Oct 22, 2024 City Council

SO FIRST ON THE AGENDA THEN WILL BE THE PRESENTATION OF THE TML MUNICIPAL EXCELLENCE AWARD.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.

ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA REVERSE THE ORDER HERE ON OUR PRESENTATIONS.

UH, FIRST WE'RE GONNA DO THE PRESENTATION FOR TML MUNICIPAL EXCELLENCE, AND THEN WE'LL GO, UH, THEN WE'LL DO THE POSTER, UH, PRESENTATION.

THAT WAY WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND TAKE SOME PHOTOS.

[ Presentation of the TML Municipal Excellence Award (S.Williams/S.Gonzalez)]

MS. GONZALEZ? YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, PRETTY HEAVY.

UM, SO FOR THOSE THAT WERE THERE AT THE TML CONFERENCE, UM, I KNOW THAT EVERYONE WAS HERE FOR THE AWARD, BUT I AM EXCITED TO BE HERE.

AND IF I COULD ASK THE LIBRARY STAFF THAT ARE HERE.

SO WE HAVE MELISSA HORNE, LIZZIE ATOR, KATRINA, AND JOANIE.

AND SO DURING THE 2024 TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN HOUSTON, THE CITY OF SHIRTZ WAS, UM, HONORED AND RECEIVED A 2024 MUNICIPAL EXCELLENCE AWARD IN THE CITY SPIRIT CATEGORY FOR CITIES OVER 25,000 IN POPULATION.

SO THIS AWARD RECOGNIZED THE CITY FOR ITS ADOPT GRANDPARENT PROGRAM.

AND FOR THIS PROGRAM, THE SHIRTZ PUBLIC LIBRARY PARTNERED WITH LEGACY AT FOREST RIDGE, A LOCAL SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY TO CREATE AN ADOPT A GRANDPARENT FOR THE HOLIDAYS EVENT.

THIS LOW COST PROGRAM ALLOWS SHIRTS, CITIZENS TO ADOPT RESIDENTS OF THE SENIOR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE THEM WITH GIFTS FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

OVER 325 ITEMS WERE DISTRIBUTED LAST DECEMBER AT A CELEBRATION RECEPTION.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY WAS ALSO RECOGNIZED AS A FINALIST IN THE MANAGEMENT INNOVATIONS CATEGORY FOR THE SHIRTS EMERGING LEADERS PROGRAM, WHICH FOSTERS THE NEXT GENERATION OF CITY LEADERS.

SO, UM, MAYOR, MR. WILLIAMS, IF Y'ALL COULD COME DOWN SO WE COULD TAKE A PICTURE, PLEASE.

AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN THE MIC OVER REAL, REAL QUICK TO MELISSA TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT MORE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I JUST WANTED, UH, WE INVITED SOME SPECIAL GUESTS WITH US.

SO I THINK AS SOON AS WE TAKE THIS PRESENT, DO THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN TAKE OUR PICTURE, WE'RE GONNA INVITE A COUPLE OF OUR, UM, PARTNERS FROM, UH, THE LEGACY AT FOREST RIDGE UP TO TAKE A PICTURE TOO.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

WITHOUT THE WONDERFUL STAFF AND THE WONDERFUL RESIDENTS AT THAT FACILITY, WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THEY CAN COME AND SHARE IN THIS WITH US TONIGHT.

BUT FIRST, THAT THING WAS HEAVY AT TML AND I EXPECT IT TO BE HEAVY HERE TONIGHT TOO.

SO THANK WHO NEEDS TO KEEP THIS ? 'CAUSE IN THE TROPHY CASE, THE TROPHY CASE, DO YOU HAVE ONE AT THE LIBRARY? WE COULD GET ONE.

WELL MAKE ONE.

THANK YOU Y'ALL SO MUCH COMING.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO OUR CITY STAFF.

UH, KNOW OUR, OUR CITY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY, UH, BY TML,

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UH, FOR, FOR THE RECOGNITION THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR OUR CITY AND ALSO THE, THE PROGRAM FOR ITSELF WHEN ADOPT A A GRANDPARENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL, RIGHT NEXT ON THE AGENDAS, THE FIRE PREVENTION POSTER CONTEST.

UM, OUR PROGRAM FOR 2024 IS GOING TO BEGIN ON NOVEMBER 20TH.

SO THE GRANDPARENT STOCKINGS FROM LEGACY WILL HAVE THEM ALL UP IN THE LIBRARY STARTING THAT DAY FOR ADOPTION.

AND LAST YEAR WE ADOPTED THEM ALL OUT WITHIN FOUR HOURS.

SO IT GOES SUPER FAST.

, COME GET IT FAST.

[ Fire Prevention Poster Contest Awards Presentation (S.Williams/G.Rodgers/B.Boney)]

THE AWARDS AND PRESENTATION.

YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR GUTIERREZ, MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THESE AWARDS TODAY, WHICH IN WHICH WE'RE PRESENTING 2024 FIRE PREVENTION MONTH POSTER CONTEST WINNERS.

SO HERE WITH ME TODAY IS OUR FIRE CHIEF GREG ROGERS, ASSISTANT CHIEF JOHN PERRY, FIRE PREVENTION SPECIALIST, JACOB EMERSON, AND MYSELF, DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL JAMES RICHARDS.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW THE, THE HISTORY, WE LIKE TO WORK WITH OUR YOUNG ONES IN THE COMMUNITY TO REACH OUT TO ENCOURAGE FIRE PREVENTION EARLY ON.

AND TO HELP US DO THAT, WE REACH OUT TO OUR SCHOOLS TO INTERACT WITH THEM THROUGH MANY EVENTS, ONE SUCH AS THE FIRE PREVENTION MONTH POSTER CONTEST.

AND IN DOING SO, WE WORK WITH S-C-U-C-I-S-D SCHOOLS AS WELL AS FOUNDERS CLASSICAL ACADEMY AND SCHOOLS OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS.

THEN YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR, AND MR. WILLIAMS AND OUR WONDERFUL CITY STAFF GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUDGE AND THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF THOSE JUDGING.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THAT.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE STARTING WITH OUR KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIRST GRADE WINNERS ON THE BOARD.

YOU CAN SEE OUR FINALISTS RIGHT NOW AND OUR THIRD PLACE WINNER.

WE WANNA INVITE UP CARTER CAMPBELL THERE.

I NEED THE GROUP PHOTOS.

SO THE INDIVIDUAL WINS.

JOB, BROTHER.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE WITH ALL OUR SECOND PLACE WINNER IS MS. EMMA STARK.

ONE MORE, EMMA.

ONE, TWO.

GOOD JOB.

AND OUR FIRST PLACE WINNER IS MISS ELENA GONZALEZ.

LET'S TAKE A PICTURE.

LEMME COME HERE.

WE NOW HAVE OUR SECOND AND THIRD PLACE FINALIST, WHICH YOU CAN, I'M SORRY, THIRD GRADE.

OUR SECOND PLACE WINNER IS GRIFFIN BONY.

IN WHICH OUR THIRD PLACE IS MS. MERA TI.

GOOD JOB, CONGRAT.

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THANK NOW, OUR FIRST PLACE WINNER IS HARLEY CORTINA.

CONGRATULATIONS.

AND EACH YEAR THE MAYOR HAS HIS CHOICE IN WHICH IT'S THE MAYOR'S CHOICE AWARD, WHICH HE SELECTED NOEL SNAKE.

WE'D LIKE TO ASK ALL, ALL OUR WINNERS TO COME UP SO WE CAN TAKE ONE BIG GROUP PICTURE.

ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS.

APPRECIATE.

NOW, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED AND I APPRECIATE IT.

NOW IT IS A SCHOOL NIGHT, TOMORROW.

YOU ALL HAVE TO SCHOOL.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MOVE THE, TURN IT AROUND A LITTLE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET YOU ALL, UH, PRESENTED WITH YOUR TROPHIES AND ON YOUR WAY HOME.

'CAUSE UH, YOU HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL TOMORROW.

AND THE THING ABOUT GOING TO SCHOOL TOMORROW, YOU CAN SHOW OFF AND TELL EVERYONE YOU GOT A TROPHY.

WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR, UH, STATE COUNCIL MEETING.

[ City Events and Announcements Announcements of upcoming City Events (B. James/S. Gonzalez) Announcements and recognitions by the City Manager (S. Williams) Announcements and recognitions by the Mayor (R. Gutierrez)]

MS. GONZALEZ? YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 27TH WILL BE WALK WITH THE NATURALIST AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK, AND THAT WILL BE FROM THREE 30 TO 4:30 PM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 9TH IS THE NATURE DISCOVERY SERIES.

DISCOVER EARLY TEXAS AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK, AND THAT IS FROM NINE 30 TO 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR VETERANS DAY.

UM, THERE WILL BE THE SHIRT, SLO SELMA, UH, VETERANS DAY CEREMONY.

THAT WILL BE AT NINE O'CLOCK AT 200 SOUTH MAIN STREET IN SLO.

EVERYONE'S WELCOME.

