Jul 01, 2025 City Council

COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

WE HAVE EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTIONS, UH, EMS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.

FIRST ON THE AGENDA,

[ Employee Introductions EMS - Part-time Paramedics: Hesham "Sam" Abielmona; Samantha Blackwell; Christopher Fierro; Sebastian Gonzalez-Lores; Blaine Leachman; and Michael McInnis. Parks & Recreation - Civic Center Coordinator Johnny Ruiz Police - Police Cadet Dash Harris Police - Public Safety Communications Officer Marcial Johnson Utility Billing - Utility Billing Specialist Maranda Chavez]

TONIGHT I HAVE SIX NEW EMPLOYEES I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU ALL PART-TIME PARAMEDICS WITH THE EMS DEPARTMENT.

FIRST UP, SAM ALBA.

UH, HE GREW UP IN FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA, MOVED TO SAN ANTONIO IN 2022.

HE OBTAINED HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION THROUGH TEAKS IN 2017 AND IS CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT ST.

PHILIP'S COLLEGE, UH, WORKING ON A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CYBERSECURITY.

UH, HE IS BEEN AN EMS FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND HE'S MARRIED WITH FOUR KIDS.

AND WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME SAM TO THE EMS DEPARTMENT.

THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

NEXT UP FOR YOU.

I HAVE BLAINE LEACHMAN.

UH, HE GREW UP IN SLO AND CURRENTLY LIVES ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

HE DOES PLAN ON MOVING BACK TO SLO SOMETIME SOON.

I ATTENDED NORTHEAST LAKEVIEW FOR PRE-NURSING AND BIOLOGY.

UH, ATTENDED THE NATIONAL EMS ACADEMY FOR HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION AND HE'S BEEN WORKING AT EMS FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

HE'S BEEN A PARAMEDIC FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

UH, BLA IS MARRIED TO HIS WIFE ELIZABETH, AND HE ENJOYS TRAINING FOR HALF MARATHONS PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY.

SO WELCOME TO BLAINE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

I HAVE SAMANTHA BLACKWELL.

THIRD UP FOR YOU.

UH, SHE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO AND CURRENTLY LIVES IN CONVERSE.

SHE ATTENDED TESS IN A NATIONAL EMS ACADEMY TO OBTAIN HER PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION.

SHE'S BEEN IN EMS SINCE 2021.

SAMANTHA IS MARRIED WITH SIX KIDS.

HER HUSBAND IS AN ARMY VET AND SHE LOVES SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND WATCHING FOOTBALL.

SO, WELCOME, SAMANTHA.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SERVE THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

GLAD TO HAVE YOUR BOARD NEXT UP FOR YOU.

I HAVE MIKE MCINNIS.

UH, HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM SAN ANTONIO, CURRENTLY LIVES IN SILLA.

HE OBTAINED HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS HEALTH AND SCIENCE CENTER.

UH, HE ATTENDED A PAR AMERICAN PUBLIC UNIVERSITY FOR ADDITIONAL COLLEGIATE STUDIES.

HE'S BEEN AN EMS FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS NOW AND HE'S MARRIED WITH FOUR KIDS.

HE'S RETIRED OUTTA THE ARMY AND ENJOYS FISHING, HUNTING AND DIRT BIKE RACING.

SO WELCOME MIKE.

THANK YOU COUNCIL, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY.

WELCOME TO OUR TEAM NEXT FOR YOU.

I HAVE CHRIS FIERRO.

UH, HE IS ORIGINALLY FROM EL PASO AND CURRENTLY LIVES IN BUL VERDE.

UH, HE ATTENDED THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER IN SAN ANTONIO FOR HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION AND HE HAS BEEN IN EMS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.

CHRIS IS CURRENTLY A FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTER AND PARAMEDIC FOR THE CITY OF CONVERSE AND WANTED MORE EXPERIENCE, SO HE CAME TO SHIRTZ FOR PART-TIME WORK.

SO WELCOME CHRIS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

ONE QUESTION, CHRIS, WE WE'RE IN EL PASO.

WHAT PART? UH, I WAS FROM CENTRAL.

I WENT TO BURGESS HIGH SCHOOL.

OH, WE GOT TWO BR GUYS HERE.

ALRIGHT, .

OH, FANTASTIC.

THEY'RE GONNA LOVE YOU OR HATE YOU, .

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I HAVE SEBASTIAN GONZALEZ LORE.

UH, HE MOVED AROUND A LOT AS A CHILD AND SPENT SOME TIME IN PERU, FLORIDA, CALIFORNIA, MONTANA, AND TEXAS.

BEFORE HE FINALLY SETTLED DOWN HERE IN NEW BRAUNFELS, SEBASTIAN ATTENDED, UH, ASSOCIATES IN EMERGENCY CARE TO OBTAIN HIS PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION.

HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH EMS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, THREE AND A HALF YEARS AS AN EMT AND THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AS A PARAMEDIC.

HE IS A US NAVY VET WHERE HE SERVED AS A

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HOSPITAL CORPSMAN.

SO WELCOME TO SEBASTIAN.

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING PART OF OUR TEAM.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.

APPRECIATE YOU JOINING THIS TEAM.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

NEXT WE HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

TODAY I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE JOHNNY RUIZ.

UM, HE'S BEEN THE CIVIC CENTER COORDINATOR FOR JUST ABOUT A MONTH NOW.

HIS BACKGROUND CONSISTS OF 10 YEARS OF EVENT COORDINATION AND OPERATIONS IN VENUES, INCLUDING THE FROST BANK CENTER, TOBIN CENTER, AND THE PEARL BREWERY IN SAN ANTONIO.

HE IS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON THE TEAM.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I JUST WANNA SAY, SINCE MY FIRST DAY OF ORIENTATION AND SETTLING IT WITH MY PHENOMENAL TEAM AT THE CIVIC CENTER AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MEETING SOME OF THE WONDERFUL RESIDENTS OF YOUR COMMUNITY, THE WELCOME I HAVE RECEIVED HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO A LONG TENURE, UH, WITH MY NEW SHIRTZ FAMILY.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF YOUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TONIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PLEASE HAVE A SAFE AND WONDERFUL EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

JOHNNY.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HELPING US WITH PROJECT FLAG LINE.

NEXT WE HAVE POLICE, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR, FOR HAVING US.

I GOT TWO TO INTRODUCE TO Y'ALL FOR TONIGHT.

FIRST I HAVE DASH AIRS.

HE COMES FROM US, UM, FROM ALABAMA, BUT HE'S MOVED ALL AROUND THE US.

UH, HE SERVED 10 YEARS AS AN EMT AND DECIDED TO GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

UH, HE JUST FINISHED THE ACA IN THE ACADEMY.

UH, HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND AND, UH, TWO AWESOME BROTHERS AND HE ENJOYS MOVIES, SPONSORS, AND COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

NEXT WE HAVE AJ DE DE, UH, DECA.

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT EVEN WANT TO PRONOUNCE YOUR FIRST NAME.

UH, HE ACTUALLY COMES FROM US FROM CONVERSE, PP UH, PD, WHERE HE ACTUALLY JUST RECEIVED OFFICER OF THE YEAR AND HE HAS SIX LICENSE, SEVEN WARS, BUT HIS BELT.

SO WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE HIM.

HE IS A VETERAN OF THE, OF THE ARMY.

UH, AND HE IS BORN AND RAISED IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA.

SO HE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH CHURCH AS WELL.

UH, HE'S MARRIED, HAS THREE KIDS AND HE ENJOYS FISHING AND WEIGHTS.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO, TO HAVE ALL BOTH OF THEM.

SO IF Y'ALL WANNA SAY ANYTHING, JUST GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING.

AND, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

WELL, WELCOME TO TAR TEAM GENTLEMEN.

AND NEXT WE HAVE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS.

HELLO, GOOD EVENING.

TONIGHT I HAVE MARSHALL JOHNSON.

HE WAS HIRED ON JUNE 2ND TO BE ONE OF OUR NEWEST COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS.

HE WAS BORN IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND GRADUATED FROM MOODY HIGH SCHOOL.

HE GREW UP WORKING VARIOUS JOBS, UH, WORKING IN MOVIE THEATER TO ABATEMENT IN THE REFINERY.

HE JOINED THE NAVY IN 1990 FOR FOUR YEARS, AND HE SERVED ON TWO AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND VISITED MULTIPLE COUNTRIES DURING HIS TIME SERVED.

AFTER HIS NAVY TIME, HE BEGAN HIS CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

STARTING OUT AT THE SAN SAN DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WORKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND ENDED UP AT LOS ANGELES COUNTY WHERE HE RETIRED IN MARCH OF 2021.

DURING HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER, HE WORKED AS A JAILER, A CANINE OFFICER, FTO FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR, AND NUMEROUS OTHER POSITIONS HE WAS ASSIGNED.

MARSHALL MET HIS WIFE WHILE STATIONED IN SAN DIEGO AND THEY'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 32 YEARS.

THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN, ONE SON AND TWO DAUGHTERS, FOUR GRANDSONS, AND ONE ENGLISH BULLDOG.

WHEN MARSHALL RETIRED, THEY MOVED TO SHIRTS AND ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE ALL OF THEIR CHILDREN LIVING IN TEXAS WITH THEM.

HE LOVES THE OCEAN AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OCEAN, INCLUDING FISHING, SAILING, AND CRUISING.

HE AND HIS WIFE TRIED TO TAKE AT LEAST ONE CRUISE A YEAR.

MARSHALL ALSO ENJOYS RIDING MOTORCYCLES, CONCERTS, AND TRAVELING WITH HIS FAMILY.

AND HE REALLY LIKES TO SPEND TIME, HIS FREE TIME SPOILING HIS GRANDKIDS.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO BECOME PART OF THE ERTZ FAMILY.

WELL, WELCOME TO TEXAS AND WELCOME TO OUR TEAM .

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NEXT WE HAVE UTILITY BILLING.

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ON BEHALF OF THE UTILITY BUILDING STAFF, WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. MIRANDA CHAVEZ.

UH, SHE WAS BORN IN PLAINVIEW, TEXAS, GREW UP IN SAN ANTONIO, NOW LIVES IN UNIVERSAL CITY.

UH, SHE LOVES SPENDING TIME WITH HER FAMILY OF HER FIANCE, HER SON, AND HER DOG DAISY.

UH, SHE DOES ENJOY SELF-CARE DAYS AND PLAYING SOFTBALL.

IN HER FREEING TIME.

SHE ALSO ENJOYS TRAVELING AND OF COURSE, THE BEST THING OF ALL SHOPPING.

UH, SHE DID START, UH, WITH THE UTILITY BILLING, UH, DEPARTMENT ON MAY OF, UH, MAY 19TH OF THIS YEAR.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS MIRANDA.

UM, I CAN TELL JUST FROM THE SHORT TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S BEEN GREAT.

I LOVE WORKING HERE.

I HAVE A GREAT TEACHER, GREAT COWORKERS, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR ME.

ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE 2025 4TH OF JULY JUBILEE.

[4. Presentations]

MESSY FLOOR'S.

YOURS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, UM, GOOD EVENING.

SO, 4TH OF JULY, JUBILEE IS THIS WEEK.

UM, IN CASE YOU'VE MISSED THE BILLBOARD AND ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND THINGS.

UM, SO WE STARTED IT OFF, UM, MONDAY MORNING, BRIGHT AND EARLY AT SEVEN 30 WITH PROJECT FLAG LINE.

SO WE, UM, PUT UP ALL THE FLAGS DOWN SHIRTS, PARKWAY.

UM, THERE'S 11 DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS COME OUT FOR, FOR, UM, AND WE WILL ALSO STILL TAKE VOLUNTEERS FOR TAKE DOWN, UM, WHICH WILL BE MONDAY, JULY 7TH, UM, AT 7:30 AM AS WELL.

UM, MARKETING.

SO BILLBOARD IS UP ON 35.

WE'LL STAY UP ON 35 THROUGH THIS WEEK AND COME DOWN NEXT WEEK.

UM, WE'VE SENT OUT MEDIA ADVISORIES AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY BEEN POSTING ON THE WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA MAGAZINE ARTICLES, EMAIL BLASTS, UM, AND ALL THE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS IN AVIATION HEIGHTS ALSO RECEIVED, UM, SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A MAIL, UM, KIND OF, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THE PARADE ROUTE AND LIKE DETOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT IF THEIR HOMES ARE AFFECTED BY THE, UM, ROAD CLOSURES, THEY KNOW HOW THEY CAN GET OUT, UM, FROM AVIATION HEIGHTS.

UM, WE'LL, ON THE 4TH OF JULY WE'LL KICK OFF OUR MORNING WITH A FREEDOM 5K, WHICH WILL STAGE IN THE, UH, BY THE CIVIC CENTER AND THEN COME OUT THE HOW MU HOW BALDWIN MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AND TURN ONTO SHIRTZ PARKWAY.

UM, THAT DOES FOLLOW THE PARADE ROUTE.

AND THEN AS SOON AS THEY HAVE PASSED THE PARADE ROUTE, THE PARADE WILL BEGIN.

UM, STAGING FOR THAT IS IN CLEMENS PARKING LOT AND WILL COME DOWN SHIRTS, PARKWAY TO MAIN STREET AND THEN 1518, AND THEN RETURN TO STAGING WILL BE ALONG ARROW.

SO HERE IS THE JUBILEE PARADE ROUTE FOR THOSE WHO ARE MORE VISUAL.

SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE WILL START THE OFFICIAL PARADE ROUTE, STARTS AT EL ELBOW ROAD AND COMES DOWN SHIRTS, PARKWAY TURNS ONTO MAIN STREET 1518.

AND THEN, UM, ARROW IS NOT TECHNICALLY PART OF THE, UM, PARADE ROUTE.

IT IS JUST THE RETURN TO STAGING.

SO NOT ALL ENTRIES WILL COME BACK THAT WAY.

UM, WE HAVE THE CARNIVAL AGAIN THIS YEAR, SO THAT WILL OPEN AT 11:00 AM AND IT'S LOCATED AT MEYER PARK.

SO JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM PICKER PARK.

AND THEN OUR JUBILEE EVENING PORTION WILL KICK OFF AT 6:00 PM WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC WITH GUNPOWDER SOUP.

UM, OUR FOOD TRUCKS ARE OPEN.

WE'VE GOT 16 DIFFERENT FOOD TRUCKS AND DRINK TRUCKS.

UM, OUR FAMILY ZONE FLOATING FIREWORKS, WHICH IS SOLD OUT.

IT IS, WE DO NOT SELL TICKETS AT THE DOOR FOR THAT ONE.

THERE IS CAPACITY AT THE POOL, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, AND ALL OF THIS WILL BE LOCATED IN PICK PARK, AND WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH THE FIREWORKS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON THE NEXT, UM, ONE.

SO 7:00 PM WE HAVE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WELCOME.

AND THEN NINE 13 IS WHEN WE WILL START THE STAR SPAND BANNER, FOLLOWED BY AROUND NINE 15.

AS SOON AS THEY HIT THAT LAST NOTE OF THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER, THE FIREWORKS SHOW WILL GO OFF.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.

YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE STARTED OFF, UH, ON MONDAY.

UH, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SITE, YOU KNOW, THREE MILES OF THE PARKWAY WITH 6,000 FLAGS.

YEAH, IT DOES MAKE AN IMPRESSION.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GUERRERO? YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT ON MONDAY IS THE TEAR DOWN.

MM-HMM .

WHAT TIME? 7:30 AM 7:30 AM YEP.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

HI, NEXT WE HAVE THE TAMMY AWARDS.

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UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M DEVIN CHRISTENSEN, THE INTERIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, AND I'M HERE WITH TATUM HEARN, OUR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALISTS.

UM, SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS YEAR'S, UM, TAMMY AWARDS, WHICH IS THE, UM, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL INFORMATION OFFICERS.

UM, SO I RECENTLY ATTENDED THE, UM, CONFERENCE THIS YEAR, UM, AND WE WON ONE AWARD FOR OUR INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS FOR OUR CITY ORIENTATION VIDEO.

UM, AND WE WON THE AWARD OF EXCELLENCE, WHICH IS SECOND PLACE.

UM, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

SO IT WAS A, UM, DEVELOPED AS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN HR AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS, UM, TO KIND OF ENHANCE OUR ORIENTATION FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.

UM, SO, UM, AND THE, THE PLAN IS TO REFRESH IT EVERY FEW YEARS JUST TO KEEP IT CURRENT WITH, UM, CURRENT STAFF AND DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT HR IS PUTTING ON.

UM, SO SOME OF OUR GOALS OF THE VIDEO, UM, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE NEW EMPLOYEES WITH, UM, A POSITIVE AND WELCOMING INTRODUCTION TO THE CITY.

UM, SO WE HAVE FEATURE FROM MR. STEVE WILLIAMS, UM, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE CITY AND THEN WE SHOWCASE OUR CITY'S CULTURE.

UM, SO KIND OF, UH, EVENTS THAT, UH, HR IS PUTTING ON FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.

AND THEN WE ALSO JUST WANTED TO ENHANCE THAT ORIENTATION PROCESS TO GIVE THEM MORE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT'S LIKE WORKING FOR, FOR THE CITY AND GIVE THEM A WARM WELCOME.

