CAN EITHER CHOOSE THE ANNEXATION BY PROVIDING THEM THE MUNICIPALITY WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE REGULATING THE LAND USE AREA.
SO THIS POSITION WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL ELECTION THAT WOULD BE HELD IN THE SPRING.
THE ELECTION WOULD INCLUDE A, UH, PROPOSITION THAT WOULD EITHER FULLY ANNEX, LIMITED ANNEX, OR AN ORDINANCE REGULATED TO LAND USE.
THE CURRENT, UH, PROPERTIES CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ WITHIN THE FIVE MILES AND ONLY PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE, IN THE AREA TO BE ANNEXED, WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS PROPOSITION.
NOT EVERYONE IN THE CITY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER WANT, WHICHEVER OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS GETS THE MOST VOTES OUT OF THOSE VOTING WILL, UH, BE DONE FOR EVERY AFFECTED PROPERTY.
SO WITHIN THAT FIVE MILE RADIUS, HERE'S THE AREA THAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THIS IS THIS PURPLE LINE HERE, IS THAT FIVE MILE BUFFER ZONE IN RELATION OF THE ETJ PROPERTIES.
UM, THESE ARE MOSTLY IN SOUTH SHIRTS.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY ALL IN SOUTH SHIRTS.
AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THE DETAILS OF WHAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE, UH, YOU'LL SEE IN, ON THE TOP LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, THERE'S SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN YELLOW.
THESE ARE THESE, UH, HATCH PATTERN PROPERTIES HERE, UH, YELLOW AND GREEN, EXCUSE ME.
AND THESE ARE UNDER A DELAYED ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO THE CITY AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
UH, AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES, HOWEVER, ARE NOT, YOU SEE THIS LARGE, UH, ETJ PROPERTY HERE AND ONE DOWN HERE TOWARDS OF THE SOUTH.
AGAIN, SOME MORE OF THOSE PROPERTIES ALONG 1518, UH, SOME LARGER PROPERTIES THERE THAT ARE IN THE ETJ.
AND AGAIN, UH, ALONG THE CILLO CREEK HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE PROPERTIES THAT UNDER THAT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH COUNSEL, UH, UNDER 24 R 73, THAT THEY WOULD NOT, UH, BECOME UNDER ACTION OF LGC 4 3 0 1 1 7.
SO THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DOWN HERE WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS, BUT THIS LARGE SWATH OF PARCELS HERE WOULD BE SO THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AN ENFORCE IN ORDINANCE REGULATING THE LAND USE IN THE AREA IN THE MANNER OF RECOMMENDED BY THE MOST RECENT JOINT LAND USE STUDY.
SO THE MOST CURRENT, UH, J LS FOR RANDOLPH IS FROM 2015.
UH, IT WAS AN EFFORT DONE BY CILO, CONVERSE, ALL THE CITIES KIND OF IN THE AREA, LIVE OAK SAN ANTONIO SHIRTS.
UM, AND THE J LS IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THE FUTURE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN LAND USES AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF THE MILITARY MISS MISSION AT JBSA RANDOLPH.
SO THE TEXAS LGC UM, SECTION THAT IS SPECIFIC, THAT IF THE ORDINANCE IS SELECTED BY THE VOTING PROCESS, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE OPTION.
THE ORDINANCE CAN ONLY REGULATE THE LAND USE IN THE AREA BASE ON THE J LS.
SO THIS IS WHAT THOSE AREA REGULATIONS LOOK LIKE.
IN THE JL YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RISK PROFILE IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
URBAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE A PZ, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY PATTERN OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
ONE HOUSE PER 10 ACRES, ONE HOUSE PER 20 ACRES, AND THE APZ TWO, UH, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE SIX FIVE DECIBEL NOISE CONTOUR, WHICH I'LL KIND OF TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT LATER.
AND THE FIRST THREE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS IN THE J LS ARE REALLY JUST PERTAIN TO THE AP PZ AND APZ TWO, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT, UH, THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE IN THE ETJ 'CAUSE THE APZ IS, IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1518.
UM, AND THE RESTRICTION ON THE DECIBEL NOISE CONTOUR, UH, IT WOULD REALLY COME INTO PLAY.
YOU'LL SEE THIS ORANGE LINE HERE.
SO THAT'S THE NOISE CONTOUR THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE 65 DECIBEL.
AND IT REALLY ONLY PERTAINS TO A COUPLE OF THESE PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ.
SO THE JL IDENTIFIES, UH, MILITARY INFLUENCE AREAS, UH, WITH SUB ZONES, SPECIFICALLY FOR JVSA RANDOLPH, THERE ARE FOUR, AND
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YOU'LL SEE THAT THESE ARE BIRD, THE BASH, THE BIRD AIR STRIKE HAZARD, UH, THE VERTICAL OBSTRUCTION, SAFETY AND NOISE.AND THIS IS A MAP OF WHAT, UH, THE BASH LOOKS LIKE.
UM, ALL OF SOUTHERN SHIRTS IS WITHIN THAT FIVE MILE RADIUS OF THE JBSA RANDOLPH.
UH, THIS MEANS THAT PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ IF THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED COULD BE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON IN THE BIRD AIR STRIKE HAZARD.
UM, THIS, THIS COULD INCLUDE NOT PERMITTING CERTAIN TREES, UM, AND FOLIAGE, UM, CERTAIN DETENTION PONDS, LANDFILLS, GOLF COURSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT PARTICULAR SECTION IN THE J LS REGULATES.
UH, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, VERTICAL OBSTRUCTION ZONE.
SO, UH, ALL PROPERTIES IN ETJ IF THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, IF THAT'S THE OPTION, UH, THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
UM, MOST, THE MOST RESTRICTIVE WOULD BE 200 FEET, WHICH IS ALREADY IN EXCESS OF OUR ZONING CODES.
UM, AND IT COULD BE UP TO 300 IN SOME OF THE SUB ZONES.
SO THE CITY OF SHERIFF'S, UH, REGULATIONS ARE ALREADY A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THIS.
UH, IN THE, UM, SAFETY SUB ZONES, THESE ARE REALLY PERTAINING TO, UH, THE A PZ ZONES, THE ACCIDENT, POTENTIAL ZONES ONE AND TWO.
UH, THE JLU IDENTIFIES THE SAFETY ZONES AS A CLEAR ZONE, THE ACCIDENT PO POTENTIAL ZONE, AND, UH, A PZ TWO.
ALL OF THESE ARE THE WEST OF 1518 AND NOT SUBJECT, UH, OR NOT IN THE ETJ.
SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T APPLY TO THESE PROPERTIES, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND FINALLY, THE NOISE CONTOURS, WHICH I KIND OF ALREADY TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT.
THE PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ THAT ARE WITHIN THE 65 DECIBEL NOISE CONTOUR, IF THE ORDINANCE APPROVED, COULD BE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN SOUND ATTENUATION MEASURES FOR BUILDING, UH, CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THE, UM, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE THE NOISE CONTOUR IS, IS, IS NOT COMPATIBLE THERE.
SO, SO IF THE CITY OF SHORTZ MEETS THE CRITERIA OUTLINED AND, AND COULD UTILIZE TEXAS LGC 43 FOR ADDITIONAL MEASURES, ANNEXATIONS OR JAY JAY'S CONSISTENT REGULATING ORDINANCE, HOWEVER, THIS WOULD NOT BE DECIDED UPON BY CITY COUNCIL.
THE CHOICE WOULD BE LIMITED OR WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE FULLY ANNEX OR THE ORDINANCE.
SO BASICALLY IF, IF THE, UM, THE CITIZENS IN THIS AREA DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO GO THE ORDINANCE ROUTE, THEY VOTE ON THAT.
THERE'S VERY LIMITED THINGS THAT WE COULD DO WITH THE JLU AND WHAT WE COULD REGULATE.
WE HAVE TO REGULATE WHAT THE JLU SAYS WE COULD REGULATE, IF THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT THEY MAKE.
OF COURSE, IF THEY CHOSE TO GO FULL ANNEXATION, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO ALL OUR CITY UDC COMPLIANCE.
AND THE LIMITED ANNEXATION WOULD BE IF VOTER, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A LIMITED PERSON, WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO ALL CITY OF SHIRTS, REGULATIONS, AND ORDINANCES.
SO THAT WOULD, WOULD BE LIMITED.
UH, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE HETJ DUE STATE LAW HAVE VERY LITTLE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTS BASED ON STATE LAW.
THE CITY CANNOT ENFORCE HIGH RESTRICTIONS OR LAND USE AND, UH, BASED ON THE CITY SHIRT'S, ORDINANCE OR THE JAILS WITHOUT UTILIZING THAT SECTION 40 THREES.
SO THE RESTRICTIONS BASED ON THE JAILS WOULD BE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE FULL ANNEXATION OF THE CITY.
UH, AND COMMUNICATION WITH JVS RANDOLPH REPRESENTATIVES BASED ON THE AIRCRAFT THAT WILL BE UTILIZED AT JVSA RANDOLPH, THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED J LS UPDATE.
SO THERE MAY BE AN UPDATE TO THE 2015 J LS THAT MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, REGULATIONS.
UM, WITH THAT NEW AIRCRAFT THAT'S COMING IN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING THAT J LS.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, DO MY BEST.
YEAH, ON THE, UH, THE VOTING PROCESS THERE.
THAT'S, WE WOULD HAVE TO SET UP A, UH, AN ELECTION AND THEN NOTIFY EVERYBODY AND VERIFY THAT THEY ARE ONLY THE ONES THAT LIVE IN THAT.
AND, AND ABOUT HOW LONG WOULD THAT PROCESS TAKE? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WE'D NEED AMPLE TIME TO SORT OF, SORT OF WORK IT UP, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD THINK WE COULD DO IT EITHER BY THE MAY OR AGAIN, IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT A BIT THE NEXT NOVEMBER ELECTION.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE ELECTION.
WE CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION TIMES.