AND THEN FINALLY, OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE, UH, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH AT 6:00 PM HERE.

AND THEY GOT THEIR CAR FITTED AND MADE SURE EVERYTHING WAS SET UP THE RIGHT WAY AND WANTED TO SEND OUT A BIG THANK YOU TO, UH, UNIVERSITY HEALTH MESS, METHODIST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, TEXAS A AND M, AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICES, SHIRTS, PD, CITIZENS POLICE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, AND OF COURSE, IN CRAFT FOR PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER AND MAKING IT A REALLY SUCCESSFUL EVENT WITH, UM, SHIRTS.

THANK YOU, MS. GONZALEZ.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE.

SO, IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAR FIT PROGRAM, CAR FIT EVENT.

WE HAD 22 COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME OUT

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ELEMENTARY ALSO HAD A TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT, AND OFFICER FLOWERS HAD A GREAT TIME OUT THERE VISITING WITH ALL THE FAMILIES AND, AND GETTING TO SEE THEM.

ALSO, IT IS, AS WE'RE ALL AWARE, NATIONAL BREAST CANCER, UH, MONTH.

AND THE, A YOUNG MAN NAMED XANDER CAME BY.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WANTED TO DONATE TO THE FUNDRAISER.

SO DURING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, HE HAD PASSED THE HAT AND DURING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S BLOCK PARTY RAISED $58.

SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO XANDER IN THE LIBRARY.

OF COURSE, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE, UH, TML AWARD, BUT ALSO THEY LAUNCHED THEIR NEW COMMUNITY DRIVEN RESOURCES.

UM, THE SEED, THE SEED LIBRARY HAS A GRAND OPENING THIS PAST WEEKEND ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.

AND THAT WAS, I MEAN, ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 20TH.

AND THAT WAS A BIG SUCCESS.

ALSO.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANNA SHARE THAT I REALLY LIKE GETTING THESE, BUT I'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMENDATIONS AND, AND KUDOS LETTERS AND NOTES FROM CITIZENS OVER THE PAST MONTH.

ONE WAS FROM A RESIDENT, UM, UH, A GENTLEMAN, UM, WHO RIDES HIS BIKE IN THE PARK EVERY WEEKEND, AND HE WANTED TO GIVE A BIG KUDOS TO DARIEN DOUGLAS, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND JUST NOTICED THAT SHE HAS SUCH JOY AND, AND TAKES PRIDE IN WHAT SHE DOES AND DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SO YOU WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER FOR THAT.

AND THEN I GOT A NOTE FROM OUR, OUR OWN MICKEY TURLESKI, WHO LIKES TO COME FREQUENT OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WAS GIVING KUDOS FOR THE POLICE WEBSITE.

SHE HAD GONE ON THERE AND NOTICED THAT IT HAD BEEN UPDATED AND IS VERY EASY TO NAVIGATE AND USE AND WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING IT SO EASY.

ALSO, IN, UM, THE PERMITS DEPARTMENT, WE HAD A, A WOMAN NAMED, UH, TATIANA TREVINO, WHO SENT, WHO WAS IN A BIT OF A RUSH AND HAD GOTTEN IN A BIND AND NEEDED A SELF, UH, SAME DAY INSPECTION OF HER ROOF.

SO THEY OF THE FELT FOR THEIR ROOF SO THEY COULD GET IT GOING, THEIR PROJECT GOING.

AND SHE SPOKE TO MICHELLE, WHO TOOK CARE OF HER AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT GOT CODY TO GO OUT THERE AND HE WORKED IT INTO HIS SCHEDULE TO GET THAT INSPECTION DONE SAME DAY, TO KEEP THEIR PROJECT MOVING AND NOT HAVE ANY DELAYS.

ALSO, I GOT ANOTHER ONE FROM EMMANUEL GARZA, WHO'S A CONTRACTOR, TALKING ABOUT HOW EASY AND HOW RESPONSIVE OUR STAFF IS WHEN, UM, DOING PERMITS FOR RUFUS AS WELL.

AND HE WAS COMMENDING MICHELLE AND WAYLON AND ARMANDO FOR, FOR SUCH EXCELLENT SERVICE.

SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND, AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW OR, UH, COUNCIL KNOW AND EVERYONE KNOW WHAT AN EXCELLENT JOB THEY DO.

THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS. ALL RIGHT.

ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY THE MAYOR.

I HAVE NONE AT THIS POINT.

[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]

NEXT ON THE AGENDAS, THE HEARING, THE RESIDENCE, THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

EACH PERSON IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

NOW WE DO HAVE, UH, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND, UH, YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE.

YOU MAY SPEAK DURING THE HEARING, THE RESIDENCE, OR YOU MAY CHOOSE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING OR YOU MAY SPEAK AT BOTH.

THE OPTION IS YOURS, MAYOR PRO TEMP, PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, DR.

MCGILL VAZQUEZ.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

UH, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.

UH, MY NAME IS DR.

MIGUEL MIGUEL VASQUEZ.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING SHIRK OW CEMETERY.

AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CEMETERY, IT'S THE ONLY PUBLIC CEMETERY IN SHIRTS RIGHT NOW.

I'M ALSO HAPPY TO REPORT THAT SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF SHIRTS, UH, HAVE FOUND US AND HAVE DECIDED TO BUY PLOTS AND, UH, AS WELL AS BEING BURIED, UH, AT THE CEMETERY.

SO THIS MAKES IT NICE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO SAN ANTONIO OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEY'VE BEEN LIVING HERE, THEY'D LIKE TO STAY HERE.

AND SO WE OFFER THAT, UH, CONVENIENCE FOR THEM.

SO ALSO, UM, SINCE RECEIVING THE TEXAS HISTORICAL MARKER LAST YEAR, AS YOU RECALL, THE, UM, THE CEMETERY HAS BECOME A, A DESTINATION POINT, UH, AS WELL.

SO THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO DO WITH THE CEMETERY IS OBVIOUSLY PRESERVE LOCAL TEXAS HISTORY.

AND, UH, IN THAT REGARD, I'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND OTHER HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS, AND THEY, UM, WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH US AND PUT OUR WEBSITE ALONG WITH THEIR WEBSITE.

SO THINGS ARE GOING

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VERY WELL.

AND THE THING THAT I WANTED TO, UH, INVITE YOU TO IS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE, UH, NOT THIS WEEKEND, NEXT WEEKEND.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE THIS INVITATION IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND, UH, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS, UH, ACTUALLY TWO DEDICATIONS, DEDICATION OF A COUNTY HISTORICAL MARKER.

AND WE'RE ALSO, UM, DEDICATING A CHILD'S MEMORIAL.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CHILDREN THAT WERE BURIED AT THIS CEMETERY IN YEARS PAST, GOING BACK 80, 90 YEARS.

AND WE KNOW THAT THE CHILDREN ARE THERE FROM THEIR DEATH CERTIFICATES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A MARKER.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS CREATED ONE BIG MARKER AND PUT ALL THE KIDS' NAMES ON IT SO THAT WE DON'T FORGET THEM.

SO COME ON OUT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, MUNCHIES THE DEDICATION.

UH, MARIACHIS WILL BE THERE.

MAYBE WE WILL PLAY SOME FOR LOS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

IS, UM, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THESE ARE CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY AND INFORMATION PACKETS ARE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA

[ Consent Agenda Items The Consent Agenda is considered self-explanatory and will be enacted by the Council with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless they are removed from the Consent Agenda upon the request of the Mayor or a Councilmember.]

THESE ITEMS REQUIRE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.

ITEM NUMBER ONE MINUTES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, ORDINANCE 24 S 1 56.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 45.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 55.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RES RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 34.

AND ITEM NUMBER SIX, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R 1 27.

COUNSEL, DO ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE ACTION? THE NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

I MOVE.

SECOND.

MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE.

COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 R ONE 20, AUTHORIZING CONTRACT WITH H2O PARTNERS AND PLANNING AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR LOCAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLANS.

[7. Resolution 24-R-120 - Authorizing a contract with H2O Partners for Planning & Management Services for Local Hazard Mitigation Plans Program (S.Williams/G.Rodgers/B.High)]

UH, PROGRAMS. UH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO,

[8. Ordinance 24-S-154 - Conduct a public hearing and consider amendments to Part III of the Schertz Code of Ordinances, Unified Development Code (UDC), to Article 5, Section 21.5.9- Special Districts, and Article 9, Section 21.9.3- Lots, Section 21.9.8- Screening and Fencing, Section 21.9.9- Tree Preservation and Mitigation, Section 21.9.12- Site Plan Process, and Article 16 - Definitions First Reading (B.James/L.Wood/D.Marquez)]

TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 54.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO PART THREE OF THE SHIRTS.

CODE OF ORDINANCES, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC TO SECTION FIVE, SECTION 21.5 0.9 SPECIAL DISTRICTS.

AND ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 21.9 0.3 LOTS, SECTION 21.9 0.8, SCREENING AND FENCING, SECTION 21.9 0.9, TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION SECTION 21.9 0.12.

