[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
IT IS, UH, 6:00 PM AND THIS IS THE AUGUST 6TH, 2025 REGULAR SESSION OF THE SHERTZ PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ITEM NUMBER ONE WAS CALLED ORDER.
[2. SEAT ALTERNATE TO ACT IF REQUIRED]
AN ALTERNATE, UH, DON'T THINK WE HAVE WITH US THIS EVENING IN ALTERNATES.[3. HEARING OF RESIDENTS This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the Planning and Zoning Commission. Each person should fill out the Speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than three (3) minutes. Discussion by the Commission of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]
THREE, HEARING OF RESIDENCE.DID ANYBODY SIGN UP? NOBODY SIGNED UP.
NO EMAILS OR TEXTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.
UH, ITEM, YEAH, I ALMOST MISREAD THAT.
[A. Election of Planning and Zoning Commission Chair and Vice Chair ]
NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, FOUR A IS THE ELECTION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UH, SOMETHING WE DO ONCE A YEAR.AND, UM, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, THE WAY I LIKE TO DO THIS, UM, IS, WE'LL, WE'LL START WITH THE CHAIR AND I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
IF WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE NOMINEE, THEN WE'LL DO A, UM, VOICE VOTE OR SHOW OF HANDS OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN AFTER WE SETTLE THAT ONE, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ELECTING OURSELVES A VICE CHAIR.
DOES THAT SOUND ALL RIGHT TO EVERYBODY? ALRIGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. CLAYTON WALLACE.
ANY OTHERS? WELL, WE ALREADY GOT, WE ALREADY HAVE MR. WALLACE NOMINATED, SO I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR ANY OTHERS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON TO VOTE THEN, CLAYTON.
A BIT OF A SURPRISE, BUT, UM, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
UM, I THINK THOUGH FOR, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE VOTING SYSTEM IS SET UP FOR TONIGHT, SO LET ME HAND THIS TO YOU AND YOU CAN TAKE OVER RUNNING THE MEETING FROM THERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WELL, I WILL, UH, ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
NO ONE I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. UH, MCMASTER.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA:]
LET'S MOVE ALONG TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM FIVE A, THE MINUTES FOR THE JULY 2ND MEETING.
ANYONE HAVE ANY EDITS COMMENTS? IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SECOND, A, UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARBON CARBON.
UM, IF NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE VOTE BET'S EVERYONE.
IF WE COULD PLEASE PUBLISH THAT.
[A. PLSPU20250139- Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow Mixed-Use Self-Storage in General Business District (GB) on approximately 2.14 acres, located along the IH-35 North access road, approximately 900 feet west of the intersection of IH-35 and Cibolo Valley Drive, more specifically known as a portion of Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 62840, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas]
NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARINGS.THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO ZONE CHANGE.
ITS REQUEST SPECIFIC USE PER REQUEST AND UDC AMENDMENTS WITHIN THIS AGENDA.
UM, ANYONE IS WELCOME TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME AND THEN WE WILL, UH, COMMISSION WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMISSIONERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
ITEM SIX A-P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 3 9.
WE'RE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON OUR REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW MIXED USE SELF-STORAGE IN GB DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 2.14 ACRES.
LOCATED ALONG IH 35 NORTH ACCESS ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 900 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF IH 35 AND SBO VALLEY DRIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS A PORTION OF THE GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 2 8 4 0.
CITY SHIRTS, GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 3 9 A PROPOSED SEP FOR MIXED USE SELF STORAGE.
WILLIE WILLINGHAM PLANNER FOR YOUR ORIENTATION.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNPLED.
THE PROPERTY'S UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME AS OUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE AROUND IT.
UH, WE DO HAVE THE ONE PROPERTY THAT'S DOING BUSINESS AS A, UM, AS A,
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AS A EQUIPMENT RENTAL, EXCUSE ME.AND THEN UP TO THE NORTH, WE ALSO HAVE THE QT KIND OF FURTHER AWAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AS WELL.
NOTIFICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ON JULY 25TH, 2025.
AS OF TODAY, WE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES.
ONE SIGN WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT, AND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE IS TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL BACKGROUND ON THE SEP REQUEST.
SO THE APPLICANT'S INTENT IS TO CONSTRUCT A FOUR STORY STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY 121,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE, OF COURSE, THAT SELF STORAGE UNITS, BUT ALSO TO HAVE THAT OFFICE RETAIL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO CONSIDERING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THE LIMITS OF THE REQUESTED SUP BOUNDARY.