MY UNDERSTANDING, WE CAN RESEARCH THIS, BUT YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU COULD, I THINK, I THINK STAFF FOCUSED THE PRESENTATION IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE RIGHT AWAY, MAY IS THE NEXT, UH, OKAY.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD FIT IT INTO THE REGULAR ELECTION CYCLES.
WE COULD DO THAT VERSUS HAVING A SEPARATE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS? YEAH, I ORIGINALLY ASKED THE STAFF FOR THIS WORKSHOP.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN ENTIRE ANNEXATION DRILL WITH NORTH AND SOUTH SHIRTS.
UM, AND WHAT STRUCK ME THE MOST WAS, IF YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE MAPS THAT SHOWS THE, WHAT I CALL GRAY AREAS
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DOWN THERE, UM, WE HAVE GOT SOME, SOME LARGE AREAS IN SOUTH SHIRTS THAT ARE JUST GRAY AREAS.UM, THEY ARE NOT UNDER ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS.
UM, WHERE, AND THEY, THEY DON'T FALL UNDER OUR ZONING OR ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, SO TO ME THEY, THEY LEND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PROPERTY OWNER DOWN THERE TO DECIDE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, THAT WE HAVE NO VISIBILITY OR SAY ON, UH, IT'LL GO TO A COUNTY.
UH, AND THAT COULD INCLUDE THINGS POTENTIALLY LIKE A CELL PHONE TOWER, UH, OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT, THAT MAY NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AIR FORCE BASE.
UH, SO, SO MY TAKE ON IT IS, IS THIS OPTION THAT THE STATE GIVES US, WHERE WE ADDRESS THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE GRAY AREAS AND SAY, LOOK, YOU CAN HAVE A CHOICE.
YOU CAN EITHER AGREE TO ANNEXATION AND I, I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD IT BE STRAIGHT OUT ANNEXATION OR COULD IT BE A DELAYED ANNEXATION AGREEMENT? I THINK IT'S STRAIGHT OUT ANNEXATION.
YEAH, WE, WE COULD GO BACK AND VERIFY THAT.
UM, BUT I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY THEIR CHOICE IS THEY CAN EITHER BE ANNEXED, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD HAVE A SAY OR THEY COULD SAY, NO, YOU'LL HAVE ZONING OVERLAY.
UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT ANNEXED BY THE CITY.
BUT AT LEAST TO ME, THAT GIVES THE CITY SOME SORT OF INSURANCE POLICY THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE, IT WOULD NOT, CERTAINLY NOT ELIMINATE IT, BUT IT WOULD REDUCE OR HELP MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL OF SOMETHING STRANGE POPPING UP IN THESE LITTLE GRAY AREAS SOUTH THAT MAY AT SOME POINT, UH, ADVERSELY AFFECT THE, THE RANDOLPH MISSION.
AND AGAIN, WE CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH AND SEND YOU AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER WE CAN DO A DELAYED, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
[25. Workshop on Impervious Coverage Standards for Single Family Residential Districts (B.James/S.Haas)]
TO ITEM NUMBER 25, A WORK DOC WORKSHOP DISCUSSION ON IMPERVIOUS COVER STANDARDS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.UH, IF I MAY, I ASK THE CITY TO, UH, TO LOOK INTO OUR CITY STANDARDS FOR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
UM, IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PROJECT AT MY HOUSE SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, THAT INVOLVES IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ISSUES.
UH, SO THEREFORE, UH, I, I ASK THE, THE, THE, THE STAFF FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON IT.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, AT THIS TIME RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT, BUT, UH, I WOULD RATHER, UH, SIT IT OUT AND NOT BE PART OF IT AT THIS POINT BEFORE YOU STEP DOWN, UH, LET ME ASK OUR, OUR ATTORNEY HERE, UM, I THINK HIS, THE INFORMATION HE HAS MAY BE VALUABLE TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, ALTHOUGH IF IT IS PERTAINING TO HIS SPECIFIC HOUSE, BUT THIS IS AN OVERALL CITY OBJECTIVE.
I WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING HIS RECUSAL? SO UNLESS THE ORDINANCE, UM, Y'ALL'S ORDINANCES SAYS ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHEN TO RECUSE, UM, THE, THE STATE LAW, UM, RECUSAL RELATES TO WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, FINANCIAL INTEREST IN, IN THE CONVERSATION.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IT IS UP TO WHAT, UM, SHORT OF SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE SAYING EXPLICITLY THAT HE WOULD NEED TO RECUSE HIMSELF, IT WOULD BE UP TO WHAT HIS COMFORTABILITY LEVEL IS.
UH, I DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU STAY ON, ON THE DAIS, UH, BECAUSE I THINK YOUR INPUT'S GONNA BE VALUABLE TO THIS SITUATION.
WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH YOUR SPECIFIC NO ADDRESS.
SO, UH, I THINK IT'S BEST THAT YOU STAY ON IT AND IT IS NOT A FINANCIAL INTEREST.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
WELL, MR. DAVIS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
SO YEAH, SO I'M, I'M JUST GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE TREAT IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IN THE CITY AS A PRACTICE AND MAYBE, UH, JUST PRESENT SOME QUESTIONS TO COUNCIL, UH, TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
SO START WITH DEFINING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
THIS IS IN OUR UDC, HOW WE DO IT.
IMPERVIOUS COVER MEANS IMP PERMEABLE SURFACE, WHICH PREVENT THE FILTRATION OF WATER INTO UNDERLYING SOIL OR BEDROCK SUCH AS PAVEMENT, CONCRETE, OR ROOFTOPS.
THE CITY REALLY LEANS INTO THAT PAVEMENT, CONCRETE AND ROOFTOPS.
AND I'LL KIND OF GET INTO THAT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THIS IN PRACTICE.
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USE THIS A LOT IN OUR 2157.THIS IS OUR DIMENSIONAL AND DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
AND YOU'LL IN OUR, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS HERE, WE HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS.
50%, 75%, YOU KNOW, WE GET, WE EVEN GET DOWN TO 30% IN OUR AGRI AGRICULTURAL DISTRICTS.
AND THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UH, PAVED SURFACE YOU CAN HAVE ON YOUR LOT, ESSENTIALLY.
LOOK, WHENEVER WE DO THESE KIND OF THINGS, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY TREAT, UH, THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
AND SO LOOKING AROUND, WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT ON PAR WITH HOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOES IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SLO THEY GET DOWN TO 35, KIND OF LIKE WE DO.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MIDDLE DENSITY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 60.
I MEAN, SOME OF THESE, UH, CITIES HAVE SO MANY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT I TO LIST 'EM ALL OUT WOULD JUST BE, UH, TAKE A LOT OF SLIDES.
SO I JUST KIND OF SUMMED IT UP HERE, BUT IT, IT ESSENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT ON PAR WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING.
SAN ANTONIO, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY JUST DOES IT BASED OFF OF LIKE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE, ONE WAY THEY DO IT.
SOME PEOPLE ONLY HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY STUFF.
SO, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT, UH, ON PAR WITH, ABOUT OTHER CITIES.
SO AS I MENTIONED, WE REALLY LEAN INTO THAT PAVEMENT, CONCRETE ROOFTOPS AND HOW WE TREAT THAT IN PRACTICE AS ASPHALT CONCRETE ROOFS SHEDS ANY COVERED AREAS.
EVEN IF YOU'RE COVERED AREA, YOU HAVE A EXTENSION FROM YOUR ROOF THAT'S COVERING A PATCH OF DIRT.
IN PRACTICE, WE STILL COUNT THAT AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
'CAUSE THAT IS A ROOFTOP TECHNICALLY.
SO SWIMMING POOLS, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE COUNT, UH, THEY COUNT TOWARDS THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATIONS UNLESS IT'S EQUIPPED WITH AN OVERFLOW DEVICE AND ONLY IF IT DRAINS IT TO A IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, UH, IN WHICH CASE THE WATER SURFACE IS EXCLUDED.
WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERFLOW DEVICE, WE EXCLUDE THE WATER SURFACE.
SO PAVERS, THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S KIND OF IN QUESTION.
LIKE HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE REALLY DO PAVERS? YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN STAFF GOES OUT AND WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE DON'T COUNT IT AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY, IT STILL WILL DRAIN, RIGHT? BUT WHEN WE GET A LARGE CONTI TO CONTIGUOUS AREA OF THOSE PAVERS, UH, WE DO START TREATING IT AS A PAVED SURFACE.
THIS IS NOT CODIFIED IN THE UDC ANYWHERE.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF DO.
GIVE YOU KIND OF SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CRACKS HERE, BUT THIS IS, WOULD NOT DRAIN THE SAME WAY AS, UH, GRASS OR DIRT, YOU KNOW.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, EXAMPLES HERE.
WE HAVE SOME WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF CRACKS, MAYBE A LOT OF WATER GOES THROUGH THAT.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH LARGE PAVERS THAT MAYBE IT IS TREAT IS MORE LIKE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.
AND THEN HOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS? LIKE THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA.
HOW DO, HOW WOULD WE GO OUT AND MEASURE THIS? WOULD WE TREAT THIS AS IMPERVIOUS? WOULD WE TREAT THIS AS IMPERVIOUS? SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA WHEN WE GET STUFF LIKE THIS, OR IF WE GET STUFF LIKE THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF WHAT THEY DEAL WITH OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO, COUPLE QUESTIONS TO GIVE TO COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, DO WE, UM, DO WE CHANGE WHAT WE COUNT AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE? UH, DO WE BROADEN THE DEFINITION OF PAVEMENT OR CONCRETE OR ROOFTOPS? YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SIMPLE APPROACH, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ACCURATELY MEASURE THESE THINGS? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, GO OUT THERE AND MEASURE EACH ONE OF THESE? YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY PUTS A PAVER DOWN AND PUTS A PLANT ON IT, DO THEY DRIVE BY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CITE THEM FOR THAT? I MEAN, HOW DO WE REALLY START, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE REALLY APPROACH THAT PRACTICALLY? UH, SOMETHING THAT'D BE REALLY SIMPLE TO DO.
UH, WE COULD JUST RAISE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT TABLE I HAD SHOWED YOU AND WE COULD GO FROM 50 TO 55%.
