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UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
UH, WE DO HAVE A HEARING THE RESIDENTS SCHEDULED HERE.
IS THERE ANY HEARING THE RESIDENTS FOR THE WORKSHOP? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE
[1. Discuss the sales and consumption of alcoholic beverages at City-sponsored events. (M.Watson/S.Williams)]
ON STRAIGHT TO NUMBER ONE.UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, DISCUSS THE SALES AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES AT A CITY SPONSORED EVENT.
ALRIGHT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, YOU REQUESTED THIS ONE BE ON THE, UH, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE MIC FOR DISCUSSION.
I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UM, OPENING UP EVENTS IN REGARDS TO THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND PARK EVENTS FOR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND TALK ABOUT GOING FORWARD A PROCESS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN CHANGING THE ORDINANCE TO FOR THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS.
UM, COUNSEL, UH, IS THIS MORE OF LIKE A, LIKE A, WHAT THEY DO ON LIKE AUSTIN AND MAINE OR LIKE IN NEW BRAUNFELS, LIKE BEING ABLE TO JUST DO IT ON ONE AREA OF THE CITY? MM-HMM.
FROM WHAT AREA TO WHAT AREA ARE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER? SO THE HISTORICAL, JUST ALL OF MAIN OR MAIN STREET AND THEN INCLUDING THE PARKS DURING THE EVENTS.
MR. JAMES, IS IT CURRENT IN THE ORDINANCE NOW REGARDING THIS? WE ARE ON THE REQUEST AND I APOLOGIZE.
SO IS THE IDEA TO ALLOW ALCOHOL ASSUMPTION JUST DURING EVENTS? DURING EVENTS? SO WHEN WE HAVE MOVING ON MAIN, WHEN WE HAVE JUBILEE, WHEN WE HAVE SOME FESTIVAL, THE IDEA IS TO ALLOW CONSUMPTION.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, SO HERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR, FOR YOU AND FOR COUNCIL TO CLARIFY.
SO YOU, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT AT JUBILEE IN THE PAST, I'LL USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
IN PICK PARK, UH, WE HAD THE PARKS AND REC FOUNDATION.
IT WAS A NONPROFIT THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF WORKED WITH THE CITY AND PUT ON THE EVENT AND THEY WOULD COORDINATE TO SELL ALCOHOL DURING THE EVENT.
RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO OUT TO JUBILEE AND YOU'RE NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE WORKING THE EVENT, YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN ALCOHOL AND YOU CAN DRINK ALCOHOL IN THE PARK.
I THINK A FEW YEARS AGO AT THE JAZZ FEST CAME UP WITH MY WIFE, WE BROUGHT A BOTTLE OF WINE, SAT THERE ON THE GRASS AND, AND DRANK IT.
AND SO THAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED.
SO IF WHAT WE WANT IS FOR FOLKS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL, THEN WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS PARTNERING WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS A, A, AN ALCOHOL LICENSE.
UM, WHO THEN WOULD GET THE APPROVAL FROM TCQ FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT LICENSE AND THEN WE WOULD PARTNER TO ALLOW THEM TO SELL ALCOHOL AT THE EVENT.
AND WE COULD DO IT SORT OF FOR A COUPLE WAYS.
ONE IS, UM, JUST FIRST SOMETHING FOR FOLKS TO HAVE TO MAKE THE EVENT MORE FUN FOR 'EM.
THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS THEORETICALLY THERE COULD BE A REVENUE SHARING KIND OF THING, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE ALCOHOL SALES DID AT THE EVENT, RIGHT? SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, AGAIN, I THINK IN THE PAST THE CITY'S PREFERENCE WAS ALWAYS LET'S PARTNER WITH SOMEONE WHO'S IN THAT BUSINESS, KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LET THEM MANAGE IT, LET THEM OWN IT.
LET'S THEM MAKE SURE THEY, THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE LICENSES AND THE INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WE'LL KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON IT FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE THOSE TCQ REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU GO TO EVENT IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TO WHATEVER DEGREE THE AREA NEEDS TO BE DEFINED OR ROPED OFF OR CORDONED OFF OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IF THAT'S THE GOAL OF COUNCIL, WE CAN GO BACK WITH STAFF AND TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK PROBABLY THE THING TO THINK ABOUT IS WHICH EVENTS DO WE WANT TO DO THIS AT, UM, KIND OF GOING FORWARD AND, AND HOW DOES THAT SORT OF CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE EVENT? RIGHT.
IN THE PAST, I THINK, UH, MY IMPRESSION IS THAT JUBILEE, WE MAY WANT MORE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE IF WE'RE SELLING ALCOHOL, WHICH WOULD TEND TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE DRINKING THAN, THAN WE DO NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME EVENTS EASTERN THE PARK OR SOMETHING THAT YOU GO, YEAH, THAT'S NOT WHEN WE WANT TO DO IT, BUT FIND THOSE EVENTS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
IF THE DIRECTION IS FOR COUNCIL FOR STAFF TO RUN THOSE TRAPS, WE CAN RUN SOME TRAPS ON IT, COME BACK TO YOU WITH A REPORT AND SAY, HERE'S HOW IT WOULD WORK AND, AND GET KIND OF FINAL BLESSING AND DIRECTION.