OF THOSE 2.14 ACRES AND UDC SECTION 2158, THE PERMITTED USE TABLE REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MIXED USE SELF-STORAGE IN A GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
FOR SOME MORE BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE HAVING DEJA VU RIGHT NOW, IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF HEARD THIS CASE BEFORE FOR TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES.
SO THE FIRST ORDINANCE WAS 24 S 26, UH, THAT PROPERTY WAS LOCATED ALONG 3 0 0 9.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD A HEARING ON MAY 8TH AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON JUNE 18TH, 2024.
AND THE A CP IS SET TO EXPIRE TWO YEARS AFTER THAT.
AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD AND BROUGHT FORTH, UH, S OR EXCUSE ME, ORDINANCE 24 S ONE 70.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ACREAGE IS 3.68 OR 3.6 ACRES.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD THIS CASE ON NOVEMBER 6TH AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND COUNSEL APPROVED THIS ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024 WITH THE SUP EXPIRATION DATE OF TWO YEARS LATER AS WELL IN 2026 FOR SOME MORE BACKGROUND, JUST KIND OF TO SEE WHERE FOR YOUR ORIENTATION, YOU CAN SEE THE SEP AREA MAP, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF LOCATED FURTHER TO THE SOUTH IN THAT HIGHLIGHTED GREEN AREA.
THAT'S WHERE THAT FIRST SEP WAS REQUESTED.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE YELLOW AREA UP TOP, THAT IS WHERE THE SECOND SEP WAS REQUESTED.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE IN RED IN THE SEP FOCUS MAP IS WHERE THE CURRENT SEP REQUEST IS.
AND THEN KIND OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THAT BLUE COLOR IS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL CAN BE RELATED TO THIS SITE.
UDC SECTION 21 5 11 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIFIED LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY, THE OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.
SO THE COMP PLAN IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THE LONG RANGE VISION OF THE CITY.
REGIONAL CORRIDOR IS THE DESIGNATION OF THIS AREA.
IT'S INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT.
USES THAT KIND OF SERVE THE SURROUNDING REGION LOCATED ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
AND SO THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING AN SEP FOR MIXED USE OF STORAGE.
SO THIS OFFERS THAT FIRST FLOOR OF RETAIL SERVICE WHICH MEETS THE INTENT OF THE REGIONAL CORRIDOR.
TWO, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED AS GB.
CURRENTLY IT'S INTENDED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, OFFERING RETAIL SERVICES FOR THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE SUP FOUR MAKES FEW CELL STORAGE ENSURES THAT THE STRUCTURE CAN OFFER THAT RETAIL ELEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY.
THREE, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE BOTTOM HERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, LOCATED AROUND THIS AREA IS THE QT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THAT EQUIPMENT RENTAL.
AND THEN THE LARGER PHOTOS SHOWING WHAT THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE AT THIS TIME IT'S UNDEVELOPED.
UH, YOU SEE THOSE POWER LINES.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THIS AREA.
ZONED CURRENTLY AS GV WITH M1 FURTHER OUT.
SO IT DOES KIND OF MEET THE INTENT OF WHAT THIS UDC SECTION IS REQUIRING FOR THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE OVERALL HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AS PART OF PROMOTING HEALTH, SAFETY AND AND WELFARE.
THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS AREA IS ZONED AS GB AND THEN SURROUNDING AREAS ARE ALSO GB OR M1.
THE CITY OF SHIRTS FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUESTS AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATING TO THIS REQUEST.
FIVE, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
STAFF HAS ENSURED ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE COMMISSION CAN DISCUSS OTHER CRITERIA RELEVANT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 39.
THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW MIXED USE OF STORAGE AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONDITIONED UPON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ONE THAT A BUILDING PERMIT IS APPROVED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE SEP ORDINANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH UDC.
ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 21 5 11 F EXPIRATION OF AN SUP AND TWO 25% OF
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THE USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PROPOSED MIX.USE OF STORAGE BUILDING, BE FOR OFFICE SERVICE, RETAIL SPACE AND SEPARATE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS FOR RENT OR LEASE.
AND THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IS HERE.
I'M ASHLEY FAIRMONT WITH KI GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, THANK YOU WILLIAM FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M GONNA SKIP FORWARD JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO WILLIAM, UH, DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHY YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
UH, SO I AM WORKING WITH A GROUP STORAGE HUB AND WE HAVE COME FORWARD WITH TWO OTHER PROPERTIES, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS STORAGE.
