May 06, 2025 City Council Workshop Meeting

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OKAY, THE TIME IS, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK.

[ Call to Order]

AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH,

[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered. ]

SO THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

EACH PERSON IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MAYOR PRO TEMP.

PLEASE CALL FIRST SPEAKER.

CAROLYN WOLFER.

IT IS, IT'S SORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS CAROLYN WOLFER AND I LIVE AT 1637 CANYON OAK.

SO I WANTED TO COME TO THIS MEETING INSTEAD OF THE LAST ONE Y'ALL HAD, BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF A WORKSHOP FROM WHAT I WAS LEARNING ABOUT.

AND THE SHIRTS MAGAZINE CAME OUT RECENTLY, AND I WAS VERY HAPPY AND THRILLED TO SEE, UM, YOUR ARTICLE, FULL PAGE ARTICLE SMARTLY DONE, UM, WAS VERY IMPRESSED.

UM, HOWEVER, I NEVER, I I DIDN'T THINK IT WENT FAR ENOUGH.

AND THIS IS WHAT I'M, IT NEVER REALLY HIT THE BIG QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT I CAME TO THE WORKSHOP FOR, WHICH IS COMMUNICATION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FULL PAGE AD THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR OUR VOICE, UM, AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, MAKE IT IDIOT PROOF THAT SAYS YOU CAN COME TO THE MEETING.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE WORKSHOP.

THE SECOND ONE DOES THIS.

THERE'S A SURVEY.

THIS IS WHAT, AND THIS IS REALLY THE CRUX OF IT.

THIS IS WHAT THE SURVEY IS.

THIS IS HOW YOU REGISTER.

THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT.

THIS IS HOW MANY SURVEYS YOU'RE GONNA GET.

THIS IS HOW OFTEN YOU'RE GONNA GET THEM.

AND THE REASON WHY I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE BEFORE WE HAD THE BRUHAHA OVER WHAT OCCURRED LAST MONTH, UM, I, THEY HAD COME OUT IN OUR, OUR HOA, UH, NEWSLETTER TO SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AND DO THE SURVEY SO YOU CAN SHOW YOUR VOICE.

AND I SAW THIS AND I WAS LIKE, HMM, OKAY.

SO I LOGGED ON AND I LOOKED AT IT, BUT I DIDN'T FINISH IT BECAUSE WHAT I SAW INITIALLY DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION.

IT JUST SAID, OKAY, PUT YOUR INFORMATION HERE AND YOU'LL GET SURVEYS.

OKAY.

AM I DOING A SURVEY FOR THE GARBAGE? AM I DOING A SURVEY? FOR WHAT? I MEAN, WE ARE ALL CONDITIONED THAT WHEN YOU GET A RANDOM SURVEY ON YOUR PHONE, YOU JUST DON'T CLICK ON IT UNLESS YOU'RE A COMPLETE IDIOT.

OKAY? SO THEREFORE, I'M NOT GONNA FOLLOW SOMETHING.

I WANT SOMEBODY TO TAKE OUT A FULL PAGE AD THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR.

THIS IS WHO THAT, THAT THAT MESSAGE IS GONNA COME FROM WHEN YOU GET IT.

HOW MANY AM I GONNA GET IF I HAD SIGNED IT AND FINISHED IT? I STILL DON'T KNOW.

WAS I GONNA GET A SURVEY EVERY WEEK OR AM I GONNA GET IT? ONLY WHEN THE COUNCIL HAS SOMETHING TO TELL ME.

AND THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT MY OPINION IS.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE CONSTITUENTS, IS IF YOU ALL WOULD TAKE SOMETHING OUT THAT TELLS US HOW DO YOU WANNA HEAR OUR VOICE? BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN LOOK BACK AND GO, OKAY, YOU ALL DID GET THE INFORMATION WE TOOK, WE MADE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT AND HOW TO TALK TO ME.

AND THAT WAY IT COULD BE HELPFUL.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY HEARING RESIDENCE WE HAD SCHEDULED FOR THIS ONE.

OKAY.

WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR DISCUSSION

[ Ad-hoc Education Committee (Councilmember Westbrook)]

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO PULL IT UP? YES, IF YOU CAN PULL IT UP.

OKAY.

I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

SO I WAS WATCHING, UM, WHATCHA CALL IT, LIKE ENGLAND DOES IT, CANADA DOES IT.

AMERICAN CONGRESS DOES IT.

EVERYBODY STANDS UP IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE THEY'RE PRESENTING IN FRONT OF.

AND I ALMOST THOUGHT ABOUT GOING DOWN THERE AND STANDING WHERE YOU ARE, BUT I'M A LITTLE, THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE, THAT'S GONNA BE TOO MUCH FOR, EVEN FOR ME.

GO FOR THE FREEDOM.

GO FOR.

I GO FOR FREEDOM.

ARE WE READY? READY.

UH, WHAT'S THE FIRST SLIDE? SO LET ME, BOY, IF YOU WANNA PUT THE SLIDE UP, PLEASE, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BACKSTORY BEHIND HERE BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT.

UM, BUT I DID

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SO THE BACKSTORY IS THIS PAST WEEKEND, UM, SPORTS CLIPS, UH, HAD A CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND THE STORY BEHIND THIS ONE IS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE OWNER OF GIBBS GROOMING.

HE PROVIDES SOME PRODUCTS FOR SPORTS CLIPS.

AND, UM, HE, I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE, UM, THE MURAL AND HE SAYS, WELL, IT'S A NINETIES THEMES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE CONCERT OR DANCE LATER THAT EVENING.

