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IT'S UM, IT'S NOW 6:00 PM 6:00 PM THIS IS THE REGULAR MAY 7TH, 2025, REGULAR MEETING OF THE SHIRTS, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ITEM NUMBER ONE MEETING WAS CALLED ORDER AT 6:00 PM ITEM NUMBER TWO, SEAT ALTERNATE
[2. SEAT ALTERNATE TO ACT IF REQUIRED]
THE REQUI, UH, IF REQUIRED.MR. WALLACE IS JOINING US AGAIN THIS EVENING.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, HEARING OF RESIDENCE.
ANYBODY, ANYBODY GET TO GRAB THE SHEET? STILL IN THE BACK? I THINK NOBODY SIGNED UP.
AND JUST AS A POINT OF, UH, POINT OF ORDER, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN THAT.
SO ALL, UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER
[4. CONSENT AGENDA:]
FOUR IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THAT AGENDA THAT IS THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 2ND, 2025 REGULAR MEETING COMMISSIONERS.
DOES THAT ITEM NEED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARBONE TO APPROVE.
DO YOU PUBLISH THAT VOTE PLEASE.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
PUBLIC HEARING PLANNING OF ZONING COMMISSION WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS, AND UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.
WITHIN THIS AGENDA, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPEN TO RECEIVE A REPORT FROM STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AND ANY OTHER INTERESTED PERSONS ON COMPLETION.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED.
THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION AND MAY REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF OR THE APPLICANT IF REQUIRED.
AFTER DELIBERATION, THE COMMISSION IS ASKED TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF NECESSARY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THOSE, I'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO, UH, MOVE ITEM SIX, A, B, C, AND D, UM, A TO UH, MOVE THEM UP IN THE AGENDA TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE, UM, ITEM FIVE D THAT RECOMMENDED THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE UDC.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO TO THAT? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL DO, UH, FIVE A, B, AND C AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN TO SIX A, B, C, D AND COME BACK TO FIVE D.
[A. PLZC20250055 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 4.15 acres of land from General Business District (GB) to General Business District-2 (GB-2), generally known as 46 Maske Road and 44 Maske Road, Lots 3 and 4, Block 1 of the Maske Road Business Park Subdivision, more specifically known as Guadalupe County Property Identification Numbers 199116, and 199117.]
2 2 5 0 0 5 5.HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.15 ACRES OF LAND FROM GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT GB TO GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TWO, GB TWO, GENERALLY KNOWN AS 46 MASSEY ROAD AND 44 MASSEY ROAD LOTS THREE AND FOUR BLOCK, ONE OF THE MASSEY ROAD BUSINESS PARK SUBDIVISION, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY.
PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS 1 9 9 1 1 6 AND 1 9 9 1 1 7 FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSION PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 5.
A PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO GB TWO ON MASSEY ROAD.
WILLIAM WILLINGHAM PLANNER FOR YOUR ORIENTATION.
THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE HERE TO ITS SIDES.
UH, THESE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AS GB GENERAL BUSINESS AND THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.
ACROSS BEHIND THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED GB TWO, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY DOING BUSINESS AS OFFICE WAREHOUSE OR DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.
AND THEN ACROSS THE WAY IS MASKEY ROAD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY CATEGORIZED AS A COMMERCIAL COLLECTOR NOTIFICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY.
PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ON APRIL 25TH, 2025.
AS OF TODAY, WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL AND A NOT NOTIFICATION
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SIGN WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT.IN ADDITION TO THAT, JBSA HAS ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AS IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE A PZ AND JBSA HAS AFFIRMATIVE AFFIRMATIVELY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
SO, SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY CHARACTERIZED BY EITHER GB OR GB TWO ZONING.
UM, SO THIS PROPERTY, AS YOU KNOW AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, IS A GB DISTRICT AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE TO A GB TWO DISTRICT.
SOME MORE CONTEXT FOR THE SITES.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE A PZ TWO, SO THAT IS THE ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONE AND SO THAT A PZ IS ESTABLISHED, SO THAT WAY THERE IS COMPATIBLE LAND USES BETWEEN JBSA AND THE SHIRTS AND SURROUNDING AREA.
AND SO THE PURPOSE AND EFFECT, THE EFFECT OF THE APZ TWO IS THAT WE REQUIRE PER OUR UDC, THAT JBSA AFFIRMATIVELY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
OTHERWISE IT WILL NOT COME FORWARD.
UH, JBSA HAS AFFIRMATIVELY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
SO THE SIDING CONTEXT, YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE SITES CURRENT CONDITIONS.
YOU SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME ACROSS THE WAY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE SOCCER COMPLEXES THAT EXIST OUT THERE ON MASQUE ROAD.
AND JUST FROM THAT AERIAL VIEW, YOU CAN STILL SEE THAT THIS AREA IS RELATIVELY UNDEVELOPED.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT MOVING IN, IN THOSE GB TWO ZONES, ZONING AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT BETWEEN GB AND GB TWO, THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AND THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCES EXIST BETWEEN THE PERMITTED USES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PERMITTED USE OF GB TWO, THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE ARE GONNA BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS NON EXHAUSTIVE, BUT AUTO REPAIRS SERVICE MAJOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE OR DISTRIBUTION CENTER, AND A MINI WAREHOUSE OR PUBLIC STORAGE WITHIN SUP, THESE WOULD BE PERMITTED IN A GB TWO DISTRICT, WHEREAS THEY'RE NOT IN THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT UDC SECTION 2154 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THESE CASES, WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
RIGHT NOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS LOCATION AS IN INDUSTRIAL HUB, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR MANUFACTURING PROCESSING AND DISTRIBUTING USES.
THE REQUESTED USE IS A GENERAL BUSINESS TWO, GB TWO, AND IT'S INTENDED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE PROMOTES THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY AS PART OF PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
SO JUST AS I WAS DISCUSSING PREVIOUSLY, IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE A PZ TWO AND FOR, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING THAT GENERAL WELFARE AND SAFETY, WE REQUIRE THAT JBSA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF AFFIRMATIVE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM THAT JBSA HAS PROVIDED THAT LETTER.
THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED IN THE PROPOSED ZONE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE WITH THE EXISTING USES OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
SO, JUST AS I'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AND IS KIND OF MOVING TOWARDS THAT GB TWO KIND OF INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE.
AND SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE GB TWO ZONE.
THEY'RE INTENDING TO BUILD AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE, DISTRIBUTING CENTER.
AND SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND THE SHIRTS FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND HAVE PROVIDED NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.
SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION DUE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN AND THE AFFIRMATIVE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE FROM JBSA STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 5.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, SIR, IF YOU LET US HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, THANKS TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, YEAH, SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS SLIDES REAL QUICK.
FIRST OF ALL, WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
UM, I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF A FAMILY BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS OVER 70 YEARS IN MEXICO, BUILDING VIRTUALLY IN ALL NORTH AMERICA, MEXICO, THE US, AND CENTRAL AMERICA.
UM, MY BROTHER IS HERE TO WITH ME.
UH, IT'S TO, TO GIVE YOU A A LITTLE OF CONTEXT, UH, IT'S MAINLY FOCUSED ON, UH, BUILDING PREFABRICATED STEEL, UH, PRECAST
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CONCRETE ROOFING SYSTEMS, LOGISTICS AND TRANSPORTATION AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA.
UM, WE'VE DONE MANY PROJECTS FOR, UH, LARGE COMPANIES, FOR SMALL COMPANIES.
UH, WE LIKE TO BE, UH, ANYWHERE IN ALL THE REALM OF REAL ESTATE.
AND WE LOVE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
WE LOVE THE GREATER AREA OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE CITY OF CHURCH A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN LIKING A LOT, UH, WHAT WE SEE HERE, THE AREA, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
AND AS SUCH, UH, WELL WE, WE, WE FOUND THIS PLACE.
WE THINK IT'S IS AN INTERESTING PLACE, HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND WE WOULD LIKE RESPECTFULLY TO REQUEST FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE OF THE LOTS THREE AND FOUR OF THIS MASK ROAD.
UH, FROM GENERAL BUSINESS TO GENERAL BUSINESS TWO, TO ENABLE FASTER AND MORE IMPACTFUL DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL AND WAREHOUSING USES, WHICH IS OUR INTENDED USE FOR THIS LAND.
THIS IS HOW THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE AS OF TODAY.
WE HAVE ON THE TOP CORNER ON THE LEFT, THE PLOT OF THE PROPERTY, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS LIKE.
THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF THE SLIDE, WE ARE INTENDING TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT OVER THERE.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BUILDINGS, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.
AND UM, YEAH, WE, WE THINK THAT IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO ATTRACT NEW TENANTS, UH, THAT ARE GONNA BECOME NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA OPERATE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE GONNA BE, UH, PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OVERALL.
THIS IS AN INDICATIVE USE THIS BY NO MEANS, UH, IS WHAT WE, UH, ARE SEEING TO DEVELOP.
WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW ALL THE GUIDELINES OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF COLORS, IN TERMS OF HEIGHTS AND ALL.
AND THIS, UM, IT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT, UH, WE CAN BUILD IN THIS LOT PROVIDED THE ZONE CHANGE MOVES FORWARD.
THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER INDICATIVE IMAGES.
UM, WE THINK WE'RE, AS, AS WILLIAM SAID, UH, WE UNDERTOOK THIS, UH, PROCESS OF ASKING THE JBSA, UH, BECAUSE OF, OF THE A PC TWO ZONE, UH, FOR THE CHANGE.
THEY OVERALL, UH, THEIR, THEIR TAKE ON THIS IS BECAUSE WE INTEND TO, TO BUILD COMMERCIAL USES OR, OR TO USE THIS LAND FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
UM, THEY THINK THERE'S LESS RISK OF OF HAVING ACCIDENTS OR, UH, HARMING THE POPULATION IF THERE IS A COMMERCIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL PROJECT OVER THERE AS IS.
THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
SO, UM, YEAH, THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO, TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
THIS IS A-J-B-S-A LETTER AND WELL, BASICALLY THAT'S ALL WE WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES, UH, AND TO, UH, ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ALRIGHT, IT IS, UM, SIX 14 AND I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT IS WELCOME TO STEP FORWARD GOING ONCE, TWICE.
IT IS STILL SIX 14 AND UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
MR. WALLACE?
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SO, CORRECT.EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE O IT'S OWNED BY IDS SCHOOLS, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY INTEND TO BUILD A SCHOOL THERE.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST LOOK AT IT AS IT'S JUST ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNER.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT A SCHOOL WOULD BE CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT JBSA RANDOLPH WOULD WANT IN THE A AZ TWO.
IF WE, UH, I OCCASIONALLY RIDE MY BICYCLE DOWN THAT AREA AND AS I GO, UH, CAN WE PUT THE, UH, AERIAL BACK UP? MM-HMM
UH, YEAH, SO, UM, JUST, I I, I, I THINK IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, SO, UM, SOMETIMES I COME OUT THE BACK AND YOU SEE THAT ROADWAY THAT CONNECTS THOSE BUILDINGS WITH MASKY.
SO YOUR PROPERTY, UH, INCORPORATES THAT, THAT THAT EXISTING ROADWAY THAT'S THERE, THAT EXISTS IN THE YES.
THAT WAY IS PART OF, UH, I MEAN IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S, UH, COMMON AREA, RIGHT? SHARED.
BY, YEAH, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJUST.
NO, THAT WAS JUST, I WAS JUST GETTING ORIENTED A LITTLE BETTER, SO THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? GO AHEAD.
IN YOUR, UH, EXCUSE ME, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT THE JBSA PROVIDED A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO TO THE AFFIRMATIVE THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IN IT, DID THEY PLACE ANY SPECIFIC SPECIFICATIONS OF CONSIDERATIONS? SO THEY JUST KIND OF OUTLINE WHAT IS INTENDED IN THAT AREA.
THEY DON'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING THAT HAS A FAR RATIO ABOVE TWO, I BELIEVE IS THAT ANSWER.
UM, WE HAVE THE WHOLE LETTER PROVIDED, I GUESS BY YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LETTER, BUT, OR I CAN ALSO PROVIDE IT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THAT'S JUST THE PORTION OF THE TOP SECTION RIGHT THERE.
AND IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE CONSIDERED, IS THAT BE CONSIDERED OR FOLLOWED OR FOLLOWED? DO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES? UH, I WOULD SAY, UM, THEY PROVIDED, AS WILL SAID, THE GENERAL GUIDANCE, UH, FOR BUILDING.
AND I MEAN THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE FOLLOWED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA BE CONSIDERED, THEY'RE GONNA BE FOLLOWED OVERALL PROVIDED THEY ALSO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES.
ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, UH, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE CAN RECOMMEND TO DENY OR WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION PLEASE.
YEAH, I'M, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 5.
AM I ON? I'M GONNA GIVE THAT ONE TO MS. GOLD
SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLZC 20 25 0 0 5 5.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, AN I VOTE IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
CAN WE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? WE HAVE SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[B. PLZC20250080- Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 20 acres of land from Pre-Development District (PRE), Agricultural District (AD), and Single-Family Residential/ Agricultural District (R-A) to Single-Family Residential District (R-2), generally located approximately 4,800 feet east of the intersection of FM 1518 and Lower Seguin Road, known as 12816 Lower Seguin Rd and 12746 Lower Seguin Road, and more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Numbers 310027, 310026, and 310028, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
FIVE B-P-L-Z-C 20 25 0 0 8 0.HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES OF LAND FROM PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SLASH AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO.
GENERALLY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 4,800 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND LOWER SINE ROAD KNOWN AS 1 2 8 1 6 LOWER SEINEN ROAD
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AND 1 2 7 4 6 LOWER SINE ROAD, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEX COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS 3 1 0 0 2 7 3 1 0 0 2 6 AND 3 1 0 0 2 8.CITY OF SHIRTZ, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.
A PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO R TWO ALONG LOWER SEINEN FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES.
DAISY MARQUEZ PLANNER, HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
IT IS TO THE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND LOWER SEINEN.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT RA AND THEN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT A ED.
IT CONSISTS OF SOME RURAL RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH WE HAVE LOWER SEIN ROAD, WHICH IS OUR RIGHT OF WAY AND IT IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS PART OF SOME OF OUR, UH, RECENT ANNEXATIONS.
IT HAS AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL RESIDENCES TO THE EAST WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AS WELL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO AND IT IS STILL SOME UNDEVELOPED AND AGRICULTURE.
AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE OUR CARMEL RANCH SUBDIVISION.
IT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES.
IT IS THREE UN PLATTERED PARCELS AND IT CONSISTS OF RURAL RESIDENCES.
SO WE SENT OUT 40 PUBLIC NOTICES ON APRIL 21ST AND AS OF TODAY, TODAY WE RECEIVE TWO IN FAVOR AND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE P PAPER PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL AND A NOTICE SIGN WAS PLACED ALONG LOWER SAGA.
AND AGAIN, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 20 ACRES.
THEY'RE PROPOSING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEY ARE PROPOSING R TWO OR FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT DIMENSIONAL AND DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT WAS THERE AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, R TWO IS 70 BY ONE 20 LOTS.
SO ONE OF OUR LARGER LOT SIZES WITH THE MINIMUM 8,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO WHEN STAFF EVALUATE ZONE CHANGES, WE LOOK TO UDC SECTION 2154 D FOR THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
SO ONE, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMP PLAN AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.
SO THIS AREA AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS IS MEANT FOR THINGS LIKE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO SERVE THE RESIDENCES ADJACENT TO IT.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO ZONE CHANGES, WE NEED TO CONSIDER ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION CONFLICTS AMONG LAND USES AND THE UNDUE CONCENTRATION OR DIFFUSION OF POPULATION.
SO THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO R TWO IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN BY PROVIDING A DIFFERENT LOT SIZE TO ADD TO THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THIS AREA ALONG LOWER SEIN AND THE LARGER AREA.
SO TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.
SO IF PART OF PROMOTING, AS PART OF PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRADITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
SO THE PROPOSED R TWO DOES ACT AS A TRANSITION TO THE SMALLER RESIDENTIAL LOT DEVELOPMENTS INTO THE LARGE AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES TO THE REAR.
AND THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE WITH EXISTING USES IN THE MEDIA AREA.
SO THERE ARE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS KIND OF JUST TO SHOW YOU, UM, JUST ALONG LOWER SINE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
WE HAVE RHINE VALLEY, SADDLEBROOK RANCH, PDD, WE HAVE CARMEL RANCH, PDD, AND THEN THAT MONTEREY MEADOWS THAT HAS STRAIGHT ZONING ALONG LOWER SINE.
SO THE RHINE VALLEY PDD UM, CONSISTS OF 447 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE BUILT OUT ONES.
82.7% OF THOSE LOTS ARE 50 FEET OR 45 FEET WIDE.
SO AGAIN, THOSE SMALLER LOTS, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE LARGER THAN THAT.
AND THEN OUR SADDLEBROOK RANCH, PDD, UM, CONSISTS OF 633 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, 79 PER 79.6% OF THOSE ARE 60 FEET WIDE OR LESS AS YOU CAN SEE BY THEIR DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FROM THEIR PDD.
AND AGAIN, UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT WOULD BE LARGER THAN THAT.
CARMEL RANCH, PDD 84% OF THOSE LOTS ARE 60 FEET OR 55 FEET WIDE AND 131 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO AGAIN, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED ADJACENT TO THEM IS LARGER THAN, UM, 84% OF THE LOTS THAT THAT PDD CONTAINS.
AND THEN MONTEREY MEADOWS IS STRAIGHT ZONING.
THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY HAVE R TWO AND R SIX,
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SO THE R TWO IS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TONIGHT.AND UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT IS LARGER THAN THE 60 BY ONE 20, LOTS OF R SIX IN MONTEREY MEADOWS.
AND THEN JUST WITHIN THE LARGER AREA WE DO HAVE KRUGER MARTIN ALONG, UH, WE ROAD AND THAT'S R TWO AND R SIX AS WELL.
UM, IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE R TWO THAT ALREADY EXISTS ALONG REAR ROAD AND IT IS LARGER THAN THE R SIX, UM, THAT IS WITHIN THAT TRACT.
SO AGAIN, JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU IT, IT'S PROVIDING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITHIN THE LARGER AREA.
IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THAT, BUT ALSO IMMEDIATE IMMEDIATELY ALONG LOWER SINE.
IT PROVIDES A LARGER LOT THAN WHAT A LOT OF THESE PDDS ARE PROVIDING.
SO FOR WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DETERMINED, RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE NOT PROVIDED US ANY ADDITIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE PROPOSAL ON CHANGE YET.
UM, S-E-U-C-I-D WAS NOTIFIED AND WE DID PROVIDE THE UPDATED INFORMATION, INFORMATION, THE FORECASTING AND DEMOGRAPHIC REPORTS AND FIRE EMS AND POLICE WERE NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND NO OBJECTIONS WERE PROVIDED FOR IT.
AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PLZC 20 25 0 0 8 0 DUE TO THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND EXISTING USES.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING.
UH, NOT REALLY A BUT GENERALLY PAUL LANDA WITH MTR ENGINEERS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES A COMMUNITY THAT COMPLIMENTS THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY DEVELOPED.