I HAD SOME 1899 LEONARD FROM BLUE BONNET WAS INTERESTED IN DISTRIBUTING.
SO I DID HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT WERE READY TO START.
AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED TO, TO FRANKLY TO BE ONE NICK MARQUEZ IN THE PAST ABOUT DOING IT AT JUBILEE.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT EVER PANNED OUT OR WORKED OUT AT ONE POINT.
UH, BUT YEAH, WE'VE CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST AND COULD, COULD FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, UH, AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST.
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MOVING ON MAINE, IT'S AN OUTDOOR EVENT PEOPLE COULD BUY.IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DRINK HEAVILY.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE THAT WANT TO GRAB A, A PLASTIC CUP AND WALK DOWN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL ALCOHOL THAT WE CAN LET THE LOCAL LOCALS DO THAT.
UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CITY DOING THAT.
UH, 'CAUSE UH, THE TWO MUSIC NIGHTS ARE GENERALLY, UH, BIG SELLERS AND CERTAINLY PART PARTNER WITH A LOCAL, UH, UH, ESTABLISHMENT.
AN OWNER THAT HAS THE LICENSES, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT UNDERSTANDS THE, THE AGE RULES AND YEP.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT, TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF IT, UH, AND MAKE IT A, MAKE IT A POSITIVE THING, BUT YOU KNOW, NEVER WANT TO BE AGAINST IT, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE TO PROMOTE ALCOHOL YEAH.
NO, I, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS EACH, EACH EVENT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL AGREES WITH EACH EVENT.
BUT MOVING ON MAIN IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR WELLNESS AND WALKING AROUND WITH A, WITH A BEER IN YOUR HAND, A CIGARETTE ON THE OTHER, UH, IT TENDS TO SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE AS TO WHY WE HAVE MOVING ON, MOVING IN, MOVING ON MAIN.
BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT WHICH EVENTS.
BUT I THINK BY SELECTING THE EVENTS, PROBABLY YEAH.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THESE WORKSHOPS AGO WAS WHEN WE GO INTO CONSTRUCTION WITH THE MOVING ON MAIN, MAYBE WE'LL MOVE TO SOME SORT OF CONCERT SERIES, YOU KNOW, OVER IN, IN, IN THE PARK AREA AND NEARBY, KIND OF TIED INTO MAIN.
SOME PEOPLE GO, OH YEAH, IT'S A BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON.
SEE'S DOING THINGS AND THAT MUSIC FEST MAKES SENSE TO HAVE, TO HAVE ALCOHOL SALES WITH.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM, FROM, UH, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK PARKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MAYBE CORNHOLE OR WASHERS OR KICKBALL, ONE OF THEM HAD THE, HAD THE BEER TRUCK COME OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS WHO WERE, WHO WERE PLAYING AND THEY DID THAT ON COUNCIL NIGHTS AND NOBODY ON COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND, YOU KNOW, WHATNOT.
SO WE, WE'VE TRIED THAT BEFORE, UM, TOO.
I, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA ALSO.
UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW WE AS A CITY CAN, NOW WE ARE A FAMILY ORIENTED CITY, I THINK THAT OUR RESIDENTS REALLY RESPECT THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF, UH, DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN, WE HAVE OUR FAMILY MOMENTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE MOMENTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE ADULTS AND BE IN A SPACE WHERE IT'S A SAFE AREA.
NOW MIND YOU, THIS DOES MEAN THAT EVERY RESIDENT WILL HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN CONSUMPTION AND THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF OTHERS THAT YEAH, THAT'S JUST A HUMAN NATURE SITUATION.
HOWEVER, IF WE CAN NOT ONLY EMPLOY OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AROUND US THAT ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE, THAT'S HUGE.
WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING TO OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL AS, UM, ALLOWING FOR US TO HAVE THESE EVENTS WHERE FAMILIES CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S MOVING, I THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE MARGARITA OR GLASS OF WINE OR WHATEVER.
UM, I KNOW I WENT TO JAZZ FEST THIS YEAR AND THAT YEAH, THAT WAS GREAT.
UM, NOT ALL CITIES ARE THE SAME OF COURSE, BUT IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS IN, UM, UH, BA HEIGHTS, IT WORKS IN NEW BRAUNFELS, IT WORKS IN GREEN, IT WORKS IN FREDERICKSBURG.
I THINK THAT IT, IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE VALIDITY OF US BEING A SAFE COMMUNITY.
AND I, AND I THINK AS I SAID, WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH EVENTS MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF OUR MOVIES IN THE PARK, THEIR KIDS' MOVIES, THEIR CARTOONS PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE TO DO IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID ONE FOR KIND OF ADULTS, SORT OF A ROMANTIC COMEDY DATE NIGHT KIND OF THING, UH, THAT MIGHT, MIGHT MAKE SENSE AGAIN, SELL WINE, SELL MARGARITAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH KIND OF A PROPOSAL OR THOUGHT LAYOUT OUT HOW IT WOULD WORK, LAY OUT THE ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE, LET YOU GUYS GIVE US FEEDBACK AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS I GUESS? WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A GLASS OF COSSIER OUTTA THE CITY EVENT.
YOU GUYS, THAT IS THE ONLY TOPIC THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, IT IS NOW FIVE 16.