IT WAS NINETIES THEMES.

AND THEN HE PROCEEDED, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT IN EVERY WINDOW, IN MOST WINDOWS.

AND ON THE STEPS, THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS AND HE SAID, THOSE WERE MEMBERS OF, OF HIS COMPANY.

WHETHER THEY WERE FIRED, QUIT, OR CURRENTLY OR RECENTLY HIRED.

THEY WERE ALL VERY CRITICAL.

AND HE SAID THEY WERE ALL CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF HIS COMPANY.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, IS IT, IT SORT OF TAKES A TEAM, IT TAKES AND ALL OF US TO SORT OF NAVIGATE, UH, AND PRODUCE BETTER STUDENT OUTCOMES, UM, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, SO HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.

WHEN IT TAKES ALL OF US, AND I THINK ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, UM, WHETHER WE OR HAVE CONNECTION TO THE MILITARY, UH, WE HAVE A MEDICAL, UH, MANAGER, A MILITARY PERSON, UM, MARCUS MILITARY, AND A PHD.

WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF TML.

AND WE HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

AND SO IT DOES TAKE A TEAM, AND I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE ON SOME LEVEL THAT, UM, THE BETTER THE INFORMATION, THE BETTER QUALITY INFORMATION PRODUCES BETTER DECISIONS.

AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, IS WE NEED BETTER INFORMATION TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, TO HELP BETTER STUDENT OUTCOMES IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

UM, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE ALL OF US TO NAVIGATE THIS POLITICAL CRAZINESS, NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT, UH, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OR VOUCHERS.

NEXT.

SO THAT'S, THIS IS MY ASK, UM, SORT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

TEMPORARY, NOTHING PERMANENT, UM, ON EDUCATION.

AND THE OVERARCHING GOAL, THE OVERALL ARCHING VISION IS BUILDING THE BEST CITY FOR STUDENT DEVELOPMENT AND OUTCOMES.

UM, WE'VE HAD MILITARY CITY, USA, WE'VE GOT PURPLE HEART.

UM, WHY NOT TRY TO IDENTIFY AS THE, UH, STUDENT CITY, USA OR STUDENT CITY, TEXAS.

NEXT, OUR VISION TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE BEST CITY IN TEXAS FOR STUDENT DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES.

BY PROMOTING EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE ACROSS ALL SCHOOL TYPES, ENSURING EXCLUSIVE SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND EDUCATORS, AND PARTNERING ACROSS SECTORS TO ELIMINATE BARRIERS TO SUCCESS.

SO I WILL SAY TO, TO SOME EXTENT, WE ALREADY DO SOME OF THIS, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IS MORE FEEDBACK FROM PARENTS, FROM PEOPLE FROM ANY SECTOR OF THE EDUCATIONAL ECOSYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE EXIST RIGHT NOW.

TRYING TO GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK AND SEEING WHAT MORE WE CAN DO.

WHAT MORE CAN THE CITY OF CHURCH DO TO PRODUCE BETTER, UH, BETTER STUDENTS, BETTER YOUNG ADULTS, OUR FUTURE? NEXT, WHY THIS MATTERS, LIKE ANY STRATEGIC OPERATION, EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS DEPENDS ON SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S AHEAD OF US, UM, BETTER STUDENTS, UM, BETTER ENTREPRENEURS, MAYBE MORE, BETTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE ROAD, EDUCATIONAL SHAPES OUR FUTURE WORKFORCE, MILITARY READINESS, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, ECONOMIC VITALITY.

WE ALL, WE ALL THE CITY OF CHURCH SHOULD BE TRYING TO DO MORE.

WE MUST UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT ALL LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC, PRIVATE, CHARTER, AND HOMESCHOOL.

AND SO, WHAT I THINK WHAT WE SEE HERE IS FOR THIS LAST BULLETIN BULLET, IS WE DO GET INVITED TO PUBLIC.

UM, THE CHURCHS UNIVERSAL CITY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES INVITE US TO SOME OF THEIR SEMINARS, SOME OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS, DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A HOLISTIC VIEW IN TERMS OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, HOME SCHOOLS, AND HOW THEY ALL COME TOGETHER IN A ROLE THAT CITY OF SHIRTS CAN DO TO PRODUCE BETTER STUDENTS AND BETTER YOUNG ADULTS.

OUR FUTURE, NEXT LINEMAN WITH SHIRTS, STRATEGIC GOALS, WELL-INFORMED, THRIVING COMMUNITY.

WE ASK FOR THAT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND, AND OTHER, UH, DOCUMENTS, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND PUBLIC SERVICES.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT MATTERS MOST IN HAVING A BETTER EDUCATED SOCIETY.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND LOCAL CONTROL.

WE JUST HEARD FROM A, UH, A YOUNG CITIZEN, UM, ASKING FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND BETTER, UM, COMMUNICATION AND LOCAL CONTROL, LOCAL CONTROL.

WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

THIS, THIS LEGISLATIVE CYCLE.

IT'S ALWAYS, FOR SOME REASON, THE STATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS, UH, SORT OF UNDERMINING OUR LOCAL CONTROL.

THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

UM, AND BASICALLY EXHIBIT OUR, OUR LOCAL CONTROL, SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND LONG-TERM PLANNING.

UH, TO WHAT EXTENT DOES EDUCATION HAVE A, UH, PART IN THAT ONE? YOUTH ENGAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT? UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THE LEADERSHIP, UM, YOUNG YOUTH LEADERS, LEADERSHIP, UH, ACADEMY GROUP OF YOUNG LEADERS.