AGAIN, 70 FOOT, UH, MINIMUM SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, PRETTY SMALL COMPARED TO THE RELATIVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
UM, SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT? WELCOME TO STEP FORWARD, NOBODY.
IT IS STILL 6 27 AND PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK ONE JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY.
UH, HOW MANY LOTS YOU THINK YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET ON THIS? 20 ACRES? JUST MAYBE 50.
HAVE THE APPLICANT AS WELL? YES SIR.
HEY, UM, THE, THE, I'M SORRY DAISY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? I THINK MY, MY QUESTION WAS ARE Y'ALL PLANNING TO CONNECT TO THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME, SOME, UH, YEAH, THERE'S A RIGHT OF WAY CONNECTION WITH THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION TO THE LEFT.
ARE Y'ALL PLANNING ON UTILIZING THAT OR IS IT THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A DOUBLE ACCESS OR A CONNECTION TO CARMEL RANCH AND THEN WE PLAN A NORTHEAST CONNECTION THAT WILL CROSS DIRECTLY WITH SADDLEBROOK RANCH.
ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, DENIAL, OR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 2 5 0 0 8 0 SECOND.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLZC 20 25 0 0 8 0.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
CAN WE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? SEVEN AYES NOT OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
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ITEM SEVEN[C. PLZC20250043 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 62 acres of land from Planned Development District (PDD) and Pre-Development District (PRE) to Single-Family Residential District (R-2), generally located approximately 3,800 feet east of the intersection of FM 1518 and Trainer Hale Road, known as Bexar County Property Identification number 310054 ,a portion of 310053 and a portion of 310061, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
C-E-L-Z-C 2 25 0 0 4 3 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 62 ACRES OF LAND FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO GENERALLY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3,800 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND TRAINER HILL ROAD, KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 1 0 0 5 4.A PORTION OF 3 1 0 0 5 3 AND A PORTION OF 3 1 0 0 6 1.
CITY OF SHEZ, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, DAISY, GOOD EVENING.
A PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO R TWO ALONG TRAINER HALE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 62 ACRES.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
IT IS LOCATED ALONG TRAINER HILL ROAD.
IT'S KIND OF SITUATED BETWEEN WEIR ROAD AND FM 1518.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PDD, SO IT WAS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL STERLING GROVE, UH, PDD DEVELOPMENT AND MDP AND IT IS ALSO ZONED PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THIS LARGER CHUNK UP HERE AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND UNPLED TO THE NORTH.
WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, IT'S UNDEVELOPED, IT'S SOME SORT OF AGRICULTURE AND RESIDENTIAL.
CLOSER TO REAR ROAD TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R ONE, PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, UM, KIND OF WITH THE NATURE OF THIS AREA, IT'S MORE UNDEVELOPED AGRICULTURE AND RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO ALL AROUND THIS AREA.
AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE STERLING GROVE PDD AND PRE-DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
SO WE SENT OUT 13 NOTICES ON APRIL 21ST.
[A. PLPP20250053 Waiver - Consider and act upon a request for a waiver in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the preliminary plat of the Burnette Subdivision, approximately 1.821 acres of land, located at 12396 Schaeffer Road, Schertz, Texas, 78108, more specifically known as Bexar County Parcel Identification Number 308385. ]
SCHAEFER ROAD CHURCH, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 8 MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 0 8 3 8 5.WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION PLPP 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 3 WAIVER.
A WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE BURNETT SUBDIVISION.
SO YOU CAN SEE, OH YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS AERIAL VIEW.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS AERIAL VIEW, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE LOCATED, IF THIS IS LOOKING FAMILIAR TO YOU OR THIS IS ALREADY SOUNDING FAMILIAR TO YOU, THIS PROPERTY CAME IN LAST YEAR FOR A REZONE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PRE TO RA.
UH, SO THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY HERE AT THIS TIME.
THIS APPLICANT IS NOW COMING IN TO REQUEST A WAIVER AS THERE IS AN ONSITE SEWER FACILITY CURRENTLY EXISTING AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE UDC.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, ONCE AGAIN JUST THIS PROPERTY LOCATED HERE, IT'S ZONE IS RA UH, THE, IT IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 4,800 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF SCHAEFER ROAD AND FM 1518.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 4,000 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION AND IT ALREADY HAS AN APPROVED ONSITE SEPTIC FACILITY.
AND SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS A WAIVER REQUEST FOR UH, NOT CONNECTING AND NOT EXTENDING UTILITIES TO THE PROPERTY AS THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING SEWER FACILITY ON SITE.
AND SO ALL LOTS WITHIN A SUBDIVISION ARE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS AND EXTEND TO WASTEWATER LINES PER OUR UDC.
AND SO PER THIS WAIVER REQUEST BY THE UDC, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO COME TO THE COMMISSION AND REQUEST THIS WAIVER TO NOT EXTEND AND CONNECT TO THE FACILITIES.
SO STAFF ANALYSIS, THIS, UH, APPLICATION WAS SENT TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR REVIEW AND THEY SUPPORT APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST AS THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION IS 4,000 FEET AWAY AND THE SITE IS ALREADY SERVICED BY OSSF.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE APPLICANT, THAT THE APPLICANT DOES NOT INTEND TO FURTHER DEVELOP WHAT IS EXISTING ONSITE.
THE SITE IS ALREADY SERVED BY AN ONSITE SEPTIC FACILITY AND THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION IS OVER 4,000 FEET AWAY.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST AS PRESENTED AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. WALLACE, ARE WE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE WAIVER AND THE PLAT AT THE SAME TIME OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE AS SEPARATE ITEMS? OKAY.
THE WAY IT'S SET UP, WE DO 'EM ONE AT A TIME.
I CAN FLY THROUGH THE NEXT ONE IF YOU'D LIKE THAT.
ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, WE, THIS IS FOR OUR ACTION.
WE CAN APPROVE OR WE CAN, WE CAN DENY.
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SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? YEAH, I, I'LL RECOMMEND UH, APPROVAL ON THE WAIVER FOR PRELIMINARY PLOT 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 3 SECOND.ALRIGHT, I HAVE A UM, MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE PLPP 2 25 0 0 5 3 WAIVER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
YOU PUBLISH THAT, PLEASE HAVE SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[B. PLPP20250053 - Consider and act upon a request for approval of a preliminary plat of the Burnette Subdivision, approximately 1.89 acres of land located at 12396 Schaeffer Road, Schertz, Texas, 78108, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 308385. ]
20 25 0 0 5 3.CONSIDER AN ACT UPON REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE BURNETT SUBDIVISION, APPROXIMATELY 1.89 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 1 2 3 9 6 SCHAEFER ROAD, SHORTZ, TEXAS 7 8 1 0 8, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 0 8 3 8 5.
A PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE BURNETT SUBDIVISION.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE AREA VIEW OF THE SITE AND THIS IS ONCE AGAIN AN AREA VIEW OF THE SITE JUST INDICATING IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE SHIRT SEWER, CCN, THERE'S AN EXISTING HOME ON SITE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4,800 FEET AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF SHAFER ROAD AND THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING ONSITE SEPTIC FACILITY.
THIS IS THE PLAT AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS.
THE PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY THE FIRE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS AND THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS PRESENTED.
SO I'M STILL GETTING USED TO DOING THINGS CERTAIN WAYS.
THE ONLY REASON THIS PLAT IS, IS THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT IS HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED THE PREVIOUS PRECEDING WAIVER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO ORDINARILY, UH, STAFF APPROVES PLATS.
SO I ASSUME SEEING THIS PLAT THAT IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OSSF YOU WOULD'VE APPROVED IT.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? WHO IS THAT OKAY? YES SIR.
I, IIII HEAR THAT A LOT ON COUNSEL.
I ABSOLUTELY P UH, MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON PPP 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 3.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND COMMISSIONER MCMASTER TO APPROVE P LPP 2 0 2 5 0 0 5 3.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[C. PLFP20250091 Waiver - Consider and act upon a request for a waiver in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the final plat of the Monroe Subdivision Block 1 Lot 2, approximately 12.39 acres of land, located approximately 750 feet east of the intersection of Ware-Seguin Road and Boenig Drive, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 619166. ]
C 2 2 5 0 0 9 1 WAIVER.CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER IN RELATION TO ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE FINAL PLAT OF THE MONROE SUBDIVISION BLOCK.
ONE LOT TWO APPROXIMATELY 12.39 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 750 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EGINE ROAD AND BAIG DRIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEX COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 1 6 6.
WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION PLFP 2 0 2 5 0 9 1.
A WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE MONROE SUBDIVISION LOT TWO BLOCK ONE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.
IF THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR, THIS IS LOOKING FAMILIAR ALREADY.
THE APPLICANT HAS COME INTO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY TO REQUEST A WAIVER AS THIS LOT SPECIFICALLY IS NOT LOCATED ALONG THE WHERE SEIN FRONTAGE ROAD AND THEY NEEDED THAT WAIVER REQUEST APPROVED SO THAT WAY THEY COULD HAVE THAT CONNECTION ALONG THAT PROPERTY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS COMING IN TODAY TO REQUEST A WAIVER FOR ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES.
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THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE APZ TWO.AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAS ACCESS TO WHERE SEGUIN ROAD VIA 30 FOOT INGRESS AND EGRESS EASEMENT THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER.
AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT LOT TWO BLOCK ONE, UH, LOT ONE BLOCK TWO WILL BE PLATTED AT A LATER DATE.
SO THE WAIVER REQUEST HERE IS FOR ONSITE SEWER FACILITY.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING OR WELL IS INTENDING TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED.
AND OUR UDC REQUIRES THAT ALL LOTS WITHIN A SUBDIVISION ARE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS AND EXTEND WASTEWATER LINES.