IT'D BE REALLY EASY, SUPER EASY TO ENFORCE.
BUT I THINK THERE'S IMPLICATIONS.
AND I THINK STAFF WOULD SAY THERE'S IMPLICATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN WE MOVE THE GOALPOSTS, WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, DO WE, UM, ARE WE 10 YEARS FROM NOW? IS SOMEBODY GONNA SAY, WELL, 50 FIVE'S, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT, NOT ENOUGH.
AND THEN, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING JUST FOR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE INCENTIVIZING LARGER HOMES TO BE BUILT ON THESE LOTS? IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANNA SEE HERE IN INSUREDS? JUST A, JUST A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL THERE.
DO WE CHANGE THE WAY WE COUNT POOL SERVICES? UH, YOU KNOW, DO WE NOT COUNT POOLS AT ALL? SOME POOLS YOU COULD SEE HERE FROM THESE EXAMPLES HAVE QUITE A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE LIP AND THE ACTUAL WATER SURFACE.
THAT'S A LOT OF WATER THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY HOLD IN A RAIN EVENT.
UM, BUT WHAT ABOUT A ZERO ENTRY POOL? YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, PEOPLE BUILD THAT HAVE THAT GO RIGHT UP TO THE LINE.
I MEAN, COULD THIS HOLD ANY RAIN IN A RAIN EVENT? UM, DO WE GIVE DISCRETION TO STAFF? COULD WE GIVE OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR INSPECTORS TO COUNT POOLS AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE BASED OFF OF WHAT THEY DETERMINE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? THIS DOES PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY,
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BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO BE CONSISTENT.UM, AS, YOU KNOW, OUR, YOU KNOW, WE GET A NEW CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR IN, MAYBE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT POOLS.
AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE COUNT THIS? HERE'S A POOL.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY PERVIOUS SERVICES THERE, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY IMPERVIOUS SERVICES.
THERE'S PLANTS GROWING OUTTA THIS POOL.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET CBOS OR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIALS? HOW DO THEY DETERMINE? SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO? DO WE GIVE 'EM DISCRETION? IT'S KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND CONS OF THAT SITUATION IS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
SO ANOTHER THING WE COULD DO, UH, WE COULD CODIFY A LITTLE BUFFER FOR PAVERS.
UH, WE COULD BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ALLOW 200 SQUARE FOOT OF PAVERS BEFORE BEING COUNTED AS IMPERVIOUS.
THAT WOULD BE A REALLY SIMPLE APPROACH.
WE MAY HAVE TO GO IN AND DEFINE WHAT A PAVER IS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, EVEN WHENEVER OUR YOU SAY PAVER, I THINK A LOT OF THINGS COME TO PEOPLE'S MINDS.
MAYBE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT IS AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF SUM UP THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA CHANGE THE WAY WE COUNT IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE? UH, DO WE WANT TO INCREASE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE MAX? CAN WE, UH, CHANGE THE WAY WE COUNT POOL SERVICES AND GIVE, UH, MAYBE GIVE OUR INSPECTORS A LITTLE MORE LEEWAY, A LITTLE MORE DISCRETION? DO WE CODIFY A LITTLE BUFFER FOR PAVERS AND OR DO WE NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL? DO WE KEEP THE WAY THAT WE DO THINGS NOW AND KEEP EXISTING CODES OF PRACTICES? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, WELL, I'LL RECOGNIZE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
I, IN, IN SOME WAYS, A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT, THEY WANT A A 44 FOOT WATT LOT AND, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN, I WANNA PUT A POOL IN.
OH NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT 'CAUSE YOU'VE MAXED OUT YOUR IMPERVIOUS CO COVER.
UH, SO I, I SEE THIS A LOT WITH THE SMALLER LOTS, ESPECIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY JUST ASSUME THAT THEY CAN PUT A POOL WHEREVER THEY WANT AND THEY CAN'T.
UH, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR E EVEN AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN WITH A, WITH A SOLID PAD.
UH, SO IT IT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, OKAY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA PUT A SIGN UP THERE.
NO PO YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD A POOL OR ADD A, UH, ADD AN ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR KITCHEN WITH A SOLID PA UH, PAD.
UH, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, MEASURING THE IMPERVIOUS CO COVER.
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE PRETTY GENEROUS ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, UNTIL YOU START ACTUALLY POURING CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, IT STILL HAS SOME PERVIOUS QUALITIES TO IT.
BUT, UH, YEAH, THE SMALLER, LOTS OF THE TOUGHEST, TOUGHEST ONES OUT THERE.
UH, AND I SEE THAT, UH, LIKE OUR GARDEN HOMES, YOU HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD FOR IT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD.
IT'S A LOT MORE REALISTIC LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, STILL IT'S NEVER GONNA BE EASY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, UM, WHEN YOU WERE GOING BACK AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE BUILDING INSPECTORS TO DO IT, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, IT CAN'T BE SOMEBODY'S INTERPRETATION.
I THINK IF, IF WHAT WE HAVE NOW ISN'T REALLY HAVING, WE'RE NOT HAVING ISSUES WITH THINGS NOW, I'M NOT NECESSARILY ONE TO SAY WE NEED TO CHANGE IT JUST BECAUSE WE NEED TO CHANGE IT.
IF, IF, IF THINGS ARE WORKING OUT AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THING, THE LIST THAT YOU HAD, I, I THINK IT WORKS.
AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, WITH A PAVER, I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA OF A PAVER AND TRYING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
UNLESS WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE RIGID AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE RIGID AND CREATE MORE WORK FOR EVERYONE IF WHAT WE HAVE IS ALREADY WORKING.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO, WHAT, WHAT'S THE NEGATIVES TO INCREASING THE, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE? WELL, YOU COULD, UH, SO BASICALLY, I GUESS NEGATIVE IS KIND OF A SUBJECTIVE WORD, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT A BIGGER HOUSE ON YOUR LOT THAN, THAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT MORE GREEN SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEN MAYBE IT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO INCREASE THAT THING.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION FOR, FOR COUNCIL, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO EACH.
I MEAN, YOU GIVE DEVELOPERS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH MORE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE 'CAUSE WE'RE MA WE'RE GIVING THEM MORE SPACE ON THEIR PROPERTY TO BUILD THINGS, A STRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STORM WATER RUNOFF TO CONSIDER.
THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS THAT ENGINEERING DOES TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET FLOODS AND OR BIG RAIN EVENTS THAT, THAT IT HELP, IT ASSISTS
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WITH THAT.SO IT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS AS WELL.
WELL, LIKE ON THE PAVERS, I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONSIDERATION TO THE SIZE OF THE PAVERS? UM, 'CAUSE I, I, I COULD SEE A LOT OF THOSE SMALLER ONES.
UH, THE RUNOFF IS PROBABLY PRETTY INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO THE LARGE ONES LIKE YOU HAD IN THE PICTURE.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THEY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT THE SAME, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE THEY THEY ARE CURRENTLY.
YEAH, I MEAN I, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE EXAMPLE WE GAVE HERE AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ALLOW LIKE A SMALL BUFFER OF, OF, YOU KNOW, PAVERS BECAUSE IT IS, THERE ARE CRACKS IN THE PAVERS.
IT DOES THE WATER GOES THROUGH, LIKE IT IS A BIT PERVIOUS MORE SO THAN A SOLID SHEET OF CONCRETE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.
UM, WE COULD CODIFY THAT TO HAYWARD'S POINT, COUNCILWOMAN HAYWARD'S BUR THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU GIVE A LOT OF LEEWAY AND DISCRETION WITH OUR, WITH OUR, SOME OF OUR STAFF, THEN WE JUST POINT TO HARD AND FAST RULE AND SAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU GET.
ONCE YOU GO OVER, WE START COUNTING.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE THING WE COULD DO.
I THINK, I THINK I'LL OFFER THIS UP TOO.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, OR WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNCIL IS NOW HOW NUANCED DO WE WANT THE ORDINANCE TO BE VERSUS HOW TRICKY DO WE WANT THE ORDINANCE TO BE? RIGHT? THE OTHER, AND, AND A GOOD POINT IS HOW MUCH SORT OF FLEXIBILITY DO WE WANT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE FOR PER, YOU KNOW, INTERPRETATION.
UH, BUT THEN THAT THAT CAN LEAD TO A LACK OF CERTAINTY GOING FORWARD VERSUS A A HARD, FAST, BLACK AND WHITE.
RIGHT? UH, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER SAYS IT'S 20 FEET AND I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL INITIATIVE.
WELL, IF IT'S 19 AND A HALF, THAT'S GOOD.
RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WITH PAVERS I WOULD KEEP IN MIND, AND THIS, I THINK THERE ARE TWO, I ECHO WHAT SAM SAID.
I THINK THERE ARE TWO REAL REASONS CITY RE SEES REGULATE.
ONE IS SORT OF THE STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, UH, STORMWATER DETENTION IS REQUIRED BASED ON HOW MUCH PAVEMENT IS DOWN.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS AN AESTHETIC.
AND, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS KEEP IN MIND, EVEN WITH PAVER SIZE, IT'S ALL HOW YOU INSTALL IT, RIGHT? AND I'VE CERTAINLY AT MY HOUSE, YOU CAN FIND SECTIONS OF PAVERS THAT ARE WEIGHED DOWN.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OBSCURE, UNEVEN GAPS BETWEEN 'EM AND THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY PUT DOWN THE DIRT.
A FAIR AMOUNT OF WATER RUNS THROUGH.
I'VE GOT OTHER AREAS WHERE IT WAS DONE RIGHT, PROBABLY BY THE PRIOR OWNER.
AND HE WENT DOWN, TOOK OUT THE SOIL, PUT DOWN LAYERS OF SAND, LAYERS OF ROCKS, PACKED THE PAVERS IN, AND THEN CAME IN AND FILLED IN THE GAP.
AND IT FUNCTIONS VIRTUALLY LIKE CONCRETE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS WOULD SAY IS IT KINDA ALL DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LAY THIS STUFF OUT, RIGHT? YOU CAN HAVE TWO THINGS THAT LOOK FAIRLY SIMILAR.