I THINK THIS WILL JUST HELP TO SUPPORT IT.

NEXT, UH, PURPOSE AND BENEFITS GATHER A HOLISTIC UNDERSTANDING OF

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UH, LET'S TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT AND WHAT WE SEE IF WE CAN DO MORE, PROVIDE ACTIONABLE EVIDENCE-BASED RECOMMENDATIONS.

STRENGTHEN COLLABORATION ACROSS SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES, ENHANCE LOCAL VOICES AND CITY DISCUSSIONS.

IDENTIFY CITY POLICIES THAT SUPPORT STUDENT SUCCESS.

YES.

UH, ANTICIPATED OBJECTIONS.

SO THIS IS NOT GONNA BE WITHOUT SOME OBJECTIONS.

AND SO THE FIRST OBJECTION MAY BE THAT THIS IS A SCHOOL BOARD ISSUE MAYBE, BUT THE CITY ALREADY INFLUENCES TRAFFIC, SAFETY, BROADBAND, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL IMPACTING SCHOOLS.

MATTER OF FACT, ANYTIME THERE IS A, UM, AN ISSUE COMING AROUND WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT, WE GET, UM, PARENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY.

WILL THIS WASTE TIME? UH, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE MAY SEE IT THAT WAY.

HOWEVER, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE ONLY AD HOC, UH, TIME LIMITED AND FOCUS ON ACTIONABLE RESULTS.

AND A NEXT, NEXT OBJECTION WE MAY HAVE IS, WHAT ARE THE DELIVERABLES? AND BASICALLY A SNAPSHOT OF THE NEEDS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY CONSIDERATION.

IT'S ONLY ADVISORY, AND THAT'S ALL IT IS.

NEXT CLOSING STATEMENT.

THIS COMMITTEE WON'T GOVERN.

IT WILL GATHER PERSPECTIVES, BUILD PARTNERSHIPS, AND INFORM DECISIONS.

UH, LET'S BUILD THE BEST CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR STUDENT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, LET'S GIVE THIS ISSUE THE TIME AND STRUCTURE IT DESERVES.

UM, I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY ABOUT IT.

THAT'S MY PITCHES.

WERE FOR ESTABLISHING A, AN AD HOC LIMITED TIME, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL FLOOR'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

I FULLY SUPPORT THE MOST, UH, UH, SUPPORTIVE, UH, COMMUNITY FOR EDUCATION ACROSS THE BOARD.

UH, I THINK, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE KEYS TO BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL'S FUTURE SUCCESS IS TO BUILD A, UH, A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS EDUCATION AND, AND GROWTH.

UH, AND I JUST WROTE A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES DOWN, AND I THINK OUR, OUR CITY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.

NOW MAYBE WE NEED TO CODIFY IT OR MAYBE WE NEED TO, TO GATHER IT INTO A, UH, UM, A MORE ACCESSIBLE ONE, YOU KNOW, UH, INTERNET, UH, DROPDOWN PAGE OR SOMETHING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, THAT BUILD THAT, UH, THAT COMMUNITY, THAT BUILD THAT, UH, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY AND, AND ACCESS FOR, FOR STUDENTS.

UM, EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THROUGH THE SCHOOL ITSELF.

AND, AND WE KNOW THAT.

BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL LIBRARY PROGRAM THAT STARTS FROM PRESCHOOL ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UH, UH, POST, UH, UH, HIGH SCHOOL, UH, INTO, INTO THE COLLEGE SUPPORT THINGS.

UH, WE'VE GOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, CORPORATION THAT, THAT SPONSORS, UH, UH, UH, YOUTH ACCESS TO, TO DIFFERENT, UH, BUSINESS THINGS IN THE CITY, MANUFACTURING, ET CETERA.

UH, OUR, UH, CHAMBER, UH, SUPPORTS OUR, UH, DECA FOLKS, UH, ANNUALLY WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EVENTS.

THEY SUPPORT, UH, STUDENT, UH, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, UH, LEADERSHIP PROGRAMS. UH, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BOTH SUPPORT YOUTH, BOTH IN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S STILL EDUCATION BY, BY SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, FIRE DEPARTMENT, ART, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ART THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.

IT GETS THE YOUTH, UH, INVOLVED IN THE CITY.

IT KEEPS THEM INVOLVED IN THE CITY.

IT GIVES THEM ACCESS TO, UH, EVENTS IN THE CITY.

OUR CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE OUR, UH, OUR, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT WE CALL IT NOW, BUT THE, THE, UH, JUNIOR COUNCIL DAY, UH, AND ACCESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ACCESS TO THE MAYOR.

AND, AND THERE'S JUST NUMEROUS EVENTS THAT THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN, WHETHER IT'S A DIRECT SPONSOR OR NOT.

UH, BUT I THINK OUR COMMUNITY HAS STEPPED UP IN GENERAL TO DO A GREAT JOB.

NOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO, LIKE I SAY, BRING IT ALL TOGETHER SO THAT THERE'S A, UH, A REFERENCE TABLE OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

AND THEN MAYBE, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO, UH, START NEW THINGS OR JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, POSSIBILITY OF GROWING THEM.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE DISADVANTAGED AT ALL AS A COMMUNITY, UH, WHETHER

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CIVIL, UH, UH, UNIVERSAL CITY ISD SUPPORT STRUCTURE.

AND I MEAN, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, JUDSON, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, NBSD OR KAMAL, ISD, EXCUSE ME.