SO I'M EXCITED TO WIN THAT AWARD FOR THAT, UH, THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE AWARD.

UH, IT, IT, UM, IT JUST BEING SECOND PLACE, I MEAN, IT SHOWS THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE HAD AND IN THIS CASE TO, UH, OUR NEW EMPLOYEES.

AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU WITH THAT, UH, COUNCIL FLOOR'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

SEE NO QUESTIONS, NO COMMENTS.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, NEXT IS, UH, CITY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND EVENTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS.

[ City Events and Announcements Announcements of upcoming City Events (B.James/S.Gonzalez) Announcements and recognitions by the City Manager (S.Williams) Announcements and recognitions by the Mayor (R.Gutierrez)]

MS. GONZALEZ? YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, SO THE FIRST THING ON HERE IS CASSIE WENT OVER EARLIER, JUST ALL THE FESTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE THIS FRIDAY ON JULY 4TH.

HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT THERE FOR THAT.

UM, CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, JULY 4TH AS WELL.

UM, WE HAVE ON SATURDAY, JULY 12TH, THE NATURE DISCOVERY SERIES AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK.

THIS IS FROM NINE 30 TO 11:30 AM AND THEN ALSO THAT DAY, UM, IN THE EVENING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MUSIC AND MOVIES IN THE PARK.

IT'LL BE A FLOAT AND FLICK.

THE MOVIE IS FINDING NEMO AND THAT STARTS AT 7:00 PM AND THEN OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE BACK HERE JULY 15TH AT 6:00 PM THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY OUR CITY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MR. JAMES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, A FEW TO RECOGNIZE A FEW CITY STAFF PEOPLE.

SO JONI JOHNSON IN THE LIBRARY, UH, THIS PAST MONTH WAS PROMOTED FROM LIBRARY ASSISTANT TO LIBRARY TECHNICIAN.

UH, EARLIER TONIGHT WE RECOGNIZED DASH HARRIS, WHO WAS PROMOTED FROM POLICE CADET TO POLICE OFFICER.

AND THEN FINALLY, MATTHEW MIRO WAS, UH, PROMOTED FROM REGISTERED HVAC TECH TO A CERTIFIED HVAC TECH AS WELL.

SO CONGRATS TO ALL OF THEM.

THANK YOU, MR. JAMES.

IT'S CONCERNING COUNCIL'S BUDGET.

THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY THE MAYOR.

I DO HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, PROJECT FLAG LINE WITH A STRONG DISPLAY OF PATRIOTISM.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP US PUT THAT TOGETHER.

TOOK LESS THAN AN HOUR TO PUT 6,000 FLAGS SIX MILES ROAD.

THANKS SO MUCH.

IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND, AND I, I COULDN'T SAY, UH, THE IMPACT IT HAS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT KICKS OFF OUR 4TH OF JULY JUBILEE.

SO THANK YOU TO THE VOLUNTEERS.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MENTION TO THE COUNCIL THAT THERE IS A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR JULY 15TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

IF YOU CAN MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR THAT, UH, WORKSHOP.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON.

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UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A HEARING OF RESIDENCE.

THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WE ALSO HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE.

YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE HEARING OF RESIDENCE.

YOU CAN HOLD OFF UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING OR YOU CAN SPEAK AT BOTH.

THE OPTION IS YOURS, MAYOR PEARL TEMP.

PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, UM, MS. REBECCA ROBLES.

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WELL, HI.

HELLO MAYOR.

HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS REBECCA ROBLES.

I LIVE AT FIVE 13 PECAN.

UH, I AM A RESIDENT OF SHIRTS SINCE 2007.

I'M A NURSE PRACTITIONER.

I'VE BEEN A NURSE FOR 32 YEARS, A PRACTITIONER FOR ALMOST 10, AND I'M ALSO A UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE VETERAN.

UM, I'M COMING TODAY BECAUSE Y'ALL DID MAKE A DECISION TO CHANGE TO FRONTIER WAIST AND THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GO TO SOMETHING MECHANICAL, ESPECIALLY FOR THESE, THE, THE MEN WHO DO THIS JOB, UH, FOR, TO REDUCE THOSE ON THE JOB INJURIES, BUT TAKING OUT THE TRASH.

IT IS, IT'S DANGEROUS.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT IT REALLY IS.

UM, AS A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL, CLAIMS ARE PUT IN MILLIONS OF CLAIMS ON A DAILY FOR INJURIES SUCH AS STRAINS, BRA SPRAINS, SHOULDER INJURIES, HERNIAS.

AND THAT IS FROM SIMPLY TAKING OUT THE TRASH.

THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD HERE IN SHIRTS HAS 2.8 PEOPLE.

ONE PERSON CREATES ABOUT FOUR POUNDS OF TRASH PER DAY.

THAT DOESN'T EQUATE TO A 95 GALLON CAN.

THAT CAN, IF YOU DID NOT KNOW THESE DIMENSIONS STANDS FOUR FEET TALL AND IT WEIGHS EMPTY 49 POUNDS.

THAT IS A LOT OF OF WEIGHT.

AND YOU SAY, WELL, IT'S GOT WHEELS AND YOU CAN PUSH IT.

THEN IT'S TIME TO PUT 'EM AWAY, REVERSE IT.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT ERGONOMICS, ERGONOMICALLY SAFETY, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUSH SOMETHING AND MY ELBOW SHOULD BE AT, AT 90 DEGREES.

I STAND FIVE FOOT ONE.

THAT CAN IS UP HERE WHEN I PUSH IT.

SO I'M AT HIGHER RISK FOR INJURY, WHICH THEN WOULD INCREASE HEALTHCARE COSTS.

THE SECOND LEADING COST OF DEATH IN THIS COUNTRY FROM A NON OR A PREVENTABLE INJURY IS A FALL.

WE HAVE A LARGE SENIOR COMMUNITY.

LOTS OF VETERANS AND NOT ALL HEALTHCARE LIMITATIONS ARE VISIBLE.

I PERSONALLY JUST HAD ABDOMINAL SURGERY.

I CAN'T PUSH THAT CAN, I CAN'T CLEAN IT.

I CAN'T LEARN, LIFT IT AND TURN IT TO SANITIZE AND CLEAN IT LIKE I DID MY 32 CAN.

UM, I THINK THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE, WELL YES, IT WAS GREAT.

UH, I THINK ONE THING WE'RE MISSING WAS THAT OPTION TO, FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THEM, THERE IS BENEFIT TO CHOOSING A SMALLER CAN.

A SMALLER CAN REDUCES WASTE.

WE REDUCE TONNAGE IN THAT WHOLE RRR RIGHT? REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US IF WE COULD HAVE THAT OPTION.

I'VE CALLED FRONTIER, THEY DON'T.

BUT IF WE CAN GET THE COUNCIL TO TRY TO PUSH THEM TO GIVE SOME OPTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN BE SAFER, HEALTHIER, LESS INJURY, DRIVE HEALTHCARE COSTS DOWN, AND HOPEFULLY DO A LITTLE BIT, UH, SAVING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND SAVING COSTS FOR THE CITY.

I THINK I WOULD, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HAVE DANA, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ALRIGHTY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DANA GIGGY AND I LIVE AT 38 25 OVERLOOK DRIVE, WHICH IS A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY IN SHIRTS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK TRASH.

UH, WE'VE MADE THIS CHANGE AND MYSELF AS WELL AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO NO LONGER RECYCLE.

AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO HUGE TRASH BARRELS EITHER IN OUR GARAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT 'EM SITTING OUTSIDE.

'CAUSE THE YELLOW LIDS, OH MY GOSH, I THINK YOU CAN SEE 'EM FROM THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.

UM, I HAVE, I'VE LIVED HERE SIX YEARS.

I'VE NEVER HAD A TRASH CAN.

I DON'T GENERATE MUCH WASTE.

YOU KNOW, MY LITTLE KITCHEN, ONE ON TRASH DAY, I CARRY IT OUT AND PUT IT AT THE CURB.

IT TAKES ME TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO FILL UP WITH THAT LITTLE BITTY RECYCLE BIN.

AND SO NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME I HAVE TO HAVE THESE TWO HUGE, HUGE BINS.

I QUIT RECYCLING LAST WEEK AND I STILL HAVEN'T FILLED UP MY LITTLE KITCHEN TRASH CAN IN A WEEK.

AND I'M PUTTING ALL MY RECYCLING IN THERE.

IF THERE'S SOME OPTIONS, I KNOW MY SISTER JUST MOVED TO SAN MARCUS AND THEY CALLED AND THEY HAVE OPTIONS FOR SMALLER ONES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SO HEAVY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT CANNOT PUSH 'EM OUT TO THE CURB, CAN'T PULL 'EM.

JUST HAD ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TWO WEEKS BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO DO HIS TRASH AND IT GOT AWAY FROM HIM AND HE TRIED TO CHASE IT AND FELL AND ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TWO WEEKS.

SO I DUNNO WHETHER THERE'S SOME OPTIONS FOR SOME SMALLER ONES OR WHAT THERE IS THAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT I REALLY HATE NOT RECYCLING, BUT I JUST CAN'T SEE HAVING THOSE TWO HUGE TRASH CANS IN MY GARAGE.

AND THEN WHEN IT'S TIME I HAVE TO BACK MY CAR OUT OF THE GARAGE, PUT MY TRASH CANS OUT, PULL MY CAR BACK IN THE GARAGE,

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AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR, OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING GOOD.

SO WE DON'T WANT TRASH CANS SITTING OUT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGES.

DON'T WANT 'EM SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE YELLOW LIDS.

SO ANYTHING YOU COULD DO WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

I HAVE, UM, MICHELLE TURLESKI, MICHELLE TURLESKI 7 0 5 MARYLAND DRIVE AND SHIRTS.

OF COURSE, I'M GONNA TALK TRASH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRASH.

I HAVE A DITCH BEHIND ME.

AND IT'S A LOVELY DITCH FROM TIME TO TIME.

HOWEVER, THAT DITCH IS NOW HIGHER WITH WEEDS AND GRASS THAN MY EASEMENT.

SO I'M REQUESTING CODE ENFORCEMENT TO COME OUT AND WRITE UP THE OWNER OF THAT DITCH WHO HAPPENS TO BE A PERSONAL FRIEND TO ALL OF YOU UP THERE SO THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MOSQUITOES OR WEEDS IN MY YARD OR WORRY ABOUT SNAKES OR POSSUMS OR RACCOONS.

I LOVE THE DEER.

THE DEER ARE GONE, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE SOMEBODY LOOKING AFTER THAT DITCH AND MOWING.

MARK.

IS THAT CORRECTLY OR CLOSE? YES.

A DISCUSSION ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R 0 8 0 AUTHORIZING THE APPLICATION TO FEMA FOR STAFFING ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE GRANT PROGRAM.

UM, MY NAME IS MARK TU AND I'M, I LIVE AT 1 8 9 4 0 OLD STEIN ROAD.

AND, UM, I'M GOING TO SPEAK REGARDING, UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, ORDINANCE TWO FIVE S 0 2 7.

AND THAT'S THE PROPOSED REZONING OF A PIECE OF LAND ALONG OLD STEIN ROAD.

AND, UH, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS BEEN PART OF TWO PREVIOUS PROPOSALS TO REZONE IT, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE FAILED.

AND THE REASON FOR IT TO, AND WHILE THIS REZONING PROPOSAL IS PART OF A DIFFERENT PROJECT, THE REASONS TO VOTE IT DOWN ARE THE SAME.

THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA TO SUPPORT THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT'S INTENDING TO BE BUILT THERE.

OLD STEIN ROAD DOES NOT PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY.

THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS HAVE NO SUPPORT, NO INTEREST IN THIS.

AND THERE IS NO, NO METHOD IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S BUILT THERE IS GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE INTENDED USE OF, OF A SENIOR LIVING.

[7. Consent Agenda Items The Consent Agenda is considered self-explanatory and will be enacted by the Council with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless they are removed from the Consent Agenda upon the request of the Mayor or a Councilmember.]

MOVE ON.

CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY AND INFORMATION PACKETS ARE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING.

THESE ITEMS REQUIRE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.

ITEM NUMBER ONE MINUTES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS OR RESIGNATIONS OF CITY ASSURES, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R 0 7 2.

AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R 0 8 4.

COUNSEL, DO ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE ACTION? SEE NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

SO MOVE.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON COUNCIL.

ANY COMMENTS? IF NONE CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.

IF WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.

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[5. Resolution 25-R-080 - Authorizing an application to FEMA for the Staffing Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Grant Program (S.Williams/G.Rodgers)]

CHIEF FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MR. JAMES, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

AND, UH, I COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ASK YOU FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR CITY MANAGER STEVE WILLIAMS TO SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF OF THE CITY OF CHURCH TO FEMA FOR A SAFER GRANT, WHICH IS STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PERSONNEL.

IT'S A GRANT THAT COMES AROUND GENERALLY EVERY YEAR.

UM, SINCE THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED, UH, THEY'VE DONE APPROXIMATELY $22.5 MILLION A YEAR ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

UM, THIS YEAR SPECIFICALLY, THEY BROKE IT INTO TWO PIECES, UH, DUE TO THE DOGE PORTION OF IT.

SO NOW WE'RE OPEN TO THIS END OF THE YEAR AND WE WANTED TO BE PART OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO JUST A QUICK SUMMARY ON WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.

AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S TWO FEMA, SO IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THEM AS PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO COMMUNITIES MUCH LIKE US BECAUSE THE IMPACT IS SIGNIFICANT FINANCIALLY, UH, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THAT OVER TIME RATHER THAN TO INCUR THE COST RIGHT UP FRONT.

AND THE GOAL, OBVIOUSLY, IS A SAFER, UH, LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT ABILITY, BUT IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH MEETING NFPA STANDARD 1710, WHICH IS ABOUT THE STAFFING OF FIRE APPARAT ADEQUATELY WITH THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PERSONNEL.

SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHERE WE ARE IN A THREE, IT'S A THREE YEAR PROGRAM, UH, EACH YEAR IS A PERCENTAGE THAT WE WOULD PAY IN A PERCENTAGE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD PAY, UH, FOR US AS WELL.

SO AS YOU SEE, I WILL USE IT.

IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT EVERY YEAR AS FAR AS TOTAL.

SO IT'S $659,882.

WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE A HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR, NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY, AND 4 94.

NINE 11 WOULD BE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE WOULD PAY THAT PART UP FRONT.

THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US FOR THAT AFTER THE FACT.

UM, BUT THE LAST YEAR IS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AS I SAID, UH, WE WOULD PICK UP 65% AND THEY WOULD PICK UP 35% ALL TOLL FOR THE GRANT.

BASICALLY THREE YEARS WOULD EQUATE TO WHAT WE PAY IS WOULD EQUATE TO ONE YEAR EACH TIME.

SO IT'S QUITE A SAVINGS.

AND OVERALL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM, THE FEDERAL PORTION IS ABOUT $1.22 MILLION THAT WE WOULD BE RELIEVED OF SPENDING.

SO THE APPLICATION PERIOD IS DUE ON JULY 3RD.

UH, WE WOULD GET THAT PROCESS DONE, THEY WOULD REVIEW THROUGH AUGUST, AND THEN THE AWARD NOTIFICATION WOULDN'T COME TILL SOMETIME SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.

SO ULTIMATELY WE WOULD BE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR ALTOGETHER.

QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, 25% THE, THE FIRST YEAR, 25% THE SECOND YEAR, AND THEN THE THIRD YEAR GO, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, IT GOES UP TO 65.

HOW WAS THE, UH, THE SIX, UM, SIX POSITIONS DETERMINED? SO, UM, WHEN WE OPEN A FIRE STATION, WE STAFF THAT APPARATUS WITH FOUR PERSONNEL ACROSS THREE SHIFTS.

SO THAT'S TOTAL OF 12 THAT WE NEED TO HIRE.

WE'VE HIRED SIX, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE LAST SIX THROUGH THE GRANT, UH, TO RELIEVE THE CITY OF SUFFOLK SCHOOL.

GOOD DEAL.

ALRIGHT, SO THERE'LL BE STAFFED ACROSS ALL THREE SHIFTS.

WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, SO WHAT'S, I GUESS MAYBE NOT FOR YOU, BUT MAYBE FOR THE, FOR BRIAN, AFTER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD, WE, IT IS JUST GONNA BE ABSORBED THROUGH OUR GENERAL FUND.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK, AND THE CHIEF CAN EXPLAIN THIS, I THINK THE WAY WE VIEW THIS IS WE'RE OPENING THE FIRE STATION.

WE'RE GONNA HIRE THESE FIREFIGHTERS REGARDLESS.

AND WITHOUT A GRANT, THE CITY WOULD PICK UP THE ENTIRE COST OF THOSE FIREFIGHTERS WE MIGHT HIRE A BIT LATER BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO PICK UP THE FULL COST.

SO I THINK THE WAY CITY STAFF USE THIS IS AS A BENEFIT.