AND SITE PLAN, PROCESS AND ARTICLE 16 DEFINITIONS.

AND THIS IS OUR FIRST READING.

MS. MARCUS FLOOR IS YOURS.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR MR. WILLIAMS, ORDINANCE 24 S 1 54 PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE FIVE, ARTICLE NINE, AND ARTICLE 16 DAISY MARQUEZ PLANNER.

SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND STAFF PERIODICALLY REVIEWS THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES REVIEWING THE UDC FOR CLARITY AND COHESION.

THESE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS WERE INITIATED BY THE PLANNING DIVISION STAFF AND ARE MEANT TO CLARIFY THE INTENT OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CLEAN UP LINGERING LANGUAGE REMOVED FROM PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS.

SO I'LL JUST GO ONE BY ONE THROUGH EACH ARTICLE.

SO FOR ARTICLE FIVE, WE'RE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS WITHIN SECTION 2159 SPECIAL DISTRICTS TO REMOVE THE PURPOSE AND INTENTS OF THESE SPECIAL DISTRICTS AS THEY CAN NO LONGER BE REQUESTED.

UM, THIS WAS AGRICULTURAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MIXED USE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND DESIGN.

OVERLY DISTRICT ARTICLE NINE AND SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTION 2193.

IT REQUIRED ALL SETBACKS TO BE SHOWN ON PLATS AND DEFINED SETBACKS.

UM, THIS IS NO LONGER CONSISTENT WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT MANUAL REQUIREMENTS AND SETBACKS ARE CLEARLY DEFINED IN ARTICLE 16 DEFINITIONS.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT AND WE'RE REMOVING THE LANGUAGE FROM HERE.

AND THEN AGAIN, ARTICLE NINE, BUT SECTION 2198 SCREENING AND FENCING.

UM, WE WANTED TO JUST MAKE THE UDC MORE CLEAR THAT CHAIN LINK AND SIMILAR FENCING ARE NOT TO HAVE SCREENING ATTACHED.

SO THINK OF CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH THAT PLASTIC THAT PEOPLE

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WEAVE THROUGH.

WE'RE JUST MAKING IT CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT.

BUT ALSO MODIFY LANGUAGE TO BE COHESIVE WITH THE RECENT ARTICLE.

SEVEN, NONCONFORMING AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS UDC AMENDMENTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING MATCHES.

AND THEN SECTION 2199, TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION.

UH, WE ARE REMOVING THE UNDESIRABLE TREES LIST THAT WAS REMOVED WITH THE PRIOR UDC CHANGE.

SO IT'S MENTIONED IN THE UDC, BUT IT NO LONGER EXISTS WITHIN OUR UDC.

AND THEN EXPANSION OF THE EXEMPTED TREES LIST, WHICH PREVENTS THE MITIGATION AND PAYMENT OF INVASIVE TREE SPECIES.

AND THEN SECTION 21 9 12, UH, TO REMOVE APPLICATIONS THAT NO LONGER REQUIRE AN APPROVED SITE PLAN AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

AND THEN REMOVAL OF THE PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN, BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT DOESN'T MATCH WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND THEN ARTICLE 16, UM, WE ADDED IN HEIGHT TO THE DEFINITION OF MIXED USE SELF STORAGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE NUMBER 45 WAS REFER REFERRING TO A 45 MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR THAT USE.

SO WHEN A STAFF LOOKS AT UDC AMENDMENTS, WE LOOK TO UDC SECTION 21 4 7 D FOR THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

SO ONE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, EFFICIENT AND HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

SO STAFF PROPOSES UDC AMENDMENTS FROM TIME TO TIME TO PROACTIVELY BETTER THE UDC THAT CONVERTS THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF SHORTS.

AND THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR CONSISTENCY WITH CHANGES ALREADY MADE WITHIN THE UDC.

AND ADDITIONALLY THEY PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON SECTIONS OF THE UDC USED BY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

UM, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE NINE, SECTION 2199.

UH, TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION ADDS INVASIVE TREE SPECIES TO THE EXEMPT TREE TABLE THAT ARE NOT DESIRABLE AND ARE CLASSIFIED AS AN INVASIVE TO OUR AREA.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AND THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE AMENDMENTS.

AND ADDITIONALLY, STAFF HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TEXAS A AND M FOREST SERVICE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXEMPT TREE SPECIES.

TWO, AN AMENDMENT TO THE TEXAS.

CONSISTENT WITH OTHER POLICIES OF THIS UDC AND CITY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE MEANT TO CLEAN UP LINGERING UDC LANGUAGE THAT HAS REMAINED.

AND TO CLARIFY THE INTENT OF THE UD C3, ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIONS OF THIS UDC AND CITY AND THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THIS UDC AND THE CITY AS THEY'RE MEANT TO HELP KEEP THE UDC CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AMENDMENTS.

AND THE OPERATIONAL VALUES OF THE CITY INCLUDE BEING PROACTIVE AND SERVICE ORIENTED.

AND BY BEING PROACTIVE WITH THESE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS STAFF CAN PROVIDE A BETTER, BETTER EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR OTHER CRITERIA, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.

SO STAFF HAS ENSURE ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THESE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS AND AT THIS TIME HAVE NOT RECEIVED SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE RED LINES FOR EACH SECTION, KIND OF JUST SHOWING YOU HERE FOR 21 9 3 LOTS THAT WE'RE REMOVING LANGUAGE THAT NO LONGER MATCHES WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND THAT IS REDUNDANT FOR 21 9 8 SCREENING AND FENCING.

JUST SHOWING YOU HERE HOW WE ADDED THE LANGUAGE THAT CHAIN LINK OR SIMILAR WOVEN WIRE MESH PROVIDER KNOW SCREENING IS A CHANCE, UH, IS ATTACHED.

MAKING THAT CLEAR SINCE WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH THAT.

AND THEN IN SUBSECTION TWO B, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE SO IT MATCHED WITH OUR NONCONFORMING UDC AMENDMENT AND THE SAME, UM, BUT WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL SUBSECTION OF SCREENING AND FENCING AND SOME CLEANUP AND THEN ANOTHER SUBSECTION B, UM, TO MATCH THE AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS AMENDMENT AS WELL.

AND THEN WITHIN TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ADDED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EXEMPTED TREES.

UM, THE ISSUES THAT ESSENTIALLY IF IT WAS NOT ON THE EXEMPTED TREE LIST, PEOPLE WERE PAYING FOR WHAT SOME MIGHT CONSIDER TRASH TREES.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T MAKING PEOPLE PAY UNNECESSARY FEES.

AND THEN AGAIN, MORE TREES, CLEANUP OF TREE MITIGATION, CLEANING UP AGAIN, MORE SECTIONS THAT WERE REMOVED OR NO LONGER EXIST, MORE CLEANUP.

AND THEN 21 9 12, THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.

HERE YOU CAN SEE WE REMOVED PDD OR SUP REQUIRING A SITE PLAN FOR THOSE PROCESSES THAT WAS REMOVED A WHILE AGO.

AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT OF A PRE-APPLICATION CON CONFERENCE.

WE DO OFFER FREE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, SO DON'T WORRY WE STILL OFFER THOSE.

UM, ANYONE CAN REQUEST THOSE AT ANY TIME.

AND THEN JUST MORE CLEANUP OF LANGUAGE HERE, REMOVING THE ORDINARY IT WAS NOT NECESSARY,

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AND THEN MATCHING LANGUAGE WITH PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT MR. HAAS HAS DONE.

AND THEN HERE'S ARTICLE 16, JUST SHOWING THAT WE ADDED IN HEIGHT TO THE END TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENTS PROMOTE CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE UDC AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CLARITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 24 S 1 54 AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MET ON SEPTEMBER 4TH AND HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH A SIX OH VOTE.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MARCUS.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM MS ON THE AGENDA IS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS? YEAH, I JUST, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION ON THE CHAIN LINK FENCING PORTION? UM, IS THIS, IS THIS STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL CHAIN LINK FENCING? WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAY THERE'S GONNA BE NO COVERING ON CHAIN LINK FENCING, ARE WE REFERRING TO STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL? IT, IT, IT WOULD ALSO BE FOR COMMERCIAL, SIR.

SO, SO DO WE, DO WE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN IF IT'S A CONSTRUCTION AREA, A TEMPORARY CHAIN LINK FENCE VERSUS A PERMANENT FENCE? YES.

SO, UM, THE COVERING ON TOP OF CHAINLINK IS ALLOWED DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, PERIODS.

IT'S PART OF, IT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS.

AND IF IT'S A PERMANENT FENCE, WE'RE ARE, ARE WE SAYING THERE'S NO COVERINGS AT ALL? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT CLEMENS HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT DOWN HERE, UH, WHEN WE SAY NO COVERINGS OR ANYTHING ON THE FENCE ALONG SHIRTS, PARKWAY, THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT SIGNS FOR THEIR STUDENTS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, THAT OBSTRUCTIVE VIEW AND, AND HANG ON THE FENCE.