THE PROPERTY OR THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER OF OSSF PER OUR UDC.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO COME TO THE COMMISSION TO REQUEST THIS WAIVER FOR APPROVAL.
SO OUR STAFF ANALYSIS ENGINEERING HAD A REVIEW ON THIS WAIVER REQUEST AND THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAIVER AS THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION IS APPROXIMATELY 2000 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY AND IT IS NOT CONNECTED TO SERVICES AT THIS TIME AND THEY'RE ONLY INTENDING TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT THE MOMENT.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT ONE HOME, THE NEAREST CONNECTION IS OVER 2000 FEET AWAY AND THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO SEWER SYSTEM ONCE IT IS AVAILABLE IN THE AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST AS PRESENTED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GONNA USE THIS AS A CHANCE TO PULL OUT MY SOAPBOX.
UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK, UH, THE CULPRIT HAS DISAPPEARED.
UM, IT, IT JUST MAKES ME WONDER BECAUSE THE CURRENT SHIRTZ MODEL IS NOT TO EXTEND SEWER SERVICE BUT TO HAVE DEVELOPERS DO THAT.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE MODEL WHERE THAT MODEL KIND OF FALLS ON ITS FACE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF A, UM, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER BUYING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND RUNNING A SEWER LINE, UH, THERE PROBABLY EVER WILL BE ONE TO YOUR PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, ENOUGH SET SAID COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST LIKE TO THROW STONES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
OKAY,
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CAR, UH, COMMISSIONER CARBON HAS MADE A MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GOLD TO APPROVE PLFP 2 25 0 0 9 1 WAIVER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
WOULD YOU PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? WE HAVE SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
[D. PLFP20250091 - Consider and act upon a request for approval of a final plat of the Monroe Subdivision Lot 2 Block 1, approximately 12.39 acres of land located approximately 750 feet east of the intersection of Ware-Seguin Road and Boenig Drive, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 619166. ]
SIX D PL FP 20 25 0 0 9 1 CONSIDERING ACT UPON REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT OF THE MONROE SUBDIVISION LOT TWO BLOCK ONE, APPROXIMATELY 12.39 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 750 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EGINE ROAD AND BONY DRIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 1 6 6 WILLIAM PFP 2 0 2 5 9 1 FINAL OF THE MONROE SUBDIVISION LOT TWO BLOCK ONE.SO ONCE AGAIN WE SEE HERE THE SAME SITE THAT WAS NOW HAS THE APPROVED WAIVER.
WE SEE HERE THAT PROPERTY, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE A PZ TWO.
IT'S ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND HAS ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY WITH AN APPROVED WAIVER OF A 30 FOOT INGRESS, EGRESS EASEMENT THROUGH THE LOT ADJACENT TO IT UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT.
THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO PLAT LOT TWO BLOCK ONE.
THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS.
THE PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY THE ENGINEERING, FIRE AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT AS PRESENTED.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.UM, I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
UM, WHAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING OUT THERE ON THIS PROPERTY? THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY LOT TWO.
AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ZONING, WE DON'T, WE DON'T ASK RANDOLPH ABOUT IT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANYBODY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PLFP 2 2 5 0 9.
ALL COMMISSIONER GOLD HAS MADE A MOTION WITH A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER CARBON? NO, I, YEAH,
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER GOLD DICK WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARBON TO APPROVE PLFP 2 25 0 0 9 1.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? RECORD YOUR VOTE.
CAN YOU PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? ALL WE HAVE SEVEN AYES AND NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA FORGET ABOUT IT.
[D. PLUDC20250090 - Conduct a public hearing, workshop and discussion and possible action to make a recommendation on amendments to Part III of the Schertz Code of Ordinances, Unified Development Code (UDC), to Article 11 - Sign and Advertising Devices, Article 3 Boards, Commissions, and Committees - Section 21.3.3 - Planning and Zoning Commission, Article 7 - Nonconforming Uses, Lots, and Structures, and Article 16 - Definitions. ]
NOW WE'RE GONNA JUMP BACK UP TO ITEM FIVE DA PUBLIC HEARING.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON AMENDMENTS TO PART THREE OF THE CHURCH'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ARTICLE 11, SIGN AND ADVERTISING DEVICES, ARTICLE THREE, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.
SECTION 21.3 0.3, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ARTICLE SEVEN NON-CONFORMING USES LOTS AND STRUCTURES AND ARTICLE 16 DEFINITIONS.
PROMISE YOU THIS WILL BE EXCITING.
SO STAFF IS BRINGING FORWARD THESE AMENDMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL THE WORKSHOPS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN DOING ON TEMPORARY SIGNS LATELY.
UM, PNZ DID SEE THOSE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO, UH, THE TEMPORARY SIGNS ON DECEMBER 4TH, AND THEN IT WENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FIVE ADDITIONAL TIMES AFTER THAT.
SO THEY REALLY HASHED OUT THE TEMPORARY SIGN PIECE.
UH, THE LAST UPDATE TO THE ENTIRE ARTICLE WAS IN 2017, SO STAFF FELT THAT IT WAS TIME TO MAYBE UPDATE THE ARTICLE AND JUST LOOK AT SOME THINGS AND SEE IF WE CAN POLISH UP SOME, UH, ITEMS. SO STAFF'S APPROACH WAS REALLY IN THREE, UM, SEPARATE WAYS.
SO NUMBER ONE WAS WE KIND OF WERE LOOKING AT EDITORIAL CHANGES, UH, MAKE, HELPING KIND OF CLEAN UP THE ARTICLE TO CONVEY INFORMATION BETTER, REORGANIZE THE SECTIONS WHEN WE COULD, REMOVING ANY REDUNDANT OR UNNECESSARY LANGUAGE IF WE COULD.
NUMBER TWO WAS CREATE CONSISTENCY WITH THE UDC AND OTHER POLICIES.
AND NUMBER THREE WAS ACTUALLY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CODE.
SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF CONVEYING INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO WHEN WE HAVE TO, THE LEFT IS OUR CURRENT CODE, YOU SEE ALL THESE KIND OF WORDY PARAGRAPHS AND WHERE WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO, WE CREATED NICE PUNCHY, UH, ITEMIZED LIST HERE.
AND NOT TO GO INTO THE DETAILS, WE'LL GO INTO THAT LATER, BUT YOU'LL SEE WE KIND OF, WE WE SPLIT THAT APART AND CREATED IT NICE, UH, EQUAL NICE, UH, UH, INFORMATION THAT WAS CONVEYED A LITTLE EASIER.
ANOTHER THING WE DID IS REORGANIZING.
SO WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO, WE PROPOSED SOME, COMBINING SOME SECTIONS.
UM, THE PRICE PER GALLON DISPLAY WE MOVED UP TO MADE A LITTLE MORE SENSE.
UH, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY MOVED NON-CONFORMING SIGNS TO OUR ACTUAL NON-CONFORMING SECTION IN THE UDC.
SO ELIMINATING SOME REDUNDANCIES.
ONE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE CURRENT UDC IN ARTICLE 11 HAS A WHOLE SECTION ABOUT LICENSING.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THAT IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO BE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR AND TO HAVE INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IS, YOU CAN SEE THESE,
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I HIGHLIGHTED THESE IN DIFFERENT COLORS, THE SIMILARITIES.SO IN RED, THE LICENSE REQUIRED, YOU'RE STILL ALLOWED TO, THAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
IT, IT REQUIRES IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD SIGNS TO BE REGISTERED, THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT IS ALSO IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AND THE ELECTRIC ELECTRICIAN REGISTRATION IS ALSO IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
SO STAFF ACTUALLY PROPOSED TO REMOVE THIS WHOLE SECTION BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY COVERED ALREADY, AGAIN, WITH THE CONSISTENCY.
UH, ONE COMMON THEME THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT LATELY IS ANYTIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE CITY MANAGER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE, WE PUT THAT IN THERE.
UM, WE UPDATED SOME LANGUAGE TO MATCH, UH, SOME, UH, DEFINITIONS IN ARTICLE 16.
UH, WE ALSO, ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS THERE'S A FEE SECTION IN THE SIGN CODE.
UH, WE CHANGED UP A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THAT WORKS.
THE EXISTING CODE HAS THIS LANGUAGE ABOUT DOUBLING FEES, BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HOW OUR FEE SCHEDULE WORKS FOR THE SIGNS.
SO WE JUST PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE.
SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, FEES, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WORKING WITHOUT A PERMIT, YOUR FEE'S NOT DOUBLED.
IT ACTUALLY JUST SAYS WHAT THE FEE SCHEDULE SAYS.
SO WE'RE CREATING A LITTLE BIT OF CONSISTENCY THERE.
SO HERE'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS ACTUAL, UM, UDC AMENDMENT.
THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ACTUAL SIGN CODE REQUIREMENTS, WE'RE REALLY DOING THIS IN THREE SECTIONS.
WALL SIGNS, FREESTANDING AND TEMPORARY.
SO UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, WHEN WE GET A PERMIT FOR A WALL SIGN, UH, WE BASICALLY LOOK AT OUR, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT AS PER SIGN.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE GIVE A BUSINESS AND ALLOTTED AMOUNT PER FACADE.
AND THE REASON WHY WE DO THAT, I'LL SHOW YOU RIGHT HERE UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE, THE ARROWS THAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS THREE SEPARATE SIGNS.
NOW, WALMART'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, SO THEY HAVE A NON-CONFORMING STATUS, BUT THE WAY OUR CURRENT CODE WOULD READ IT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE ONLY DO IT AS ONE SIGN AT A TIME.
SO YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED ONE SIGN PER WALL, RIGHT? SO THE WAY STAFF'S PROPOSING IT IS SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE 250 SQUARE FOOT OF SIGNAGE AVAILABLE FOR YOUR FACADE.
YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THERE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT.
SO UNDER WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AS LONG AS THEY'RE UNDER THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY'RE ALLOTTED, THEY CAN BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS.
AND REALLY WE ARE, WE PUT THIS IN THERE FOR LIKE THE HEBS.
HEB HAS SIGNS ALL OVER THE FRONT FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF OTHER BIG BOX STORES.
THEY MIGHT POTENTIALLY COME IN.
THAT WAS DONE WITH THE INTENT OF THAT.
BUT IT ALSO RELATES TO THE SMALLER BUSINESSES AS WELL.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CREATE SEVERAL DIFFERENT SIGN COMPONENTS TO THEIR MAIN, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE, THEY CAN DO THAT.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE DID, YOU'LL SEE HOW AREAS WITH LIMITED ACCESS, UNLIMITED ACCESS, AND ALL OTHER STREETS.
SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? WE HAVE TO GO BACK INTO ARTICLE 16 AND WE HAVE TO SHOW 'EM WHAT IT IS.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW IS JUST TO LAY IT OUT FOR WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.
IT'S RELATING TO THE ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION.
SO INTERSTATE AND FARM TO MARKET ROADS, YOU GET X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, ALL OTHER ROADS, YOU GET ONE, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO ANOTHER THING THAT WE DID IS, UH, IN OUR CURRENT CODE SHIRTS PARKWAY IS CONSIDERED THE SAME ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION AS ALL OUR FM ROADS.
WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT OFF OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS 'CAUSE WE STAFF FEELS THAT SHIRTZ PARKWAY IS DEVELOPING, UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN FM 3 0 0 9 OR 1103 OR SOMETHING.
SO, UM, ACTUALLY WE'RE, WE'RE DECREASING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS ON SHIRTZ PARKWAY OR SO SOME OF THE MAXIMUMS, I SHOULD SAY.
ANOTHER THING WE DO WITH WALL SIGNS.
SO YOU'LL SEE HERE IN, UH, IN THE CURRENT CODE WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THIS PROVISION IN THE UDC THAT IF YOU'RE IN A MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, M1, M TWO OR A PDD WITH THAT BASE, THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SIGN AS LONG AS YOU HAVE 300 LINEAR FEET OF, IT'S A A BIT OF A COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UH, PROVISION THERE.
BUT WHAT THE, THE SPIRIT AND ATTEMPT OF THAT PROVISION IS REALLY FOR VERY LARGE BUILDINGS.
SO WE LEFT, UH, THIS PROVISION IN THE CODE OR WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A NEW PROVISION IN THAT BASICALLY SAYS BUILDINGS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET ARE ALLOWED AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT OF SIGNAGE AREA.
SO IF YOU'RE ON, IF YOU HAVE A REALLY LARGE BUILDING ON TRI-COUNTY PARKWAY FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT EXTRA SIGNAGE.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE LARGE WAREHOUSES.
SAME THING WITH THE INTERSTATE OR FARMER MARKET ROADS.
IF YOU HAVE AN EXTREMELY LARGE BUILDING OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, THEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT EXTRA SIGNAGE, SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THE ROOF LINE LIMITATIONS STAFF PUT THAT IN THERE.
WE, UH, BASICALLY WERE ABLE TO STREAMLINE THAT AND PUT IT AS ONE SENTENCE, UH, RATHER THAN ALL THESE OTHER STUFF THAT'S IN THE CURRENT CODE.
UH, AGAIN, THE, WE MADE A REQUIREMENT
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THAT YOU CANNOT, YOUR WALL SIGN CANNOT PROJECT IN YOUR REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK.THE, UH, IF WE LEFT THE PROVISION IN THERE, IF YOUR WALL SIGN'S FACING, IF IT'S WITHIN 150 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
SO WE LEFT THAT IN THERE AS WELL.
AND WE CREATED THIS NEW, UH, UH, REGULATION HERE THAT SAYS BASICALLY IF YOUR PROPERTY IS ON MAIN STREET AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE FACING FM 78, TECHNICALLY YOU'RE ABUTTING A RAILROAD.
SO YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME GRAY AREA AS TO WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ABUTTING.
LIKE CAN, ARE YOU CLASSIFYING AS A RAILROAD OR IS IT? SO WE JUST DECIDED TO CLEAR THAT UP AND SAY, WELL, TREATING IT AS FACING 78, YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE SIGNAGE THAT PEOPLE ON 78 GET.
SO A SPECIAL BA FOR MAIN STREET ESSENTIALLY.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE ADJUSTED TO IS IN THE CURRENT CODE, YOU GET A PRIMARY WALL SIGN AT THE FULL, A HUNDRED PERCENT ALLOWED SQUARE FOOTAGE.
EVERY OTHER SIGNAGE AFTER THAT HAS TO BE 75% OF THAT.
AND WE HAVE THESE SECONDARY SIGNS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE CODE STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT WE GET RID OF THAT AND WE JUST ALLOW EVERYBODY TO DO SIGNS AND KEEP IT EASY.
SO, UM, THE NEXT SECTION, FREESTANDING SIGNS.
SO THIS WILL BE A NEW SECTION IN THE CODE.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR SEPARATE SECTIONS IN THE CODE FOR THESE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, THIS IS CONSIDERED A FREESTANDING GROUND SIGN.
THIS IS CONSIDERED A MONUMENT.
THIS IS A MULTI-TENANT SIGN AND THIS IS CONSIDERED AN ELECTRONIC SIGN.
STAFF LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, WELL, THESE ARE ALL BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
THEY'RE ALL FREESTANDING SIGNS.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO COMBINE ALL THESE THINGS INTO ONE SECTION.
AND SO IN OUR EXISTING CODE, I'LL JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY GO OVER THE BULLET POINTS OF THESE, BUT THE MAX HEIGHT IN YOUR FREESTANDING GROUND SIDE CURRENTLY IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 50 FEET.
YOUR AREA IS 32 TO TWO 50 AND YOU GET ONE PER LOTT FRONTAGE.
OUR MONUMENT SIGNS, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF 5.6 AND OR FIVE FOOT SIX INCHES.
YOUR MAXIMUM AREA IS 50 SQUARE FEET, ONE PER LOT FRONTAGE.
AND THERE ARE SOME MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR MONUMENT SIGNS AS WELL MAX.
AND ON YOUR MULTI-TENANT SIGNS, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED UP TO 20 FEET HIGH AND YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED A MAXIMUM AREA OF 150 SQUARE FEET AND YOU'RE, AGAIN, ONE PER LOTT FRONTAGE.
AND THE ELECTRONIC SIGN MAXIMUM HEIGHT 18 MAXIMUM AREA OF 50 SQUARE FEET, ONE PER LOTT FRONTAGE AS WELL.
SO ALL THESE KIND OF BASIC REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE JUST COMBINED INTO ONE AND WE'RE SAYING THAT YOU GET 15 YOUR, YOUR SETBACKS 15 UH, FEET, WHICH IS NORMAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
YOUR MAXIMUM AREA IS TWO 50 AND YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 50 FOR INTERSTATE AND FARM TO MARKET ROADS.
ALL THE ROADS BEING ONE 50 AND 50.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE KEEPING THE ONE PER LOT FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT.
SO FOR FREESTANDING GROUND SIGNS, REALLY NO DIFFERENCE.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING FOR MONUMENT SIGNS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY GETTING RID OF THAT.
YOU CAN STILL DO A FIVE FOOT SIX INCH MONUMENT SIGN WITH THAT'S ONLY 50 SQUARE FEET, BUT YOU'RE NO LONGER RESTRICTED IN THE MAXIMUM.
THE MULTI-TENANT SIGNS WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE MAKING, ALLOWING APPLICANTS TO GO A LITTLE BIT TALLER AND A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
THAT MADE SENSE TO STAFF AS YOU HAVE A LOT OF TENANTS THAT YOU NEED SPACE FOR.
SO IT SEEMED TO US TO MAKE SENSE TO ALLOW THEM TO GO A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AND SOME ELECT.
SO IN THE CURRENT CODE FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS, YOU ONLY ALLOWED A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, 50 SQUARE FEET PER SIGN FACE.
SO YOU ONLY GET TWO SIGN FACES, 150 SQUARE FEET EACH.
WE MADE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND BY JUST PUTTING BULLET POINTS IN THERE, BUT WE KEPT THAT.
BUT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS BEING, YOU KNOW, THE SUNSET AND SUN, UH, SUN SUNRISE AND SUNSET REQUIREMENTS AND YOU CAN'T HAVE LIKE REALLY FAST COPY GOING TO DISTRACT DRIVERS.
WE KEPT THAT IN THERE AS WELL.
SO FOR MULTI DEVELOPMENT, MULTI-TENANT SIGNS, AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, WE, WE THOUGHT IT MADE A LITTLE MORE SENSE TO GO ALLOW THEM TO DO BIGGER, UH, A LITTLE TALLER IF YOU WILL.
WE ADDED A PROVISION THAT SAID, UH, NO TENANT SHALL HAVE MORE THAN 50% OF THE ALLOWABLE AREA.
THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE EFFECTIVELY CALLING OUR ANCHOR TENANT, UH, RESTRICTIONS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A WALMART OR, OR SOME OTHER BIG BOX STORE, THEY CAN'T TAKE UP MORE THAN 50% OF THE SIGN THAT WAY IT LEAVES, IT HAS, IT REQUIRES THEM TO LEAVE SPACE FOR THEIR OTHER TENANTS IF THERE ARE OTHER TENANTS.
AND SO IN THE CURRENT CODE, IT JUST SAYS THE DEVELOPER SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING THE ADEQUACY AND SIZE NECESSARY TO MEET, UH, THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO IT BASICALLY GIVES IT TO THE DEVELOPER IN THE CURRENT CODE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING LET'S JUST MAKE A HARD AND FAST RULE.