IT'S SOMEONE ELSE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE, UH, THE COST OF HIRING THESE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE NEED TO DO EITHER WAY LET'S US HIRE THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THEY CAN GET UP TO SPEED, BE TRAINED, COVER THAT.

UH, SO WE THINK IT'S REALLY A WIN-WIN.

IT, IT COVERS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF EITHER WAY.

AND, AND OBVIOUSLY LONG TERM WE'LL BEAR THE COST OF THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, SIR.

I WOULD ADD, UM, THE GREAT PART OF, IF, IF WE DO GET THE GRANT IS WE CAN HIRE THE SIX, WE WILL BE FULL AT 17 PER SHIFT AND COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THE LADDER TRUCK IN SERVICE FULL TIME WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE FIRE TRUCK TO BE COMPLETED.

SO THE 17 PER SHIFT IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THE NFPA 1710 RESPONDING.

IT ALLOWS JUST HAVE FOUR PER PER FIRE TRUCK.

YEP.

WHICH, WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH NFPA 1717.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO? YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION CHIEF.

UH, WE'RE PAYING,

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IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THAT OCCURRED OR, WELL, I, NO, THAT WE WEREN'T.

IT COMES OUT AND THEY TELL US WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS.

YEARS AGO IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 2020 AND 20.

THEN LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE LAST IT WAS 10, 10 AND 10.

SO WE WOULD'VE ONLY INCURRED 10%.

GOTCHA.

UH, AFTER THOSE AGAIN CAME OUT, THEY CHANGED THE PERCENTAGES TO 25, 25 AND 65.

IT IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SUBMISSIONS, I FEEL THAT IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT, IT KIND OF PUSHED SOME PEOPLE AWAY.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY, BUT THE NUMBER OF SUBMISSIONS AFTER REOPENING IS VERY LOW.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND AS OF YESTERDAY, WHEREAS THERE NORMALLY IN BETWEEN SIX AND 7,000 A YEAR.

COUNSEL, ANY KNOW COMMENTS? CHIEF? I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR THIS GRANT.

UH, AS YOU SAID, WE'RE BUILDING A WHOLE NEW FIRE STATION NOW WE GOTTA MANDATE IT AND IT COSTS MONEY TO BUILD AND IT COSTS MONEY TO STAFF IT.

AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO TRY TO BUDGET THE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE AT THE END, AFTER THREE YEARS, IT'S ALL OURS.

YES SIR.

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT ALL.

UH, BUT IT DOES HELP, UH, OUR CITY AND OTHER CITIES THAT ARE, ARE, THAT ARE GROWING WHERE THE EXPENSE IS VERY HIGH AT THE BEGINNING.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

I WANTED A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 25 R 0 8 0.

I'LL SECOND HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN COUNCIL.

NUMBER SIX, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R 0 7 0 APPROVE APPROVING THE GUADALUPE APPRAISAL DISTRICT REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION AND RENOVATIONS OF TWO 16 E EAST COLLEGE STREET, SEIN, TEXAS.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

ITEM

[6. Resolution 25-R-070 - Approving the Guadalupe Appraisal District Real Estate Acquisition and Renovation of 216 E College Street, Seguin, TX (Mayor/S.Williams)]

AND, AND IT WAS BECOMING, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL TO DO SO, SO WE HAD TO START LOOKING AT REMEDIES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL TODAY TO, UH, BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

UM, UH, A PROJECT THAT WE'VE, UH, BEEN, UM, DISCUSSING THROUGH MYSELF AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UH, FOR THE LAST 12, 14 MONTHS.

UM, DEALING WITH THE, THE OPERATIONAL STRAIN WE'VE REACHED WITH OUR CURRENT FACILITY.

UH, WE, THE FACILITY ITSELF, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 84, UM, ADDED ON IN 2008, UH, TO A TOTAL OF ABOUT 8,800 SQUARE FEET.

UM, IN, IN THE 17 YEARS SINCE THAT ADDITION, UH, WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE, OOPS, EXCUSE ME.

UM, YEAH, WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OF OUR FUNCTIONAL, UH, SPACE IN THIS FACILITY, AND WE, WE WERE LOOKING FOR REMEDIES, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT AS WE EXPECT THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 17 TO CONTINUE, UH, IN, INTO THE FUTURE.

UH, SO WE DECIDED TO PUT TOGETHER A, A 20 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN ON MEETING THE NEEDS AS AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, FOR THE, UH, CLIENTS, UH, YOU ALL THE GOVERNING BODIES THAT WE, WE SERVE.

SO HERE WE GO.

SO, UH, THIS ALL CULMINATED WITH THE RESOLUTION PASSED BY MY, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS AFTER, UH, AGAIN, ABOUT 14 MONTHS OF, UM, REVIEW AND DUE DILIGENCE AND DISCUSSIONS.

UH, THIS ALLOWED US, BECAUSE THE TAX CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC, UH, ON, UH, APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WHO WANT TO EITHER RENOVATE THEIR EXISTING OR, UM, PURCHASE NEW AND, AND, AND, UH, ACQUIRE PROPERTY.

UH, WE HAVE TO GET FOUR, UH, EXCUSE ME, THREE FOURTHS APPROVAL FROM OUR GOVERNING BODIES, UH, OF THE ENTITIES WE SERVE, UH, THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE FOR APPOINTMENT TO OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 33, BUT 28 ARE ACTUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR THAT VOTE STATUS.

UH, SO THEREFORE WE NEED 21 OF OUR, UH, ENTITIES TO APPROVE THROUGH RESOLUTION.

UM, WITH THE, UH, THE BOARD'S, UH, PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTION BACK ON MAY 7TH, IT ALLOWED ME TO BEGIN, UM, THESE PRESENTATIONS TO, TO THE GOVERNING BODIES.

UH, WE DO OBVIOUSLY A LOT, BIT, A LOT MORE THAN JUST APPRAISAL.

OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THEY GET OUR, OUR NOTICE OF APPRAISAL IN, IN THE SPRINGTIME.

BUT, UH, IT'S VERY MUCH A TAXPAYER, UH, RESOURCE TYPE, UM, ORGANIZATION.

WE MANAGE ALL, ALL, UH, ELIGIBLE, UH, TAX EXEMPTIONS FROM FROM AVALOR TAXATION.

UH, WE ALSO MAINTAIN, UH, THE APPRAISAL ROLE FOR OWNERSHIP FOR THE PURPOSE OF, OF UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE LEVIES.

UM, CONSTANT CHANGING OF OUR MAPS.

BUT THE MAIN THING THAT REALLY, UH, BROUGHT THE ATTENTION TO MY BOARD MYSELF, WHO BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD BACK, UH, LAST YEAR, WAS THE FACT THAT WE'RE AVERAGING OVER 24,000 APPEALS ANNUALLY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

UM, WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 75 TO 80 DAYS A YEAR TO GET THROUGH THOSE APPEALS SO THAT WAY WE CAN CERTIFY TIMELY TO OUR, TO OUR ENTITIES.

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SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REACHED IN THE LAST, UH, 14 YEARS OR SO, 17 YEARS, WE'VE REACHED ABOUT 200,000 IN THIS COUNTY.

YOU'LL SEE THE AERIAL ON THE LEFT.

UM, THAT WAS WHEN, UH, 2008, RIGHT AFTER THEY ADDED THAT STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.

APOLOGIES.

AND, UH, TO THE RIGHT, THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED OBVIOUSLY IS WE HAVE A, UM, PARKING LOT TO MAKE IT A BIT SAFER FOR, FOR THE TAXPAYERS AS THEY COME IN, UH, TO VISIT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE THE FACILITY CHALLENGES WE HAVE.

THIS IS OUR LOBBY DURING LAST YEAR, DURING THE APPEAL SEASON, UH, WHEN PEOPLE ARE TIMELY SUBMITTING THEIR APPEALS, UH, YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY IT, IT, IT'S VERY CROWDED IN THERE.

IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE OUR A DA VISITORS, OBVIOUSLY MANEUVERABILITY IN THERE CAN BE DIFFICULT.

UH, THE PARKING LOT THAT WE TOLD YOU ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONE, UM, ACCESS, INGRESS EGRESS POINT, UH, THAT CAN GET VERY, UM, DANGEROUS DURING HIGH PERIODS OF, OF TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WITH 1 23, UH, BUSINESS.

NOW, UM, PICKING UP SOME QUICK, UH, PHOTOS HERE OF OUR INTERIOR OF, OF CURRENTLY OUR WORKSTATIONS, UH, INADEQUATE RESTROOMS IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUAL OCCUPANCY RESTROOMS TO SUPPLY 40, UH, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE, ARE THERE FOR, FOR BUSINESS THAT DAY.

UH, WORKSTATION, WE'VE GOT OVER 200 DEVICES NOW AT THIS POINT.

UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL TAKING CARE OF THAT IN, IN A VERY SMALL ROOM WITH THE SERVERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, UNDERSIZED MAIL ROOM, I SAY, IS BECAUSE WE TRY TO, OBVIOUSLY TAXPAYER FUNDS, WE TRY TO SAVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

ANYTHING UNDER A THOUSAND UNITS, WE'LL DO IN-HOUSE MAILING JUST TO, UH, SAVE THE, THE COST WITH THE VENDOR.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM IN THERE TO DO.

SO THE INSUFFICIENT BREAK ROOM ASPECT IS WHEN THE BOARD MEMBERS, THE A RB APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD, UH, ARE IN SESSION, THEY'LL USE OUR BREAK ROOM.

'CAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

UM, IT'S A, ANY PART TAKE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN MY STAFF AND THEM IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR.

SO A LOT OF TIMES MY STAFF CHOOSE JUST TO BE SAFE.

THEY'LL EAT IN THEIR, UM, CARS DURING LUNCHTIME OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, RESTRICTED WALKWAYS, OF COURSE, WE REPURPOSED, UM, UH, ALL THE SPACES AS WE GREW.

YOU KNOW, WE REPURPOSED SUPERVISOR UP IN THE DUAL OCCUPANCY.

UH, THESE ARE CLOSETS, STORAGE CLOSETS THAT WE TURNED INTO WORK STATIONS, UH, UH, OUT IN THE, UH, HALLWAYS, LARGE AREAS.

WE, WE PUT SOME WORKSTATIONS AS NEEDED.

CONFERENCE ROOMS, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO HAVE ORGANIZATIONAL WIDE, UH, INSTRUCTION, UH, TRAINING.

UM, IT CAN BE VERY, AGAIN, CROWDED IN THIS ONE SMALL LITTLE AREA.

UH, WE DID LOSE, WHICH WAS A BENEFIT OF THE 2008 RENOVATION.

WE LOST THE BENEFIT OF A PUBLIC RESEARCH ROOM BECAUSE WE HAD TO REPURPOSE THAT INTO OUR SECOND A RB PANEL, SO THAT WAY WE COULD MEET THE, THE CHALLENGES OF, OF THE TIME OF, OF GETTING THROUGH CERTIFICATION.

UM, LOOKING AHEAD, OBVIOUSLY THIS TRIANGLE, EVERYBODY KNOWS POPULATION STUDIES.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE AS FORECASTED BY MANY, UH, AND WE'RE RIGHT ALONG THAT BOTTOM LINE THERE.

I BELIEVE IT.

WE WILL DEFINITELY BE IMPACTED BY ALL THAT.

THE EXPECTATION FOR OUR COUNTY IS, UH, GETTING UP CLOSE TO 300,000 IN THIS 20 YEAR PERIOD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UH, SO WE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF FROM 2025 TO 2045 TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE OPERATIONAL NEEDS, UM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE HOPEFULLY SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN OUR POSITION AT THAT TIME.

SO WE LOOKED AT FACILITY SPACING, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, STAFFING NEEDS, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES, AS WELL AS TRAINING.

UM, ONE ASPECT THAT, UH, THE FACILITY HAS TAKEN FROM US IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO INFORMAL, UH, IN FACE INFORMALS, UH, WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL COME IN, SIT DOWN WITH US, HOPEFULLY WE RESOLVE IT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY, UH, SEND IT TO THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD.

THAT SAVES TAXPAYER TIME AS WELL AS THEIR FUNDING, UH, FUNDS AS WELL.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW IT, RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S GOT A LOT OF NEW IT.

WE, WE HAVE SOME GREAT IT TOOLS FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, IF THEY DON'T TRUST IT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA USE IT.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THIS NEW FACILITY IS HAVE A DEDICATED TRAINING ROOM THAT WE CAN BRING THE PUBLIC IN ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, MAYBE TRAIN THEM ON EXACTLY ALL THESE NEW IT TOOLS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INCORPORATING OVER THIS NEXT 20 YEAR PERIOD.

UH, SO THAT WAY THEY'LL FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO USE IT.

OUR RESOLVE RATE USED TO BE AROUND 70, OR EXCUSE ME, IN THE HIGH EIGHTIES FOR THE INFORMALS.

WE'VE ACTUALLY TANKED A BIT DOWN TO ABOUT 72, 73.

AND THAT CAUSES MORE TIME.

IT CAUSES MORE FUNDING TO BE SPENT BECAUSE OF THAT.

I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE CAN'T BRING THE PUBLIC IN, UH, FOR THOSE IN FACE INFORMALS THAT WE CAN WITH THIS REMEDY WE'RE PROVIDING TO YOU TODAY.

UH, AS A TIER ONE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, MUCH LIKE ANY METRO AREA, WE'RE UNDER THE SAME COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE AS BEXAR COUNTY OR, UH, UH, TARRAN OR TRAVIS ANY, UH, DALLAS AREA AS WELL AS HOUSTON.

UH, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THESE FOUR AREAS.

AGAIN, MY MAIN PRIORITY IS THE TAXPAYER REMEDIES.

WE CAN HANDLE MOST OF THE STUFF UP TOP THERE.

UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR TAXPAYERS ARE ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE A QUALITY, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN, SIT DOWN WITH ONE OF MY APPRAISAL STAFF, AND HOPEFULLY RESOLVE THEIR APPEAL, THEIR CONCERNS FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR, UH, BEFORE WE OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE THEM WITH, UH, THE FORMAL REVIEW.

AND THEN OF COURSE, AFTERWARDS THE BINDING ARBITRATION.

SO OUR PROPOSAL THAT THAT CAME ABOUT,

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UM, IS PURCHASING AN OLD, UM, 1914 BUILDING, UH, THE OLD MARY B ERSKINE, UM, SCHOOL, PREVIOUSLY OWNED BY THE SAG ISD UNTIL 2022 WHEN THE DEVELOPER, UH, PURCHASED IT IN A BLIND AUCTION.

UH, INITIALLY 1914.

I, I'VE KIND OF SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA GET ANYTHING ANYWHERE NEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS AGE AND ALL THE, UH, ASPECTS, THE CHALLENGES OF, OF BUILDING OF THAT AGE, BUT DID TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

A LOT OF THE RETROFITTING BY THE ISD WAS DONE BEFORE THEIR SALE IN 22.

SO IT MADE IT A VIABLE OPTION TO BRING TO MY BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, WE DID DECIDE THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE THE BEST OPTION, UH, MOVING FORWARD ON A NUMBER OF CRITERIA.

UH, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF, OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

THE, THE PLAT OR THE LOT ITSELF IS A FULL ONE, A FOUR ACRE TRACK IN THE CITY OF SEIN IN THE, IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR RIGHT ON IT.

UM, WE ENTERED IN ONCE MY BOARD DECIDED IN DECEMBER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.

UH, WE ENTERED IN SOME AGREEMENTS WITH THE ARCHITECTURES, UH, PROFESSIONALS TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, HERE, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, ADD A PARKING LOT TO THE LEFT THERE.

BUT THE MAIN ASPECT OF THIS RENOVATION PURCHASE, UM, A PROPOSAL IS THE MAIN THREE STORY STRUCTURE.

INITIALLY, THERE IS A GYMNASIUM AND A CAFETERIA ATTACHED, UM, THAT CAN BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY NEEDS, UH, THAT WE CAN DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH ONCE IT'S AVAILABLE, ONCE IT'S READY FOR USE.

BUT, UH, LET'S SEE HERE, HERE'S THE BOTTOM FLOOR JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE AREAS OF, UH, WHAT WE THINK WE CAN USE.

UM, ONCE IT'S BEEN RENOVATED, THERE'S THAT TRAINING ROOM ON THE LEFT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT.

THE A RB WILL HAVE THEIR OWN BREAK ROOMS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY STAFF EATING OUTDOORS COMING IN.

UM, WE CAN ALSO HAVE, WHICH IS GONNA BE VERY KEY, I BELIEVE IN THIS NEXT 20 YEARS, IS UP TO FOUR A RB PANEL ROOMS WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF OR THE PUBLIC COME IN, HAVE A MOMENT, A 15 MINUTE, UH, MEETING WITH MY, MY APPRAISAL STAFF, HOPEFULLY RESOLVE.

BUT IF NOT, WE, THEN YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY AT THAT TIME.

AGAIN, KEEPS THEM FROM HAVING TO COME BACK TWO WEEKS LATER OR AT ANOTHER TIME, WHICH CAN BE FRUSTRATING.

UH, SO YOU GET IT ALL DONE IN ONE DAY WOULD BE GREAT.

AND IT HELPS OUR TIMELINE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HIT THAT REQUIRED, UH, JULY 25TH CERTIFICATION DATE.