AND IF YOU LOOK RIGHT BEHIND IT, WE'VE GOT THE BALL FIELD THAT'S GOT COVERING ON THE CHAIN LINK FENCE.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE GOT SOME MUSCLE DOWN ON THE TENNIS COURTS DOWN ON ELBOW.

SO I THINK, I THINK THE ANTENNA IS THE SLATS.

YES.

AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY TWEAK THE WORDING.

SO LONGSTANDING PRACTICE HAS BEEN, YOU CAN'T DO CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH THE PLASTIC SLATS.

SO WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER THE TENNIS COURT MESH TO KEEP THE WIND FROM BLOWING IN OR THE CUPS OR THE SIGNAGE.

UH, WELL LET ME SAY IT'S NOT SIGNAGE.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OH YEAH.

GOING BACK TO THE SCHOOL AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THIS, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NO, THIS IS INTENDED IN MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T ALLOW THE CHAIN LINK WITH SLATS.

IT, IS IT, SO WE CAN CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK? YES.

IS THERE A, UM, SO YOU IN THE, UM, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IT'S FROM TIME TO TIME, ARE THERE, WHAT ARE THE TRIGGERS FOR REVIEWING A UDC? UM, IT JUST DEPENDS IF WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH A SPECIFIC UDC SECTION.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WAS ALL TRIGGERED BECAUSE OF THE TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION.

WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AND PEOPLE, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLARIFIED THAT THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR INVASIVE TREES AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN EXEMPTION IN OUR UDC FOR THAT, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ALL COVERED.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS A TRIGGER.

UM, UM, Y'ALL, YOU ALL CAN ALSO, UM, REQUEST US TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE UDC.

SO A LOT OF THE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THE PAVER, THE POOL, THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THAT'LL PROMPT A UDC AMENDMENT.

SO POLICY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

UH, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHAT IT IS, IT'S STAFF FINDING THINGS THAT CREATE CONFUSION OR SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN OR GENERAL POLICY DIRECTION WE HAVE FROM COUNCIL THAT HEY, WE WANT TO BE WORKING THIS WAY, THIS IS DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

AND THEN STAFF TAKES A CRACK AT CHANGING THE LANGUAGE TO KIND OF MOVE US THERE.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

THE OTHER IS, IF WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS OR RESIDENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING, THAT'LL PROMPT IT.

FOR EXAMPLE AS WELL.

IF WE HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHERE WE HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM DEVELOPERS, OFTEN THAT'LL PROMPT US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

SO I'VE SEEN NOTHING BUT PROFESSIONALISM FROM YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

BUT IS THERE LIKE A FLOW CHART? SO WHEN DEL, EVERY NOW AND THEN I'LL SEE A DEVELOPER AND THEY'LL SAY, OH, SHIRTS, IT'S DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.

AND I THINK WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY LAST, LAST MEETING, BUT IS THERE LIKE A FLOW CHART THAT A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS THESE, IT'S LIKE A RECIPE, THESE ARE THE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE TO IT.

IT IT, THERE IS, AND AGAIN, ONE THING THAT WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT WITH THIS IS THERE ARE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT FLOWCHARTS.

SO IT'S NOT A SINGLE FLOW CHART, RIGHT? OKAY.

SOMEBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THE FIRST THING THEY SAY IS, HEY, I WANT TO DEVELOP, UH, AN OFFICE BUILDING ON THIS PIECE OF LAND.

IF THAT PIECE OF LAND IS ZONED SO THAT IT DOESN'T ALLOW OFFICE, THAT'S

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A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN IF THEY WALK IN AND SAY, I WANNA BUY A PIECE OF PLATTED LAND THAT'S ALREADY ZONED.

MM-HMM THEN IT'S A BUILDING.

SO YEAH, THEY, THERE ARE FLOWCHARTS FOR PROCESSES, BUT IT VARIES BASED ON THE SITUATION.

IT ALSO CAN VARY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODES OR WHETHER THEY DON'T WANNA MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODES.

AND THEY WANT TO EITHER ASK FOR VARIANCE, THEY NEED TO DO A REZONING, THEY NEED TO GO TO, TO PNZ OR, OR STAFF WAIVER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, AND I WANNA SAY THIS, WHILE WE TOOK THE REQUIREMENT OUT FOR A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, THE BEST THING A DEVELOPER CAN DO IS HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WHERE THEY COME IN WITH SOME INFORMATION, SOME LEVEL OF INFORMATION SO THAT, THAT WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

UM, SAME THING, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE SORT OF SMALLER BUSINESS OWNERS, ENTREPRENEURS AND HOW WE HELP HANDHOLD THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, AS AN EXAMPLE, OFTEN THEY, THEY HAVE A GRAND VISION, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY THE FUNDS TO GET TO THE GRAND VISION RIGHT AWAY.

AND SO IT'S A STEP PROCESS OF, OKAY, WELL LET'S START BY DOING THIS.

THIS CAN GET YOU IN, GET YOU OPEN FOR A CO AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DO THIS AND THEN YOU CAN DO THIS.

THAT THOSE ARE WHAT WE RUN INTO AS WELL.

AND SO THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING ON BOTH THOSE IS, IS SUPER HELPFUL.

AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY WHERE OUR PRO PROCESS IS MAYBE, AND IT IS LONGER, IS WE REQUIRE THE CERTIFICATION.

SO BASED ON THE CHANGE TO STATE LAW THAT STARTS THOSE CLOCKS TICKING.

IN ORDER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION.

SO BASICALLY YOU SORT OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ON THE FRONT END, LET US WORK WITH THEM, GET THE CERTIFICATION.

ONCE YOU GET THE CERTIFICATION, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY SUBMIT YOUR PLAT APPLICATION AND YOU'RE IN AND APPROVED WITHIN 30 DAYS.

BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE'VE DONE ALL THE WORK ON THE FRONT END.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES IN TALKING TO PEOPLE, IT SEEMS TO BE A LONGER PROCESS AND IN A WAY IT IS BECAUSE OF THOSE STEPS.

I DON'T KNOW THEY THAT THEY ADD THAT MUCH TIME.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU OFTEN HAVE ARE ISSUES OUTSIDE OF STAFF'S CONTROL.

SO THEY'RE HUNG UP WITH ANOTHER ENTITY OR ANOTHER AGENCY.

AND THEN CERTAINLY I THINK THERE ARE TIMES WHERE STAFF IS SLOW GETTING COMMENTS OUT.

IT'S A CONFUSING SITUATION, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING TO SMOOTH THE PROCESS OUT.

WE CERTAINLY CAN DO IF, IF THAT SORT OF MAKES SENSE.

YES, SIR, IT DOES.

LAST QUESTION.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO CUT DOWN A TREE? LIKE A PROTECTED TREE? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PER INCH OR? YEAH, SO IT DEPENDS IF IT'S PROTECTED OR HERITAGE, IT'S EITHER A ONE TO ONE RATIO, SO ONE INCH IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR IT'S A ONE TO THREE RATIO AND IT'S ONE INCH FOR $300.

THINKING ABOUT CUTTING DOWN TREES FROM THE HOUSE.

NO SIR.

NOT RUN OUT AT THAT PLACE.

COUNCIL HOUSE WANTS TO GET SOME PHOTOS OF TREES, PLEASE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

A TIME FOR OPENING CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO.

NO, WE DON'T MARK TIME.

THE TIME AND THEN WE NEVER HAVE OPEN WITH A TIME MORE OR START, START OR COMPLETION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WAIT.

YES, DID WRITE IT DOWN.

OH, IT IS WRITTEN DOWN.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 24 S 1 54 SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS WITH ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE TO CLARIFY THE CHAIN LINK FENCING.

DOES THAT NEED TO BE PART OF THE MOTION? IT CERTAINLY CAN BE, BUT I THINK STAFF UNDERSTOOD THAT AS A DIRECTION WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT EITHER WAY.

THEN I I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD IS TO, UH, UH, TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE TO CLARIFY THE SHANG LINK FENCING.

YOU'LL HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, SECOND MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

WE'LL VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT FIRST.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE CAN, UH, PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.

NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN AND COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.

COUNSEL, IF YOU CAN PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.

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[9. Ordinance 24-S-162 - Conduct a public hearing to consider closing and abandoning to the abutting property owner a portion of Troy Lane Right-of-Way, from Wiederstein Road, north to the end (approximately 600 feet) and a portion of Shady Lane Right-Of-Way from Wiederstein Road, north to the end (approximately 600 feet); and to establish an effective date hereof First Reading (B.James/K.Woodlee/J.Nowak)]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 62.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CLOSING AND ABANDONING TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNED OWNER, A PORTION OF TROY LANE RIGHT AWAY FROM WHEELER, STEIN ROAD NORTH TO THE END OF APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET.

AND A PORTION OF SHADY LANE RIGHT AWAY FROM WEER STEIN ROAD NORTH TO THE END, APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET.

AND TO ESTABLISH AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREOF.

THIS IS OUR FIRST READING, MR. NOVAK CHAIR'S YOURS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, KEEPING WITH MY TRADITION.

START OFF WITH A QUESTION.