UH, AND, UH, EAST CENTRAL, ALL OF THOSE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE RIGHT HERE IN, IN SHIRTS.

AND I THINK ALL OF THE STUDENTS HAVE GOT ACCESS TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY STUFF.

UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT.

AND I LOOK AROUND, I GO, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

LIKE I SAY, IT MAY NOT BE AS, AS FORMALIZED, UH, FROM AN, FROM AN OVERVIEW, BUT I, I THINK IT'S ALL THE PIECES AND PARTS ARE THERE.

JUST, JUST A THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER.

G**O, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH, UH, UH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

UM, DEFINITELY COMMUNICATION IS A KEY.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT INWARD.

YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, SHOOT, AND COMMUNICATE.

COMMUNICATION IS A BIG KEY.

WHETHER IT BE WITH THE SCHOOLS, WITH THE COMMUNITIES, GIVING OUT A SURVEY, WHATEVER.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE BETTER AT COMMUNICATING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, WITH OUR SCHOOLS, WITH OUR RESIDENTS.

THAT IS A BIG FACTOR.

AND WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE ON IT.

WE HAVE TO FIND MORE AVENUES, UH, IN, IN ORDER TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY, UH, TO, TO SUCCESS.

AND OUR RESIDENTS, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WE NEED TO GET THAT WORD OUT THERE.

AND WE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO GET IT OUT THERE A LOT BETTER, A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE.

THAT IS A BIG PRIORITY.

COMMUNICATION.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, MAYOR PRO, TIM HAYWARD, I KIND OF AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN IN THAT IN THE CITY WE HAVE STEPPED UP.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT, UM, ARE VERY EFFECTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR LIBRARY AND OUR PARKS AND RECS BOARD ALONG WITH ACADEMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO AND LEARN AND PARTICIPATE IN AND EDUCATE.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY THINKING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S JUST GATHERING ALL THE DATA AND PUTTING IT THERE AND PUTTING IT WHERE THE SCHOOLS AND THE PARENTS CAN RESEARCH IT.

WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO, UM, THE CHURCH LIBRARY THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN CHURCH FOR THOSE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. I KNOW EVEN FOR ME, SOME OF MY, MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE A LITTLE BIT YOUNG, BUT MY DAUGHTER HAS BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE TEND TO OFFER AND HAS THOUGHT ABOUT ONCE THEY GET A LITTLE BIT OF SOME AGE, BRINGING THEM OUT HERE TO LEARN SOME THINGS.

SO I THINK AS A WHOLE, WE ARE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THIS COMMUNITY TO GET THE PEOPLE NOW PUTTING IT IN OUR WEBSITE.

YEAH, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE COULD PROBABLY TWEAK ON THE WEBSITE JUST IN GENERAL, NOT JUST FOR EDUCATION, BUT KNOWING THAT A LOT OF OUR, SOME OF OUR SENIORS NEED ONE DROP DOWN SCREEN, NOT MULTIPLE, BUT I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE.

WE'RE ALSO TEACHING PEOPLE, UM, I THINK WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE THE DIFFERENT LEAGUES THAT WE HAVE, THE BASEBALL LEAGUES, THE SOCCER LEAGUES, NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY, BUT WE PROVIDE THE AREA IN WHICH THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OTHER LEAGUES THAT, UH, THE PARKS AND RAKES PUT ON.

SO IT'S TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO WORK TOGETHER, HOW TO BUILD TEAMWORK.

SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT, LIKE EVEN WITH OUR LEADERSHIP, UM, PROGRAM, WITH THE TEENS THAT COME THROUGH, THEY'RE LEARNING THOSE LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEM BACK TO THEIR SCHOOL AND SHOW OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THAT IS.

AND THEN WE GET MORE PEOPLE.

WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CITY THAT SETS US APART FROM SOME OTHER CITIES.

AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS WE ALSO HAVE A VERY WONDERFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT GETS PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AS A CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TO QUANTIFY THAT.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AN ADDED COMPONENT, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN QUANTIFY, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME THINGS AND SOME WON'T.

SOME WILL GO OUT OF THE AREA TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE THINGS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIKE A HIGH GRADUATION RATE, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES MIGHT HAVE.

SO I'M, SO, SO I THINK AS A CITY, WE'RE DOING GOOD.

COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL LUSO, JUST A QUESTION FOR ROBERT.

UH, YOU SAID IT'S NOT AN, AN ACTIONABLE COMMITTEE, AND SO THE SCOPE WOULD BE MORE ADVISORY.

YOU SEE LIKE IN A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL

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AND SO COULD PARTNERSHIPS BE A POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE WITH THE CITY OF SHIRTS AND HOMESCHOOLERS? MAYBE CITY OF SHIRTS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS, MAYBE CITY OF SHIRTS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS MAYBE.

UM, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL, RIGHT? IT'S UNDERSTANDING HOLISTICALLY EDUCATION IN THE CITY OF CHURCH FROM EVERY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IN TRYING TO IDENTIFY NEEDS.

WHAT I HEARD WAS, OH, WHAT A GREAT JOB WE'RE DOING.

I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING A GREAT JOB.

WHAT I'M SEEING IS THERE IS A BENEFIT TO LISTENING, UM, TO PARENTS, TO EDUCATIONAL LEADERS, WHICHEVER EDUCATIONAL ECOSYSTEM YOU HAVE, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND SO WHAT I HEARD WAS, WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS.

THAT'S WHAT I JUST HEARD.

NO, THAT'S WHAT I JUST HEARD.