SAY NOBODY GETS MORE THAN 50% OF THAT SIGN.
I'LL JUST KIND OF BREEZE OVER THIS 'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY, THIS HAS BEEN HASHED OUT
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A BUNCH IN CITY COUNCIL.UM, REALLY THE BIG, THE BULLET ITEMS ON THIS ONE IS BALLOON INFLATABLE SIGNS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
THERE'S A 14 DAY, UH, RESTRICTION ON FEATHER FLAGS.
UH, THERE IS ALSO A REOCCURRING EVENT PERMIT, UH, SO YOU CAN GET, UH, UP TO 15 TIMES A YEAR A RE THIS IS MEANT FOR LIKE THE, THE CHURCH EVENTS THAT HAPPEN EVERY SO OFTEN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN STAFF ADDED A COUPLE ADDITIONAL SIGNS.
SO DEVELOPMENT SIGNS AND REAL ESTATE SIGNS HAD THEIR OWN SECTION IN THE CURRENT ARTICLE 11 STAFF FELT THAT EFFECTIVELY THESE ARE TEMPORARY SIGNS.
SO WE JUST PUT THOSE IN HERE, WE COMBINE THEM, IF YOU WILL.
THE, UH, THE REGULATIONS ARE STILL THE SAME.
SO IF YOUR REAL ESTATE SIGN, IT CAN'T BE, UM, TALLER THAN SIX FEET, MORE THAN 32 SQUARE FEET THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE.
WE JUST KEPT IT, WE JUST DECIDED TO PUT IT RIGHT HERE.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS A NEW SECTION FOR WAIVERS.
UH, RIGHT NOW WHEN THERE ARE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES OR SOME, AN APPLICANT FEELS LIKE THEY NEED A BIGGER SIGN FOR SOME REASON, UH, THERE IS NO AVENUE FOR US TO REALLY TREAT THAT.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY, THEY APPLY FOR A VARIANCE.
SO THEY JUST KEEP APPLYING FOR VARIANCES AND IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A VARIANCE.
SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN, BUT IT HAPPENS ENOUGH FOR US TO KIND OF ADDRESS IT.
SO STAFF'S PROPOSAL FOR THAT IS TO CREATE A WAIVER PROCESS SIMILAR TO, LIKE YOU GUYS SAW TONIGHT FOR THE PLATTING STAFF IS PROPOSING TO GIVE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WAIVER AUTHORITY.
SO IF SOMEBODY FEELS LIKE THEY NEED A BIGGER TALLER SIGN FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE GONNA BRING THAT WAIVER BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN DECIDE IF THEY DO OR NOT CAN HEAR THEIR CASE IF YOU WILL.
UM, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT, IT GIVES YOU TOTAL DISCRETION.
SO THAT IS A BASICALLY JUST A, A NEW SECTION FOR STAFF TO HELP PROCESS THOSE RATHER THAN ASSEMBLING THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND DOING VARIANCES.
SO, SO THAT'S REALLY IT FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE CHANGES.
WHEN STAFF IS LOOKING AT UDC UH, AMENDMENTS, WE LOOK AT 21 4 7 D FOR THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
SO WHETHER, NUMBER ONE, WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.
SO THE CITY IS STRIVING TO MAKE OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE MORE LOGICAL, MORE EASY TO UNDERSTAND, AND MORE CONSISTENT.
AND THIS HELPS US WITH ENFORCING IT AND ADMINISTERING IT.
AND ARTICLE 11 IS MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
NOW WE FEEL LIKE THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS MAKES ARTICLE 11 A LITTLE MORE USER-FRIENDLY FOR RESIDENTS, APPLICANTS AND CITY STAFF, THUS PROMOTING HEALTH SAFETY, GENERAL WELFARE.
NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OBJECTIVE AND POLICY OF THE UC UDC AND THE CITY.
SO THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND DESIRES OF THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE SIGN CODE WORKSHOPS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
ALSO IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I WILL MENTION THAT ONE OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVE IS FOR A THRIVING ECONOMY BY SUPPORTING BUSINESS RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.
WE FEEL LIKE ALLOWING FOR EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND I'M A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.
SIGN CODE HELPS OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS CORRECTS AN ERROR, MEETS THE CHALLENGE OF CHANGING CONDITION OR IS IN RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAW.
SO THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN RESPONSE TO ISSUES THAT RESIDENTS AND APPLICANTS HAVE HAD WITH ARTICLE 11.
SO AND SO THIS IS STAFF EFFORTS TO MAKE IT SIMPLER AND EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND CERTAIN SECTIONS DO REFLECT CHANGING CONDITIONS SUCH AS THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THERE WHERE WE'RE, UM, TRYING TO PROMOTE PUBLIC ART WITH MURALS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OR THE CHANGE IN, UH, CLASSIFICATION SEARCH PARKWAY.
AND NUMBER FOUR, OTHER FACTORS WHICH ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO STAFF HAS ENSURED ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ALSO BEEN ASSISTING US TO ENSURE STATE LAW COMPLIANCE.
AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL HELP PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE EFFORT OF THE CITY.
IT ALIGNS WITH CITY POLICIES AND IT HELPS MEET THE CHALLENGE OF CHANGING CONDITIONS.
STAFF IS THEREFORE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL P-L-U-D-C 20 25 0 0 9 0.
OKAY, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS, UH, SEVEN 14 OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY'S LEFT
SO MY SPIEL, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT? MAY APPROACH? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S, UH, SEVEN 15 AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
UM, EVERYTHING YOU PRESENTED, I GENERALLY AGREED WITH.
THE ONE THING THAT I, I FELT LIKE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY CONCERNING IS THE INCLUSION OF THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT ON THE FM ROADS.
UM, I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE, LUMPING IT IN AND EVERYTHING ELSE
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I WAS, IS IT JUST FOR CONSISTENCY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE INCLUDING THE FMS WITH IT? UM, JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE CONSIDERING 3 0 0 9 IN 78, UM, AND EVEN, I MEAN EVEN KIND OF TO 1103, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS AS YOU WOULD ALONG THE INTERSTATE.UH, YEAH, I THINK STAFF LOOK AT THAT AND JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT'S DEVELOPING IT SEEMS TO BE THESE CORRIDORS ARE, YOU KNOW, BECOMING COMMERCIAL HOTBEDS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, 50 FEET DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY'S GONNA COME IN WITH 50 FEET SIGNS.
YEAH, THERE ARE COSTS CONSIDERATIONS ON THE PRIVATE END, BUT STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
IF PLAYING IN ZONING COMMISSION IS NOT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT WITH.
WILL WE DO IT THROUGH A MOTION? YEAH.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE REAL QUICK? I'M SORRY.
ANYBODY ELSE? NO, I'M JUST QUESTIONING, WHAT IS IT EXACTLY? ARE YOU SAYING NOT TO HAVE THAT THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT? YEAH.
I, I THINK MY, MY BIG POINT WOULD BE, AND I I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE 3 0 0 9 AND 78, I MEAN, THEY ARE, ARE NOT, YEAH.
78 ARE, ARE MORE COMMERCIALIZED.
IT JUST SEEMS INAPPROPRIATE TO HAVE SIGNS THE SAME HEIGHT POTENTIALLY AS THE INTERSTATE.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A, IT'S A MAXIMUM AND NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA HIT IT.
UM, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE YOU WOULD HAVE LIKE A LOLLIPOP SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF 3 0 0 9, THE SAME HEIGHT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ALONG THE INTERSTATE.
UM, I, IT JUST SEEMS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR, TO LUMP 'EM ALL IN AS ONE.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING I DISAGREED WITH WAS THAT INCLUSION.
SOMEONE CAN NEVER DO IT, BUT IT'S THE ONE TIME THAT WE ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN THAT YOU'RE THEN STUCK WITH IT, ESSENTIALLY.
I THINK THERE'S TWO THAT I KNOW OF RIGHT NOW.
THE DOUBLE AA OR AA PLUMBING, IT'S AT ON MAIN STREET WHERE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS.
COMING FROM UNDERNEATH AVIATION AND THEN GOING UP.
WHEN YOU COME FROM PAT BOOKER DOWN AVIATION AND YOU COME UP, THERE'S THAT HUGE BILLBOARD UP.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE MAY BE S BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE SCARCE AND IT DOESN'T LOOK, TO ME, IT DOESN'T LOOK ODD.
I NOTICE ONE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS A REAL ESTATE AGENT, BUT IT'S CLOSER TO, UH, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1103 ACTUALLY.
SO YOU SEE THEM A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN BETWEEN SLO AND MARIAN.
I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THEY WOULD BE POPPING UP A LOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE SHIRTS PROPER ALONG 78, BUT THEY DON'T LOOK.
YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT'S, I ALWAYS THINK BACK ABOUT THE ONE IN SAN MARCO ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT'S LIKE GIANT AND EXISTS AND IS GONNA ESSENTIALLY EXIST FOREVER.
UM, AND I KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S ALONG THE HIGHWAY IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK IT, IT'S JUST THE CONSIDERATION OF, THAT'S MY ONE THING, BUT IF I'M THE ONE NAYSAYER
I JUST THINK THEY'RE VERY, VERY RARE.
COULD JUDY, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO ADVERTISE ON THOSE TWO.
AND I, I, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST I WOULD HATE FOR IT TO BE THE, THE ONE THAT GOES UP BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU'RE ALLOW, AS IT STANDS NOW, COULD THEY DO IT AS THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN AS THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN FM 78 AND LIKE 3 0 9, IT WOULD BE A HUNDRED AND OH, I'M SORRY, LEMME GO BACK.
SO THEY COULD DO 40 FEET RIGHT NOW.
DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
BUT IF, IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO FURTHER DELINEATE BETWEEN INTERSTATES AND FARM TO MARKET ROADS, THEN THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION WE COULD TAKE FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
SO WE JUST THOUGHT WHY NOT JUST KEEP IT EASY AND DO IT NEXT.
I DON'T, I DON'T HATE YOUR IDEA.
I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS THE, THE 40 THAT EXISTS.
BUT, AND THEN JUDY, WERE YOU FINISHED? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T THINK SO.
WHAT IS, WELL, LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION.
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IS IT ABOUT 30 FEET? 20 OR 30? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TIME OUT HERE.WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BILLBOARDS.
WELL, ITS ARE DIFFERENT TECHNICALLY THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THIS IS MORE LIKE, THINK OF LIKE THE MURDOCH SIGN OR THE, OR I'LL GO BACK.
MURDOCH, LIKE THINK OF LIKE ONE OF THESE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M OH, I SEE.
SEE WHEN I SAY MM-HMM
YEAH, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED.
I'M THINKING, EXPLAINING HER QUESTION.
I'M THINKING BILLBOARDS, SO, YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE? ROGER, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DELINEATION BETWEEN AN INTERSTATE THOROUGH FAIR.
I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST, EVERYBODY KNOWS A BUCKY SIGN FROM FIVE MILES AWAY.
I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A, YOU KNOW, 1103 OR 78.
UM, AND, AND EVEN IF WE NEVER GET TO IT, SO WHAT, LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT 40.
THAT WAY THERE IS A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN AN INTERSTATE AND OUR ROADS AROUND HERE IN LOCAL SHIRTS.
THE, UH, SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE, SAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TALL THAT SAS SIGN IS? UH, I DON'T, BUT THE MURDOCH SIGN WAS, UH, NO, THAT WAS TOO LONG AGO.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S SIMILAR TO THE MURDOCH SIGN.
I I WANNA SAY THAT WAS CLOSE TO 40 OR 50 FEET.
CLOSE TO WHAT? 40 OR 50 FEET? WHERE IS THAT? IT'S ON, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A SHOES ACTUALLY.
UM, I HAVE NEVER BEEN A BIG FAN OF, UM, TALL SCIENCE LIKE SAS AND WALMART AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN WALMART WAS BEING BUILT, UM, I WAS, I WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION.
I WAS STILL A, A, A CITY EMPLOYEE.
UH, AND WALMART WAS DOING THE OLD, WELL, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T LET ME DO THAT, I'M GONNA TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU FOLKS, GO DRIVE AROUND.
UM, WHERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE? GEORGETOWN ROUND ROCK.
UH, GO DOWN AND DRIVE HIGHWAY SIX IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
WALMART HAS A FOUR FOOT PEDESTAL SIGN.
AND GUESS WHAT? WALMART IS STILL THERE.
UH, BUT I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND, AND COMMISSIONER CARBON.
YOU KNOW, THE INTERSTATE HAS SOME, UM, I GUESS I CAN SAY UNIQUE REQUIREMENTS.
YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC'S MOVING AT 70 MILES AN HOUR IN A LOT OF PLACES.
THE, THE ROADWAY IS, UM, IS DEPRESSED BELOW GROUND LEVEL.
UM, AND, AND SO IN ORDER FOR THE SIGNS TO BE SEEN, THEY NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT SITUATION WITH 3 0 9, 15, 18, 11 0 3 OR ANY OF THE OTHER STREETS.
UH, I THINK 40 FEET IS TOO HIGH.
UH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM EVEN SMALLER, UH, EVERYWHERE EXCEPT THE INTERSTATE.
UM, BUT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, SOMEWHERE YOU GO TO, UH, ALL OTHERS IS A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? FALSE SIGN.
UH, I, I REALLY HAVE NO CONCEPT OF OF HOW THAT RELATES TO SIGNS.
AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT ENOUGH? BECAUSE YOU GO FROM TWO 50 TO A HUNDRED SQUARE IS A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET ENOUGH? IT IS MORE THAN THEY CURRENTLY GET.
SO ALL THEIR STREETS CURRENTLY GET 80 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY UPPING IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND THEN WHERE, WHERE YOU SEE, UH, THIS IS, YOU CAN LEAVE IT HERE.
SO, UM, ALL OTHERS WOULD GET A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF MAX AREA, THREE PER BUILDING OR TENANT.
IS THAT 100 SQUARE FEET DIVIDED BETWEEN THOSE THREE SIGNS OR IS THAT THREE SIGNS OF A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET? SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IT NOW IS YOU HAVE PER FACADE, YOU GET A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE.
NOW IF YOU'RE ON A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING AND ALL YOU HAVE IS A FRONT AND A REAR, YOU COULD DO
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TWO.IF YOU'RE ON THE END CAP OF THAT MULTI-TENANT BUILDING, YOU CAN DO THREE.
'CAUSE YOU GET, YOU KNOW, THREE SITES.
AND THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING.
SO IF YOU'RE A SINGLE TENANT BUILDING, THEN YOU CAN DO THREE PER BUILDING.
AND THAT'S HOW OUR CURRENT CODE IS.
SO AS A SINGLE TENANT, YOU CAN DO THREE RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN AS A MULTI, AS A MULTI MULTI-TENANT, LIKE A STRIP CENTER OR SOMETHING, TECHNICALLY YOU CAN ONLY DO TWO.
AND STAFF SAID EFFECTIVELY, EVEN IF WE ALLOWED FOR THREE PER TENANT, WE'RE BASICALLY ALLOWING THE END CAP TENANT TO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL 'CAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THERE.
ANOTHER ONE'S YOU CAN PUT ANOTHER WALL WHEN THERE'S NOT ANOTHER WALL THERE.
YOU, YOU MAY HAVE A ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT I MISSED IT.
SO WELL LET, LET ME REPEAT MY QUESTION REAL QUICK.
SO LOOKING AT THIS CHART RIGHT HERE, ALL OTHERS WOULD BE ALLOWED A MAX AREA PER FACADE.
UHHUH OF 100 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT MAX.
I'M, I'M STARTING TO SEE IT NOW.
SO THEY COULD ONLY, THEY COULD ONLY DO THAT ON THREE SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
SO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FRONT SIDE COULD HAVE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
YOUR THIS SIDE CAN HAVE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND SLIDE 76, 21 POINT 11 POINT 10.
WHAT I WAS SEEING HERE, FREESTANDING SIGNS ALL OTHERS, FOR SOME REASON I WROTE DOWN NOT CONSISTENT.
SO BACK UP TO, TO JUST THE FREESTANDING SIGNS.
THIS ONE, OR WELL MAYBE GO FORWARD ONE.
WHAT? WE'LL GO BACK, GO GOING UP TO 76.
SO THIS, THIS IS PARTICULARLY, UM, MULTI-TENANT SIGNS, CORRECT? OR JUST THIS IS FREESTANDING.
SO YEAH, MULTI-TENANT IS GOING AWAY.
THEY'RE ALL CALLED FREESTANDING.
AND HERE YOU GET A HUNDRED AND ALL OTHERS GET 150 SQUARE FEET.
BUT IF I, I GUESS THE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IS IF YOU'RE PUTTING THE SIGN ON THE BUILDING.
AND I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING I I WOULD TAKE EXCEPTION WITH IS THE, IS IS MAIN STREET.
UM, THEY DON'T FACE THE RAILROAD.
THEY, THEY FRONT MAIN STREET AND I SEE NO REASON TO ALLOW THEM, UM, TO PUT UP A, A, UM, A 50 FOOT SIGN JUST BECAUSE THEY BACK UP TO THE RAILROAD.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SIGNAGE ON THE BACK, PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT OUR COFFEE SHOP EXISTED.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, UM, MAYBE I COULD, I'M SURPRISED.
HAVE YOU RUN THIS PAST THE MAIN STREET COMMITTEE OR THEY OKAY.
WITH THIS KIND OF THING? MAYBE I COULD CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.
SO FOR YOUR GENERAL, SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WANT A WALL SIGN ON MAIN STREET, YOU'RE CONSIDERED ALL OTHERS FOR THE SIDE FACING MAIN STREET.
SO YOU ONLY GET 100 SQUARE FEET.
BUT IF YOU'RE FACING FM 78 ACROSS THE RAILROAD, WE'RE SAYING IN THIS PROVISION HERE THAT YOU CAN HAVE A SIGN OF 250 SQUARE FEET, BUT ONLY ON THE ONE FACING 78.
SO IT'S NOT A FREE STANDING SIGN, IT'S A WALL SIGN.
I'M SORRY, I, I MISUNDERSTOOD.
AND THAT 150 SQUARE FEET WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE SIDE FACING THE RAILROAD.
SEE, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA HIT ME UP ALONGSIDE THE HEAD.
YOU KNOW, I JUST, I APOLOGIZE.
I REALLY JUST DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO, UM, ANYBODY ELSE? OH, YOU'RE BLINKING.
WELL SEE, NOBODY EVER USES THAT.
THANKS FOR EXPLAINING MAIN STREET.
UH, WHAT HAPPENED TO RIGHT OF ENTRY THAT, THAT DISAPPEARED? IS THAT COVERED SOMEPLACE ELSE, RIGHT.
OF ENTRY? AND WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SECTION IN FRONT OF YOU? YOU CAN 21 11 3 ADMINISTRATION.
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ORDINANCES.AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE RAN BY LEGAL TOO, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW US RIGHT.
OF ENTRY FOR SO IT'S SOMEPLACE.
UH, YEAH, NOT THAT I NEED IT, GOD FORBID.
UH, DID WE, DID WE ASK FOR, OR DID WE RECEIVE ANY INPUT FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES? ANY CRITICISM OR ANYTHING? WE DID SEND THIS TO THE CHAMBER.