ONE IS MUCH MORE PERVIOUS THAN THE OTHER, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE WANT TO GET.
THAT'S WHERE THE ORDINANCE GETS TRICKY, RIGHT? IF YOU PUT 'EM IN RIGHT, AND YOU PUT DOWN ALL THE SUBS AND YOU FILL THE THE GAPS, THEN IT COUNTS OR IT DOESN'T COUNT.
AND SO I WILL SAY THIS, THAT THE TYPICAL PROBLEM WE HAVE IS, AS I THINK COUNCILMAN BROWN SAID, WHICH IS YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT, AGAIN, AS COUNCIL'S GONE TO ALLOW THE, THE R SIX AND R SEVEN, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THIS MORE OFTEN.
THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT AS MUCH HOUSE AS THEY CAN ON THAT SMALLER LOT, AND WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE ALL REASONS, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT.
UM, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WHEN THE HOMEOWNER BUYS IT AND COMES IN, THEY JUST LITERALLY DON'T HAVE ROOM, WHETHER YOU COUNT THE POOL SERVICE OR NOT, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE DRIVEWAY AND THE HOUSE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD ALL SAY IS IMPERVIOUS THAT THEY CAN'T DO A POOL DECK AROUND IT, RIGHT? I I WOULD SAY MORE OFTEN IN OLDER PARTS OF TOWN, AS HOUSES LEARN AND GROW AND PEOPLE DO VARIOUS THINGS, YOU CAN RUN INTO THESE QUIRKS OF THE PAVER, THE THE NON PAVER KIND OF KIND OF SITUATION.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS TO WHAT DEGREE WE WRITE OUR REGULATIONS, WE'RE GENERALLY ALL PROBABLY THINKING ABOUT THE BACKYARD, RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, I HAVE HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE WHOLE FRONT IS LITERALLY PAVERS, RIGHT? WE'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE.
AND IT, AGAIN, NOT PROBABLY WHAT WE WERE THINKING, WE'RE ALL THINKING BACKYARD, RIGHT? BUT DO WE ALLOW THAT? WHAT DOES THE ORDINANCE SORT OF SAY? AND SO AGAIN, I, I THINK WHAT WHAT MAY BE THE LEAST IMPACTFUL APPROACH TO, TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS IN OLDER PARTS OF TOWN AND MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN NEWER PARTS OF TOWN IS COME IN AND CLARIFY WHAT FALLS UNDER THAT PERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS, RIGHT? AND IT WOULD LIKELY, WHERE WE WOULD GO IS SAY IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT SAM INDICATED, WHICH IS WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A GRACE OF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF PAVERS, RIGHT?
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HOWEVER, THAT'S KIND OF LAID OUT TO SORT OF GET YOU OVER THAT HUMP.HOWEVER, IT'S KIND OF DONE AND WE CAN SIT MORE CONSISTENTLY ENFORCE IT, LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, 200 SQUARE FEET, 500 SQUARE FEET, UM, AND DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT THE BULK OF THE PROBLEMS WE RUN INTO, IT'S NOT A DEBATE ABOUT PAVER SURFACE.
IT REALLY IS ABOUT CLEARLY CONCRETED SORT OF AREAS IS WHAT TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET CALLS FROM COUNSEL, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IT'S THE DRIVEWAY, IT'S THE HOUSE, IT'S THE CONCRETE WALKWAY, AND IT'S THE POOL DECK AND IT'S THAT, IT, IT'S THE COVERED THE THE COVERED, UH, COOKING AREA KIND OF THING, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S 90, 95%.
AND I WILL SAY WHAT SAM SAID IS THIS IS A GOAL POST KIND OF THING.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
WHATEVER YOU DO IT, IT'LL WORK FOR A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE SOMEBODY CALL UP AND SAY, WELL, IF IT'S THIS, WHY NOT? THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T MAKE A CHANGE IN ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE I THINK AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO FIX.
I THINK SAM DID A REALLY GOOD JOB DOING THE RESEARCH ON IT, UM, AND FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, WHICH IS COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE TO CLARIFY WHAT WE COUNT, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR TO FOLKS ON THE FRONT END, RIGHT? WHICH IS, IS HALF OF IT.
AND THEN GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BUFFER.
AND AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S A POSITIVE.
I WILL SAY THERE IS PROBABLY A BIGGER, BROADER CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN TIME.
NOW THAT COUNSEL IN PARTICULAR HAS ALLOWED THE SMALLER LOTS FOR, FOR GOOD REASONS, THE R SIX AND R SEVEN.
UM, AND, AND, AND WE ALLOW THAT, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, THE MARKET TENDS TO BE A BIGGER HOUSE COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.
SO I THINK YOUR, YOUR LAST STATEMENT WAS WHAT I WAS GONNA REFERENCE.
SO BASED UPON LOT SIZE, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO HOW TO DETERMINE IT BASED UPON LOT SIZE? RIGHT NOW IT'S 50% RIGHT? FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? MORE OR LESS ACCORDING TO THAT CHART RIGHT ABOUT THERE.
SO 50% ABOUT, YEAH, IT'S GENERALLY 50% FOR MOST OF OUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS, NO MATTER WHETHER THE LOT IS 80 BY 60 OR YEP.
WHAT'S, UM, BASED UPON THOSE SQUARE, WHAT'S ABOUT 200 SQUARE FEET BASED UPON THOSE LITTLE SQUARES IN THE, UH, OH, THE CARPETS.
CAN YOU ESTIMATE 200 SQUARE FEET FOR ME IS BASICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT ARE THOSE? 18 OR 24? UH, THEY'RE PROBABLY ONE'S LIKE 24.
BUT I DON'T, YOU CAN'T VISUALIZE IT.
AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH A GOOD EXAMPLE WHAT THE SQUARE FEET LOOKS LIKE.
AGAIN, YOU COULD CERTAINLY, BASED ON THE LOT SIZE YEP.
I WOULD SAY THAT THAT GETS, WE START GETTING TRICKY THEN, RIGHT? THAT, THAT SOMEBODY WALKS IN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PROPERTY IS ON, THEY GOT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT'S R SIX, R SEVEN, OR YOU KNOW, THEY'RE POINTING THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN ZONING'S ACTUAL LOT SIZE, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE GOT SUBDIVISIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, 10,000 PER FOOT LOTS IN 6,500.
AND SO AGAIN, WHY DID THEY GET TO PUT THE POOL IN? WHY, AGAIN, IT CAN BE DONE THOUGH.
WHAT ABOUT ASTRAL TURF? YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S, IT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE AGAIN, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT STAFF IS JUST, WE'RE SO BUSY WITH OTHER STUFF, BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? IT YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY PAVED, BUT AGAIN, IF THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS, IS ONE WE, WE DON'T WANNA LET WE, WE WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT RUNOFF, THEN YEAH, YOU PUT DOWN THAT AS STUFF, IT, IT JUST RUNS STRAIGHT OFF OF IT.
RIGHT? WE, WE, WE HAVEN'T DEALT WITH IT.
I THINK OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
GENERALLY, WE, WE GENERALLY DON'T ALLOW IT, UH, PER OUR CODE.
THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WITH IT HAS TO BE LANDSCAPED AT LEAST IN THE FRONT YARD, WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S RESIDENTS THAT DO WANT TO BUILD A, A, A POOL IN THEIR BACKYARD.
I THINK IF, UH, IF WE HAVE, UH, SOMETHING INDICATED THAT THE WATER LEVEL HAS TO BE A CERTAIN, UH, BELOW THE, UH, THE LIP OF THE, THE POOL WILL SUFFICE, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE.
MOST NEW POOLS, I'M LOOKING FOR LEAST OR NOT COME IN AND THEY HAVE THE OVERFLOW VALVE.
AND SO REALLY IT'S NEW POOL, THESE OCCASIONAL, WHICH IS RARE.
IT'S AN OLDER POOL AND WE'RE ADDING PAVED SURFACE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE TEND TO RUN INTO.
LITERALLY, MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT YOU GUYS GET CALLS, IT'S A NEW POOL, IT'S GONNA HAVE AN OVERFLOW.
THEY JUST, IT'S A SMALL LOT AND THEY PAVED A BUNCH OF STUFF AND NOT, WELL, THE POOLS ARE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT YARD.
YOU SEE SO MANY PAVERS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE BACKYARD.
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RIGHT.AND HOW CAN, HOW CAN YOU, HOW CAN YOU GO IN THERE AND CITE SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY PAVERS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE BACKYARD? MAYOR, WE'VE NEVER, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NEVER CITED ANYONE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THIS MAYOR.
IT'S NOT WHAT MAY I, I'M GONNA PAUSE.
I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING DOWN TOO MUCH.
THE, WE ARE NOT GONNA GO IN AND CITE ANYONE, RIGHT? WHAT WE GOT IS A REQUEST WHEN SOMEONE WALKS IN FOR A PERMIT TO PUT IN A POOL OR TO PUT IN PAVED AREA, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO SUBMIT INFORMATION THAT'S ACCURATE AND FACTUAL BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE WITH A PERMIT FOR.
SO IF SOMEBODY TURNS IN A PLAN AND SAYS, HEY, MY WHOLE BACKYARD IS GRASS, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I'M GONNA PUT THIS AMOUNT OF DECK IN.
YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, HAVE AT IT.
WE GO OUT TO DO THAT INSPECTION AND THEY'VE PAVED THE ENTIRE YARD AND THEY SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T DO IT WITH THE POOL.
I JUST LIED ON MY PERMIT APPLICATION.
THEN WE NOT, WELL, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT'S WHY I SAY POOLS ARE DIFFERENT.
WHEN YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU SUBMIT A PERMIT FOR SOMETHING.
RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT IT CLOSER.
I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST DRIVING DOWN THE STREETS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE THE PAVERS.
RIGHT? IF, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WHY DID YOU SHOW ME A PICTURE OF THAT? I I'M SORRY, MAYOR, I, I APOLOGIZE.