WHY WAS CINDERELLA NOT GOOD AT SOCCER? SHE'S ALWAYS RUNNING FROM THE BALL.

AND GOOD EVENING.

WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR AND THIS IS A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT OF THE SUBDIVISION WHERE FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED, IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

THIS IS A VERY LARGE SUBDIVISION THAT WAS DONE A LONG TIME AGO THAT ACTUALLY SPANS BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS OF WHAT IS NOW SHIRTS.

AND IN THE MIDDLE THERE KIND OF, UH, ON THE SHEET SOUTH OF WHERE THE RED OUTLINE IS, IT WAS THE STREET WAS KNOWN BY A DIFFERENT NAME THAN STEIN.

IT'S STEIN NOW.

AND YOU KIND OF SEE THE TWO LINES IN THE MIDDLE THERE WHERE SHIRTZ PARKWAY IS, BUT IT WASN'T REALLY CALLED SHIRTZ PARKWAY BY THIS ORIGINAL PLAT.

WE ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.

THIS IS JUST A CLOSER LOOK OF THAT AREA.

THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE THE TWO STREET SEGMENTS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO ABANDON OR VACATE, AND THEY'D BE BECOME PART OF THIS SINGLE LARGER LOT THAT WILL BE OUTLINED IN RED IN THE AERIAL VIEW ON, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SIDE OF THE FIRE STATION FOUR.

UM, THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO REPLANT THE AREA INTO ONE SINGLE LARGE LOT.

WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

I ONLY HEARD FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PARCELS TO THE NORTH, THE NURSERY.

AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY'RE IN FAVOR.

THEY SUPPORT THIS, UH, PROPOSED, UH, VACATION THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. NOVAK.

ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDAS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, RIGHT? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 S 1 62.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO.

ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.

WE'LL MOVE ON.

WE HAVE, UH,

[10. Workshop on design and location options for the Municipal Complex Electronic Sign (B.James/D.Hardin)]

TWO WORKSHOPS.

THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10, STREET PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE WORKSHOP.

MR. NOVAK, YOU'RE GONNA ENTERTAIN THIS WITH A SECOND JOKE.

WELL, I HAVE A SECOND ONE, BUT I WAS TOLD IT WAS TOO EASY TO GUESS.

SO I I THINK ALL FORGO THAT ONE.

UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO HEAR IT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN IT.

AND, AND MAYOR, AS A, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE QUARTERLY UPDATE THAT STREETS AND, UM, THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING IS DOING TO OKAY, KEEP EVERYBODY ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH STREET MAINTENANCE IN OUR STREET PROJECTS.

MATERIAL UNDERNEATH AND PUTTING A NEW LAYER ON THAT ONE.

UM, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SPAM PROGRAM.

THE RESURFACING PROJECT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

IT WAS A, A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WAS AWARDED ON THE 15TH.

R JONES IS THE, IS THE CONTRACTOR.

AND THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT WAS 2.4 MILLION.

THE EXPECTED CONSTRUCTION DURATION IS ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

IN TERMS OF WHEN IT'S GONNA GET STARTED, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT START DATE YET.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET HIS BONDS AND HIS INSURANCE INFORMATION TO PURCHASING.

SO THE CONTRACT CAN BE EXECUTED.

HE DOES WANT TO GET GOING ON THE PROJECT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE'LL BE SCHEDULING A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH HIM TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WEEK.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SCHEDULE AND WE'LL PUT THAT INFORMATION ON, ON OUR DASHBOARD ONCE WE, ONCE WE HAVE IT, THE REHABILITATION PROJECT, THAT'S MORE EFFORT THAN JUST RESURFACING ON THE STREETS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TAKING OFF ALL THE PAVEMENT ACKING TREATING THE

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WE'RE FINALIZING OUR BID PACKAGE RIGHT NOW.

WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DONE AND START ADVERTISING BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

AND WE ANTICIPATE BEING HAVING A AWARD RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IN NOVEMBER.

SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON THAT ONE.

AND THIS INFORMATION WILL BE, OR IS AVAILABLE ON OUR DASHBOARD.

IF YOU CLICK ON THE 2024 SPAM REHABILITATION, IT HIGHLIGHTS ALL THE STREETS THAT ARE IN THAT, UH, PROGRAM.

IT PROVIDES YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION.

NOW THIS INFORMATION IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DATE, BUT WE WILL BE ADDING MORE INFORMATION TO THAT.

I'M SORRY, I CLICKED ON THE REHABILITATION, UH, UH, PROJECT HERE FIRST.

UM, BUT AS, AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION, LIKE CONTRACTOR INFORMATION START DATE AND ALL THAT, WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT IN THERE AND WE'LL BE UPDATING THE DESCRIPTION AS TIME GOES ON.

SO THAT'S THE REHABILITATION STREETS, AND HERE'S THE RESURFACING STREETS ALL HIGHLIGHTED.

AND YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON, ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS, THE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHICH STREETS WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH WITH THIS PROGRAM.

GOOD EVENING.

I'LL GO AHEAD, UH, LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD BEFORE WE JUMP BACK INTO THE PRESENTATION.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE STREET'S MAINTENANCE DASHBOARD.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE THE TOTAL NUMBERS.

UH, BUT AGAIN, IF RECALL FROM LAST TIME, UH, JUST TO FILTER OUT THIS LAST QUARTER, WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING ON, THAT'S THE INFORMATION OF VALUE.

SO 155 POTHOLES, 16 STREET ISSUES.

UH, AGAIN, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE IS THE, THE POTHOLE IS AN AREA, UH, ONE SQUARE YARD OR LESS, ROUGHLY THREE BY THREE OR LESS.

STREET ISSUES ARE LARGER STREET ISSUES.

UH, TYPICALLY ASPHALT IN NATURE, UH, SIDEWALK ISSUES OR OTHER, UH, CONCRETE WORK.

AND THEN OTHER ISSUES ARE JUST KIND OF ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS WE WORK ON THAT JUST, JUST TAKE UP TIME.

UH, OF COURSE WE GOT LIMITED CREWS, SO, UH, WHEN THEY'RE OUT WORKING ON THESE OTHER ISSUES, IT TAKES AWAY FROM, UH, THE SPECIFIC ASPHALT WORK.

UH, I'LL ALSO MENTION AS I'M GETTING BACK INTO THE PRESENTATION HERE, WE DID, UH, GO LIVE AS OF THIS WEEK, UH, THANKS TO OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT.

WE GOT IT ON THE WEBSITE.

SO IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE STREETS AND DRAINAGE, UH, MAIN PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE, THERE'S A LINK FOR THIS DASHBOARD.

SO IT WAS AVAILABLE ON, UH, AS A LINK FROM THE WEBSITE.

UH, SO AGAIN, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, SO OUR GOAL HERE IS, UH, YOU CAN SEE TWO OF THOSE PATCHES ARE THE SQUARED OUT SOME, WE USE A POTHOLE TRUCK FOR ONE OF 'EM, UH, JUST AS UPM MATERIALS, THIS IS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING THE DIFFERENCE.

SO A POTHOLE PATCH IS, UH, JUST THAT WHERE WE PUT THE PATCH MATERIAL IN.

WE DON'T PREP THE HOLE AT ALL.

THE POTHOLE REPAIR IS, UH, IS WHY WE GOT THE TRUCK, RIGHT? SO WE CAN, WE CAN CUT IT OUT, SQUARE IT OFF, AND THAT LASTS A LOT LONGER.

AND SO, JUST THE TERMINOLOGY WE USE, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO WORK OURSELVES OUT OF, UH, WORK OURSELVES OUT OF DOING POTHOLES, RIGHT? SO WE HOPE AS THIS GOES ALONG, WE'RE DOING LESS AND LESS POTHOLES.

UH, BUT ALSO, UH, THERE ARE FULL REPAIRS INSTEAD OF UPM.

WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.

SO WE'VE DONE SOME PATCHING STILL JUST TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND, UH, ESPECIALLY ON BUSIER STREETS AND THAT.

UH, BUT JUST EXAMPLES OF TWO TYPES OF PATCHES.

UH, SO AGAIN, SOME THE CONCRETE AND OTHER REPAIRS, UH, SUCH A DRIVEWAY.

UH, WE WORKED ON A SIDEWALK, UH, THAT, THAT WAS DONE, UM, AS REPAIRS FOR, UH, WATER MAIN BREAKS.

UH, AND THEN OTHER REPAIRS OR, UH, RAILING MAINTAINED RAILING AND, UH, STRIPING WORK.

THIS IS THE STRIPE WORK AT, UH, CURTIS WITH A STOP AHEAD THAT WE DID, UH, THIS LAST QUARTER.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON.

EXAMPLES, AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR, UH, BIGGER ASPHALT JOBS THAT FIT IN THAT STREETS MAINTENANCE REPAIR.

UH, SO, UH, ALSO AS PART OF THIS IS OUR CRACK SEAL PROGRAM.

SO WE DID DO 1.33 MILES OF CRACK CEILING THIS LAST QUARTER.