UH, THEY HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT FEATHER FLAGS, BUT SEEING AS HOW THAT SECTION WAS REALLY HASHED OUT WITH MM-HMM
CITY COUNCIL, WE DECIDED NOT TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS.
BUT THAT WAS THEIR ONLY COMMENTS.
SO WE, SO WE DID GET INPUT FROM, FROM THE CHAMBER.
UH, AND THEN THE, THE, UH, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WALMART.
SO UN SUPPOSE WE ADOPT ALL THE, ALL YOUR RED LINES AS YOU HAVE WRITTEN THEM.
WOULD WALMART BE THE SAME IF THEY BUILT TOMORROW AS THEY ARE NOW? UH, NO.
SO THE WAY THAT WALMART CURRENTLY IS, I THINK IT, IT WAS BUILT LONG BEFORE THIS SIGN CODE.
AND THEY RECEIVED A VARIANCE AS WELL BECAUSE OF THAT.
BUT THE, IF FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD CONSIDER THESE THREE SIGNS, SO THEY WOULDN'T TECHNICALLY BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
IS ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE WALL SIGNS OR SOMETHING ELSE? WELL, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE.
ANOTHER ONE FURTHER TO THE LEFT OR TWO MORE TO THE LEFT AND CENTER.
AND I, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? IT, IT'S NOT UNATTRACTIVE.
IT'S NOT IT OVERLY STAFF BOTHERING ME.
IT, IT, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I LIKE IT AT WALMART 'CAUSE I KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO.
PERSONALLY, STAFF FELT THE SAME WAY.
UH, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE LIKE WALMART COULD DO THIS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO LET THIS BE OKAY.
'CAUSE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THREE SIGNS OR ONE SIGN.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
SO HOW MANY CAN THEY HAVE ON THEIR FRONT FACADE? WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT YOU GET 250 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE ON YOUR FACADE IF YOU WANT TO, AS LONG AS WHAT IS ADDED UP HERE DOES NOT EXCEED THAT, THEN YOU'RE OKAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD THIS BE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? YEAH, I, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT WALMART IN THIS INSTANCE.
UH, EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE ON THE FRONT OF WALMART CURRENTLY, I KNOW THIS IS ONLY A PORTION OF IT MM-HMM
BUT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE IS 225 SQUARE FEET.
SO IF THEY BUILT THIS TODAY, THEY COULD HAVE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE FRONT.
AND THEY COULD ALSO HAVE IT ON THREE SIDES OR FOUR.
SO THEY CAN THREE TECHNICALLY DO IT ON THREE
UM, AND I, I, I DON'T OWN A BUSINESS, SO I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW CRITICAL IT IS TO HAVE A SIGN, I GUESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THEY NEED ACCORDING TO THEIR BUSINESS PLAN.
BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WITH THE ADVENT OF ALMOST EVERYBODY HAVING A GPS, THAT YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE THE BUSINESS IS.
AND SO THE NEED FOR GIGANTIC, ENORMOUS SIGNS I THINK IS KIND OF GOING AWAY.
AND FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD LOWER THE EXPENSE OF HAVING A BUSINESS IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD SUCH A, A HUGE SIGN.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ENTERED INTO YOUR, UH, COMPUTATIONS OR EDITING WHAT WE HAVE NOW, BUT IT SEEMS THAT MOST EVERYBODY HAS A GPS AND THEY CAN FIND WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.
WHAT DO WE NEED A BIG SIGN FOR? SO, I MEAN, I COULD, THAT'S KIND OF RHETORICAL, BUT SURE.
BUT AT THE SAME, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IT, IT COULD BE FOR THOSE THAT ARE JUST PASSING BY.
THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO GO THERE UNTIL THEY SEE THE SIGN.
IT'S LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THERE.
LET ME PULL ACROSS TRAFFIC AND DRIVE IN THERE.
LIKE BRAND RECOGNITION OR JUST KNOWING, OH, THERE'S A CANDY STORE OR WHATEVER.
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A GPS, BUT YOU WANNA GO TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, YOU NEED THE ADDRESS TO GET THERE.
MY GPS NEVER LANDS ME DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF WHERE I'M GOING.
SEE, I CAN, NO, MINE DOESN'T WORK, HONEY.
[01:25:02]
I'M JUST IN AN ARGUMENTATIVE MODE.SEE, I'D ARGUE THAT THAT'S THREE DIFFERENT FACADES.
THAT WAS NOT NO, I KNOW WHAT THE INTENT IS.
I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FACADE AND A SIDE.
UM, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE, AND, AND, AND, UH, THEY'RE INCLUDING THE WAIVER, UM, PROVISION.
UM, AND, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HANDLED SOME OF THOSE IN THE PAST.
THE ONE THAT POPS INTO MY MIND IS FOR, UH, EVO, BECAUSE THEY SAT, BECAUSE THEY SIT SO FAR OFF THE, OFF THE ROADWAY.
WE, WE, UM, WE ALLOWED A WAIVER TO MAKE THEIR, THEIR LETTERS OR THEIR SIGN BIGGER SO IT WAS VISIBLE.
UM, SO THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS PROVISIONS LIKE THAT YOU LOOK LIKE THE CHESHIRE CAT DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, OR YEAH.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, WE CAN RECOMMEND THEY APPROVE, WE CAN RECOMMEND THEY DENY IT, UH, WE CAN RECOMMEND, UM, APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
AND I JUST WANTED, I I, I REMEMBER ONE YOU TALKED ABOUT FEATHER FLAGS.
AT ONE POINT THEY WANTED, THEY DIDN'T WANT 'EM, THEY DIDN'T WANNA ALLOW 'EM AT ALL.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR THREE OPTIONS.
IF, UM, UH, IF SOMEBODY WILL ACT LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, YES.
ALL I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL UDC AMENDMENTS, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE FREESTANDING SCIENCE TABLE.
UM, TO BREAK THE FARM, TO MARKET ROADS OFF FROM THE INTERSTATE CATEGORY AND SET A MAX HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.
AND JUST ANOTHER CLARITY AS WELL.
IN THE MAX, NOT, NOT ADJUSTING THE MAX AREA, THE AREA'S FINE, CORRECT.
JUST THE HEIGHT, MAX HEIGHT, 35 FEET.
UNLESS ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST THE AREA.
NO, THAT, THAT, THAT'S YOUR MOTION.
WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO IT.
SO COMMISSIONER WALLACE HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, OR A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH, UH, WITH THE CONDITION OR, OR WITH A CHANGE TO, UH, I GUESS IT'S THE FREESTANDING SIGNS.
UH, RE RE REMOVE THE, MOVE THE FARM TO MARKET ROADS TO THEIR OWN LINE.
AND LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 35 FEET.
DOES THAT SOUND PRETTY GOOD? THAT'S IT.
AND COMMISSIONER MCMASTER HAS SECONDED IT SEPARATE.
ALRIGHT, SO IS THERE, IS EVERYBODY CLEAR WITH, WITH THE MOTION? DO YOU, DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION IS? YEP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYONE LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE OR CHANGE IT? RIGHT.
SO, UM, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
CAN YOU PUBLISH THAT? SEVEN AYES.
NONE OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES.
NOW, JUST TO CLARIFY, ANY EXISTING 40 FOOT SIGN WOULD BE GRANDFATHER? YEAH, THEY'D BE NONCONFORMING.
SO THAT'S, UH, WE'RE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'VE DONE ALL THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS.
[A. Requests by Commissioners to place items on a future Planning and Zoning Agenda]
AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.REQUEST BY COMMISSIONERS TO PLACE ITEMS ON A FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE? YEAH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST STAFF.
[01:30:10]
ANYBODY ELSE? ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANYBODY[B. Announcements by Commissioners City and community events attended and to be attended Continuing education events attended and to be attended]
HAVE ANYTHING? JUDY, GO AHEAD.MY NEW OFFICE IS IN, UH, COMMON GROUND REAL ESTATE CO-OP, AND WE ARE HAVING OUR RIBBON CUTTING ON MAY 22ND WITH THE CHAMBER.
THERE'S UH, THREE REAL ESTATE BROKERS AND A REAL ESTATE LENDER IN THERE.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY OUT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SNACKS, DRINKS, AND THE ACTUAL CUTTING OF THE RIBBON.
UH, THIS WEEK IS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK, AND SO MANY OF YOUR CHILDREN AND YOURSELVES HAVE HAD GREAT TEACHERS IN THE PAST.
AND IF THEY'RE STILL AROUND, UH, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND TELL 'EM.
AND REAL QUICK, UM, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY, SO I ASSUMED THE, THE, THOSE OF YOU, I, I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION DINNER, AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE A, UH, A GIFT FOR US.
AND, UM, THIS YEAR IT WAS, UH, THE EMAIL SAID IT WAS, UH, SOME KIND OF A COLLAPSIBLE COOLER.
UM, SO, UM, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET THAT EMAIL, UM, YOU JUST SWING BY THE, BY THE, UM, ADMIN BUILDING BACK HERE.
UM, AND, UH, PICK THAT UP FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
YEAH, IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS GONNA BE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, GRANDSON BIRTHDAY STATE PRECEDENT, SO, YEAH.
SO ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE? STAFF YOU HAVE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE? HUH? WE'RE JUST HAVING THE GIGGLES, HUH? NO, NOTHING FROM STAFF.
[C. Announcements by City Staff. City and community events attended and to be attended.]
SEVEN C IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S A STATUS OF, OF, UM, UH, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON AT CITY COUNCIL? UM, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH LAST NIGHT'S VIDEO, SO I DON'T KNOW.THERE, I THINK THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OF OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA LAST NIGHT, BUT I HAVE, I HAVEN'T WATCHED IT YET, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT.
UM, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL HOW MUCH WE, YEAH.
SO IT IS, UH, 7 43 AND THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.