SO YOU'RE EITHER IN FAVOR OF FROM, FROM LOCAL CONTROL.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATE IS TELLING US.

YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE, YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE SAY.

SO IN AUSTIN, WE GOT IT.

YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE SAY SO.

AND YET, JUST WHAT I JUST HEARD HERE IS WE KNOW WHAT'S GOOD ENOUGH WHERE YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE INPUT.

THERE'S NO HARM IN RECEIVING INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS OF SHIRTS.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NONE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE WOULD YOU GO WITH THAT INFORMATION? SO AN ADVISORY ROLE.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GATHER, RIGHT? SO IF A PARENT SAYS, UM, WE NEED, MAYBE I'D BE ABLE TO GET MY THOUGHTS IF THE PERSON GO AHEAD SPEAK.

I WASN'T SPEAKING TO YOU.

I KNOW YOU WEREN'T SPEAKING TO ME.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM, WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING.

SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME DECORUM HERE.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD OR WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE INFORMATION, UNLESS YOU HAVE IT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEALING LOGISTICS.

THE BETTER, MORE INFORMATION AND THE QUALITY OF INFORMATION DETERMINES THE OUTCOME.

THAT'S ALL I'M GATHERING.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO, IS IF THE PARENTS SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? EVERYTHING'S FINE, THEN EVERYTHING'S FINE.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

IF THE PARENTS SAY, HEY, WE NEED MORE THIS, MORE THAT ONE, THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE WOULD DISCUSS IT AND WE CAN SAY YAY OR NATE TO IT.

I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GONNA BRING, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A HARM IN SORT OF CNA.

CAN WE GET SOME FEEDBACK, UM, FROM CHARTER SCHOOLS, FROM PUBLIC? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT, UM, HOMESCHOOLERS NEED FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, I DO.

AT LEAST I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT PARENTS NEED FROM A HOMESCHOOL PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

UM, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT YET.

UH, PARENTS HAVEN'T STEPPED UP.

UH, CHARTER SCHOOLS PEOPLE, THE CHARTER SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND SUPERINTENDENTS HAVEN'T SAID, HEY, HERE'S HOW WE CAN IMPROVE.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S HOW CITY OF CHURCH CAN HELP US.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

YEAH, IT, IT IS.

I'M SORRY.

I DID NOT MEAN TO SAY, UH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

UH, AGAIN, I WAS JUST LISTING OFF ALL THE THINGS THAT I KNOW WE DO WELL, AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY, UH, GETS FEEDBACK THROUGH THE LIBRARY, THROUGH, UH, CITY COUNCIL, THROUGH THE CHAMBER, THROUGH PARKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY ALL OF THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALWAYS TWEAKING THEIR PROGRAMS, THEY'RE ALWAYS RESPONDING TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY ALREADY.

UH, WHAT WE OFFER IS NOT LIMITED TO SCUC, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY, WHETHER THEY'RE HOMESCHOOLED OR PRIVATE SCHOOLED, OR IF THEY GO TO, YOU KNOW, SACS OR WHEREVER, NOT, NOT, NOT EVEN IN THE CITY.

UH, AND AGAIN, I DID SAY THAT MAYBE WE DO NEED TO, TO CATALOG IT ALL, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE IT IS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE A CITY, UH, UH, UH, SINGULAR TASK, UH, TO SAY, OKAY, UH, I, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO FROM THE CITY COUNCIL STANDPOINT, UH, FROM, FOR EXAMPLE, I SEE, UH, OUR LIBRARIAN BACK THERE, , AND I KNOW THAT SHE TALKS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW SHE GETS FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, THEY DO ADAPT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

UH, SO IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO? OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET BETTER EDUCATED OURSELVES ON, ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE AND WHO'S DOING WHAT? COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMITTEE.

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WE HAVE A BILLBOARD OVER THERE BY STATION TWO.

WE COULD DO SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO THAT.

THERE'S SOME IDEAS THAT WE COULD KICK AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, A COMMITTEE MIGHT DEFINITELY BENEFIT FROM THAT.

MAYOR TO HAYWARD.

MY IDEA IS NOT TO SAY I DON'T HEAR FROM RESIDENT.

AND MY CONCERN IS KNOWING WHAT MY ROLE IS AND WHAT THE COUNCIL ROLE IS, AND WE START DOING INTO THINGS.

AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT AN ACTIONABLE COMMITTEE, BUT YET IF SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING THEY WANNA BRING IT TO COUNCIL TO VOTE, THEN IT BECOMES AN ACTIONABLE COMMITTEE.

MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE EDUCATION ROLE AND WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL ROLE, AND WE START MIXING THOSE TWO, THEN ARE WE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING AGAINST WHAT STATE LAW IS? THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN AS FAR AS THE COMMITTEE, IF THAT'S THE COMMITTEE THAT PEOPLE WANT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A COMMITTEE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE WHAT OUR ROLE IS AND WHAT AN EDUCATION ROLE IS, AND KNOWING THAT, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CITY NOT TOO FAR FROM US THAT WAS TRYING TO PARTNER WITH A, THE SCHOOL BOARD.

AND THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT WANT PARTNERSHIP WITH CITIES BECAUSE THE TWO ROLES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

NOW, IF THIS IS SOMETHING TO GAIN DATA TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO AND PROVIDE, THEN FINE.

I I, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IF WE NEED DATA POINTS, BUT JUST TO SAY WE NEED TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF EDUCATION WHEN THAT'S REALLY NOT OUR ROLE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS IN EDUCATION.

BUT IF PEOPLE NEED SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN OFFER, THEN I THINK IT, THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS IS GOING.