UH, TYPICALLY THAT SLOWS DOWN OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS, UH, 'CAUSE IT STAYS HOTTER AND WE DON'T, UH, WE DON'T WANT IT TO TRACK IF A VEHICLE GOES THROUGH RIGHT BEHIND THERE.

SO GENERALLY YOU'LL SEE, UH, LOWER NUMBERS ON THAT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

AND THEN, UH, WE PICK IT UP IN THE COOLER ONE OF THE YEAR.

UH, SO AGAIN FROM, UH, WHEN WE SORTED THE, UH, DASHBOARD THERE.

UH, SO THE 16 STREET ISSUES AND THE 155, AND THOSE ARE FROM THE LAST QUARTER.

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THAT'S 12 TONS OF THE POTHOLE PATCH MATERIAL AND THEN 226 TONS OF ASPHALT.

AND THEY JUST KIND OF A LIST OF THE STREET REPAIRS THERE.

UH, JUST CASE ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN ANY SPECIFIC ONE, THESE CAN BE LEVEL UPS AROUND MANHOLES.

UH, IT COULD BE WATERLINE UH, REPAIRS FROM WATERLINE BREAKS IN THE STREET, UH, OR JUST, UH, LARGER AREAS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, ALLIGATOR CRACKING OR, UH, POTHOLES THAT ARE IN A CLOSE SCENARIO.

WE JUST CUT A BIGGER AREA OUT.

AND, UH, THIS, THE PICTURE HERE, UH, JUST TO MENTION IS THAT'S THE SCENIC LAKE DRIVE.

AND SO NOT SURE EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH SCENIC LAKE DRIVE, BUT THAT IS A, WAS A LARGELY A BASE ROAD AND WE PUT SOME ASPHALT MILLINGS DOWN SO IT HAS A STREET REPAIR 'CAUSE THE SIZE OF THE QUANTITIES, BUT JUST A DIFFERENT ONE THAN WE NORMALLY, YOU NORMALLY SEE.

UH, ALSO, UH, SO WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THE SIDEWALK INVENTORY.

SO WE DO HAVE WORKED ON THIS DASHBOARD.

UM, IT IS, IT IS NOT ON THE WEBSITE YET, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING.

SO SOME OF THIS DATA CAME FROM THE 2019 PCI STUDY.

UM, AND, AND EARLIER DATA, UH, I'LL ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE.

UH, THIS, THIS INFORMATION WAS NEVER, UH, I'LL JUST SAY IT WAS NEVER VALIDATED AT THE TIME.

AND THEN ALSO IT'S VERY INCOMPLETE, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S LARGE AREAS OF THE, UH, CITY THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.

AND SO WE, WE'VE CONCENTRATE ON WORKING ON IT.

TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO VALIDATE THIS INFORMATION.

UH, WILL SAY THAT FOR, UH, KIND OF THIS PART OF TOWN 3 0 0 9 TO THE CREEK, UH, WE'VE VALIDATED A LOT OF THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

UH, TYPICALLY HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE'RE, UH, CONCENTRATING ON RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER THEY'RE SIDEWALK THERE OR NOT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE MAJOR CONCERN, NOT NECESSARILY THE REPAIRS IN.

WE DO HAVE CONTRACT DOLLARS, UH, SET ASIDE TO DO REPAIR WORK.

A COUPLE ON-CALL CONTRACTORS.

GENERALLY HOW WE HANDLE THOSE.

UH, ALSO THEY SOMETIMES IF THERE'S A MAIN BREAK AND WE HAVE TO CUT OUT A SECTION OR A SEWER REPAIR, WE'LL HANDLE THAT WITH CONTRACT WE MIGHT DO IN IN-HOUSE AS WELL.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS, UH, OUR, OUR FIRST, UH, RUN THROUGH THE CITY IS JUST KIND OF DETERMINE IS THERE A SIDEWALK THERE OR NOT.

SO ALL THE RED DASH LINES IS MISSING SIDEWALK, RIGHT? THERE'S NO SIDEWALK IN THOSE AREAS.

IF IT'S A, UH, A YELLOW OR OR GREEN LINE THAT'S, UH, IT'S A COMPLIANT OR NON-COMPLIANT, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO STUCK ON THAT.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF FACTORS WE CAN PICK.

WE HAVE NOT VALIDATED ALL THAT INFORM, UH, INFORMATION YET FOR EVERYTHING.

UH, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A RED DASH LINE, THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK AND IF THERE'S A LINE THERE, THEN THERE IS A SIDEWALK.

UH, MAYBE A DA COMPLIANT MAY NOT BE.

WE'RE WE'LL WORK THROUGH AND ADD THOSE OTHER FACTORS AS WE CAN VALIDATE THIS INFORMATION GOING FORWARD.

UH, SO AGAIN, KIND OF THIS THE, UH, TOWN PART OF TOWN HERE CLOSER TO CITY HALL, WE'VE DONE ALL THE WAY UP TO ABOUT, UH, STEIN ROAD AND THEN PORTIONS, UH, NORTH CLIFF AS WELL.

UH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE UH, KIND OF THE BULK OF THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY MISSING SIDEWALK, RIGHT? AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T QUITE VALIDATED ALL OF THAT.

AND SO WE, UH, GIS MADE THIS JUST QUICK DASHBOARD FOR US.

UH, JUST SO WE, UM, WE HAVE THE LARGE SCALE NUMBERS SO WE KNOW WHAT THAT AND SO OF, OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IN THERE, AGAIN, INCOMPLETE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 301,000 FEET OF CURRENT SIDEWALK AND ABOUT 48,500 FEET OF THAT IS MISSING.

WE HAVE MISSING SECTIONS, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, WE'RE ALREADY NORTH OF, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY $10 MILLION ON SIDEWALKS IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE MISSING PORTION, UH, MISSING PORTION SO FAR.

OF COURSE THAT NUMBER VARIES WIDELY BASED ON WHAT'S THERE.

A LOT OF OLDER PARTS OF TOWN HAVE METER BOXES IN THE SIDEWALKS.

THEY HAVE POLES THAT WE NEED TO MOVE BECAUSE OF THAT.

UH, DRIVEWAYS AREN'T COMPLIANT, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S HARD TO COME UP WITH THE EXACT FIGURE FOR NOT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, 48,000 FEET OF MISSING SIDEWALK SO FAR.

SO, UM, WORKING ON VALIDATING THAT HOPEFULLY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE THE LAST, UH, NOT TOO LONG AFTER THE LAST MEETING.

AND SO IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT SO FAR.

WE, UH, UH, TALKING ABOUT MAYBE, UH, GETTING THIS ON THE WEBSITE.

SO WE'LL POST IT AND THEN, UH, WE'LL JUST HAVE AVAILABILITY AND UH, WE'LL GIVE INFORMATION OUT.

SO FOLKS WANNA SAY, HEY, I KNOW THERE'S SIDEWALK MISSING THIS SECTION OR SOMETHING.

THEY CAN GIVE US A CALL.

PUBLIC WORKS, WE'LL START VALIDATING THE REST OF THIS MAP.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A GOOD MAP GOING FORWARD.

AND THEN WE CAN, UH, DRILL DOWN INTO GREATER DETAIL, WHETHER IT'S, UH, A DA COMPLIANT, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, TO CURRENT STANDARDS, A DA COMPLIANT, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UH, COMPLIANT WITH OUR EXISTING STANDARDS.

'CAUSE WE DO HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS IN SOME CASE AS WELL AS, UH, THE WIDTH OF SIDEWALKS SO WE KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

YES SIR.

SO 301,000 OF

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SIDEWALK.

ALL THE NUMBERS ARE BIG, WHETHER IT'S POTHOLES OR SIDEWALK.

WHAT'S THE A, LIKE, I'M TRYING TO GET A GAUGE ABOUT IS THAT A WHOLE LOT OR IS THAT ABOUT THE NORM? UM, SO, UH, WE CONCENTRATED ON THE SPECIFIC, UH, FOR THE SIDEWALKS WE CONCENTRATED ON THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS.

'CAUSE UM, YOU, NOWADAYS WE HAVE A STANDARD OF WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSE, RIGHT? IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE CASE BEFORE.

AND SO A LOT OF THESE AREAS ARE THE ONES WE'RE JUST GONNA BE MISSING ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

SO I NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY NORM OF IT DEPENDS WHAT TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THESE ARE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS FROM, FROM, SO BASED UPON THE DASHBOARD, I COULD GO IN THERE AND JUST SORT OF SEE HOW MANY KILOMETERS OF SIDEWALKS WAS DONE FISCAL YEAR 24 OR FISCAL YEAR 23, OR CALENDAR YEAR 23, OR WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO FOR THE SIDEWALK MAP, THIS IS JUST A CURRENT MAP OF WHAT SIDEWALKS ARE MISSING AND WHAT SIDEWALKS ARE THERE.

THAT'S, YEAH, I, I, I THINK I CAN MAYBE CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS IS, WAS NOT PUT INTO A LATER DATE THAN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE OLDER PART OF TOWN WAS DONE.