THAT ONE IS PROCEEDING JUST AS A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THE PROCESS AND IT'S IN THE PLATTING PROCESS.
SO BEING PLATTED FOR JUST A RETAIL LOT IN THE AFTER THEY, THEY CAME FORWARD TO ZONE THAT SITE, UM, STORAGE HUB FELT LIKE THIS SITE ON 35 WAS BETTER.
AND SO THEN WE CAME IN FOR THE SECOND ZONING CASE, WHICH WAS ADJACENT TO THE QT, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS SITE IN WILLIAMS MAP WAS BETTER THAN THIS ONE.
BUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENED IN FURTHER ENGINEERING REVIEW OF THAT SITE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT, UM, DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF, UM, THEY NEEDED MORE PROPERTY TO DO THAT.
AND THE WAY THE DRAINAGE RUNS, IT'S TOWARD THIS PROJECT SITE HERE.
SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY CAPTURE THE DRAINAGE ON SITE AND BUILD THE STORAGE UNIT ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND IT JUST FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, WORKS BETTER FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY DID NOT PURCHASE OR DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE QT SITE.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THREE STORAGE UNITS.
THOSE WILL EXPIRE BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE ONE, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE THINK WORKS, UM, AFTER EXTENSIVE REVIEW.
SO, UH, THIS IS, IS A SITE PLAN, UM, SHOWING THAT THIS COMPLIES WITH THE MIXED USE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS OF HAVING THAT RETAIL OFFICE KIND OF FLEX SPACE ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND THEN, UH, THE STORAGE SPACE BEHIND AND THEN ABOVE, UM, AND JUST A, A COLORED RENDERING SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SITE WORKS.
UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY IS GB AND UM, THEY ARE ARE LOOKING TO DO SOME TYPE OF RETAIL ADJACENT OR ON THIS MAP IT WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT AND JUST, UH, AN EXHIBIT OF HOW THAT PROPERTY WOULD LOOK.
UM, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, WE REALLY HOPE THIS SITE WORKS.
APPRECIATE YOU ALL SUPPORT ON THE PREVIOUS PROPERTIES.
UM, DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A MARKET AND A GOOD PLACE FOR THIS STORAGE, BUT, UM, YEAH, JUST, JUST NEEDS TO BE ONE.
SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN, UH, THE FLOOR TO COMMENT.
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MISSION, THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SIX 13.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
YEAH, I THINK I HAVE A SIMILAR ONE.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF UH, ANYONE HAS A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 3 9 SECOND.
THAT ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CARBON SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER.
AND THAT'S WITH THE CONDITIONS.
CAN YOU, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT OR ARE WE GOOD? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY IT.
WHAT'S THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN BY, UH, STAFF? OKAY, SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
YOU STILL WANT A SECOND? STILL WANT SECOND? OKAY.
STILL WANT A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
AND IF NOBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF YOU'LL PLEASE VOTE.
IF WE COULD PUBLISH THAT PLEASE.
[B. PLCPA20250165- Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to amend the Comprehensive Land Use Plan- Future Land Use Map from Complete Neighborhood and Regional Corridor to Industrial Hub on approximately 96-acres of land, known as 10661 IH 10 E, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 619206, City of Schertz, Bexar County.]
IF, UH, ONTO ITEM B-P-L-C-P-A 2 0 2 5 0 1 6 5.HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REGIONAL CORRIDOR TO INDUSTRIAL HUB ON APPROXIMATELY 96 ACRES OF LAND KNOWN AS 1 0 6 6 1 IH 10 EAST, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 2 0 6.
CITY SHIRTS, BEAR COUNTY GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
A COMP PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND APPROXIMATELY 96 ACRES.
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OUTLINED IN YELLOW.IT IS LOCATED ALONG IH 10 E EAST ACCESS ROAD.
IT IS KIND OF NESTLED IN BETWEEN SCENIC LAKE DRIVE, WHERE YOU SEE CORE FIVE STARTING TO GO UP AND NORTH GRAY TOWN ROAD.
AND THEN WITHIN THE LARGER AREA, LOOP 1604 IS, UM, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY OVER HERE.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND M1 MANUFACTURING LIGHT DISTRICT.
IT IS CURRENTLY, UM, DEVELOPED AND THEN TO THE NORTH WE HAVE M1, BUT THEN WE UH, ALSO HAVE THE GRAY TOWN, PDD, UM, A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH SOME GENERAL BUSINESS AS WELL.