I'M CONFUSED WHY I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF PAVERS.
OF PAVERS, RIGHT? THE, THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS, WELL, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BACKYARDS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, NOT THE BACKYARD.
WELL PUT IT LIKE THERE'S ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU OWN.
BUT THEN THIS IS ALL ABOUT PERMITTING, NOT ABOUT TO ME.
I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS IS ALL ABOUT PERMITTING, NOT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DRIVING DOWN SOMEBODY'S ROAD GOING WELL, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE.
OH MY GOSH, YOU GOT TOO MANY PAVERS THERE.
MAYOR, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND.
NO, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE PERMITTING IS DIFFERENT THAN DRIVING DOWN THE STREETS AND SAYING YOU GOT TOO MANY PAVERS.
TO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NEVER, A AGAIN, I GOTTA TELL YOU, STEPH HAS SO MUCH WORK.
PLUS OUR STANDARD IS THE WHOLE LOT.
IT'S, MY POINT WAS SIMPLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AND YOU WANT TO UP THIS, OUR CURRENT RE DOESN'T HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR THE FRONT AND THE BACK.
RIGHT? AND, AND SO AGAIN, JUST WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL HOW WE DO THIS.
UNLESS YOU'RE OKAY WITH SOMEBODY COMING IN AND PUTTING DOWN PAVERS IN THEIR WHOLE FRONT YARD AS A THING, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS WHAT WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MR. MAYOR.
I WAS LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY AND I SAID, NO, PERMITTING IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S INVOLVED IN IT.
EVEN THE SLOPE OF THE POOL, WHERE THE WATER'S GOING.
IF IT RAINS AND YOU'RE GETTING TOO MUCH, IT'S GOTTA FLOW AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.
UH, I JUST, UH, BUT I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE'RE GETTING TOO, TOO MUCH INTO, UH, RESTRICTING INDIVIDUALS ON WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR OWN YARD.
MR. DAVIS, I JUST TO OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF MR. JAMES HAS THE DATA THAT I PROVIDED, UM, THE ISSUE THAT INVOLVES ME IS IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE, IN MY BACKYARD, I HAVE A WOODEN DECK THAT I'M TIRED OF MAINTAINING.
AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO TAKE OUT THE WOODEN DECK AND REPLACE IT WITH A CONCRETE BACK PORCH, BACK PATIO.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT.
AND YOU'VE GOT THE 50% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
IF I COUNT THE THINGS THAT ARE CLEAR IN OUR CODE, THE SIZE OF MY HOUSE, MY EXISTING COVERED BACK PORCH, MY DRIVEWAY, MY SIDEWALKS, MY POOL DECK, APRON FOR MY POOL, EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS NO ARGUMENT OVER THAT.
THAT IS 100% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
I COME OUT TO, I THINK IT'S 38%.
OKAY, WELL, UNDER THE 50%, THE AREA THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CHANGE FROM A WOODED DECK TO A CONCRETE PATIO IS ABOUT ANOTHER 3%.
TAKES ME UP TO 41% STILL WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.
OKAY? THE PROBLEM I RUN INTO IS THE INTERPRETATION OF THE POOL.
FOR ONE, AGAIN, I HAVE AN OLDER HOME, THE POOL WAS THERE WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
IT WAS BUILT WELL OVER 20 SOME YEARS AGO.
IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS OF HAVING AN OVERFLOW DEVICE SHOULD IT OVERFLOW.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY POOL, THE, THE SIZE OF MY POOL IS LIKE 14 FEET WIDE BY 30.
AND IT'S AN OLD, AND THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED, BECAUSE IT'S GOT A SKIMMER IN IT THAT KEEPS THE POOL SURFACE CLEAN, THE WATER LEVEL IS GENERALLY
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ALWAYS SIX INCHES BELOW THE POOL DECK.SO WHILE THERE I UNDERSTAND A CONCERN THAT SHOULD IT OVERFLOW, THAT'S WATER GOING SOMEWHERE.
AND THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY.
THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT 14 BY 30 FOOT POOL WITH A SIX INCH DEPTH FROM THE POOL DECK WOULD MEAN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A RAINFALL THAT'S DROPPING 1600 GALLONS OF WATER INTO MY POOL BEFORE IT OVERFLOWS.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE GRAY AREAS OF LIKE, WELL, WHY IS THAT THE POOL SURFACE AN ISSUE WITH IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE? BECAUSE IF WE GOT THAT MUCH RAIN THAT'S DROPPING 1600 GALLONS OF 1600 GALLONS OF WATER INTO MY POOL CAUSING IT TO OVERFLOW, WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE.
SO, SO THE THE ONE QUESTION IS, AGAIN, BECAUSE MY POOL DOES NOT HAVE AN OVERFLOW DEVICE, SHOULD THAT REALLY COUNT TOWARDS THE CALCULATIONS? COUPLED WITH THAT, UH, WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE ON THE SIDES OF MY HOUSE, THE PREVIOUS OWNERS HAD PUT DOWN LIKE GRAVEL AND ROCK, WHICH IS ANYONE WHO HAS TO MAINTAIN A LAWN, KNOWS PUSHING A LAWNMOWER ACROSS GRAVEL AND ROCK IS NOT FUN TO GET IT TO YOUR BACKYARD.
SO OVER THE YEARS, I TOOK OUT THE GRAVEL AND ROCK LEVELED OUT THE DIRT AND PUT DOWN REGULAR PAVERS.
UM, I HAVE NEVER NOTICED ANY FLOODING ISSUES OR RUNOFF ISSUES.
UH, WHEN IT RAINS THE WATER, I MEAN, THERE'S NO SAND IN BETWEEN THE JOINTS YOU CAN SEE.
MATTER OF FACT, I'M LIKE MR. JAMES, I DO A HORRIBLE JOB OF INSTALL.
SO I'VE GOT BRICKS THAT ARE ALL WONKY, BUT IT'S EASIER TO WALK ACROSS.
THE QUESTION IS, DOES THAT LINEAR FOOTAGE OF THOSE PAVERS COUNT? IF YOU LOOK IN THE UDC, IT SAYS CONCRETE AND ASPHALT.
IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY PAVERS.
WHICH BROUGHT ME TO THE QUESTION TO THE STAFF OF, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEGREE TO WHICH WATER SEEPS IN THROUGH SOMETHING, I COULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT YOUR BACKYARD.
HOW FAST WATER GOES INTO THE GROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD WILL BE DIFFERENT.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOUR BACKYARD IS SAND, YOU PUT IN A SAND, VOLLEYBALL, PUT IN A, A, A SAND VOLLEYBALL PIT IN YOUR BACKYARD AND IT'S ALL SAND, WATER WILL DRAIN INTO THAT FASTER THAN IF IT'S JUST DIRT AND LOO.
CONVERSELY, IF YOUR BACKYARD IS CLAY, THAT'S GONNA DRAIN A LOT SLOWER THAN SOMEONE THAT'S GOT A DIRT BACKYARD.
SO THE ISSUE THAT I SEE MYSELF, THAT OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE WITH PERMITTING IS, WELL, IF I COUNT THE HARD AND FAST RULES, I'M AT 38 AND I WANT TO ADD THREE, IT TAKES ME TO 41, I'M GOLDEN.
BUT IF THE CITY COMES OUT AND THERE'S A GRAY AREA, LIKE MY POOL SURFACE MM-HMM,
THEY DON'T RUN OFF, BUT THEY DON'T DRAIN AS FAST AS DIRT AND THEY COUNT THEM.
WELL THEN AS I ADD UP EVERYTHING, I'M NOW AT 48% AND IF I WANT TO ADD THE 3% FOR THE CONCRETE AREA, I WOULD GO TO 51%.
SO FUNDAMENTALLY THE CITY WOULD SAY, NOPE, YOU'VE EXCEEDED THE STANDARD.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT CONCRETE DECK.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS IS TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SUBMIT FROM MY, MY PERMIT REQUEST? WHAT DO I COUNT? WHAT DO I DON'T COUNT? UH, AND, AND ARE, ARE WE GONNA BE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY ON THIS COUNTS, THIS DOESN'T COUNT, AND WHY AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF CRAZY STUFF.
IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, COUNT PORTION OF THE, OF THE POOL BASED ON THE SIZE AND SURE.
YOU, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SAY WE'RE GONNA COUNT 20% OF THE POOL, WE'RE GONNA COUNT 70% OF THE POOL.
WE'RE GONNA COUNT 53% OF THE POOL.
OR I MEAN, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ANY ABILITY TO, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING IN THAT SITUATION.
WHAT STAFF WOULD PROBABLY SAY, THOUGH, LET ME OFFER THIS MAYOR, IS FOR COUNCIL, JUST TO CHANGE THE CODE AND SAY, WE DON'T COUNT FULL SURFACES AND WE DON'T COUNT PAVERS AT ALL.
AND IT'S CLEARLY, IT'S JUST CONCRETE AND ASPHALT AND THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
AND THAT THEN BECOMES THE LEAST RISKY THING FOR STAFF TO THEN BE CRITICIZED FOR HAVING MADE A DECISION.
NOW, THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS TO THAT, BUT STAFF WOULD SAY, WELL, COUNSEL, CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
TALK TO COUNSEL IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.
BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
AND SO AGAIN, THE EXAMPLE SAM GAVE YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY COME
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IN AND DO PAVER THE RIGHT WAY.YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO 'EM, COVER THE ENTIRE BACKYARD, AND I GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR CALLING GROUSE AND GOING, I GOT ALL THIS WATER COMING OVER.
OUR ANSWER IS, THAT'S A CIVIL MATTER.
WELL, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO, IT'S EASY FOR STAFF THOUGH.
WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS HOW EASY IT IS FOR THE STAFF TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH IMPERIOUS COVER AND WHAT IS FAIR TO THE HOMEOWNER.
I THINK I THINK'S WHAT AN EASY, STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS FOR A HOMEOWNER TO GET THROUGH, FOR STAFF TO CALCULATE.