SO IT'S MORE OF A CIP ITEM THAN IT IS A, A MAINTENANCE ITEM.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND PROBABLY BOND THAT AND IT'LL BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I'M SURE TO IF WE WERE TO GO AND INSTALL ALL OF THEM EVERYWHERE.

UM, AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK INTO THE CIP AND PLAN FOR IN THE FUTURE.

IS IT A LOT, I MEAN, IT'S RELATIVE TO THE COMMUNITY YEP.

COMPARED TO SOME COMMUNITIES, IT'S NOT.

BUT AS WE BUILD OUT, IT'LL BECOME A SMALLER AND SMALLER PERCENTAGE, BUT WE DO WANT TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS THOSE GAPS AT SOME POINT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE OF MAINTENANCE ON SIDEWALKS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF IS THAT WE, AS WE DO IT, WE HAVE AREAS WHERE IT'S BROKEN OR IT'S JUST NOT HELD UP OVER THE YEARS AND, AND WE'RE REPAIRING THOSE.

SO I, I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION.

THERE'S, THERE'S A BIG CHUNK OF WHAT THEY'RE INVENTORYING NOW THAT'LL ACTUALLY GO INTO THE CIP AND WE'LL FIND WAYS TO TRY AND FUND THAT.

AND THEN ALSO WE'LL MEASURE OUR REPAIRS AS WE GO ALONG.

DOES THAT CLARIFY THAT? THAT CLARIFIES A LOT.

YEAH.

THAT'S LAYMAN'S TERMS. I APPRECIATE IT.

MM-HMM.

UM, THE OTHER, SO THE BROKEN SIDEWALKS, THEY WERE DUE TO YOU NAMED TWO OR THREE THINGS, REASONS WHY THERE'S A BROKEN SIDEWALK.

UH, BROKEN SIDEWALKS, GROUND SHIFT IN TREE ROOTS IS VERY COMMON.

ESTABLISHED AREAS, TREE ROOTS, UH, BREAK THE SIDEWALKS, UH, JUST YEAH, SHIFT IN, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF ROAD MAINTENANCE AND THE POTHOLES.

I JUST WANT TO THROW ONE MORE COMMENT IN THERE.

AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED LARRY TO, TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND TO, TO REPORT ON IT EACH MONTH IS SO THEN WE CAN START MEASURING THAT PROGRESS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST ON KEEPING TRACK HOW MANY POTHOLES ARE WE REPAIR OR PATCH REPAIRS ARE WE DOING OR OVERLAYS, ET CETERA, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING THAT BASELINE OF MEASUREMENTS.

SO OVER THE YEARS WE CAN, WE CAN TRACK THAT AND TRACK OUR PERFORMANCE AND, AND, AND LOOK AT WHEN WE REDO THE PCI OF, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, IN SOME FUTURE DATE, WE CAN MEASURE WHETHER WE'RE BEING EFFECTIVE WITH OUR EXTENSION OF THE LIFE OF THE, OF THE STREETS SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, HE PUT IT BEST, BUT I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR TRENDING DATA, RIGHT? BUT Y'ALL ARE ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHING THE BASELINE NOW LOOKING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

HEY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MSO? UH, I WAS GONNA SAY SO, BUT STEVE PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED THAT.

I JUST MAYBE ON THE FUTURE REPORTS JUST GETTING A, A, AN AN IDEA OF WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE DUE EQUIPMENT HAS PROVIDED IN TERMS OF, UH, INCREASE IN REPAIRS AND ALL.

HAVE A COMMENT TO SAY, I LIKE THIS SLIDE.

AND I, I WILL SAY, AND I'LL THROW THIS IN THERE, THE, THE EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO A PATCH REPAIR, WHEREAS WE'RE JUST KIND OF THROWING AND GOING WITH COLD MIX BEFORE, RIGHT? AND WE WERE JUST FILLING POTHOLES.

WHEREAS NOW THEY CAN COME IN, THEY CAN CUT A SQUARE AND, AND PATCH IT, AND IT'S GONNA LAST EXPONENTIALLY LONGER THAN IF YOU JUST THROW COLD MIX IN A, IN A HOLE.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OURSELVES OUT OF THE POTHOLE VISIT.

WE DO FULL REPAIRS, THEN YEAH, WE HAVE MUCH LESS TO DO.

BUT I WILL MENTION ALSO, I KIND OF MENTIONED IT QUICKLY IN THE, UH, OF COURSE WE CONCENTRATE ON DIFFERENT TIMES THIS TIME OF YEAR, DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR BASED ON THAT.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO ESTABLISH KIND OF A, A WHOLE YEAR OF DATA AND THEN WE CAN REALLY START, UM, COMPARING IT, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN QUITE A BIT FROM LAST TIME ON, ON THE CRACK SEAL AND ON THE, ON THE POTHOLE REPAIRS, UH, BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF PATCHING LAST TIME AND NOW WE'RE DOING REPAIRS.

SO THEY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THEY'RE MORE PERMANENT.

SO, UH, WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO ESTABLISH A MORE THAN A FEW QUARTERS BEFORE WE CAN REALLY COMPARE TO THE DATA AND, AND HONESTLY, UH, THE HOPE WOULD BE IS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THE NUMBERS DECLINE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF REPAIRS WE'RE DOING 'CAUSE WE'RE TAKING BETTER CARE OF OUR STREETS AND ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AND MAKING IT LAST LONGER.

COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DO

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I LIKE THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT ROAD THAT THEY TRAVEL IS THE ONE THEY USE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT SOME OTHER PART OF OUR CITY OR SOME OTHER ROAD THAT THEY NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

UH, AND THIS GIVES US A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WAS REPAIRED, HOW MUCH WAS REPAIRED, HOW MANY POTHOLES WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

IT REALLY REFLECTS ON THE WORK THAT OUR CITY STAFF IS DOING.

AND I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS PRESENTATION, APPRECIATED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO.

LET'S MOVE ON

[11. Street Preservation and Maintenance Workshop (B.James/L. Busch/K. Woodlee/J. Nowak)]

TO OUR NEXT PRO, UH, WORKSHOP.

ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, WORKSHOP ON DESIGN AND LOCATION OPTIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX ELECTRONIC SIGN.

JAMES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

BRIAN JAMES, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

UM, SO YOU MAY RECALL, UH, I THINK BACK IN SEPTEMBER WE CAME TO COUNSEL, UH, WITH THE CONTRACT TO, UM, REPLACE THE ELECTRONIC SIGN.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, IT'S THE CURRENT ELECTRONIC SIGN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T SEE, LET'S SEE, BLUE.

IF WE CAN GET IT UP FOR COUNSEL TO SEE NOW WE CAN SEE THANK YOU.

ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENT SIGN LOOKING LIKE IT CURRENTLY DOES NOT WORKING? THE LEFT IS WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE AFTER THE FACT WHERE WE CHOP THE TOP OFF, LEAVE THE BASE THERE.

AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, THE ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT SIGN LOCATION, IT IS UNDER THE POWER LINES FOR GVC, WHICH IS A PROBLEM.

UH, GVC HAS LONG SAID, YEAH, WE DON'T LIKE IT.

YOU CAN KEEP IT THERE, BUT ONCE THE THING STOPS WORKING AND YOU NEED TO DO A MAJOR OVERHAUL, REALLY NEED TO MOVE IT AND REPLACE IT AND, AND IT'S QUIT WORKING, SO IT HAS TO BE REPLACED.

SO THE IDEA IS TO, TO ADJUST IT.

SO THE TWO QUESTIONS THOUGH ARE WHAT DO WE WANT THE NEW SIGN EXACTLY TO SAY? UM, AND I'VE GOT FOUR EXAMPLES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE NEW SIGN WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT THE QUESTION IS REALLY WHAT DO WE WANT THE LETTERING TO BE? SO IN THE FIRST EXAMPLE, CITY OF SHIRTZ COMPLEX, 1400 SHIRTS, PARKWAY BENEATH IT.

NEXT ONE IS HAL BALDWIN, MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, CITY OF SHIRTS, 1400 SHIRTS, PARKWAY.

IT'S GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SOME WAYS I THINK IT LOOKS TOO BUSY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, CITY OF SHIRTS, 1400 SHIRTS, PARKWAY.

AND THAT IS, I THINK THE CLEANEST OF THE SIGNS.

UM, IN, IN THE ONE I TEND TO PREFER.

A COUPLE THINGS TO SORT OF LET YOU KNOW WITH THE, WITH THE, THE SIGNS, UM, IS IF YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTE WE'LL STILL HAVE THIS ONE THAT SAYS HOW BALD ONE ON IT AND THEN THE BIG OR TYPICAL STONE SIGN, RIGHT? KIND OF IN FRONT OF PD THAT ALSO SAYS HOW BALD ONE ON IT.

SO I'M NOT SURE THE NEED TO FIT HOW BALD ONE ON IT IS REALLY NECESSARY.

AND SO I THINK FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE FEEL LIKE THIS LAST ONE IS KIND OF THE CLEANEST SIGN.