MAIN LEVEL WOULD BE THE PUBLIC LEVEL.

WE CAN RECAPTURE THAT PUBLIC RESOURCE ROOM THAT WE LOST, UM, AS WELL AS WE'LL HAVE SOME SELF-SERVICE KIOSK IN THE MAIN AREA TO THE RIGHT THERE TO HOPEFULLY, AGAIN, BRING THE PUBLIC TO SOME OF THESE, UM, OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO 'EM, UM, RATHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL WAITING IN LINE AND WHATNOT.

TOP LEVEL WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOR, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE APPRAISAL STAFF, AS WELL AS THAT, SOME ADMIN STAFF.

UM, NOT MUCH GOING.

IT PROVIDES US ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE, THE CURRENT, UH, 40, UM, STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE INCREASES THAT WE MAY HAVE OVER THIS NEXT 10, UH, 20 YEAR PERIOD.

UM, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, OBVIOUSLY MY VISION IS AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE END OF THIS 15, 20 YEAR PERIOD, AND WE'VE HAD SOME STAFF COME ON BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND, UM, IF WE NEED TO MOVE THE A OR B TO THAT GYMNASIUM, WE CAN CUT THAT GYMNASIUM UP.

PERFECT, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE OPERATIONS OVER THERE.

WE CAN BACKFILL THAT BOTTOM LEVEL WITH WHATEVER, UM, TAXPAYER NEEDS.

UM, WE HAVE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WE ARE EXPECTING OVER THIS PERIOD, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE 30 AND 50%.

THAT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND ON, UM, THE TIMELINE OF THE, THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE PROJECTING.

UM, I BROKE IT DOWN INTO FIVE YEAR PERIODS, AND I WAS THINKING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND THREE DURING EACH FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IF THAT DEMAND IS THERE FOR IT.

UH, PROJECTIONS FOR ANNUAL PROTESTS ARE GONNA BE UP TO ABOUT 40,000 BY THE END OF 2045.

UH, THAT'S BASED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, PROJECTIONS.

A WEIGHTED AVERAGE HOLDING STILL TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS.

UM, EVERYBODY, NEW LAW, EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO AN INFORMAL CONFERENCE THAT CAME IN ABOUT TWO, TWO SESSIONS AGO.

SO, UM, THAT REQUIRES US TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THAT 15, 20 MINUTE MEETING WITH STAFF BEFORE THEY THEN GO TO A 15, 20 MINUTE MEETING WITH THE A RB.

AGAIN, MORE TIME, UH, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN FACILITATE, UH, TO GET YOU ALL YOUR TIMELY RESOLUTION OR EXCUSE ME, UM, TAX LEVIES.

SO HERE WE GO.

THIS IS A PROBABLE COST FROM THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS THAT DID THE, UH, REVIEW FOR US.

THE SITE ACQUISITION WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT JUST, UH, UH, SOUTH OF ONE NINE, UH, PROBABLE COST OF RENOVATION IS 8.4 FOR ITS GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT 10.3.

THIS ESSENTIALLY INCREASES EVERYBODY'S OPERATING COSTS OR FUNDING OF OUR OPERATING COSTS BY ABOUT 16.3% BASED OFF OF EACH, UM, RESPECTIVE OF THEIR LEVIES.

UH, IT WAS BASED OFF A 20 YEAR TERM.

UM, AGAIN, WE CAN'T, UH, ISSUE BONDS OR LEVY ATTACKS WE'RE FUNDED.

OUR, OUR ENTIRE BUDGET IS FUNDED BY THE ENTITIES THAT WE SERVE BASED OFF OF THE ALLOCATION.

UM, FIRST PAYMENT WOULDN'T BE DUE, UH, UNTIL OUR FUNDING REQUIREMENT WOULDN'T BE DUE UNTIL THE TAX YEAR 2027.

SO 2026 ISN'T A CONSIDERATION.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO, UM, BEGIN IT AT THAT TIME IF IT'S APPROVED.

THE CITY SHIRT, I'VE KIND OF BROKEN IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR Y'ALL.

UM, BASED OFF OF PROJECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS

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CURRENTLY HAVE A 5.5% ALLOCATION ANNUALLY FOR OUR BUDGET OPERATIONS.

SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF ABOUT $49,000, UH, OVER THIS 20 YEAR PERIOD.

SOME COST MITIGATION PROJECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS WHAT MADE THIS OPTION AGAIN, VIABLE, IS THE FACT WE CAN SELL OUR CURRENT ASSET AND THEN PUT ALL THOSE PROCEEDS, UH, TOWARDS PAYING DOWN, UH, THE NOTE.

UM, ANY ANNUAL UNSPENT BUDGET FUNDS THE STATE REQUIRES US SEND IT BACK TO OUR TAXING UNITS.

WE DON'T GET TO KEEP IT.

WE COULD THOUGH, PUT IT TOWARDS DEDICATED TOWARDS, AGAIN, PAYING DOWN.

UH, THE PRINCIPLE ON THIS NOTE, UH, CONSERVATIVELY SPEAKING, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, CAN LOOK AT THREE TO FOUR YEARS OFF THE BACK END OF THIS.

THIS NOTE.

UM, HERE ARE THE ALTERNATE OPTIONS.

UM, WHAT ISN'T INCLUDED ON THIS OBVIOUSLY IS, UH, SOME ACQUISITION OF LAND.

ESSENTIALLY, IT CAME TO ABOUT FIVE SIX TOTAL VALUE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE WASN'T, UH, A THOROUGH REVIEW LIKE WE DID AFTER WE DECIDED ON WHICH ONE TO GO WITH.

UM, BUT THE, THE, THE OPTION THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY NET WISE, WAS A BETTER OPTION FOR US BECAUSE IT ALSO MET A LOT OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR SCALABLE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT CAN MEET THE DEMANDS, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OR THE CHALLENGES THAT MAY POP UP THAT THIS SITE WOULDN'T DO OR THIS OPTION WOULDN'T DO.

UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PREDICTABLE COST, OBVIOUSLY BY DOING, UH, THE OPTION THAT WE'VE, WE PRESENTED TODAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ABOUT INFLATION.

WE COULD DO THIS ONE.

UH, I'VE LOOKED AT IT, UM, PROJECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE BACK HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OPERATIONAL STRAIN ASPECT, HITTING US SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT 15 YEAR MARK THAT WHOEVER'S IN MY POSITION IS GONNA HAVE TO START LOOKING AT HOW DO WE REVENUE THAT, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD MORE, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY MORE LAND BEHIND IT, COME BACK WHEN INFLATIONARY HAS TAKEN PLACE.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE CURRENT OPTION, UM, THAT WE'RE PRESENTING, IT'D BE AN ADDITIONAL 3.7 MILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS.

IF WE GO WITH, UM, ONE OF THE, THE ALTERNATE OPTIONS, AGAIN, BIG REASON WHY MY BOARD WENT AHEAD AND, AND DECIDED TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION, THAT THIS WAS THE OPTION THAT WE AT LEAST WANTED TO BRING TO YOU OFF OF CONSIDERATION.

AND IDEALLY, UH, WE, WE GET APPROVAL.

UH, FINAL THOUGHTS, OBVIOUSLY, UH, FOUR AREAS OF PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES.

I, I THINK OUR CULTURE OBVIOUSLY IS ONE HUGE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GREAT CULTURE.

MISS, MS. OSBORNE, MY PREDECESSOR REALLY STARTED AS A TAXPAYER ORIENTED OFFICE.

UH, I'VE MAINTAINED THAT.

I'VE BENEFITED FROM THAT, UM, WITH THE STAFF THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE, UH, DONE GREAT ON OUR ANNUAL, UM, OVERSIGHT FROM THE STATE, WHETHER IT BE THE PROPERTY VALUE STUDY OR, UH, METHODS AND PROCEDURES ON HOW WE COME UP WITH THESE VALUES.

UM, EXECUTIVE TEAM, THE LEADERSHIP ASPECT OF A, A GOOD AGENCY.

UH, WE'VE GOT 22 YEARS, UH, OVERALL AVERAGE BETWEEN THE THREE OF US.

SO WE HAVE THE CONFIDENCE OF OUR STAFF.

WE HAVE THE CONTINUITY BETWEEN, UH, UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT SUPPORTIVE BOARD.

LAST YEAR THEY PROVIDED, UM, UM, AT MY REQUEST THEY SAID, YES, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S GET A, A COMPENSATION STUDY DONE FOR YOUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

UH, IT CAME BACK, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SLIGHTLY LOW.

SO THEY IMPLEMENTED, UM, AT MY, UH, REQUEST, YOU KNOW, I, I GAVE THEM A, UM, STEPPING GRADE COMPENSATION S SYSTEM, ALL NEW JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, PRESENTED TO THEM IN OC UH, DECEMBER THAT THEY WENT AHEAD AND PASSED.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO IT ALL IN ONE YEAR.

SO WE, WE, WE BROKE IT UP INTO TWO YEARS.

AND THEN FINALLY, MY, MY THOUGHT IS IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GET THE FACILITY, UH, THIS PARTICULAR OPTION, UH, SATISFIES, UH, AGAIN, I THINK IN PERPETUITY FOR THE, FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AS LONG AS YOU GUYS REQUIRE AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE NO NEED TO RELOCATE.

UM, ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NEED TO MEET DEMAND WISE CAN BE DONE AT THE CURRENT, THAT CURRENT SITE, UM, AT THAT TIME.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD Y'ALL.

UM, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, COUNSEL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

DO NO DISCUSSION THERE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R 0 7 0 OH.

I MEANT TO HIT THE WRONG MAYOR.

TIM HAYWARD, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.

UM, WHEN YOU DID YOUR BUDGET AND THE BUDGET THAT'S THERE, IS THAT IN INCLUDING ANY COST OVERRUN? UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECT? YES, THERE'S, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS.

UH, AN INDIVIDUAL I SPOKE WITH LAST WEEK FROM SINE WAS HAVING IS THEY ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC AGENCIES, THEY SAY IT'S GONNA BE ONE NUMBER AND THEN WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BLOATED HEARING THAT I KIND OF WENT THROUGH WITH THEM AND KIND SHOWED 'EM THAT THE ACTUAL RENOVATION COST, YOU KNOW, IS 4.7, BUT ALL THE CONTINGENCIES ON TOP OF THAT FOR STUFF THAT MAY COME UP THAT IS UNFORESEEN IS INCLUDED.

SO I REALLY BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE TOP END AND I, I I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GOING BE BELOW THAT, BUT THAT WAS A CONCERN.

YES, MA'AM.

VALUE DO WE ADD IN THAT AREA TO KEEP IT GOING WHERE THERE'S NO BLIGHT AND, AND THE MISUSE OF A BUILDING SO LITTLE HESITANT ON THE COST.

AND THEN THE OTHER, IT'S NOT MORE OF A QUESTION BUT A STATEMENT.

ORIGINALLY WHEN I SAW THIS, I WAS THINKING A REALLY OLD BUILDING, BUT THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT I'M IN A PROCESS WITH ANOTHER ENTITY AND LOOKING FOR A BUILDING AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN A HISTORICAL PLACE BECAUSE WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT

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UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT, AS THE BOARD, I'M SURE DID MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE WE ARE USING THOSE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON.

YEAH, AND THAT WAS SPEAKING TO THAT BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD MENTIONED THAT AS WELL IS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DEVELOPER CURRENTLY WAS LOOKING TO CHANGE.

HE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE ZONING FROM PUBLIC TO COMMERCIAL, SO HE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT HOWEVER, HE WANTS A LOT OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A NINE TO FIVE TYPE OPERATION WHEN THE SCHOOL, SO IT'S GONNA GET TO GO BACK TO THAT.

THIS WAS ONE OF THAT INTANGIBLE BENEFITS OF, OF CHOOSING THIS OPTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GUDO.

OH, SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE 48, UH, EMPLOYEES, IS THAT CORRECT? 40 40, 41 SIR.

41.

YES SIR.

AND THEN YOU SAID, UH, YOU WANTED TO INCREASE IT, UH, WHEN THE TIME WOULD COME.

MY, MY PROJECTIONS WITH, WITH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE TOTAL, I, THERE'S A, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD, IAAO IS THE INTERNATIONAL ASSESSING OFFICER.

THEY HAVE ACTUAL, LIKE TEMPLATES ON EXACTLY HOW MANY ACCOUNTS YOU WANT PER PERSON.

SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT OVER STRAINING, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I PROJECTED IT ON, WAS AS WE CAN INCREASE OUR, UH, PROPERTY COUNT, MAINTAINING THAT, THAT POTENTIAL LEVEL OR THAT THAT BENCHMARK THAT THEY HAVE OF UM, HOW MANY ACCOUNTS PER APPRAISER, HOW MANY ACCOUNTS PER ADMIN, STAFF MEMBER.

SO WITHIN THRESHOLD? YES SIR.

YOU HAVE EVERYTHING MONITORING? ABSOLUTELY.

GOTCHA.

NO FURTHER QUESTION.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 25 R 0 7 0.

SECOND HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS COUNCIL.

WE HAVE SIX AYES.

ONE OBJECTION.

TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON

[7. Ordinance 25-S-026 - Conduct a public hearing and consider amendments to Part III of the Schertz Code of Ordinance, Unified Development Code (UDC), to Article 8, Section 21.8.9 - Outdoor Display and Storage. (B.James/L.Wood/D.Marquez)]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 2 6.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO PART THREE OF THE SHIRTS.

CODE OF ORDINANCE, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC TO ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 21.8 0.9, OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE.

MS. MARCUS FLOOR IS YOURS.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MR. JAMES ORDINANCE 25 S 26 A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO UDC, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 2189, OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE.

DAISY MARQUEZ PLANNER.

SO WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? STAFF IS PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE, A OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE TO CREATE NEW CATEGORIES OF OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE.

AMEND THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE, CLARIFY THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND EXPAND EXCEPTIONS.

SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TODAY? CURRENTLY IT HAS TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND TEMPORARY OUTDOOR STORAGE.

IN GENERAL OUTDOOR STORAGE.

IF YOU WERE A BUSINESS OWNER COMING IN, THIS CAN LOOK VERY CONFUSING AND YOU WOULD SAY TO YOURSELF, HOW DO I DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN BOTH? AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ZONINGS THAT THIS IS ALLOWED IN IS PRETTY LIMITED.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY IS TO CATEGORIZE TWO INTO TWO CATEGORIES ONLY, OUTDOOR DISPLAY OR OUTDOOR STORAGE.

IT'S EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ALSO INCLUDED MSMU ZONING WITHIN THIS, UM, PERMITTED ZONING LIST, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LIMIT THEM TO WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO DO.

AND THEN WE ARE STILL NOT ALLOWING OUTDOOR STORAGE IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT WE ARE ALLOWING IT WITH AN APPROVED SUB IN PUBLIC USE DISTRICT JUST BECAUSE PUBLIC USE DOES ALLOW, UM, OTHER TYPES OF ZONING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO MUNICIPAL USES AS WELL.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY IN THAT WE ARE ALSO MOVING ALL OF THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE TO THE TOP OF THE ORDINANCE, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE EXPECTATION ARE, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE ARE FOR ALL DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE ITEMS. SO AGAIN, JUST MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PAVED, UM, AND PAINTED TO DISTINGUISH THEM FROM PARKING AREAS, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S TWO VERY SEPARATE AREAS AND IT'S VERY CLEARLY KNOWN.

BUT ALSO, UM, IF ANY CHANGES ARE MADE, LIKE THE OUTDOOR STORAGE AREAS ARE EXPANDED, IT HAS TO COME IN FOR AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, JUST SO WE CAN CONTROL THAT.

AND WE CAN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GROWING IN A PROPER MANNER.

ALSO MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IT CANNOT BE LOCATED WITHIN REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.

I KNOW THIS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN NON-RESIDENTIAL USES TO RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND MAKE SURE THAT BUFFERING THAT IS

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REQUIRED IS PROTECTED.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO OUTDOOR DISPLAY, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION JUST TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS ITEMS ACTIVELY FOR SELLER LEASE THAT CAN BE PERUSED BY THE PUBLIC.

JUST CLARIFYING THAT INTENT THAT STAFF MEANS WHEN WE MEAN OUTDOOR DISPLAY, UM, MAKING SURE IT DOESN'T EXCEED 15 FEET IN HEIGHT, THAT IF THEY ARE STACKED IT, IT DOES NOT EXCEED FIVE FEET IN HIGH.

AND THE DISPLAY AREA DOES NOT EXCEED 25% OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND THEN FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE, EXPANDING ON THAT DEFINITION, AGAIN, IT CONTAINS THE SAME ITEMS THAT IT HAD BEFORE.

SO THINK OF SHIPPING CONTAINERS, TEMPORARY PORTABLE STORAGE FACILITIES, UM, BUT THEN IT ALSO EXPANDED ON IT TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE WHOLESALE BUSINESS, LANDSCAPE MATERIALS, UM, PACKAGED DIRT.

AND THEN IT HAS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS BEFORE.

SO THAT MAXIMUM 20 FEET IN HEIGHT.