THERE IS ALSO THEN THE QUESTION OF HOW MUCH CERTAINTY DO YOU WANT? IT'S BLACK AND WHITE.
THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY WITHIN IT.
YOU EITHER MEET IT, YOU DON'T, 99% OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO IT, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.
NOW, THE DRAWBACK WITH THAT IS SOMETIMES STAFF FEELS LIKE WE GET CRITICIZED WHY WE AREN'T FLEXIBLE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SIX INCHES SHORT.
THE FLIP SIDE THEN IS WE GIVE STAFF FLEXIBILITY AND STAFF FEELS LIKE WE GET CRITICIZED WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBOR'S CALLING.
WHY, WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE NOT LETTING HIM? WELL, THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
I, I THINK THAT'S THE BALANCING ACT.
I, I THINK CALCULATING A, UH, THE SIZE OF THE POOL AND HAVING STAFF DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF IT, UH, WE COULD USE AS, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
I, I THINK TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM THOUGH, RIGHT.
ALL YOU'VE DONE IS SAID, RIGHT.
THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT WASTE STAFF DOES IT PER THE CODE IS, UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OVERFLOW VALVE RIGHT.
OR AN OVERFLOW, THEN YOU'VE CONCRETED THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BUCKET, A HOLE, AND YOU FILLED IT WITH WATER, BUT YOU EFFECTIVELY HAVE CONCRETE THERE.
I, I THINK, AGAIN, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE STAFF WOULD ALWAYS BE CONSISTENT, BUT I THINK IF SOMEBODY WALKED IN AND SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, I'VE GOT THIS EXISTING POOL.
'CAUSE ALL THE NEW ONES CAN HAVE THE OVERFLOW AND IT, THE WAY IT'S SET UP, YOU CAN COME OUT WHENEVER YOU WANT AND, AND I'VE GOT THIS BIG A GAP.
THE INSPECTOR MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND GO, ALL RIGHT, FINE, I'LL LET IT GO.
I, I CAN'T PROMISE THEY ALWAYS WOULD.
THAT'S THE JUDGMENT CALL THING IN IT.
BUT, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THIS PROBLEM OF THE PAVER, NO PAVER KIND OF A THING.
AND SO IF COUNSEL WOULD PREFER THIS CERTAINTY, THEN AGAIN, JUST GO, IT'S THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
IT'S CLEAR CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.
WE DON'T COUNT THE POOL, DON'T COUNT PAVERS NO MATTER HOW MUCH PAVER YOU PUT DOWN OR NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, UNLESS YOU LITERALLY CONCRETE OR ASPHALT UNDER THE SURFACE OF THOSE PAVERS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME IN AND GET A PERMIT FOR PAVERS WHEN THEY'RE DECIDING TO PAVE THEIR, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GET ANYBODY COMING IN FOR PAVERS.
AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE DILEMMA, AND I WILL OFFER THIS.
COUNCILMAN DAVIS WANTING TO BE HONEST, WANTING TO BE FORTHRIGHT, COMES IN AND SAYS, HERE'S WHAT I'VE GOT.
BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS FORTHRIGHT SORT OF SLIDE STUFF AROUND.
AND WE'RE NOT WALKING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING IN THE BACKYARD THROUGH THE GATE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POOL STUFF.
WE'RE NOT WALKING AROUND THE OTHER SIDE TO SEE HOW THEY PAVE THIS STUFF ILLEGALLY.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE RIGHT THING GETS PENALIZED.
THE PERSON WHO'S SNEAKY WITH IT RIGHT.
WE INSPECT IT, WE CLEAR IT, AND THEY HAVE THE CONCRETE COMPANY COME BACK OUT THERE THE NEXT DAY AND THEY LAY DOWN A BUNCH OF MORE CONCRETE.
I MEAN, IT CAN'T GO INTO SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, CAN'T PEER OVER THE FENCE, CAN'T LOOK FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S WINDOW.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS BROUGHT IT UP.
CAN YOU JUST REPLACE THE PAVERS WITH GRASS AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAVERS BEING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OR YOU AT A POOL A OVERFLOW TO THE POOL.
I'M, I'M JUST GOING, ARE THERE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO MITIGATE, IF IT'S THE PAVERS? SO WE'RE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A PAVER, WE'RE GOING INTO SPECIFICS TO HIS PROPERTY, WE NEED TO STAY.
SAM WOULD BE WILLING TO GO HELP HIM.
SO WE'LL STAY OUTTA SPECIFICS.
SO COULD SOMEONE POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE, THEIR BACKYARD? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A WAY OF SAYING 200 FEET OF PAVERS AND WE DON'T COUNT THAT.
BUT AFTER 200 FEET WE COUNT IT.
I MEAN, IN THEORY, I'M TRYING TO FIND A EASY WAY.
IN THEORY, THEORY THEY COULD, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER HAD ANYBODY GO RIP UP PAVERS TO DO STUFF AGAIN.
AND, AND I'LL ASK LISA IF SHE WANTS TO CHIME IN OR MAYBE SHE JUST WANTS TO STAY BACK THERE.
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FIRST TIME I CAN THINK OF WHERE WE'VE HAD SORT OF AN EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER, HEY, I WANT TO CHANGE THIS THING WITH THIS EXISTING AND KIND OF RUN INTO THIS.WHAT WE TYPICALLY GET IS, IT'S A PRETTY CLEAR, I WANNA PUT IN A POOL.
I WANT TO PAVE THIS DECK AREA.
AND IT EXCEEDS, I, WE, WE DON'T GET THIS VERY OFTEN.
NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T FIND A SOLUTION, BUT, BUT IT, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE HAVE HAPPENED.
I, EVERY OTHER COMPLAINT I'VE GOT FROM COUNSEL IS ABOUT NOT COMPLAINT FROM COUNSEL, BUT WHERE COUNSEL HAS, HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO FORWARD A COMPLAINT FROM A RESIDENT SEEKING AN EXPLANATION FROM STAFF.
IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY BEEN THE POOL AND THE NEW PAVING DECK IS WHAT I CAN THINK OF.
AND AND THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE.
IT SEEMS LIKE MORE PEOPLE, 'CAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A PERMIT FOR A POOL AND YOU WANT TO GET EVERYTHING ALL SQUARED AWAY SO THAT YOU'RE NOT WALKING ON MUD AROUND YOUR POOL.
AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE YOU SAID WHEN YOU PRESENTED, WHEN SAM PRESENTED 200 FEET, YOU COUNT, YOU DON'T COUNT.
I MEAN, SO THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DOES, DOES THAT MAKE IT SIMPLIFIED OR DOES IT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT IN THE PROCESS? WHAT I YEAH, IT, IT, IT COMPLICATES IT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE WOULD SAY YOU WOULD DO WITH THIS IS YOU SORT OF DEFINE MORE CLEARLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA COUNT AS FAR AS PAVERS AND WHAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA COUNT.
SO IT'S CLEAR TO FOLKS ON THE FRONT END, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA COUNT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE NOT GONNA COUNT.
AGAIN, THE THE BALANCE IS NOT GETTING SO TRICKY.
AND, AND WHEN YOU GET THAT, THEN IT'S THE 20 FOOT VERSUS 19 AND A HALF.
AND THEN GIVE SOME GRACE PERIOD FOR THE PAVERS BE BECAUSE THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME OTHERS OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD SOLVE IT.
BUT THIS IS LIKELY, I WOULD THINK A CHANGE, WE WOULD MAKE IT, IT WOULD FIX THIS.
AND I WOULD BET MAYBE ONE TIME OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS STAFF WOULD GLEEFULLY COME DOWN TO MY OFFICE AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE A MINUTE? WE GOT ANOTHER HOUSE THAT CAME IN AND IT WAS THIS PAVER THING AND, AND THIS ORDINANCE LET 'EM GET, LET 'EM DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND RIGHT.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T CORRECT THE PROBLEM.
IT BECAUSE IT'LL HELP THAT PERSON.
I JUST DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO THINK WE REGULARLY GET INTO THIS PAVER DISCUSSION, BUT, BUT WE COULD, IT'S NOT CLEAR.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO OUR RESIDENTS TO SAY, LET'S PROVIDE SOME GREATER CLARITY.
AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK THERE PROBABLY IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THE WAY MOST PEOPLE KIND OF DO PAVERS AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THE OLDER PART, IS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME THAT YEAH.
AREN'T, AREN'T PUT DOWN THE BEST AND IT DOESN'T CREATE THE ISSUES WE WANT TO CREATE.
AND, AND THERE'S PROBABLY STILL SOME FLEXIBILITY OF STAFF TO, TO LET STUFF SLIDE.
AND, AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE SENT EMAILS OUT AND SAID, YEP, WE'RE GONNA LET THIS KIND OF GO, THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE, DA DA DA DA DA.
KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IF SOMEBODY CREATES A RUCKUS AND I GET CALLED UP HERE AND SAY, WHY DID YOU DO EXACTLY THAT THING? DOES IT SAY YOU CAN, I'M GONNA GO NO, DOESN'T EXPLICITLY SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE DID AND IF RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, MR. SO WE TRY TO MANAGE THIS.
WOULD MR, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH RIGHT NOW IS SAY POOL SURFACE? RIGHT? I MEAN, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE'RE DEALING WITH A POOL PERMIT.
SOMEBODY'S COMING IN, THEY'RE TAKING A PORTION OF THEIR YARD OR, OR IS IT SOMETHING OTHER THAN POOL DECK? YEAH.
IT'S THE DECKING AROUND IT BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERY POOL THAT COMES IN NOW HAS AN OVERFLOW.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DON'T COUNT THE POOL SURFACE.
IT'S, WE COUNT THE DECKING AROUND BECAUSE WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO WITH THE SMALL LOTS IS THEY PUT IN A FAIRLY SMALL POOL AND THEY PRETTY MUCH WANT TO PAVE THE ENTIRE BACKYARD EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE FEET WHERE THEY'VE GOT SHRUBS.
BECAUSE MUCH LIKE SHERRY DOESN'T LIKE TO MOW OVER THOSE ROCKS AND PUSH THEM.