REMINDS YOU IT'S CITY OF SHIRTS, WHICH WE WANT FOLKS TO KNOW, HEY, THE THINGS WE'RE ADVERTISING TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS COMING FROM THE CITY, GIVES OUR ADDRESS REAL BIG.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S THOUGHT, BUT REALLY LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL IF THERE WAS A, WHICH YOU PREFERRED OR IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THIS ONE THAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING.

THANK YOU MR. JAMES.

UH, WE'LL START OFF.

I'LL START OFF.

I LIKE THIS ONE HERE.

IT'S NICE, IT'S VERY CLEAN.

THE CITY OF ASSURE STANDS OUT.

UH, AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, HAL BALDWIN IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, SO WE STILL KEEP THE NAME OF THE COMPLEX IN THERE.

SO THAT IS, UH, THAT IS THE ONE I I PREFER BECAUSE UH, I LOVE THE LARGER LETTERS OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS, SO, OKAY.

BUT WITH THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD LOVE THIS ONE.

SIMPLE DOES WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO.

AND WE DON'T NEED HAL, WE HAVE HAL BALL ONE ON TWO OF THEM.

I THINK IT WORKS.

I LOVE IT.

IT'S CLEAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

I AGREE.

THIS ONE.

THE SIGN IN THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS AGAIN, JUST OUT FRONT TO THE RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL CONCUR.

WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN'S, UH, APPROVAL ON THAT ONE, TWO, AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO AGREE.

OKAY, SO MAYOR PRO 10 WESTBROOK, ANY COMMENTS? I AGREE.

THERE WE GO.

I THINK UNANIMOUS.

NOW WE HAVE CONSENSUS .

ALL RIGHT, SO THE, THE OTHER PART OF THIS WAS WHEN WE STARTED MARKING, AND SOME OF YOU, IF YOU WANDER OUR PARKING LOT OUT FRONT, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED SOME, SOME MARKING ON THE, THE PARKING LOT.

AGAIN, INITIALLY WE WERE THINKING TO TRY TO PUT

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THE WAY YOU FACE THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS THAT BASED ON WHERE THE GVC LINES ARE AND SOME OF THE CLEARANCE, THE WAY THE SIGN ACTUALLY SORT OF MAPS OUT WITH THE SHAPE AND SITE, THIS POSES A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS. ONE IS IT CREATES A BIT OF SIGHT DISTANCE ISSUE FOR CARS PULLING AROUND, AND THEN THE OTHER IS EXTENDS OUT TO GET FAR ENOUGH AWAY BECAUSE OF THE WAYS THE GVC EASEMENT COMES IN AT AN ANGLE THAT CREATES SOME PROBLEMS FOR US.

SO ESSENTIALLY THIS LOCATION DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR US.

SO WE WENT BACK TO SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT IS TO BASICALLY GO TO THE OTHER END OF THE PARKING LOT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S DOWN THE CORNER HERE.

UH, THE IDEA IS WE WOULD LOSE A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES BECAUSE WE NEED TO SCOOCH IT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPHIC A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UH, TO THE EAST TO GET AWAY FROM THE EDGE OF THE EASEMENT.

UH, DO SOME CURB WORK HERE, BUT IT LEAVES ENOUGH ROOM FOR CARS COMING AROUND.

IT DOESN'T IMPEDE THE DRY FLOW.

OKAY, SO THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

UM, AGAIN, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE CREPE MYRTLES HERE BECAUSE OF THE SITE DISTANCE, BUT GENERALLY IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TOO BAD.

BUT WE LOOKED UP AND DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE THING AND THIS GRAPHIC AGAIN, SHOWS YOU WHERE THAT EASEMENT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAY OUT OF FROM GVC SHOWS WHERE WE HAVE A COUPLE WATER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE TREES, UM, WE LOOKED AT A FEW LOCATIONS.

AGAIN, OUR, OUR PREFERENCES HERE, THE PROBLEM IN THIS LOCATION IS AGAIN, IT GETS IN THAT DRIVEWAY AND SORT OF THROWS THE WHOLE THING OUTTA WHACK.

WE COULD SET IT FURTHER BACK HERE, BUT THEN IT'S UP AMONG THOSE BIG TREES, THOSE MAYBE EVEN HERITAGE OAK TREES.

AND THOSE ARE CERTAINLY A PROTECTED CLASSIC CASING FOR TREE.

AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TREE MITIGATION, SO DON'T WANNA BE TAKING THOSE OUT.

WE LOOKED AT IN FRONT OF THE, THE KIND OF MONUMENT HERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM REALLY TO BE A GOOD FIT WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE FLAG POLES AND THE LITTLE WALKWAY.

THIS IS ALSO THE AREA WHERE WE DO THE CHRISTMAS TREE, UM, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY.

AND IT SEEMS TO KINDA KIND OF GET IN THE WAY OF ALL THAT WITH THE MENORAH AND THE CHRISTMAS TREE.

WE THEN LOOK DOWN AT THE OPPOSITE END, BUT AGAIN, YOU'LL REMEMBER WE'VE GOT THE STONE MONUMENT SIGN.

AND SO IN TRYING TO AVOID THE GBCS MEANT, WE THINK THIS IS SORT OF THE BEST LOCATION THAT IT'S GOT.

IT'S FAIRLY VISIBLE FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T NECESSARILY THINK PEOPLE ARE USING THAT TO TURN.

WE'RE REALLY USING IT TO COMMUNICATE INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND HAVING THAT GOOD VISIBILITY, WE, WE THINK IT KIND OF CAPTURES WHAT WE NEED TO WITH IT.

UM, SO AGAIN, NOT IDEAL WITH THE WAY THE EASEMENT LAYS OUT, BUT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, LOOKING AT IT, WE THINK THAT'S THE BEST LOCATION WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION.

BUT AGAIN, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, TO SEE IF YOU HAD OTHER THOUGHTS.

WELL, I, I, I, UM, AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT HERE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE CURVE.

IF YOU PUT IT CLOSER TO THAT NUMBER TWO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DOESN'T TAKE THAT CURVE ENOUGH, IT'S THAT SIGN'S GONNA BE DAMAGED.

THAT WAS OUR FEAR AS WELL.

AWESOME.

SOMEBODY IN A BIG SUBURBAN TYPE VEHICLE MAYBE TRYING TO GET OUT OF A COUNCIL MEETING ON TIME.

, THAT'S IT.

, YOU PUT THAT IN NUMBER FOUR.

I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE COVERED BY SOME OF THOSE, UH, HERITAGE OAK TREES THAT WE HAVE THERE.

UH, NUMBER ONE SEEMS THE MORE LOGICAL IN MY VIEW, UH, AS TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE PLACED, BUT, UH, WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR THE VACANT LOT YET? SO, SO WE DON'T, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THE YEARS, BUT NO, WE HAVEN'T.

SO AGAIN, YOU'LL, YOU'LL RECALL I BELIEVE WE USED EDC FUNDS TO, TO PURCHASE THAT.

SO I KNOW IT'S, IT'S IN OKAY, YOU KNOW, IS IN THE POSSESSION OF EDCI.

I DON'T THINK WE DO AT THIS POINT.

AGAIN, WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS DID WE WANT TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING THERE MAYBE FOR EDC? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED TO DO THAT WITH THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, AND THE SUBSEQUENT MASTER PLAN TO BUILD THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE THAT STRAPPED FOR SPACE.

YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING IT'S, IT, IT DOES A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE IS, IS IT, IT EITHER COULD BE PARKING.

THE OTHER THING FRANKLY IS IT JUST MIGHT BE A NICE ACTIVE SPACE WITHOUT A LOT OF THINGS.

AGAIN, WE, WE FENCED IT OFF TO KEEP FOLKS FROM DRIVING ON IT, RIGHT? BUT THE OTHER IS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN WE DO THE PARADES, RIGHT, THE BBYA PARADE, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KINDA HELP WITH THE, THE HOLLE FESTIVAL OF ANGEL PARADE.

THE JUBILEE PARADE, THE THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS MAY BE A NICE AREA THAT WE CAN ACTIVATE, RIGHT? TO HAVE MAYBE FOOD VENDORS, WATER DISTRIBUTION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TO ME IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GONNA BUILD ANYTHING ON IT.

YEAH, I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT BY ANY MEANS.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER YEAH.

UH, POTENTIAL FUTURE PLANS AND THAT'S JUST FINE.

YEAH, OPEN SPACE IS ALWAYS GOOD, AND TO ME THAT'S PROBABLY, AS WE GROW AND OUR EVENTS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER, WE MAY START TO LOOK TO, TO ACTIVATE THAT

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WITH REGARD TO SOME OF OUR PROGRAMMING WE DO.

ALSO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBER ONE.

SO AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR, SO THEY'RE QUEUED UP, READY TO GO.

SO AGAIN, WE'LL GO BACK TO THIS LOCATION.

UM, AND THEN WITH THE, THE SIGNED DESIGN THAT YOU GUYS POINTED OUT.

SO THAT WAS WHAT WE NEEDED.

WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT.

THANK YOU, MR. JAMES.