BUT AFTER PNZ, WE DID ADD, UM, A CLARIFICATION THAT, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT WAS, UM, AN EXEMPTION FROM THE 20 FEET IN HEIGHT JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL, UH, OR OF THE EQUIPMENT.

SO THINK OF A LADDER OR A CRANE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY, OKAY, A CRANE IS A HUNDRED FEET IN HEIGHT.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT NATURALLY.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, THE SAME REQUIREMENTS.

IT HAS TO BE ENCLOSED AND AT THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO NO CHANGES IN THAT.

AND THEN WE ARE EXPANDING IN THE EXCEPTIONS WITH THE CHANGING BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT.

WE REALLY DON'T WANNA LIMIT PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO PROPOSE GARDEN CENTERS, LUMBER YARDS IN ALL STORE SELL AREAS.

AS THE CITY IS GROWING, WE'RE HAVING NEW BUSINESSES BEING PROPOSED TO US THAT ARE OLD UDC INHERENTLY PROHIBITED.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADAPTING WITH THE TIMES AND INCLUDING THOSE BUSINESSES.

AND THEN SIDEWALK SALES, UM, WERE ALSO ADDED TO THE EXEMPTION TO NOT BE CONSIDERED OUTDOOR DISPLAY AFTER STORAGE.

AND THAT WAS ALSO A REASON FOR ADDING MSMU TO THAT.

SO IF WE GET MORE BOUTIQUES AND MORE BUSINESSES DOWN MAIN STREET WITH ALL THE NEW CHANGES, THEN MAYBE WE CAN ACTIVATE THAT.

WE CAN HAVE SOME SIDEWALK SALES.

SO AGAIN, WHEN STAFF LOOKS AT UDC AMENDMENTS, WE LOOK TOWARDS SECTION 21 4 7 D FOR THE CRITERIA OF APPROVAL.

SO WHEN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROMOTES A HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE, THE CITY, SO SECTION 2189 WAS LAST UPDATED DURING THE PANDEMIC TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC SECTION FOR MATERIAL SHORTAGES DURING THE PANDEMIC.

BUT BEFORE THAT, IT HAD NOT BEEN REVISED SINCE ITS IMPLEMENTATION IN 2010.

SO IT HAS GOTTEN OUTDATED AND WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO SOME PROBLEMS WITH BUSINESSES COMING IN AND HAVING MEETINGS WITH US TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE UDC.

SO STAFF IS TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE WITH ALL THE NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING IN.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE CHANGING RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENTS.

AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES HAVE COME IN AND SHOWN A DESIRE FOR OUTDOOR DISPLAY.

BUT DUE TO THE NATURE OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAVE HAD TO TELL THEM THAT IT'S INHERENTLY PROHIBITED JUST BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.

AND ALSO MSMU WAS NOT IN PLACE DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UDC SECTION.

SO, AND NOW IT'S ABLE TO BE ADDED IN AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

THREE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CORRECTS AND ERROR MEETS THE CHALLENGE OF CHANGING CONDITIONS OR IS IN RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAW.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE CLARIFYING OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE DEFINITIONS TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR PEOPLE.

THIS HAS BEEN A CONFUSION WHEN PEOPLE HAVE COME IN ASKING, WELL, I THINK I'M DISPLAY WHILE I'M STORAGE AND HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THE ACTUAL INTENT.

WELL, NOW IT'S LAID OUT IN THE UAAC AND ALSO THE EXPANSION OF EXCEPTIONS.

FOUR, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.

SO STAFF IS INSURED.

THE UDC AMENDMENT MEETS THE UC REQUIREMENTS.

AND AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY REQUESTED AN EXEMPTION TO THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FROM HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T WANNA INHERENTLY PROHIBIT SOMETHING DUE TO THE NATURE OF EQUIPMENT.

SO THAT WAS ADDED AS SHOWN.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25 S 26, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ITEM AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH AMENDMENTS AS SHOWN TO YOU TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MS. MARCUS.

THIS, UH, ITEM IS ON THE AGENDAS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, THE TIME IS 7 0 4.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, UH, COUNCIL REGARDING THIS SUBJECT, YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO THE MIC IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY, ANYBODY WANNA ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEARING? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK? YES.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 7 0 4.

UH, COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

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SO M MSS MU MAIN STREET MIXED USE? YES, SIR.

CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL.

UM, EXAMPLES OF THAT, WHAT ARE WE, DID I MISS, CAN YOU GIMME AN EXAMPLE? HOW DOES THAT DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATE OR DIFFERENT VARY FROM MERCANTIL ONE OR MERCANTIL TWO OR M1 OR M TWO OCCUPANCY CLASSIFICATION? BRIAN, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? SO I CAN, I CAN PROBABLY OFFER THAT HAVING BEEN PART OF THE HISTORY AND SAM CAN COME UP IF NEED BE.

BUT, UH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FOUND ON MAIN STREET WORKING WITH THE MAIN STREET COMMITTEE IS THAT A LOT OF THOSE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT A LONG TIME AGO.

THEY WERE MAYBE BUILT AS RESIDENCES.

THEY WANT TO CONVERT TO BUSINESSES.

MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS REALLY HAVE IN MIND GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A VACANT PIECE OF LAND.

SOMEBODY COMES IN AND BUILDS A, A, A BUILDING ON IT FOR A COMMERCIAL USE.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE CREATED THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE TO ALLOW THAT REDEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN MORE EASILY AND HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THE OLDER PART OF TOWN.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE.

IT, IT ALLOWS A RANGE OF, UH, PERSONAL SERVICE, RETAIL, UH, RESTAURANT TYPE USES, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE MODIFIED TO BLEND BETTER WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE CREATED OUR OWN SEPARATE DISTRICT AND THUS, AS DAISY SAID, WE NEEDED TO ADD, UH, HOW WE HANDLE OUTDOOR DISPLAY TO THAT DISTRICT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

IT'S MODIFIED, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OLDER, OLDER BUILDINGS THAT WERE ALREADY IN PLACE.

WHAT ABOUT FOR THE, UM, DEFINITION, UH, FOR THE, UM, THE BIG, THE HEIGHT FOR THE EQUIPMENT, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, THAT'S JUST, HOW'S THAT DEFINED? HEAVY EQUIPMENT? I, I KNOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING ASK FOR AN EXEMPTION, BUT WHAT ARE WE JUST SAYING? IT'S, AS LONG AS IT'S MECHANICAL AND IT'S USED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

I MEAN THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? IT'S CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, IT'S EQUIPMENT WITH A CRANE.

UH, IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT.

NOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY ON WHEELS.

ONE EXAMPLE WE TOSSED AROUND WAS, UH, THE LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS EQUIPMENT AT THE GE FACILITY THAT'S NOW AMAZON.

IT'S BIG EQUIPMENT TO LIQUEFY NATURAL GAS.

IT STANDS, I DON'T KNOW, 25, 30 FEET TALL, WHATEVER IT WAS.

IT, IT INHERENTLY HAD HEIGHT TO IT.

UM, AND SO AGAIN, I THINK FROM OUR OTHER DEFINITIONS OF USES AND SALES HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND SERVICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, I DOUBT WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT COMPLIES WITH THAT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, AS DAISY SAID, IT'S A, IT'S A CRANE.

IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IS TOO TALL.

THANK YOU DAISY.

HEY, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

YEAH, JUST, UH, TO CLARIFY FOR ME, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UH, GARDEN CENTERS LUMBER YARDS, UH, OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND STORAGE, IT SAYS IT MUST BE ENCLOSED UTILIZING A METAL OR STEEL FENCE, UH, MATERIAL SUCH AS WROUGHT IRON WITH MASONRY COLLINS CHAIN LINK FENCE IS NOT PERMITTED.

I MEAN, WHEN I LOOK AT LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT AND WHATNOT, THEIR WHOLE SIDE IS CHAIN LINK FENCE.

SO WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE ALL OF THAT AREA TO BE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE MATERIAL.

YES, SIR.

CORRECT.

IT'S VERY COSTLY, AND I KNOW YOU, NOBODY CARES ABOUT LOWE'S, BUT WHAT IF A SMALLER COMPANY CAME IN, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE 'EM ALL, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A, IT'S AN EXCESSIVE THING.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A NICER LOOK.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A MIX BETWEEN KEEPING IT NICE AND, AND PRACTICALITY AS WELL.

I THINK, I THINK COUNCILMAN, THAT'S A, IT'S A STAFF WOULD SAY THAT'S A PURE POLICY STANDPOINT, RIGHT? AND I, I THINK YOU, YOU KIND OF HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN COST AND IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THE AESTHETIC OF IT.

UM, STAFF'S INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS TO GO WITH THE WROUGHT IRON.

TUBULAR STEEL LOOK.

UH, THAT TENDS TO BE A BIT MORE COMMON NAIL.

UH, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, FOR SOME FOLKS IT WOULD MEAN A HIGHER COST ASSOCIATED.

AND I CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT FOR A SIX OR EIGHT FOOT, UH, FENCE AROUND A EVEN A, EVEN A RELATIVELY LARGE AREA.

BUT FOR THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, LOWE'S, HOME DEPOT, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT GARDEN CENTER AND THAT'S 25, 30 FEET TALL OF OF CHAIN CHAIN LINK, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THEM GO BACK TO A WROUGHT IRON FENCE.

SO I THINK, I THINK THE ASSUMPTION REALLY WAS TO MAKE THEM, AND, AND LET ME JUST BE CLEAR, WHEN WE SAY WROUGHT IRON, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S AN EXAMPLE, BUT STILL, UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXPECTATION AGAIN, WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT IS BEING DONE MORE COMMONLY NOW WITH PARTICULARLY THE BIG BOX LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT, YOU'LL SEE THE STONER MASONRY COLUMNS AND YOU'LL SEE THE

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TUBULAR STEEL.

THAT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON THING FOR, FOR THEM TO DO.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN, AN EXTERIOR DECORATIVE COMPONENT TO THEIR SECURITY OF THE CHAIN LINK THING.

SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, I, I'M JUST GONNA USE THOSE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HERE, IT'S BIG, IT'S, IT IS OBVIOUS.

THEY WOULD BUILD THAT, THAT ENCLOSURE, UH, AND, AND USE CHAIN LINK FOR THE SECURITY AND, AND WHATNOT.

AND THEN THEY CAN PUT A, UH, AN EXTERIOR COSMETIC COMPONENT TO IT.

THEY, THEY COULD.

NOW, I WILL SAY THIS, AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT AN EXPERT AND SOMEONE CAN CORRECT ME, UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WE ALL KNOW FROM REMEMBERING WHEN WE WERE KIDS, IS YOU GOT HANDHOLDS, YOU GOT FOOTHOLDS WITH CHAIN LINK, RIGHT? AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING BARBED WIRE OR SOMETHING ON TOP OF THAT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO YOU'VE GOT THE WROUGHT IRON, THE TUBULAR STEEL, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE A BAR RUNNING HORIZONTALLY TOWARD THE BOTTOM AND THEN UP AT THE TOP, BUT IT'S FREE IN BETWEEN.

SO YOU'RE HAVING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, AS I REMEMBER, LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CHALLENGE TO GET OVER THE WROUGHT IRON THAN IT WAS THE CHAIN LINK THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE SCALABLE.

UH, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, BIG BOX FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE APPLICATIONS IN, UH, WITH THE CITY HAVE BALKED AT GOING FORWARD.

I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, IN FACT WE HAVE AN ITEM ON FOR PNZ TOMORROW NIGHT WITH REGARD TO, UH, SIGNAGE, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE BATTED AN EYE AT THE NEW REQUIREMENT.

IN FACT, PART OF HOW WE CAME ABOUT THIS IS TALKING TO THOSE FOLKS.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, PURE POLICY AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE AND RESPECT COUNSEL'S, COUNSEL'S GUIDANCE ON THIS ONE.

LIKE I SAID, I I, IF IT CAN BE DONE AND IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE, THAT'S FINE.

I HAVE NOTHING WRONG AGAINST, YOU KNOW, NICE AESTHETICS.

I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF A BALANCE IN THERE SO THAT IT, IT STILL HITS THE, THE COST EFFECTIVENESS AS WELL.

I AGREE.

BEFORE I RECOGNIZE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR CLARITY, WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY THAT LOWE'S IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE IF THIS IS PASSED? SO LOWE'S IS GRANDFATHERED TO BE CLEAR, LOWE'S, WELL, NO, HERE, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED, BUT IF THERE, IF THERE WAS A, WOULD THEY BE IN COMPLIANCE BASED ON THIS? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY RUN THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON LOWE'S COUNSEL.

WE COULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO TABLE IT, WE COULD COME BACK WITH THAT WITH YOU.

UM, AGAIN, WE, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT WHAT LOWE'S IS DOING, KIND OF LOOKED AT WHAT OUR LOWE'S HAS A LITTLE BIT UHHUH, BUT WE DIDN'T RUN SPECIFICALLY THE CODE TO SAY WOULD THEY COMPLY WITH WHAT WE PROPOSED IF THEY BUILT THAT SAME STORE TODAY, AS OPPOSED TO A STORE THAT THEY'RE TYPICALLY BUILDING THESE DAYS.

'CAUSE UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN BROUGHT AN INTERESTING POINT THERE.

15, THEY, THEY DO HAVE A 15 OR 20 FOOT HIGH FENCE.

UH, SO, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT MURDOCH'S ACROSS THE STREET.

I CAN SEE THAT ABSOLUTELY FITTING THE NEW REQUIREMENTS.

'CAUSE IT'S A MAYBE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND, YOU KNOW, 80 BY 80 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A HUNDRED FEET BY A HUNDRED FEET.

UH, IT'S A GOOD SIZE STORAGE AREA, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT HUGE AND NOT GOOD.

CERTAINLY SEE, WANT THAT TYPE OF A STORAGE AREA THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE, ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD TO LOOK GOOD.

THE MURDOCHS, UH, A GARDEN CENTER LOVE MAR YARD, OUTDOOR OUTDOOR SALES AREA, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED OUTDOOR DISPLAY.

AND DAISY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE GARDEN CENTER AND, AND JUST MAYBE CLARIFY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GARDEN CENTER, WHICH WE CREATED AS A CARVE OUT VERSUS THE OUTDOOR DISPLAY.

SO GARDEN CENTER WILL HAVE DIFFERENT SPECS.

SO IT'S THE GARDEN CENTER THAT'S GOT THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE WROUGHT IRON AROUND IT.

WELL, IT ALSO, IT ALSO SAYS LUMBER YARDS, OUTDOOR SALES AREAS.

Y YES.

NO, UN UNDERSTOOD.

AND SO LET ME, LET ME BE CLEAR.

I, I GUESS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS.

SO AS DAISY KIND OF MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT TWO CATEGORIES IN OUR CODE AND TWO CATEGORIES WE'RE MAKING CLEAR, WHICH IS THE OUTDOOR STORAGE AND THE OUTDOOR DISPLAY.

AND, AND WE'VE GOT ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CRITERIA OF THOSE.

WE, ONE OF THE THINGS AS, AS STAFF WORK TO CRAFT THIS, THAT CREATED A PROBLEM AS WE CAME UP WITH OUR, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH GARDEN CENTERS? WASN'T REALLY KIND OF WHAT WE HAD IN MIND.

BUT THEN AS WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT, AND I'M LOOKING FOR NODS FROM SAM AND EMILY TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK, THANK YOU.

AND DAISY , UH, IS HOW DOES THE GARDEN CENTER FIT TO THAT? SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE CAME BACK AND ADDED AND WE BASICALLY LOOKED AT WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING WITH THOSE GARDEN CENTERS, LUMBER YARDS, OUTDOOR, UH, JUST SALES AREAS.

AND FRANKLY, TYPICALLY WE LOOKED AT THE BIG BOX, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND SO THAT WAS CRAFTED SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.

AND SO THE GARDEN CENTER EXCEPTION HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAN TYPICAL OUTDOOR DISPLAY, UH, WOULD GOING FORWARD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, TO, TO CONTRAST WITH

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OUTDOOR STORAGE HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO AND ACCESSIBLE TO THROUGH THE PRIMARY BUILDING, RIGHT? SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT GOING INTO LOWE'S, YOU GO DOWN TO THE SIDE, YOU GO THROUGH THE DOORWAY, YOU'RE IN THE GARDEN CENTER, YOU GO DOWN THE OTHER END, YOU'RE OUT IN THE LUMBER AREA, RIGHT? THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN MURDOCH'S THAT'S OUT FRONT IN THE PARKING SPOT.

SO IT WOULDN'T FIT.

BUT, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, STAFF, I DON'T KNOW.

DO WE, DO WE, WE'VE NAMED THE USER THAT'S ON THE CASE TOMORROW NIGHT? YES.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THEN, TO BE, TO BE BLUNT, WE HAVE HOME DEPOT WITH A PROPOSED SITE PLAN IN, THEY'RE GETTING A SIGNAGE VARIANCE AND THEY WOULD COMPLY WITH THIS AS WE'VE PROPOSED AND FRANKLY HAVEN'T BALKED AT IT.

IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY, THE HOME DEPOT YOU WENT TO 30 YEARS AGO LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN A HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S THEY'RE BUILDING TODAY.