AND THEN TO THE EAST WE HAVE AGAIN THE GRAY TOWN, PDD GENERAL BUSINESS TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE THE IH 10 EAST ACCESS ROAD AND I IH 10.
AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE SOME MORE GB AND SOME MORE M1.
SO THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IN THE AREA.
UH, CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REGIONAL CORRIDOR ALONG IH 10 AND IT IS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL IN THE BACK.
AND THEN WITHIN THE GREATER AREA WE HAVE THE ONLY INDUSTRIAL HUB WITHIN SOUTHERN SHIRTS AND ALONG IH 10 TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE THAT RIGHT AWAY AGAIN.
AND THEN AGAIN, KIND OF JUST SHOWING YOU, UM, ITS REGIONAL CORRIDOR COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT INDUSTRIAL HAIR HUB IN THE AREA.
WE DID SEND OUT FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES ON JULY 24TH.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.
AND THEN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS, WE LOOK TO UDC SECTION 21 4 60 FOR THE CRITERIA OF APPROVAL.
SO WHEN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN IS MEANT TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT TO REMAIN RELEVANT WITH THE DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO CHANGE, UM, AS THE COMMUNITY CHANGES OR AS WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA OR AS THINGS ARE CHANGING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THERE IS EXISTING INDUSTRIAL HUB WITHIN THIS AREA OF SOUTHERN SHIRTS THAT WAS CONSIDERED.
UM, WHEN THE COMP PLAN WAS BEING DONE, THEY LOOKED AT THE EXISTING M1 IN THIS AREA.
THEY LOOKED AT THE, THE LOCATION OF 1604 AND IH 10 AND THEY THOUGHT THAT INDUSTRIAL HUB MADE SENSE FOR THIS AREA.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT CONSIDER THE LARGER AREA.
UM, AND THE REMAINDER OF THE M1 WITHIN THIS POCKET OF SOUTHERN SHIRTS AND THE GB THAT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO THIS CORE FIVE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
SO, UH, STAFF SEES IT AS AN EX AS AN EXISTING EXPANSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL HUB THAT'S THERE SINCE IT IS SEEN AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER ALONG IH 10 WITHIN THAT PROXIMITY TO LOOP 1604.
UM, ALSO THE STRATEGIC PLAN HAS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A THRIVING ECONOMY BY SUPPORTING BUSINESS RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN PAST 1604 RECENTLY ON THIS SIDE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT CORE FIVE TILT WALL BUILDINGS GO UP RAPIDLY AND WE SEE THAT AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT.
SO THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, IMPLEMENTS THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STRATEGIC PLAN, THUS PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY TO AN AMENDMENT TO THE TEXAS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND OTHER POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DIVERSITY.
UH, THIS INDUSTRIAL HUB THAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE IS SEEN AS PROMOTING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT AREA.
UH, AS AGAIN, AS AN EXTENSION OF WHAT'S ALREADY GOING ON IN CORE FIVE.
IT'S NEAR SOME PREEXISTING INDUSTRIAL HUB THAT AGAIN IS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOCATION ON IH 10 A LOOP 16 0 4 3 AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, MASTER
MAPS CONTAINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN THAT APPLY TO THE MAP BEING AMENDED.
AGAIN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS WRITTEN WITH BEST PRACTICES FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES WRITTEN IS TO ACTUALLY KEEP IT UPDATED.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS MEANT TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, PHYSICAL, TECHNOLOGICAL, AND SOCIAL CONDITION AS WELL AS ANY UN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, AGAIN, WHEN THE COMPLIMENT WAS BEING AMENDED, THE M1 THAT WAS EXISTING IN THIS AREA SHOULD HAVE REALLY BEEN CONSIDERED.
UM, SO NOW WE GET TO COME BACK AND RECONSIDER THAT.
BUT ALSO THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THAT FOCUS AREA TWO AND FOCUS AREA TWO, UM, IS INTENDED OR THEY RECOMMENDED STRATEGICALLY PLANNING DEVELOPMENT TO SERVE THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE BUSINESS POTENTIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAYS.
AND FOUR, ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME THE MAP, THE PLAN MAP OR TEXT WAS CONSIDERED IMPLEMENTS PLAN POLICIES BETTER THAN THE CURRENT PLAN MAP PROTECTS AND CORRECTS A MAPPING ERROR OR ADDRESSES A DEFICIENCY IN THE PLAN.