I, I'M NOT TRYING TO NIX THE IDEA, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO.

WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT ACTIONABLE.

BUT THEN WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, AND THEN WE PROVIDE IT, THEN IT BECOMES ACTIONABLE.

SO ARE WE GONNA BE ACTIONABLE? ARE WE JUST GATHERING DATA OR ARE WE LOOKING TO SEE BUDGET ITEMS OR TALKING TO PEOPLE? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO UN ALSO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT AT CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT EDUCATION AND WE HAVE SOME SAY SO IN WHAT HAPPENS IN A CHARTER SCHOOL, WHAT HAPPENS IN A HOME SCHOOL, WHAT HAPPENS IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL? BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE ENTITIES WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE CHARTER, THEY'RE COVERED BY STATE LAW IN SOME WAYS.

HOMESCHOOLERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING THE WRONG IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DO NOT.

WE CAN OFFER SERVICES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW THESE ENTITIES ARE RAN.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

AND IF YOU CAN EXPOUND ON THAT, THEN I'M FINE.

I, IF COMMITTEE IS A COMMITTEE, THEN SO BE IT.

AND WHO WANTS TO BE ON IT, SO BE IT.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS GOING TO BE THE RIGHT THING AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S ROLES.

BEFORE I RECOGNIZE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

AND, UH, EDUCATION SHAPES THE MINDS OF OUR YOUTH AND ACTUAL ACTUALLY BUILDS CHARACTER.

AND THAT'S WHY EDUCATION'S IMPORTANT.

UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE, UH, AND I THINK THAT IF WE, IF WE GET THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE, SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, WHAT IS MISSING, THEN MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE WANNA GO AS FAR AS ADDING TO THE EDUCATION, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S EDUCATIONAL, WHETHER THEY GO TO THE POLICE ACADEMY, THE FIRE ACADEMY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNG LEADERS, ALL THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT SHAPE THE MINDS AND THE CHARACTERS OF OUR, OF, UH, OF THE STUDENTS HERE.

BUT ARE WE FULFILLING THAT? AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT ELSE IS MISSING SO THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE PROGRAMS. UH, BECAUSE EDUCATION IS SO BROAD AND IT'S, UH, IN THE WAY IT'S, IT'S BROUGHT UP HERE IS WHAT IS MISSING.

WE DON'T KNOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL IS STRUGGLING HERE.

WE, WE HAVE ALL THESE PROGRAMS, BUT ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING UNLESS WE FORM A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, WE GOT THIS PORTION TAKEN CARE OF.

WE HAVE THE YOUNG LEADERS THAT ADDRESSES WHAT WE DO HERE AS A COUNCIL.

WE HAVE THE FIRE, THE FIRE, THE POLICE, UH, WHAT THEY DO.

IS THERE SOMETHING MISSING? WE DON'T KNOW AS A COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'RE STRUGGLING

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WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.

AND IF WE TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS, MAYBE WE CAN FIND WHAT IS MISSING AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS, I THINK WE ARE IN A BETTER SITUATION TO DETERMINE AT THAT POINT.

YES, MA'AM.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NO, I, SO WE DO AGREE ON, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS MISSING.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY HERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS MISSING.

A LONG LIST.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK CHURCH DOES DO A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS MISSING.

UM, EDUCATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD IS DYNAMIC.

UM, FROM THE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE DOING.

I DON'T IF ANYBODY CAN TELL ME ON CITY COUNCIL WHAT CHARTER SCHOOL IS DOING AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE DOING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT PRIVATE, WHAT THE, UH, PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE DOING AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

WE DON'T KNOW.

SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO IT.

THERE'S A COMMITTEE, RIGHT? OR YOU COULD JUST SORT OF TASK STAFF TO DO IT.

UM, STAFF STILL HAS TO, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, STAFF IS STILL GONNA HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH HOMESCHOOLERS HOMESCHOOL ASSOCIATION OF WHOEVER THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND JUST SORT OF ENGAGE WITH THEM.

DO A SURVEY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AND THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GATHER THE INFORMATION.

SO IF A STAFF, IF YOU WANT TO TASK STAFF WITH DOING IT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

THERE'S AN UNKNOWN, UNKNOWN.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND OTHER PEOPLE NEED.

THE IDEA HERE, CITY COUNCIL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU GOT TWO MAIN ROLES.

YOU GOT GOVERNANCE, YOU HAVE GOVERNANCE AND THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND EDUCATION PLAYS A KEY PART.

AND FOR THE KEY PART OF EDUCATION, IF YOU DON'T, IF WE'VE, WE'VE ALL BEEN TO THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS LOSING STUDENTS.

THEY'RE LOSING THEM TO WHO? THE CHARTER SCHOOLS.

CHARTER SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AND HOME SCHOOLS.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASING NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO BECOME A BETTER CITIZEN, TO BE A BETTER COMMUNITY MEMBER.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY NEED.

SO IF YOU WANNA DO IT TA WITH A STAFF, THAT'S FINE.

I'M NOT OBSTINATE, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, INFLEXIBLE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

AND IF WE'RE BEING MET, IF THEY'RE BEING MET NOW WE KNOW NOW WE HAVE SOME DATA TO BACK IT UP THAT, HEY, WE ARE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THEIR NEEDS AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER THROUGH IT.

WE'RE GETTING BETTER WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

THAT'S, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY.

UH, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

UM, BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING UP IN AUSTIN, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GONNA GET THE MESSAGE.