AND FRANKLY, THE WR IRON ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AT THE ZONING, WE WANT IT TO LOOK NICE.

MM-HMM .

I THINK WE HAD MORE PUSHBACK ON SOME OF THE COLUMN SPACING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAN WE REALLY DID THE WROUGHT IRON.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CAN I GET SOME NODS OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSPEAKING? SO AGAIN, WE CERTAINLY, UH, UH, APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE ON THIS.

IT, THAT PART OF IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF ANY REAL PUSHBACK ON.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER GU GUERRERO.

UH, YOU, WHEN YOU WERE GIVING YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU WERE MENTIONING SOMETHING ABOUT WHEN YOU GOT TOGETHER OR MEETINGS WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES OR YES.

SO WHAT WERE SOME OF THE UM, ESSENTIALLY WE DO OFFER FREE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS SO PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND MEET WITH STAFF, UH, PLANNING, FIRE AND ENGINEERING BEFORE THEY PURCHASE A PROPERTY OR IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN COMING TO THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

AND WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THEM OUR SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.

SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND THEY WOULD SAY, THIS IS THE NATURE OF MY BUSINESS.

I DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

HOW DOES THIS FIT WITHIN YOUR CITY? OR WHAT WOULD BE MY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS TO FIT WITHIN YOUR CITY DESIGN GUIDELINES? AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, I WANNA HAVE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY AREA.

SO THINK AGAIN, HOME DEPOT, LOWE'S THAT WE HAVE NOW WHERE THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF STORAGE OUTSIDE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TELL THEM, UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH THE WAY OUR UDC IS NOW.

SO INHERENTLY WE WERE PROHIBITING THEM BY ACCIDENT JUST BECAUSE OUR UDC DIDN'T SPELL IT OUT AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO REALLY INTERPRET IT WITHIN OUR CODE.

SO WITH THIS CODE AMENDMENT, THEY'RE ABLE TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF SHEES AND MORE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THESE TYPE OF USES CAN COME IN NOW AND THERE'S GUIDELINES FOR THEM.

HOW MANY BUSINESSES DO YOU THINK WERE BRINGING THIS UP? UM, JUST FROM MY TIME HERE, AND I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, I'VE HAD ABOUT THREE MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO TELL PEOPLE THAT IT'S NOT IN OUR CODE.

COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS? THE NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 2 6.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS AND SECOND BY MAYOR PROAM HAYWARD.

COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE HAVE SEVEN YAYS, NO OBJECTIONS.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[8. Ordinance 25-S-027 - Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone approximately 19 acres of land from Single-Family Residential / Agricultural District (R-A) to Middle Density Residential District (R-5) known as Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 68302, and 68303, also known as 19018 Old Wiederstein Road, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas. (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]

NUMBER EIGHT.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 2 7.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO ZO APPROXIMATELY 19 ACRES OF LAND FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SLASH AGRICULTURE DISTRICT R DASH A TWO MIDDLE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R FIVE KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 8 3 0 2 AND 6 8 3 0 3.

ALSO KNOWN AS 19 0 1 8 OLD WE STEIN ROAD CITY ASSURES GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS.

MR. HAAS FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL.

MR. JAMES, THIS IS ORDINANCE 25 S 0 27 SAMUEL HAAS, SENIOR PLANNER.

SO JUST TO GET OUR BEARINGS HERE, UH, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 19 ACRES.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, OLD STEIN JUST RIGHT HERE TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN.

THIS IS, UH, BELMONT PARK OVER HERE, THIS SUBDIVISION, AND THIS IS THE BACKSIDE OF FREEWAY MANNER.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A REZONE TO MIDDLE DENSITY R FIVE.

UM, IN THE LETTER OF INTENT, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THAT IT WOULD BE A SENIOR STYLE HOUSING, ALTHOUGH I SHOULD MENTION THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN HOLD 'EM TO THAT.

SO, R FIVE DOES ACCOMMODATE UP TO, UH, 12 UNITS PER

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ACRE.

UM, THE ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR EITHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.

AND THIS PARTICULAR SITE WITH THE R FIVE ZONING DESIGNATION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO ALL MULTI-FAMILY SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.

IN ARTICLE NINE ON MAY 23RD, 2025, A TOTAL OF 19 PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

WE'VE RECEIVED FOUR IN OPPOSITION AND FOUR IN FAVOR.

ONE SIGN WAS ALSO ADDITIONALLY POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, AND HERE IS A ZONING EXHIBIT PROVIDED BY OUR GRS DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HERE GOING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RA TO A MIDDLE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R FIVE.

JUST A REFRESHER ON SOME OF THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS OF R FIVE.

UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE AREA REQUIREMENT IS A MINIMUM FOR LOT SIZES TO BE, UM, A QUARTER ACRE.

THAT'S THAT TEN EIGHT NINETY NUMBER, NO WIDTH AND DEPTH REQUIREMENTS SIMILAR TO RA.

UM, AND THEN FRONT SIDE AND REAR IS 25, 10 10 FOR THE SETBACKS.

AND THEN IT HAS A MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF 80%.

SO WHEN EVALUATING ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS, WE, UH, LOOK AT UDC SECTION 2154 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

NUMBER ONE, WHERE THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS MIXED USE, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UH, AND ALSO ENTERTAINMENT.

THERE'S SPECIFIC CALLOUTS IN THE COMP PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL IN THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE DESIGNATION NUMBER TWO WHERE THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.

SO AS A PART OF PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE, UH, WE LIKE TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES.

SO IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, YOU'LL SEE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING BEING CONSTRUCTED, AND THEN ALSO RESTAURANTS IN RETAIL.

HERE IS JUST, UH, A LITTLE, UH, AERIAL OF THAT.

WE HAVE SHIRT STATION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THIS PHOTO IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE OUT OF DATE.

ALL THIS MULTIFAMILY RIGHT HERE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, WHERE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PAD SITES UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S RESTAURANT RETAIL IN THE AREA, THERE'S MULTIFAMILY IN THE AREA.

JUST ASSUME THERE'S SOME OTHER RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA AS WELL.

SO IT IS COMPATIBLE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED AND OUR, UH, CITY ENGINEER, UH, UH, PROPOSED THAT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WOULD BE CONSIDERED NEGLIGIBLE.

NUMBER THREE, UH, WHETHER THE USES PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

SO AGAIN, THE IMMEDIATE AREA BEING OPEN SPACE, RURAL RESIDENCES, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND SEARCH STATION, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT, A LOT OF RESIDENCES, UH, MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, PARKS, PLAYGROUND.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE AREA.

AND NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.

SO SHIRTS, FIRE, EMS POLICE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST, HAVE PROVIDED NO OBJECTIONS.

ALSO, S-C-U-C-I-S-D HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.

AND THIS SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UH, APPROVAL OF 25 S 0 2 7 DUE TO THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE ALIGNS WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS SURROUNDING LAND USES.

AND THE CITY OF SHIRTS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 4TH, 2025 AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE SIX TO ONE VOTE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU MR. HAAS.

ON THE OBJECTION ON THE, UH, SIX TO ONE VOTE.

ANY IDEA WHY? UH, YES.

LEMME SEE.

DO YOU REMEMBER THE BROWN WAS THE NAY VOTE ON THAT, BUT COMMISSIONER BROWN AND I DON'T RECALL.

I WASN'T THERE AT THAT ONE.

DON'T, YOU DIDN'T NOTE THE OBJECTION? OKAY, THANK YOU.

DON'T RECALL THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANY REASON WAS PROVIDED.

UH, BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE DEVELOPER HERE FOR A PRESENTATION.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE SAN ANTONIO.

I'M HERE WITH THE THOMAS GROUP DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW YOUR STAFF TO GO THROUGH SUCH A, A, A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

BUT I WILL LET THOMAS GROUP DEVELOPMENT SPEAK FIRST.

THEN WE HAVE THE ENGINEER THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE, PROBABLY THE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO OUTLINE, THIS IS NOT A TAX CREDIT PROJECT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS WILL BE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS FOR, FOR, FOR RENT, FOR SENIORS AGE, AGE RESTRICTED IS ALLOWED UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.

A MASSIVE NEED WITHIN THE CITY OF CHURCH.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS MATTHEW THOMAS OF THOMAS GROUP DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS BUTTON RIGHT HERE, UH, THIS IS MY DAD AND I WE'RE A FAMILY BUSINESS, UH, DAD STARTED THIS COMPANY 30 YEARS AGO.

UH, I GREW UP SWEEPING OUT HOUSES AND, UH, PICKING UP TRASH ON THE SITE, UH, GREW UP IN THE BUSINESS AND, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I WOULD WANT TO DO OR FRANKLY, THAT I'M GOOD AT.

SO HERE I AM.

UH, WE BUILT OVER 800 HOMES FOR RETIREES.

UH, IT'S ALL WE KNOW HOW TO DO.

IT'S ALL WE'RE GOOD AT AND IT'S WHAT WE WANNA KEEP DOING.

AND WE SEE THAT THERE IS

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4 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES.

NEW BRAUNFELS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AT BUILDING HOUSING FOR THE 55 PLUS HOME BUYER AND HOME RENTER.

BERNIE HAS DONE REALLY WELL TOO, BUT THERE'S JUST A LACK OUT HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.

THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT WE WOULD PLAN ON BUILDING HERE.

THE GOAL HERE IS TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS THE OCCUPANT TO AGE IN PLACE.

THERE IS, UH, NO STAIRS INVOLVED IN THIS.

THERE ARE LEVER DOOR HANDLES.

UH, MOST OF OUR UNITS ARE A DA COMPLIANT OR A DA LIGHT.

SO THERE'S AN ABILITY THERE TO WHERE IF SOMEBODY MOVES IN WHEN THEY'RE 55, THEY CAN STAY THERE FOR HOWEVER LONG THEY WOULD WISH TO.

THERE'S A FENCED IN AREA FOR PETS, WALKING TRAILS, GREAT MAGNETIZATION THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A HOME AND NOT JUST SOME SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TRACTED HOUSING.

AND, UH, THIS WAS A INTERESTING POINT THAT I HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE TRASH BEING DELIVERED.

ALL OF OUR STUFF IS, UH, EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE IS PROVIDED THAT INCLUDES VALET TRASH.

SO THERE IS NO LUGGING A 90 POUND TRASH CAN ANYWHERE.

IT ALLOWS YOU TO ESSENTIALLY JUST LIVE AND LOCK AND LEAVE IF YOU WISH, OR IF YOU WISH TO STAY THERE IN INDEFINITELY.

IT'S A, UH, DESIGN.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S, MOST OF THESE ARE OTHER RENDERINGS THING WE DO.

YOU WANNA COME UP AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MORE SLIDES OF JUST SOME, SOME OF THE RENDERINGS CENTER? YEAH.

THAT BE THE AMENITY CENTER.

AND THERE'S A OLDER PRODUCT THAT WE'VE DONE.

UH, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS AN ATTACHED PRODUCT AS WELL.

UH, WE PLAN ON DOING A SIMILAR GREEN SPACE IN THE CENTER OF THIS AS WELL.

THIS SAYS BARBECUE PITS, UH, A CLUBHOUSE, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REALLY BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

UH, YEAH.

CHRIS CRIM, HMT ENGINEERING, UH, TWO 60, UH, SOUTH CAEL, UH, NEW BRAUNFELS, TEXAS.

UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, REZONING IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, UH, WE HAD WORKED WITH STAFF, UH, TO DEVELOP THIS PRELIMINARY, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, COMPARING WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING WOULD ALLOW, UH, WHICH WOULD RESULT ROUGHLY IN THE 35 PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UH, BY THE THOMAS GROUP.

UH, WHICH RESULTS IN 36 PEAK HOUR TRIP.

SO, UH, ONE PEAK HOUR TRIP MORE.

KIND OF PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.

UH, THE A HUNDRED PEAK HOUR TRIP, UH, IS KIND OF THE, UH, WHAT'S DEFINED BY THE CITY AS BEING SIGNIFICANT OR NOT.

SO ANYTHING LOWER THAN THAT TYPICALLY DEEMED SO INSIGNIFICANT.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE REPORTS OR ANYTHING THAT'S PRETTY INDUSTRY STANDARD.

UM, BIG REASON FOR THAT, RIGHT? SENIOR, UH, LIVING IS PROBABLY THE BEST USE YOU COULD HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC.

UH, WHEN YOU ARE RETIRED, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN.

UH, YOU'RE NOT DROPPING YOUR KIDS OFF, UH, DURING SCHOOL.

UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK OR YOU'RE NOT COMING OFF WORK.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE 55 MIGHT STILL BE WORKING, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, THEY'RE JUST, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE ROADS, UH, AT THAT AGE.

AND SO THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC AND THAT CONCERN, UH, TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPE OF COMMUNITIES, UH, IT, IT'S THE BEST THAT YOU CAN THINK OF, UM, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IT PRODUCES TO YOUR, TO YOUR STREETS.

SO, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UH OH.

UH, AND YOU JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TWO THOROUGH AFFAIRS, UH, THAT THIS IS ADJACENT TO.

UM, AS PART OF THE PLATING, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE DEDICATING RIGHT AWAY THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE.

UM, UH, AND SO ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE HERE, THERE'S ALSO A THOROUGHFARE, UH, THAT, UH, THE CITY HAS, UH, THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED AND, UH, UH, BUILT AS PART OF THIS, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

SO, ONE OTHER POINT, UH, I HEARD IT, UH, EARLIER, THERE WAS CONCERN.

WE'RE GONNA TIE INTO 35.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

WE'RE PLANNING ON GOING INTO RIPS CHRYSLER HERE, UM, TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC.

PLUS THAT'S A, THE ROAD IS DESIGNED FOR THE VOLUME, EVEN IF THERE IS VERY LITTLE, UH, HERE THAT WE ARE ADDING.

AND SO, SO COUNCIL HOBBS, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE, THIS, THERE'S BEEN REZONINGS OF THIS PROPERTY TWO TIMES PREVIOUSLY.

WELL, THOSE REZONINGS WERE LARGER PIECES OF LARGER TRACKS OF LAND.

THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING AS FAR NORTHWEST AS THAT THOSE PROJECTS DID.

AND THOSE PROJECTS WERE ALSO NORMAL MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS FOR, FOR ALL AGES.

AND WERE MUCH LARGER WITH MUCH MORE UNITS.

THAT'S WHY TONIGHT YOU DON'T HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE HERE IN OPPOSITION 'CAUSE IT'S A MUCH SMALLER PROJECT.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SENIOR HOUSING IN THE CITY OF SHEES.

COUNSEL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT? AND BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE COUNSEL, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND LIKE I SAID, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDAS OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND THE START TIME IS SEVEN 30.

IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE

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MY NAME IS DANA ELDRIDGE, 2 6 2 8 GALLANT FOX DRIVE, SHEZ, TEXAS, TEXAS.

I LIVE IN BELMONT PARK SUBDIVISION.

UH, THOSE LOOK PRETTY NICE AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT I HAVE A REAL OBJECTION TO 'EM.

MY REAL PROBLEM IS WE DID A BANDAID FIX ON OLD STEIN ROAD NOT TOO LONG AGO AND YOU COULDN'T TELL IT DRIVING OVER IT.

NOW WITH THE STUFF GOING ON ON 35, THERE ARE MORNINGS WHERE I HAVE TRAFFIC GOING BEHIND MY HOUSE.

'CAUSE MY HOUSE BACKS UP ON OLD STEIN SOMETIMES FOR AN HOUR OR MORE.

SOLID TRAFFIC.

CAN'T GET OUTTA BELMONT PARK BECAUSE 30 FIVE'S ALL BLOCKED UP AND OLD STEIN'S ALL BLOCKED UP.

CONSTRUCTION ON 1103 DOESN'T HELP.

CONSTRUCTION ON GREEN VALLEY DOESN'T HELP, MAKES IT REAL TOUGH.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT NO TRAFFIC INVOLVED HERE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC.

IT MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC.

IT'S A PROBLEM WITH OLD STEIN ROAD THAT WE CAN'T GET FIXED.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE 20 YEARS OLD STEIN HAS BEEN, WELL, IT'S NOT BEEN EASY TO DRIVE ON.

IF YOU GO TRY TO DRIVE ON IT NOW YOU GOT SPOTS WHERE IT'S LIKE, OOH.

SO UNLESS WE GET OLD STEIN FIXED, WHETHER THERE'S TRAFFIC OR NOT WITH THIS LITTLE SUBDIVISION, WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.

I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY GOING IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE OUT THERE BEFORE YOU START ALLOWING MORE BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT, MORE HOUSES TO BE BUILT UNTIL YOU CAN GET OLD STEIN FIXED AND GET IT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? MY NAME IS MARK TU.

UH, I'D LIVE AT 18,940 OLD STEIN ROAD.

UH, I SPOKE EARLIER AND, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE AND, AND REITERATE MY POINT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PRACTICAL, NOT PRACTICAL AT THIS TIME.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S, THERE'S NO SUPPORTING, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT.

AND OLD STEIN ROAD MAY BE IN NEED OF A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT, BUT THERE ARE UTIL UTILITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF OLD STEIN ROAD FROM MULTIPLE COMPANIES.