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SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE ONLY AREA WITHIN SOUTHERN SHIRTS THAT HAS M1 ZONING AND THAT HAS THE ONLY EXISTING INDUSTRIAL HUB IN THE AREA.THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED DURING THE INITIAL COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT THIS PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL HUB REFLECTS OUR DEVELOPMENT CHARACTER WITHIN THE SPECIFIC NOOK OF SOUTHERN SHIRTS THAT IS NESTLED BETWEEN 1604 AND IH TEN FIVE OTHER FACTORS WHICH ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT STAFF ENSURE THIS MEETS ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WAS SENT TO THE CITY OF SHEZ FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOR REVIEW.
AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO DUE TO THE UNIQUE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN PROXIMITY OF 1604 LOOP AND IH 10, THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL ZONING IN THE SUBJECT AREA, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF P-L-C-P-A 20 25 0 1 6 5 AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
HI, ASHLEY FAIRMONT AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL.
UM, I, I HAVE A PRESENTATION AND CHAIR I, I DO SORT OF ADDRESS THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL 'CAUSE I DO THINK THEY ARE ASSOCIATED, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SPEAKS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AS DAISY MENTIONED, IT'S 96 ACRES.
A A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS FLOODPLAIN.
UM, SO ABOUT 28 ACRES IS, IS WHAT'S DEVELOPABLE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT ALL FRONTS ALONG I 10.
UM, SO IT HAS THIS SPLIT ZONING, THE M1 IN THE BACK AND THE GB TWO IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE BACK WHERE THE M1 IS AND THE REGIONAL CORRIDOR IN THE FRONT.
SO WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND APPRECIATE THEM WORKING WITH US.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THE BEST APPROACH TO THIS ZONING.
IS IT M1 ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY? IS IT GB TWO OR DO WE, YOU KNOW, DOWN ZONE A PORTION AND, AND WHAT DO WE WORK ON? AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE CAME TO IS THE GB OR THE PDD WITH THE GB TWO USES, UM, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, BUT AS PART OF THAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, TO THE EAST OF THE CORE, FIVE TO THE EAST OF 16 AND FOUR AND I 10 INTERSECTION IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND THEN TO THE WEST OF GRAY TOWN.
IT IS NOT AN IDEAL RETAIL, UH, AT LEAST LARGE RETAIL LOCATION.
UM, BUT DO HAVE PLANS FOR, UM, SOME MORE SERVICE ORIENTED BUILDINGS, UH, AS WELL AS WAREHOUSING DISTRIBUTION.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU A SITE PLAN WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO HERE IN THE BLUE THAT, THAT AREA IS MOSTLY FLOODPLAIN.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SAY ROUGHLY 68 ACRES OR SO.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS THERE IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.
SO THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED ALONG WITH THE PLATTING.
UH, AND THEN THE 28 ACRES, THAT IS THE, UM, KIND OF THE WAREHOUSE LOGISTICS TYPE PROJECT.
UM, BUILDING A ONE AND A TWO, WHICH ARE THE SMALLER BUILDINGS ON THE LEFT OF THIS SITE PLAN.
UH, THE IDEA THERE IS THAT THOSE ARE SHALLOW BAY TYPE FLEX BUILDINGS, SO THAT IS MORE SERVICE ORIENTED, MAYBE LOCAL, UM, LIKE IF YOU HAVE A PLUMBER, ELECTRICIAN OR SOMEBODY WHO NEEDED SPACE.
UM, NOT AS LARGE AS THE CORE FIVE 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF AT THE CORNER, BUT THESE WOULD SUPPORT, UH, BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES IN THE AREA.
AND THEN THE TWO LARGER BUILDINGS WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR THE, THE WAREHOUSE, UM, DISTRIBUTION LOGISTICS BUILDINGS AND, AND USERS THAT NEED THAT HIGHER DOCK ENTRY SPACE.
JUST A, A BIT OF A ZOOMED IN VIEW.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS A, A RENDERED SITE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE BUILDINGS AND THEN THE, THE OPEN SPACE WHERE THE FLOOD PLAIN WOULD BE OR IS, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN JUST SOME IDEAS CONCEPTUALLY OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO GET INTO THE PDD CONDITIONS ON ON THE NEXT ONE.
I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO HEAR ME MAKE A SECOND PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATE STAFF WORKING WITH US ON THAT.