THE COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A PROBLEM.

IT'S GONNA BE A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH HOMESCHOOL, WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, ALL THAT IS STILL, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE.

I THINK THE DIRECTION I THINK WE NEED TO GO IS, UH, LET'S GET ALL THE PROGRAMS, IF, UH, UH, STAFF CAN JUST LIST ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM OUR, FROM OUR, UH, COMMUNITY HERE OR THE, FROM THE CITY, AND WE CAN PUT THOSE TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE COUNCIL AWARE OF WHAT IS THERE.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE FORM A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, UH, OR WHAT, I MEAN, MAYBE WE NEED, NEED TO EXPAND THE POLICE AND FIRE BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BOOKED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT JUST THE, JUST THE LISTING OF THE COMMITTEES THAT THE COUNCIL IS AWARE WHAT'S THERE.

AND THEN WE CAN FORM A COMMITTEE TO SEE, TO LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS AND MAYBE ADD A DIFFERENT ONE AS IN THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK WANTS TO GO.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND AS IT WAS POINTED OUT DURING THE HEARING, THE RESIDENCE IS, THE COMMUNICATION'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A PROBLEM.

THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET THE MESSAGE.

AND THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE AN OBSTACLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, REGARDLESS OF THE TOPIC.

IT'S, SOMEONE'S NEVER GONNA GET THAT, THAT MESSAGE.

UM, MR. JAMES, OH, THERE'S MY MIC ON.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, MAYOR, SO CER STAFF IS CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO IN TERMS OF A, A PRIORITY OF WHERE WE SPEND OUR FOCUS.

UM, AND CERTAINLY IT'S NOT HARD FOR STAFF TO PULL TOGETHER THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER THAT HAVE SOME EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, AGAIN, MELISSA COULD HAVE THAT TO ME BY NOON TOMORROW.

PARKS COULD HAVE THAT PD, FIRE, ET CETERA.

UH, WE CAN INDICATE ALL THE REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE WITH, WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND, AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND, AND COMMITTEES WE SIT ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HA, HAPPY TO SORT OF DO THAT.

JUST FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION THOUGH, MY IMPRESSION COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK IS IT WASN'T

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IT'S MORE BROAD AND HOLISTIC ABOUT WHAT THE CITY DOES TO SUPPORT EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND, AND SO WHILE WE CAN PULL TOGETHER THAT LIST AND, AND I, I WOULD PERCEIVE THIS TO BE OF AN, AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, RIGHT? AT SOME POINT WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION, WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, WE'RE DEFINING WHAT THE CITY'S ROLE IS.

YES.

YEAH.

UM, ON THAT LIST, COULD YOU INCLUDE ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS REGARDLESS OF AGE? UH, BECAUSE EDUCATION IS SO BROAD IN ITS SPAN.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, CITIZENS PATROL AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A, EVEN THE LIBRARY HAS, UH, HAS, UH, PROGRAMS THAT ARE FOR THE PARENTS THAT ACTUALLY EDUCATE THE CHILD.

WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A VERY BROAD DEFINITION AND RIGHT.

AND SO YOU MAY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS ON THE LIST AND GO, WELL, THAT WASN'T REALLY WHAT I MEAN, DOESN'T FIT, BUT WE'LL ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.

MY, MY POINT SIMPLY THOUGH IS MY IMPRESSION IS THE COUNCILMAN WESTBROOK'S GOAL IS BROADER THAN THAT.

BUT LEMME LET YOU YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL TITLE? UM, CITY MANAGER.

UM, ACTING ACTING CITY MANAGER.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

BUT HERE'S BECAUSE I SENT SOME, SOME TENSION.

WHAT ABOUT IF THE STAFF CAN REACH OUT TO A HOMESCHOOL ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS OR IN, IN THIS AREA? UM, CHARTER SCHOOLS IN THIS AREA AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THIS AREA, THEY CAN DO SOME RESEARCH.

AND IF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE, UM, THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND THE HOME SCHOOLS FEEL THAT THERE'S A NEED, THEN MAYBE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT IF THERE'S NOT, IF, IF THE STAFF REACHES OUT TO HOMESCHOOLERS AND SAY, NO, EVERYTHING'S FINE.

WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING.

WE DON'T WANNA BE A PART OF COMMITTEE, SO BE IT.

THAT CUTS ME OFF.

I, I BELIEVE IN GRASSROOTS, RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE, I DON'T WANT ME TO BE THE DRIVER OF THIS WHEN I THINK THERE'S A NEED, BUT THE NEED WILL BE VALIDATED THROUGH THE ACTIONS AND THE VIEWPOINTS OF PEOPLE WHO HOMESCHOOL PRIVATE SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND OTHERS.

SO, UM, I'M WILLING TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

OKAY.

I JUST, UH, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE COMING TO THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IN MOST CASES.

UH, IT'D BE TIME IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE IN THIS SITUATION.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I, LET ME OFFER THIS UP AGAIN.

AND I, I CERTAINLY COURSE STAFF WILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO DO.

WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SAY SITTING HERE, BECAUSE STEVE CHOSE PERHAPS INCORRECTLY TO MAKE ME ACTING CITY MANAGER INSTEAD OF SARAH.

BUT, UM, I, I THINK STAFF COULD SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND NOT HIT THE MARK BECAUSE WE GOT CLARITY AS TO THE INTENT, RIGHT? UM, SO CERTAINLY THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.