AND UH, THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS MAYBE RESURFACE IT AND, AND SMOOTH IT OUT MAYBE.

BUT THAT'S IT.

AND, AND ADDING MORE.

AND IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE, OH, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER YOU DON'T, YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU DO IT.

SO THIS IS A MISTAKE THAT'S JUST BEST SOLVED BY NOT MAKING IT.

SO I'M ONCE AGAIN EXPRESSING MY OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING.

KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A, UH, VERY PRELIMINARILY, UH, WHAT IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE IS THE THOROUGHFARE, UH, THE SECONDARY ARTERIAL, UH, FROM THE CITY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, RIGHT? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 7 34.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AGAINST A LOT OF THE, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED FOR THAT AREA.

I'M NOT SO MUCH AGAINST THE PROJECT THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

I, I LIKE IT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD NEED FOR THE CITY.

UH, I DO HAVE THE CONCERNS ABOUT OLD STEIN ROAD.

IT'S VERY NARROW.

UM, I WISH THAT WE HAD A, UM, SOME KIND OF ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE, UH, INGRESS, EGRESS WOULD BE OFF OF OLD STEIN.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED OR PUT PUT TOGETHER THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, DO HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE? JUST

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UH, AND SO THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTION THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MARK ON THIS.

UH, OH.

SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A THOROUGHFARE THAT'S COMING IN, SO IT'D BE A CONNECTION HERE.

AND THEN PRESUMABLY A CONNECTION HERE THAT WE JUST NEED TO WORK WITH STAFF AS, AS FAR AS DRIVEWAY SPACING GOES.

SORRY, THAT WAS A LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT HOPEFULLY IT PAINTS A BIT OF A PICTURE.

AND, AND AGAIN, WHETHER THAT'S A FIRE ACCESS ONLY, UH, OR ACTUAL INGRESS EGRESS, UH, WE WOULD WORK OUT WITH STAFF, I GUESS.

UH, I MEAN, ARE WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WOULD THERE BE INCLUSION OF OF TURN LANES OR SOME, SOMETHING THAT WOULD PREVENT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BEING BACKED UP WAITING FOR A CAR TO TURN IN OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I JUST, THAT THAT ROAD IS JUST NOT IN GOOD SHAPE FOR A LOT ANY, ALMOST ANY INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND SO THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF A RELEASE OF THAT PRESSURE, AT LEAST AT THE ENTRANCE OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

YEAH, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ACCOUNTS, MAN.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS TONIGHT, WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN THE PAST.

WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AS A COUNCIL AND AS STAFF WITH REGARD TO OLD STEIN.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ON OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, OLD WHEATER STEIN IS A SECONDARY, OUR SECONDARY ARTERIAL 90 FEET WIDE RIGHT AWAY, TWO 12 FOOT TRAVEL RANGE IN EACH DIRECTION.

SO A FOUR FOOT ROAD CENTER MEDIAN AND PARKWAYS AS WELL.

SO PART OF THE PROBLEM ON WIER STEIN, RIGHT, IS IT, IT DOESN'T NEED TO JUST BE FIXED UP TO TAKE OUT THE BUMPS.

IT, IT DOESN'T NEC JUST NEED TO BE WIDENED.

IT NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED AND IMPROVED TO THE FULL, THE FULL STANDARD.

AND SO, UH, A COUPLE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE, RIGHT? PART OF THE COMPLAINT IS, WELL, WE GET DEVELOPMENT AND WE START GETTING MORE TRAFFIC.

THE ROAD HASN'T BEEN FULLY IMPROVED.

BUT AS THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED, OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAYS, DEDICATING EASEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AS WELL WITH THE PLATING OF PROPERTY.

AND THEN THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO THE ROAD NETWORK.

NOW, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT SOME LIMITATIONS ON THAT WITH REGARD TO ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, BUT THE CITY ALSO HAS A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE, RIGHT? AND SO DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T SORT OF BUILD THEIR FAIR SHARE OF ROAD HAS TO MAKE THOSE, HAS TO PAY INTO THAT.

AND THAT CAN BE USED IN THAT SERVICE AREA.

SO I GET THE FRUSTRATION THAT WHILE WE'RE GETTING MORE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GETTING TRAFFIC, BUT WE ALSO GET PORTIONS OF, UH, RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATED EASEMENTS, DEDICATED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS MADE AND OR IMPACT FEES DEDICATED THAT THE CITY CAN THEN GO IN TO USE AND MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT.

AND SO THAT'S JUST THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IN TEXAS WITH IT.

AND, AND SO CERTAINLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS LOOK AT WHEN THE PROJECT COMES IN, UH, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A DE CELL LANE WOULD BE NEEDED OR NOT, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S REALLY WARRANTED RELATIVE TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WOULD MAKE, RIGHT? UM, AND SO PART OF IT THAT WE TRY TO BALANCE HERE, AND IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON 1518 WHEN THEY CAME IN THIS QUESTION OF DID THEY BUILD A DESAL LANE? WELL, WHERE IS TXDOT WITH REGARD TO MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT MAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE TO 1518? SO ALL OF THAT IS A LONG-WINDED EXPLANATION TO SAY WE, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A DESAL LANE.

WE WOULD DETERMINE THAT AT TIME OF PLATTING AND SITE PLAN TO SEE WHAT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE MAKING, WHERE THE ESTIMATED TRAFFIC IS COMING IN AND OUT INTO WHAT DEGREE THAT DELAYS IT GOING FORWARD.

UM, IS IS ESSENTIALLY THE ISSUE.

UM, AND PART OF THE CHALLENGE ON THIS ONE THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE IS, AGAIN, WE'LL LIKELY GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO A SECTION OF STEIN WHERE THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT THAT YOU CAN SEE.

BUT ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO DO A TRANSITION AND IT'LL NECK BACK DOWN.

SO MY INITIAL SITTING UP HERE IS THE, THE BIGGEST BOTTLENECK ISSUES ARE NOT GONNA BE THE TURNING MOVEMENT INTO THE PROPERTY AS MUCH AS IT IS THOSE TRANSITIONS BACK WHERE THEY'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR SIDE TO WHERE IT DOESN'T OCCUR.

AGAIN, PART OF WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO IS LOOK AT SOME ABILITY.

WE'VE GOT TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO PARTNER WITH THEM FOR THE CITY TO FUND SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY ON WIER STEIN, THAT IF THEY'RE GOING IN AND IRON A CONTRACTOR TO DO THINGS, WE CAN TACK ONTO SOME OF THAT USING ROADWAY IMPACT FEE MONIES, UH, TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, TO MITIGATE THOSE THINGS GOING FORWARD.

AND FRANKLY, TO AVOID THROWAWAY COST, RIGHT? WE WANT IT TO, TO BE SERVICEABLE AND USABLE TILL TILL THE ROAD'S IMPROVED.

UH, BUT WE TRY TO AVOID THOSE THROWAWAY COSTS, UH, WHERE WE CAN HELP IT.

AND

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YEAH, I MEAN, I, I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I JUST, IT IT, IT IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TO BE, UH, BEHIND MAKE THE DECISION WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CLOUDINESS WITH IT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, ESPECIALLY IN, IN THAT SITUATION WITH THAT ROAD THERE.

RIGHT? SO IF I CAN MAKE A POINT HERE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO IS COMING FROM, BUT 30 0 9 WAS ALSO A TWO-LANE ROAD.

WE HAD SAVANNAH, WE HAD WOODLAWN, AND WE HAD DOUG METALS THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE FM 30 0 9.

THAT WAS WORSE THAN OLD WEERS STEIN IS AT THIS POINT.

WE ALSO HAVE 1518, WE HAD RYAN VALLEY, THE CROSS FIND HALL, UH, HALL'S COVE, UH, AND WILLOW GROVE.

AND THAT ROAD IS PRETTY BAD ITSELF.

NOT AS BAD AS 30 0 9 WAS BAD IN THOSE DAYS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WHICH COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG.

UH, AT ONE POINT THAT ROAD WILL BE FIXED, BUT IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHEN.

AND THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS JUST PART OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND IT HAS ACCESS TO, UH, OLD STEIN, BUT IT HAS ACCESS TO ANOTHER ROAD THAT WILL PROVIDE, UH, ACCESS TO, UH, RITZ, UH, RITZ, UH, CHRYSLER, UH, ROAD.

AND IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE AT THIS POINT.

BUT I, I THINK IN THIS SITUATION, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND THE TRAFFIC.

IF IT'S A SENIOR COMMUNITY, MOST, MOST OF THESE SENIORS WILL BE LEAVING DURING BINGO TIME.

FROM WHAT I, I MEAN, FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF EVERYONE THAT'S OVER THE AGE OF 60, UH, THEY, THEY ADJUST THEIR SCHEDULES BASED ON TRAFFIC.

UH, THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS.

THEY'RE DROPPING OFF AT SCHOOL.

THEY'RE NOT, SOME OF THEM, WE MAY NOT BE EMPLOYED 55, MAYBE THEY'LL RETIRE AT 60, 65, BUT THE IMPACT IS NOT AS GREAT AS IT WOULD BE IF THIS WAS A, A WHOLE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THE IMPACT IS NOT AS GREAT.

UH, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL COME WITH TIME.

ALSO IS, LIKE I SAID, FIXING OLD STEIN IS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WILL COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM ONE, FROM 1103 ALL THE WAY TO SI VALLEY DRIVE.

UH, AND THIS IS PART OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, BUT IT TOOK ALMOST 10 YEARS TO GET 1518 TAKEN CARE OF.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK FM 30 0 9, BECAUSE I GOT HERE IN 91 AND THEY STARTED WORKING IN 94.

BUT I'M SURE THERE WAS PROJECTS.

THAT PROJECT WAS BEING DISCUSSED WAY BEFORE THAT TIME PERIOD.

WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THAT UP TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GUERRERO.

UM, I KNOW WE HAVE THE, UH, THE, THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE OLD BEATERS LINE ROAD IS, IS ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS PACKED.

UH, WHAT ABOUT THE, THE COMPLEX ITSELF? 'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE FOR SENIORS, CORRECT? IS THERE LIKE A, AN OFFICE POINT OF CONTACT WHERE THESE SENIORS CAN GO TO FOR ASSISTANCE? FOR HELP? GUIDANCE, SUPPORT TELEHEALTH IS BASICALLY WHERE THERE ARE DOCTORS THAT ARE REMOTE, SO THEY CAN GO ON, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY CAN GO TO THE AMENITY CENTER IS WITHIN THAT, SO THEY CAN ESSENTIALLY JUST WALK TO IT AND GET THEIR DOCTOR'S OPINION ON SOMETHING IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF CRISES THAT HAPPENS.

SO IS THIS 24 7 OR JUST DURING DUTY HOURS OR IT'S USUALLY BY APPOINTMENT.

UH, THE, THE, THE DOCTORS ARE REMOTE, SO JUST TO SCHEDULE IT, UH, THERE'S NOBODY ON SITE FOR THAT.

UH, BUT THAT DOES ALLOW, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN EMERGENCY, SAY, I WOULD ALWAYS RECOMMEND GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.

BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET A TIME SLOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, IT'S SHORT NOTICE.

BUT THAT'S FOR MEDICAL, CORRECT? UH, IT IS FOR MEDICAL.

UH, BUT WHAT ABOUT AN OFFICE FOR, JUST FOR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY MAY NEED? YES.

THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE CLUBHOUSE.

UH, THE AMENITY CENTER.

THERE WILL BE AN OFFICE IN THERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, UM, BUT I DO LOOK AT, LOOK AT IT FROM THE BASIS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS GROWN SO BIG, SO FAST.

WE DO NEED A VARIETY OF HOUSING.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK A DEDICATED, ANOTHER DEDICATED, UM,

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55 AND UP COMMUNITY WOULD NOT BE A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC.

UM, WE HAVE OUR BUDGET TALKS, UH, AND WE, WE, WE WORKED ON THE ROADS.

SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS COMPLAIN A LOT OF TIME ABOUT THE ROADS AND, AND SOME OF THEM ARE, WE'RE HAMSTRUNG ON, WE CAN'T CONTROL 3 0 0 9, WE CAN'T CONTROL FM 78.

WE C WE CAN'T CONTROL FM 1518.

UM, BUT WE FOUND WAYS TO PUSH THOSE THROUGH THE PIPELINE IN WORKING WITH TXDOT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON LOWER SINE ROAD.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE ROADS IN THE COMMUNITY, I KIND OF THINK OLD STEIN OUGHT TO BE ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S ABOUT A TWO MILE STRETCH.

UH, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS AND OUR BONDING PROCESS FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, IT IS IDENTIFIED ON OUR MASTER THIRD FAIR PLAN.

IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, UH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

BUT I THINK ANOTHER GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS, IS WE LOOK AT THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

THIS INCLUDES THE DEDICATION OF ANOTHER SECTION OF, OF, OF ROAD THAT WILL TIE INTO RIPS CHRYSLER, UH, YOU KNOW, AND RIPS.

CHRYSLER WENT FROM DEAD ENDING FOR THE ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES AT THE SLO CITY LINE TO NOW IT COMES FROM 3 0 0 9 ALL THE WAY UP TO SLO VALLEY DRIVE NOW ACROSS SIBO VALLEY DRIVE.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT BY MERIT AND COMPANY, UH, IS NOW TAKING IT UP OVER THE HILL.

THIS PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT PIECE NOW, UH, TO ULTIMATELY MAKE THAT CONNECTION IN THERE, WHICH WILL IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FOR EVERYBODY UP IN THAT NORTHERN AREA.

SO I, I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD PLAN AT ALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

I JUST NEEDED SOME UNDERSTANDING.

SO UP THE TRAFFIC, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, DOCUMENT? WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED PEAK HOUR, PEAK HOUR TRIPS? SO A HUNDRED PEAK HOUR TRIPS BY CODE, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS WHAT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR A TIA.

AND SO THE, THAT'S REALLY A THRESHOLD OF ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT IS CONSIDERED SO INSIGNIFICANT THAT DOESN'T TRIGGER A BIG STUDY.

AND, AND THEN SO HOW DID YOU GET TO THE, UH, THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS? 36, THAT'S JUST BASED UPON LIKE MAYBE THE MAYOR SAID THE, UH, EXPECTED TRAVEL IN AND OUT.

SO WHAT YOU DO IS WE USE THE INTERNATIONAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, UH, CODE BOOK, THE ITE BOOK, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED AS WELL.

AND SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING 144, UH, UNITS, DWELL UNITS, UH, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE PRODUCES AND KIND OF SAY WHAT'S CALLED THE PEAK HOUR RATE.

AND THAT'S THE 0.25.

SO YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY HOW MANY UNITS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS, UH, AT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TYPICALLY A, A HOME IS ROUGHLY ONE, UH, A NORMAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT PRODUCES ONE PEAK HOUR TRIP BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S LEAVING THEIR HOUSE EARLY AT THAT MORNING.

YEP.

AND THEN COMING HOME AT THAT SAME TIME.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THE SENIORS ARE A QUARTER OF THAT.

JUST 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT THEIR LIFESTYLE.

SO YOU TAKE THE SENIOR ADULT MULTIFAMILY, THERE IS A PEAK HOUR RATE 0.25, MULTIPLY THAT BY 1 44, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, SOME TYPE OF YES, SIR.

AND THEN YOU GET YOUR 36 AND IT'S WAY BELOW A HUNDRED.

SO YES SIR.

I WOULD SAY A TYPICAL PROJECT LIKE THIS, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A COUPLE YEARS OUT BEFORE SEEING KIND OF BUILDINGS GOING UP AND PEOPLE STARTING TO MOVE IN IF THEY PROCEEDED KIND OF DIRECTLY FROM ZONING TO THE, THE PLATING SITE PLAN.

AND HOW LONG IS THE PLATTING PROCESS OUT FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTS? WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER AND THEN HE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER AS HE ROLLS HIS EYES.

PROBABLY.

UH, THE QUESTION IS, IT VARIES, RIGHT? AND SO JUST TO REMIND YOU, OUR PLATTING PROCESS, UH, SO INITIALLY THEY COME IN WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, THAT IS APPROVED AT A STAFF LEVEL.

UM, AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON SORT OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE, OF THE SITUATION.

UM, ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, THEN THAT, UH, ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER TO PROCEED ESSENTIALLY WITH DOING THE FULL CIVIL DRAWINGS.

AND THAT INVOLVES A LOT HERE BECAUSE OF THE WIEDER STEIN ROAD, BECAUSE OF THE, THE ADJACENT ROAD AS WELL.

UM, AND ONCE THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF, WE THEN THEY DIDN'T TURN IN THE FINAL PLAT THAT GETS APPROVED.

UH, AND THEN THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION.

IF YOU, IF IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD PLAT AND, AND YOU GO PRETTY QUICK, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET THROUGH, UM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'S THAT LAG TIME FOR THE, THE CIVIL DESIGN ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, AND THEN PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS FROM THERE.

UH, BUT AGAIN, AS STAFF WOULD TELL YOU, AND DAISY MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, AND AS THIS ENGINEER AND, AND THE APPLICANT, NO, WE RECOMMEND PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCES.

THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET THOSE ISSUES OUT OF THE WAY UP FRONT.

UM, AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING TRICKY ON THIS, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT, NOT ON AN FM ROADWAY THAT HELPS, MEANS T'S NOT INVOLVED, UH, WE CAN MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY WITH IT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF WHAT THAT IS ARE THOSE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS COMING IN FOR THE PLANNING PROCESS.

BUT AGAIN, THE PLAT DOESN'T GET FILED TILL THEY CONSTRUCT.

AND SO

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SO IF WE'RE A COUPLE YEARS OUT, ACCORDING TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, HOW QUICKLY OR HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT? SO, SO WE'VE GOT, AS COUNCILMAN DAVIS ALLUDED TO, SO STEIN ROAD IS ONE OF THE ROADS THAT'S SORT OF A PRIORITY IN THE SERVICE AREA.

IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THAT ROADWAY IMPACT FEE SERVICE AREA.

IT IS ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

NOW, AGAIN, FOLKS WILL SAY, WELL, IS IT NEXT YEAR? NO, WE'VE GOT A TENTATIVE DATE OF 2028 TO 2033.

WE ESTIMATED WITH THE CIP THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE THAT THIS IS A $17 MILLION PROJECT.

SO AGAIN, HAVE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING, HAVE TO DO THE FULL DESIGN OF IT, HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY AND HAVE TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS.

SO AGAIN, LET ME BE CLEAR, AND AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THE POINTS, YOU WILL LIKELY SEE THIS PROJECT DEVELOPED AND TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF IT BEFORE THE OTHER PARTS OF WIER STEIN ARE IMPROVED.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO KINDA ALL LIVE THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC AS WIER STEIN GOES UNDER UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

BUT AS COUNCIL KNOWS, OUR PROBLEM IS WE HAVE ALL OF THESE NEEDS WE HAVE TO FUND.

AND SO ON THE ONE HAND, IT CAUSES TO SAY, WELL, I'D RATHER THIS THING NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THE ROAD YET.

BUT I WILL NOT, I I WOULD, I WOULD COST YOU NOT TO UNDERAPPRECIATE THE LITERAL COST TO THE CITY IF WE HAD TO GO OUT AND ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ACQUIRE THE EASEMENTS.

AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DEVELOPER MAKING THE CONTRIBUTION OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AND OR PAYING ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY HOW THIS THING HAPPENED.

AND AGAIN, I'VE SAID THIS TO PNZA LOT.

WE, WE LOVE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT TEXAS, RIGHT? IT'S WHY WE ALL LIVE HERE.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS IN TEXAS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOLLOWS THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE JUST NOW SEEING 1518 GO INTO CONSTRUCTION EVEN THOUGH IT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A, A TDOT ROAD, AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING THE WAY IT WORKS IN TEXAS TO GO OUT AND PREEMPTIVELY BUILD THESE GRAND BOULEVARDS BEFORE THERE'S TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC STARTS GETTING BAD MOVES UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST.

WE TAKE THOSE FEES THAT ARE PAID, WE TAKE THE LITTLE KIND OF CHECKERBOARD PATTERN THAT DEVELOPERS CONTRIBUTE AND THAT'S HOW THE ROAD GETS IMPROVED.

SO I WOULD ARGUE IF THIS PROJECT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD AND WE WERE SITTING HERE A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW, WE WOULD HAVE FOLKS SAYING TRAFFIC HAS GOTTEN WORSE.

AND IT HAS BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL OF THAT BACKGROUND TRAFFIC AND YET WE'RE NO FURTHER ALONG TO MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS OR GETTING THOSE RIGHT OF WAYS OR GETTING THOSE EASEMENTS.

AGAIN, WE TEND TO LOOK, LONG TERM STAFF WOULD SAY THE REASON ON OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN WE HAVE THAT, THAT ARTERIAL THE FOUR LANES, UH, IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH AND DEMAND THAT'S COMING, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

AGAIN, YOU HEARD THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH CORRIDOR IN, SO IT'S COMING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE CHALLENGES AGAIN, WE TRY TO FIND THE APPROACH WHERE WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO HELP BENEFIT OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS BY GETTING AS MUCH AN IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TO TRY TO OVERCOME THOSE ISSUES.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE A MESS TILL IT GETS IMPROVED.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, OVERVIEW.

AND I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DAVIS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE THIS, THESE THINGS, THE PRIORITIES AND, AND TO PUT 'EM IN PERSPECTIVE THERE AND, AND, UH, UH, PRIORITIZE AND, AND FUND AS, AS REQUIRED.

AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT STEIN HAS BEEN A, UH, PRIORITY ROAD FOR SOME TIME, AND AS IT DEVELOPS, IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE OF A PRIORITY.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO, YES, I ALSO AGREE, UH, OLD STEIN ROAD, IT, IT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S TRAFFIC THERE AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT WORSE.

SO OLD STEIN ROAD MUST BE A PRIORITY.

UH, NOW HERE'S ANOTHER OFF THE WALL QUESTION.

WHAT ABOUT MAKING AN EXIT GOING TOWARDS, UH, THE, UH, INTERSTATE? SO AGAIN, THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE THE DEVELOPER OR STAFF HAVING A GRAPHIC, BUT JUST AS YOU RECALL, HE HAS FRONTAGE ON STEIN AND THEN HE HAS FRONTAGE ON A ROAD THAT RUNS NORTH, SOUTH, NORTH BEING TOWARDS 35, RIGHT? SO OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN HAS ANOTHER ROAD, RIGHT, THAT, THAT WILL GET YOU, UM, 2 35.

EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BUILD A SECTION OF IT AND THEN IT'LL CONTINUE ON.

AGAIN, AS COUNCILMAN DAVIS MENTIONED, YOU HAVE RICH CHRYSLER, UH, THAT THE PLAN IS FROM ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER AND THE COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO MAKE THAT EXTENSION.

UM, SO AGAIN, THIS STARTS TO FILL IN THAT NETWORK SO THAT EVENTUALLY AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT OUR CITY,

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UH, WHAT WE'VE GOT IS WE WILL HAVE, UH, THAT NETWORK OF ROADS TO GET YOU TO THE 35 THAT'S NOT DRIVING DOWN DEN KNOT HILL ROAD.

AND IF SAM CAN BRING IT UP.

THANK YOU, SAM.

SO THERE IS, THERE'S A MASTER THOROUGH THOROUGHFARE AIRPLANE ROUTE THAT GOES NORTH SOUTH LIKE THIS THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THIS RIPS CHRYSLER IS ALSO EX ON THE THOROUGHFARE AIRPLANE ROUTE TO GO ACROSS AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THEY ALL THESE ARE KIND OF BE CONNECTED AT SOME POINT AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO EXIT THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BRAMAN.

I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ON ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION, BUT I THINK THE, UH, PROPOSAL HERE TONIGHT IS ON ZONING AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE, UH, WHAT IS IT, 25 S 27.

SECOND.

WE HAVE MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN AND SECOND BY MAYOR PRO HAYWARD COUNCIL.

WE HAVE SEVEN AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.

YEAR IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 1 74.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ANOTHER,

[9. Ordinance 25-S-029 – Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone approximately 173 acres of land from Agricultural District (AD) and Single-Family Residential / Agricultural District (R-A) to Single-Family Residential District (R-1), Single-Family Residential District (R-2), and Single-Family Residential District (R-6), known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 310012, 309425, 309427, generally located 1,000 feet to the west of Cibolo Creek on Lower Seguin Road, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas. (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]

UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 25.

ASK 0 2 9.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REZO IN APPROXIMATELY 173 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AD AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SLASH AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT R DASH A TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R SIX, ALSO KNOWN AS BEAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 1 0 0 1 2 3 0 9 4 2 5 3 0 9 4 2 7 LOCATED 1000 FEET EAST.

UM, EXCUSE ME, 1000 FEET WEST OF SLO ABOUT THAT CREEK.

SORRY ABOUT THAT CREEK ON LAURAINE ROAD.

CITY OF SHIRTS, BEAR COUNTY, TEXAS.

MR. HOUSE FOR FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL, MR. JAMES AGAIN.

UH, THIS IS ORDINANCE 25 S 0 2 9 SAMUEL HALL, SENIOR PLANNER.

JUST TO GET OUR BEARINGS HERE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN.

THIS IS LOWER SINE ROAD ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH.

THIS IS, UH, THIS SLO CREEK RIGHT HERE RUNNING ALONG THE PROPERTY.

SADDLEBROOK SUBDIVISION AND RHINE VALLEY ARE FURTHER TO THE WEST.

UH, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IT IS 173 ACRES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO FOR THE ZONE CHANGE RIGHT NOW AS JUST A RURAL RESIDENCE AND A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND.

SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THREE SEPARATE TRACKS, A, UH, 95 ACRE TRACK TO R ONE A 51 ACRE TRACT R TWO, AND THEN A 27 ACRE TRACT R SIX.

UH, THE PURPOSE IS TO REZONE THIS INTO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH A MIXTURE OF HOUSING AND LOT TYPES.

ON MAY 23RD, 2025, A TOTAL OF EIGHT PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.

WE'VE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

HERE IS A, UH, EXHIBIT SHOWING THE ZONE CHANGE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S ALL AGRICULTURAL LAND RIGHT NOW WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RA UP THE FRONT AND THEN HOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, SPLIT THE TRACKS UP WITH THE ZONING.

JUST A LITTLE REFRESHER ON THE, UH, DIMENSIONAL AND DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, THIS, THESE THREE ZONING DISTRICTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE VERY FAIRLY SIMILAR, UH, EXCEPT THE WIDTH SIZE GETS SMALLER.

R ONE IS 80, R TWO IS 70, AND R IS SIX IS 60.

THEY'RE ALL 120 FOOT IN DEPTH.

SO AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONE CHANGES, WE LOOK AT UDC, SECTION 21 5 4 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

NUMBER ONE, WHETHER PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.

UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, USES ALONG WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

UM, THE MULTIPLE FAMILY TYPE, MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TYPES, UH, DOES FIT THAT MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES.

SO THIS DOES, UM, CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.

NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE PROMOTES HEALTH, SAFETY, GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.

SO AGAIN, AS PART OF PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE, WE ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING USES.

UH, LOWER SEIN ROAD IS, UH, DEVELOPING INTO A, UH, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S RHINE VALLEY, THERE'S CARMEL RANCH, THERE'S SADDLEBROOK.

UM, ALL THOSE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT LOT SIZES.

UH, MONTEREY MEADOWS, WHICH WAS APPROVED AS 24 S 1 48 LAST

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HERE'S SORT OF A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THAT.

SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, UM, THESE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, SO, UM, DEFINITELY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.

SO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED ON THIS.

UH, IT DOES, UM, REACH THAT PEAK, PEAK, UH, HOUR THRESHOLD.

UM, SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE TO DO TO LOWER SEINEN ROAD IS A RIGHT TURN DECEL DECELERATION LANE AND A LEFT TURN ENTRANCE AT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS WILL BE BUTTONED DOWN AT THE PLATTING PHASE.

NUMBER THREE, WHETHER USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

AGAIN, AS I, AS I MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS, UM, BEING DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

THE USES IN THIS PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE MATCHES WHAT'S OCCURRING IN THE AREA.

AND NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.

SURE IT'S FIRE.

EMS AND POLICE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE AND PROVIDED NO OBJECTION.

S-C-U-C-I-S-D HAS ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL DUE TO THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN AND THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF 25 S 0 29.

UH, THE CITY SHERIFF'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 4TH, 2025 AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH A SEVEN TO ZERO VOTE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. HASSEL.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD HE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? GOOD EVENING.

PAUL LANDO WITH MTR ENGINEERS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.

UH, JUST TO REITERATE, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOP, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH MULTIPLE LOT SIZES, SIXTIES, SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES.

UH, WE HAVE, I GUESS THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY BEEN REQUESTED TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE 80 FOOT LOTS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

SO THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR LAND PLAN.

AND SO WE WOULD EXCEED THE MEN ZONING REQUIREMENTS ON THE R ONE ZONING.

SO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE TIME IS 8 0 2.

IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

THE TIME IS 8 0 3.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

OH, FOUND THIS ON THE WEB.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY MY PHONE DID IT IN A MINUTE.

GO.

WELL, THAT, THAT CLOCK'S NOT WORKING, SO I HAVE TO USE MY IPAD.

SO I'M SORRY FOR THAT INTERRUPTION THERE.

I, IT'S GOING OVERNIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, I, I SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE THAT, UM, UH, DIFFERENCE IN, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE R ONE AND THE R AND THE FIVE.

I LIKE THE CHANGES.

I LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE, IT'S BRINGING SOME VARIETY THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN IN A LOT OF PROJECTS RECENTLY, SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS IS BEING PROPOSED.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS THERE? MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 29.

SO MOVE.

I'LL SECOND HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO COUNCIL.

WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.

WE HAVE SEVEN AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.

IS THE QUARTERLY UPDATE, CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL APPROVED ZONING AND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ORDINANCE IN RELATIONSHIP TO CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STATUS.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

UH, TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER

[10. Monthly Update - Major Projects in Progress/CIP (B.James/K.Woodlee)]

10 IS MONTHLY UPDATES.

MAJOR PRO PROJECTS IN PROGRESS CPI.

ITEM NUMBER 11

[11. Quarterly Update-City Council Approved Zoning and Specific Use Permit Ordinances in relation to current development status (B.James/L.Wood/E.Delgado)]

THESE ARE INFORMATION PACKETS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING AT OUR WEBSITE.

SHIRTS.COM.

WITH

[ Requests and Announcements Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers for updates or information from Staff Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers that items or presentations be placed on a future City Council agenda City and Community Events attended and to be attended (Council) ]

THAT COUNSEL, ANY POSSIBLE UPDATES OR INFORMATION REQUESTED FROM STAFF? STAFF? NONE.

COUNSEL, ANY POSSIBLE, UH, ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO PLACE ON THE FUTURE AGENDA? MAYOR PRO TEMP HAYWARD? UH, YES, I'D LIKE TO, UM, FIRST TO CONSIDER PLACING ON THE AGENDA THE AMERICAN FLOYD COALITION TO BE MEMBERS.

IT IS FREE TO THE CITY'S.

I AM A SINGLE MEMBER AND IT'S HELPING WITH, UH, RESOLUTIONS AND

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I DON'T MEAN RESOLUTIONS.

IT'S HELPING WITH FUNDING AND PUSHING FUNDING.

AND THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR STATE REPS TO TRY AND PUSH FUNDING FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AS WELL AS INDIANA.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD IDEA TO HELP 'CAUSE THEY HELP TRY TO WORK WITH GETTING FUNDING AND MITIGATING FLOODING.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS CAB T, WHICH IS THE COALITION AGAINST BIGGER TRUCKS.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE IF COUNCIL, IT'S NOT A MEMBERSHIP OR ANYTHING, BUT DO A RESOLUTION, UM, STATING THAT WE WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT IS RAMPING UP.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND IT IS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE PUSHING TO HAVE LARGER TRUCKS AND HEAVIER TRUCKS ON OUR ROADWAYS.

AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA THAT'S COMING OUT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE POSSIBLY DISCUSS PUTTING A RESOLUTION SAYING WE CAN SUPPORT CAB TM WHEN THEY NEED US TO MAKE PHONE CALLS OR SEND AN EMAIL.

WE'D BE WILLING TO.

UM, I'LL HAVE, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER GET WITH YOU SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE DETAILS AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

COUNSEL, ANY, ANY OTHER, UH, ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA? ALRIGHT.

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MAYOR PRO TEMP HAYWARD.

UH, YES, I DID MY, UM, TML BOARD MEETING.

WHEN YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT, YOU GET TO HAVE IT IN YOUR CITY.

OUR CITY WAS CLOSED, SO I GOT TO HAVE IT AT BLUE BONNET.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK BLUE BONNET FOR ACCOMMODATING US AND I WANNA THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DID TO HELP ACCOMMODATE AND MAKE MY, UM, BOARD MEETING A SUCCESS.

ALSO, I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, WE HAVE A RIVERWAY CHEESE FACTORY AND WE TOOK A TOUR AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.

SO THEY MAKE CHEESE IN OUR AREA.

UM, YOU CAN ONLINE ORDER.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

AND SO THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

I DID THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEY ARE, THEY KEEP DOING A FANTASTIC JOB AND NOW THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL TRAINING ROOM.

SO IT'S A GREAT PLACE AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE, GO DOWN THERE.

THEY'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU AROUND AND BRAG ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, THE TML LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, GOOD NEWS IS THERE WON'T A WHOLE LOT OF BILLS THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US IN A BAD WAY, BUT WE NOW HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION COMING UP AND WE HOPE THAT NOTHING FOR CITIES WILL BE ADDED TO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO? NOTHING.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

NOTHING TONIGHT, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.

NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO? YES.

JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THE FLAGS, UH, ALONG CHURCHS PARKWAY, THEY LOOK EXCELLENT.

IT SHOWS PATRIOTISM FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTS FROM THE RESIDENTS OF SHIRTS.

AWESOME.