SO, SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT, I MEAN, IN MOST INSTANCES THAT POOL SURFACE AND A NEW POOL, I MEAN, WE'VE SAID IT ALREADY THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COUNT AS IMPERVIOUS.
IT'S PERVIOUS SURFACE 'CAUSE IT HAS THE OVERFLOW AND ANY OTHER PART OF THE POOL DECKING THAT PUSHES OVER THE 50%, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE WANT CLARITY AS FAR AS THE STAFF.
I MEAN, TO BE ABLE TO REAFFIRM THAT, THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PAVEMENT OR SOME KIND OF SURFACE AROUND A POOL DECK THAT IS GOING TO PUSH IT OVER THE 50%.
SO WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY'S COMING IN FOR A PERMIT LIKE MR. DAVIS'S AND COUNCILMAN DAVIS'S SITUATION WHERE IT'S GONNA PUSH
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'EM OVER 50%.SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO JUST NOT COUNT ANY POOL SURFACES AS PERVIOUS? SURE.
WE COULD ALSO CHANGE THE CODE TO SAY WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA COUNT ANY POOL SURFACE AS IMP AS IMPERVIOUS.
AND THEN PAVERS OR PAVERS, I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE SMALLER PART OF THE ISSUE RATHER THAN THE POOL SURFACE.
YOU, YOU COULD, AGAIN, I, I, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE WAY TO DO IT.
AND I'M SURE WE WOULDN'T HAVE BE BACK HERE EVER WITH AN ISSUE.
I THINK THAT'S THE LOGICAL WAY TO GO.
BUT, UH, COUNCILMAN BROWN SIMPLICITY,
DON'T, DON'T MENTION PAVERS AND KEEP IT TO SOLID CONCRETE OR OKAY.
YOU KNOW, UH, THAT, THAT TO ME JUST, IT, IT KEEPS IT SIMPLE FOR YOU.
WE STILL HAVE DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, MOST OF OUR POOLS ARE GONNA BE NEWER.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A, AN OVERABUNDANCE OF OLDER POOLS THAT DON'T HAVE, UH, DRAINAGE IN 'EM ANYMORE.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK WITH A CODE AMENDMENT THAT SAYS WE COUNT THE, THE ROOF SURFACE.
AND THEN WE COUNT SOLID CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.
WE'LL MAKE CLEAR WE DON'T COUNT PAVERS REGARDLESS OF THE EXTENT OR HOW THEY'RE PUT IN.
AND WE DON'T COUNT POOL SURFACE AREA NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT SHOULD BE THE EASIEST EDIT.
I THINK IT'D BE VERY EASY FOR, FOR STAFF TO SEE AND, AND FAIR TO THE HOMEOWNER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN
THEY ALL NEED OVERFLOW, HOUSE OVERFLOW.
AND, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
MY MIND WAS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
[26. Workshop regarding the July 2024 Financial Update Presentation (S.Gonzalez/J.Walters)]
MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 26, A WORKSHOP REGARDING, UH, THE JULY, 2024 FINANCIAL UPDATE PRESENTATION, MR. WALTERS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF CHURCH.
I'M GONNA GO OVER, UH, SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION, UH, FROM, UH, JULY, AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, MONTHLY WITH THESE UPDATES.
UM, AND WE HAVE, SO I DO HAVE FOR Y'ALL IS A 130 SLIDE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
I HAVE A SCRIPT I'M GONNA FOLLOW ABOUT FIVE MINUTES PER, UM, GOOD THING IS YOU WON'T NEED TO GO HOME.
YOU CAN JUST GO BACK STRAIGHT TO WORK TOMORROW MORNING.
WE'LL JUST GO AND GO THROUGH THIS.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH, UM, THIS VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE FINE POINTS AND, UH, DIFFERENT AREAS FROM THE CITY OF SHEZ, UH, CONCENTRATING ON WHERE THE REVENUES ARE AND THEN, UH, THE MORE DETAILED FINANCIAL REPORT IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO, THIS IS OUR, OUR FIRST GO AT THIS ONE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFINE THE INFORMATION.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THOSE IN FUTURE UPDATES.
SO THE REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE HAVE THE 2023 BUDGET AND THEN ACTUAL, AND THEN THE CURRENT 24 BUDGET AND ACTUAL, UH, SO YOU CAN SEE A COMPARISON.
UH, AND THIS IS ATTACHED TO THE, UH, AGENDA ITEMS, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY.
UH, YOU NOTICE WE DID TRY TO ADJUST THE BUDGET TO WHERE WE GET OUR MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE, UH, WHICH IS REALLY IN THE DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY MONTHS, UH, WHEN WE GET THE PROPERTY TAXES IN.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIG PORTION FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND WHERE WE GET MOST OF OUR FUNDS.
UH, THE REST OF THE, THE MONTHS ARE RELATIVELY EVEN.
WE GET, UH, STRAY PAYMENTS AND, AND PROPERTY TAXES IN, UM, SALES TAXES IS RELATIVELY EVEN THROUGHOUT THE, THE YEAR.
UH, AND THEN THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THE SALES TAXES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE GENERAL FUND IS A LOT SMALLER.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SALES TAXES JUST BY ITSELF, THEY WILL ADJUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT HERE IT'S RELATIVELY EVEN.
AND THEN YOU SEE DIFFERENT SPIKES.
UH, ACTUALLY MAY IS A GOOD ONE FOR PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS AND THEN PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT THEY HADN'T PAID FOR YET.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER SPIKES YOU GENERALLY WOULD SEE COMING FROM, UH, LIKE BIG COMMERCIAL PERMITS, UH, FOR THE YEAR TO DATE.
UM, WE EXPECT THE BUDGET, WE EXPECT TO BRING IN ABOUT, UM, $43.8 MILLION.
AND WE'RE AT $43.3 MILLION, UM, AT JULY.
SO IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER WHERE WE'D EXPECT TO BE, UH, UNDER THE EXPENSES.
OUR EXPENSES ARE RELATIVELY FLAT THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SAME KIND OF, UM, UM, AREA IS THE SAME OR THE, UH, BUDGETS ARE FLAT.
UM, WE DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH FLUCTUATION
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IN THERE.UH, THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IS, UH, PERSONNEL MOST GET PAID TWICE A MONTH.
THERE'S ONLY ACTUALLY TWO MONTHS WITH THREE PAYCHECKS.
EVERY MONTH HAS TWO, SO IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT.
UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME BIG LARGE CAPITAL PURCHASES AND THAT WOULD CAUSE A SPIKE.
IT'S UP IN LIKE RIGHT HERE IN MARCH.
UM, OTHERWISE WE'LL BE FAIRLY STABLE.
UM, FOR THE 20 23 24 BUDGET, WE'D EXPECT TO BE ABOUT 42.7.
AND CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 35.5, UH, RELATED TO SOME OF THE CAPITAL ITEMS HAVEN'T COME IN YET.
SO IF YOU LOOK JUST AT VALOR TAXES, THIS IS WHAT SHE'D EXPECT.
UH, AGAIN, WE GET THE MAJORITY HERE IN DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
UH, ALL THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE DUE IN JANUARY.
SOME PEOPLE PAY LATE, BUT GENERALLY BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, WE HAVE MOST OF THE PROPERTY TAXES.
I MENTIONED THERE ARE SOME FLUCTUATIONS LIKE MARCH AND APRIL, A LITTLE BIT, UH, LOWER, UM, MAY AND JUNE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
UM, AND THEN FEBRUARY IS HIGH.
FEBRUARY WAS ACTUALLY CHRISTMAS, SO IT'S COMING IN A COUPLE, UH, TWO MONTHS LATE.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DECEMBER AND CHRISTMAS AND FEBRUARY.
UM, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BIG GENERAL FUND, IT, IT KIND OF EVENS OUT.
'CAUSE OF FLUCTUATIONS ARE MUCH LESS IMPACT.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE HAVE, WE'VE BEAT MANY MONTHS FROM LAST YEAR.
WE WERE LOW HERE, THE F OR SORRY, THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS, UH, WE BEAT OR MET EXPECTATIONS, UH, OVER LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THEN STARTING IN ABOUT FEBRUARY, UH, WE ACTUALLY WERE LOWER THAN LAST YEAR FOR A COUPLE MONTHS.
UH, STARTED PICKING BACK UP AGAIN, UH, RECENTLY, UH, WHICH IS VERY NICE.
UM, WE STILL EXPECT TO BE, UH, BELOW OUR TARGET FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE SALES TAXES.
UM, BUT WE DID JUST GET, UM, SEPTEMBERS IN, UH, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 10%, UH, GROWTH, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS NICE.
BUT WE STILL THINK WE'LL BE LOWER, UH, PERMITS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, PERMITS ARE DEFINITELY RELATED TO, UH, COMMERCIAL BIG FLUCTUATIONS.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS, UH, KIND OF HARD TO BUDGET AND, UM, GET THESE IN LINE WITH, WITH WHAT WE THINK.
WE COME IN FOR JULY, WE HAD 12 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS AND TWO COMMERCIAL PERMITS.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WAS.
AND THEN THIS WAS A LARGE, THIS IS THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT CAME IN, UH, RIGHT AT THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR.
UH, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE EFFECT OF THESE BIG COMMERCIAL PERMITS CAN HAVE ON, UM, THE PERMIT REVENUE.
UH, FRANCHISES ARE RELATIVELY FLAT.
UH, THESE ARE THE RIGHT OF WAY USES FOR, UH, UTILITIES BASICALLY.
UM, AND THEY DO HAVE SOME SUMMER MONTHS SPIKES FOR, YOU KNOW, UTILITY USAGE.
OTHERWISE, UH, THE RELATIVELY FLAT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, UH, ON OUR INVESTMENTS.
UH, SO, UH, WE KEEP, UM, 92% RIGHT NOW OF OUR INVESTMENTS IN INVESTMENT POOLS.
UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 4% IN CASH, 3% IN CDS, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE 1% IN SORT OF A LONGER TERM INVESTMENT.
UM, THE INVESTMENT POOLS ARE LIKE A MONEY MARKET.