AND SO, SO TO ME, AS I SAID, MAYBE IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

SO IF, IF I, I THINK RIGHT, BECAUSE WE CAN GO OUT, LIKE I, LIKE I SAID, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

SO WE MET WITH JP TWO LAST WEEK, THE WEEK BEFORE, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS IN FACT THAT ARE ISSUES FOR THEM.

MM-HMM .

SOME OF WHICH WE HAVE A HAND IN.

AND I SENT AN EMAIL OUT THIS MORNING BACK TO THEM SAYING, HERE, HERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND HERE ARE WHERE THOSE GO.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING BETWEEN THE LEADERSHIP OF US AND S-C-U-C-I-S-D.

UH, I ATTEND ALONG WITH CHIEF LOWRY AND GENERALLY STEVE WILLIAMS, THE CIAC COMMITTEE, UH, OR OR CAC COMMITTEE FOR S-C-U-C-I-S-D.

SARAH GONZALEZ SAT ON COMAL ISD STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, A YEAR OR SO AGO.

UH, I KNOW, UH, A J RGA WITH PD PERIODIC, WE TALKS TO THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ABOUT SOME OF THEIR NEEDS WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THESE EDUCATION PROGRAMS. I THINK WHAT MIGHT HELP IS MAYBE IF, IF I MIGHT WE'LL COME UP WITH THE LIST OF THE THINGS THE CITY DOES TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE EDUCATION GROUPS, THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER MM-HMM .

VERY BROADLY.

UM, AND LET COUNCIL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU THINK CREATE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE TO SORT OF DEFINE WHAT THAT ROLE IS, RIGHT.

BECAUSE MAYBE PART OF WHAT IT IS THAT, THAT WE END UP WITH, AND I COULD CERTAINLY SEE THIS, IS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC ISSUE JUMPING OUT.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING SOMETHING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE COULDN'T DO BETTER.

PART OF THAT, I THINK THAT, THAT THIS CONVERSATION GOT ON THE COMMUNICATION IS TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE AS THE CITY AND AS COUNCIL ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME ANY OF US ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DIOCESE WENT TO ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD MEETINGS? WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE WENT TO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS? THEY HAVE LIKE GRADUATION AT ONE OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS FOR

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AND MAYBE THAT GOES BEYOND THE, THE KIND OF FORMAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS, BUT IT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DO, FRANKLY, A LOT OF THE TIME.

JUST DO IT IN A LITTLE MORE WITH A LITTLE MORE, UH, FOCUS ON BEING AT THOSE EVENTS LIKE YOU DO ALREADY.

HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, TAKING NOTES, RIGHT? AND COMING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, THIS WAS SOMETHING I HEARD.

THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, OR THEY HAVE THIS ISSUE OR THAT ISSUE.

AND MAYBE IT WORKS ITERATIVELY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF WHERE WE THINK WE COULD DO BETTER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON AN AREA THAT MAYBE IS COVERED.

IT'S, IT'S MAYBE A WAY TO FIND A BALANCE, RIGHT? YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK, UM, OH, MAYOR PRO TEMP HAYWARD.

SO I WANNA KNOW IF THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN DONE, WHERE HAS IT BEEN DONE? CAN WE LOOK AT HOW THEY APPLIED THE PROGRAM SO THAT MAYBE WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE DIRECTION IT NEEDS TO GO? BECAUSE I THINK IF WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL KIND OF GETTING CAUGHT KIND OF THINKING, WHERE IS THIS SUPPOSED TO GO? 'CAUSE IT'S SO BROAD.

MAYBE WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT TO NARROW DOWN THE FOCUS AND SAY, ARE WE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT AS HELPING THEM FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAYBE LOOK TO GUIDE US OR SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY DONE THIS, THEN WE HAVE A FOCUS AND THEN WE CAN FOCUS IN ON SOME OF THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST KIND OF BEING OUT THERE IN, IN BROAD LAND IS MY QUESTION, ROBERT.

WE CAN DO THE RESEARCH.

CERTAINLY.

UM, BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN ANYTHING IS, IS THIS IDEA, IS IT, IS IT WORTH EXPLORING AND CAN WE MAKE IT OUR OWN? I DON'T CARE IF HOUSTON DOES IT.

SAN ANTONIO DOES IT OR NEW BRAUNFELS DOES IT.

HOW DOES SHIRTS DO IT? HOW DOES SHIRTS BRING UP THE FUTURE LEADERS OF THIS COMMUNITY? HOW IS SHIRTS MAKING AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE STUDENT OUTCOMES? THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON.

I GET HOW CHURCHS DOES IT, BUT IF WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING AT, BECAUSE AFTER WE SAW YOUR SLIDE, WE, WE HAVEN'T HONED IN ON THAT DIRECTION.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY DO.

AND WE CAN MAKE IT OUR OWN.

CERTAINLY MAKE IT OUR OWN, BUT HAVING AN IDEA OF WHERE IT GOES, BECAUSE WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THINGS, SOMETIMES HAVING A PLAN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GO, OKAY, THIS IS THE PLAN THEY USE.

THIS IS NOT THE PLAN WE WANT TO USE.

THIS IS DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO FOR SHIRTS BECAUSE WE KNOW SHIRTS BETTER, BUT IT GIVES US THAT DIRECTION AND IDEA.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT LITTLE SPARK TO FIGURE IT OUT.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE IDEA IN, IN YOUR HEAD AND HOW YOU WANT THIS TO GO.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET THAT SAME IDEA.

IS IS KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING.

I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOUNT THE IDEA.

I JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SO WE CAN FOCUS IT AND BROADEN THE SCOPE.