MUTUAL FUNDS ONLY FOR GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
SO ONLY, UM, GOVERNMENTS ARE, UH, ALLOWED TO INVEST IN THE, UM, INVESTMENT POOLS.
UH, BUT THEY OPERATE JUST LIKE A MONEY MARKET MUTUAL FUND.
UH, WE CAN GET THE MONEY OUT THE NEXT DAY, WE BUY SHARES.
UH, EACH PIECE CAN'T GO BELOW A DOLLAR LIKE THE BREAK THE BUCK WE HAD BACK, UH, FROM THE LAST GREAT RECESSION.
UH, AND THEY FOLLOW THE FED FUNDS RATE VERY CLOSELY.
SO EVERY TIME THEY RAISE THE RATE, WE IMMEDIATELY SEE THAT BENEFIT.
UH, IF THEY LOWER THE RATE, THEN WE WILL MORE IMMEDIATELY SEE THE DETRIMENT.
UM, SO THE CHURCH'S INVESTMENT POLICY RIGHT NOW IS KEEPING IT SHORT.
WE WERE ABLE TO RIDE THAT WAVE UP AND WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF BENEFIT TO GOING FURTHER OUT AND GETTING, UH, LOCKING YOUR MONEY AWAY FOR A LONGER TIME TO GET MORE RETURN ON IT.
UH, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THAT WILL PROBABLY CHANGE ONCE WE SEE THE FED START TO LOWER INTEREST RATES.
UH, WE THOUGHT WE'D SEE A COUPLE MOVEMENTS BY NOW AND THEY KEEP DELAYING IT.
SO WE'LL SEE IF THEY MANAGE TO DO IT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, IF THEY'RE GONNA ROLL INTO NEXT YEAR.
ONCE THEY DO THAT, CHANGE THE, UH, PORTFOLIO, UM, ALLOCATION TO GO MORE LONG TERM.
IF THIS ARE LOWERING THE RATES, WE WANNA TRY TO LOCK IN SOME RETURN ON THE LONG END.
BUT THE INVESTMENT RATES, SO YOU CAN SEE OUR PORTFOLIO IS THE GREEN LINE AND THEN THE THREE MONTH TBI IS THE BLUE LINE.
SO WE, THAT'S WHERE THE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT AS CLOSE AS WE CAN.
UH, AND WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO, TO WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT LOW AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE, THE WRITTEN, UH, OUR INVESTMENT, OUR INVESTMENT POOLS OR THE MAJORITY OF OUR AREA OR THE MAJORITY OF OUR RETURN.
AND THE, UH, THREE MONTH TBIS JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THAT ON THE WATER AND SEWER REVENUE.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S VERY, UH, VERY FLAT FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
UM, WE HAVE THE BUDGET AND ACTUAL BACK AGAIN.
SO BUDGET, ACTUAL, BUDGET ACTUAL.
UM, SO WE HAD A LOT OF WATER USAGE IN OCTOBER TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER.
UH, WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH USAGE.
UH, WE USUALLY HAVE A BIG SPIKE OR LAST YEAR WE SAW A BIG SPIKE IN
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AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.UH, WE'LL SEE IF WE SEE THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR AS WE'RE COMING UP INTO THOSE MONTHS.
UH, BUT THIS IS A VERY NORMAL EVEN LINE AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CITY OF CHURCHS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TOO MANY WATER RESTRICTIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, DECEMBER AREA SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AS WE, PEOPLE TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE NOT TO WATER, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, CITY, UH, SHORTS, RESIDENTS DO LIKE TO CONTINUE WATER IN THE WINTER, EVEN THOUGH WE RECOMMEND WE DON'T DO THAT.
UM, ON THE, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT JUST THE CURRENT THREE, THIS IS WATER, UH, THIS IS OUR SEWER AND IT'S OUR GARBAGE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE EACH OF THOSE THREE LINE UP AND WHAT MAKE UP THE OVERALL REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE CITY.
UH, FOR THE WATER SEWER FUND, UH, WATER'S STILL THE, THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR.
UM, AND SEWER AND GARBAGE ARE COMING UP IN SECOND AND THIRD.
WE DO HAVE WATER DROP OFF A LITTLE BIT AND THEN PEAK IN THE HOT MONTHS.
THE REST OF 'EM ARE RELATIVELY FLAT UNDER THE EMS REVENUE.
UH, THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO ACTUAL BUDGET TO ACTUAL, UH, SO WE HAVE A RELATIVELY FLAT AREA.
THEY DO EVERY NOW AND THEN SPIKE EVERY QUARTER WHEN THEY GET THEIR QUARTERLY PAYMENTS IN FROM THE OTHER ENTITIES.
WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO, UH, THOSE ARE WHAT THOSE BIKES ARE.
AND WE'LL EVEN OUT THAT BUDGET TO ACTUAL.
SO, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE COMING IN HIGHER ON THOSE.
UH, WE EXPECTED TO HAVE ABOUT $10.7 MILLION IN REVENUE.
SO FAR WE HAVE 11.6, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR THEM.
THEY'RE DOING A, UM, A GOOD JOB SO FAR THIS YEAR IN BRINGING IN MORE REVENUE UNDER THE EDC.
THEIR REVENUE'S ONLY SALES TAXES.
SO THIS WILL BE MONITORING SALES TAXES VERY CLOSELY.
UM, AS WELL AS INVESTMENT REVENUE.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF INVESTMENT REVENUE.
THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS TO INVEST CURRENTLY.
UH, BUT THEY EXPECT TO BE ABOUT $7 MILLION.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT $7.3 MILLION.
AGAIN, THAT COMES FROM THE INVESTMENT REVENUES REALLY OVERTAKING THEIR BUDGET.
UM, AND WITH THE FED LEAVING THE RATES HIGH, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT BEING AS HIGH THIS LONG.
SO WITH THE EDCS UH, RESERVE, THEY WERE ABLE TO COME PULL IN QUITE A BIT OF, UM, UH, REVENUE FROM THE INVESTMENTS TO OFFSET THE DROP IN SALES TAXES WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL, VERY QUICK OVERVIEW, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S LATE.
UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER, UH, THE BEST WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE DIRECT, UM, INFORMATION.
IF YOU WANNA REQUEST IT, UM, OVER AN EMAIL, UM, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL BE SURE TO ADD IT.
I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY COUNCIL WANTING TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT I DO HAVE ONE.
UM, DO YOUR MONTHLY REVENUE SOURCES, IS THAT, DOES THAT USED TO COVER PAYROLL? IF NOT, WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? IF YOU GO BACK TO, UH, UH, NUMBER EIGHT.
DOES IT COME OUT OF THE, ANY ONE OF THESE POOLS? UH, THE MAJORITY, SO, YES.
SO A LOT OF 'EM ARE INVESTMENTS THAT ONLY 4% IN CASH.
SO IF WE LOOK AT GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE, THE LARGEST, MOST VOLATILE AREA, UM, WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT IN THESE MONTHS, THE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND THEN MARCH THROUGH FEBRUARY, WE ACTUALLY PULL MONEY OUT OF OUR INVESTMENT POOLS INTO CASH.
AND THAT'S THE COVERS OUR PAYROLL AND REGULAR EXPENSES.
UH, AND DURING THESE THREE MONTHS, WE ACTUALLY PUT MONEY INTO THE INVESTMENT POOLS, UH, SO WE CAN EARN MORE, UM, INTEREST IN INCOME.
[ Closed Session]
WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 0 7 2 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENTAL CODE DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.
WE WILL RECONVENE AFTER OUR DISCUSSION.
[ Reconvene into Regular Session]
THE TIME IS NOW 10 16.WE'LL BE COMING INTO A REGULAR SESSION AFTER OUR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION REGARDING OUR CLOSED SESSION.
THE TIME START TIME WAS 10 0 3, END TIME WAS 10 0 9.
THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND ANY OTHER REQUIRED REQUIREMENTS OR CONTRACT OR, OR DOCUMENTS TO PURCHASE REAL PROPERTY NOT TO EXCEED 250,000.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO.
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ALRIGHT.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
I WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
[ Requests and Announcements Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers for updates or information from Staff Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers that items or presentations be placed on a future City Council agenda City and Community Events attended and to be attended (Council)]
COUNSEL ANY POSSIBLE UPDATES OR INFORMATION REQUESTED FROM STAFF COUNSEL? ANY POSSIBLE ANY POSSIBLE ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO PLACE ON THE FUTURE AGENDA? COUNCIL MEMBER MSO? YES.I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF WE PUT TOGETHER A WORKSHOP FOR THEM ON, UH, FOR PPD SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO MAYBE CLARIFY SOME OF THE CONFUSIONS AND JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM TO KNOW WHEN IT'S A RIGHT OPPORTUNITY, WHEN IT'S NOT A WORKSHOP ON PDDS.
ANNOUNCEMENTS BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS OR EVENTS HE ATTENDED? MAYOR PRO TE WESTBROOK.
COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS? UH, YES SIR.
I DID ATTEND A TO MEETING AND OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING.
COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON ATTENDED HOG WILD AND THAT WAS ALL.
I ATTENDED AN INTERVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.
I ATTENDED THE SAN ANTONIO BUSINESS JOURNAL, UM, LUNCHEON AND IT WAS TO AWARD OUR OWN, UH, CHAMBER PRESIDENT MAGGIE TITTER WITH A TOP EXECUTIVE WARD FOR 2024.
UM, A FAJITAS AND MARGARITAS AT THE BLUE BONNET.
THEY HAD A, A RIBBON CUTTING THE TML BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, GEO FIELD CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS, BUT THEY'RE FINALLY PART OF THE CHAMBER AND THEY WERE CELEBRATING THEIR 20 YEARS HOG WILD.
AND THEN TODAY, THE AUSTIN SAN ANTONIO GROWTH SUMMIT AND THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE.
RIBBON CUTTING FOR, UH, FAJITAS AND MARGARITAS.
THANK YOU AGAIN, UH, TO OUR LAW FIRM.
ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS NOW 10 19.