SOME OF THE BENEFITS THERE IS, UM, WITH THE PDD, WE ARE RESTRICTING THE FLOODPLAIN TO DRAINAGE EASEMENT NON-DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT PROVIDES THE BUFFER BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THEN SOME OTHER CONDITIONS AS WELL, INCLUDING RESTRICTING USES LARGER TREE PLANTINGS AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING FOR THE PDD NEXT DOOR FOR RESIDENTIAL.
UH, SO WITH THAT WE HOPE YOU SUPPORT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AGAIN, THINK THIS MAKES SENSE,
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THIS IS ONE COHESIVE PROJECT, UH, ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THINK IT'S A GOOD FIT KIND OF AGAIN FOR THIS AREA THAT'S MID-BLOCK.SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
GEORGE WELLS BY RESIDENT IS 1 22 RIVER ROAD.
CURRENTLY FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE IS THE ONLY THING THAT COVERS THAT PART OF THE ENTIRE CITY.
IF WE START ADDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE, WHERE'S THE NEXT FIREHOUSE GONNA BE? THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WHAT IS 6 26? WE'RE CLOSED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? GO FOR IT.
YOU WANNA HAVE, UH, STAFF ADDRESS THIS MAN'S CONCERN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? YEAH.
UM, SO FOR THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, WE DID REACH OUT TO EMS FIRE AND PD.
UH, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS FROM FIRE ABOUT THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN OR ZONE CHANGE.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ASHLEY, CAN YOU, UM, I HAD ONE QUESTION.
CAN YOU GO BACK? I THINK YOU HAD AT THE END YOU SAID YOU WERE, THIS WAS, UM, THE EASEMENT AREAS BEING PLATTED OUT AS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
SO EVEN IN THE FUTURE IT COULDN'T BE OKAY.
SO THIS IS IN THE PLATTING PROCESS NOW.
UM, AND THE DRAINAGE AREA, I THINK WE'LL CALL IT THAT.
UM, IS PLA BEING PLATTED AS A 900 SERIES LOT MM-HMM
UH, SO THAT IS PART OF THE PLA AND THEN AS EXTRA PROTECTION? YEAH.
UM, WE ARE ADDING THE PDD CONDITION THAT IT HAS TO REMAIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT OR OPEN SPACE BASICALLY, UM, OTHER THAN THE ROAD.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY UTILITIES THAT NEED TO RUN THROUGH THERE, THE BLUE SPACE WILL REMAIN NATURAL.
COMMISSIONER OUTLAW, COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
UM, NUMBER ONE, WE JUST SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN AND HERE WE ARE ALREADY AMENDING IT AND, UM, IT ALWAYS MAY WELL, NO, I, I WON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
UM, IT, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHY DID WE BOTHER DOING A COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT EVERY TIME A DEVELOPER ROLLS IN HERE AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? OKAY, MY OTHER CONCERN IS WHEN, WHEN YOU, UM, IT'S HARD TO SEE FROM THIS DRAWING, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, IF YOU GO BACK, UM, TO WHERE IT, WHERE IT SHOWED THE CURRENT INDUSTRIAL HUB AND WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THIS ONE, NOW WE HAVE THAT SECTION OF PROPERTY IN BETWEEN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, NOW HOW DO I WANT TO PUT THIS? IF, IF, IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO, IF IF THIS GOES FORWARD AND GETS APPROVED, THEN NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONSTRICTING OR, OR YOU'RE CONSTRAINING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR INTO THAT, UM, LITTLE BITTY WEDGE.
UM, LET ME JUST THROW A PERSONAL COMMENT HERE.
I, AS, AS FAR AS FIRE DEPARTMENT GOES, UM, LET ME SEE, YEAH.
EVERY ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS WILL BE FULLY SPRINKLED AND, AND TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, OTHER THAN MEDICAL AND EMS EMERGENCIES, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF IS FIRE ISSUES WITH, WITH THIS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, BUT AGAIN, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THIS, THIS IS A BRAND NEW COMP PLAN AND HERE WE ARE CHANGING IT AGAIN.
ANYBODY ELSE? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, FOR ITEM B.
THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PLCP 2 0 2 5 0 1 5 SECOND.
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THAT IS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARBON TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PCPA 2 0 2 5 0 1 6 5.IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE VOTE.
CAN WE PLEASE PUBLISH THAT? SO WITH A TIE, THAT MOTION DOES NOT PASS.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO RECOMMEND OR MAKE A SECOND MOTION? NO POINT OF ORDER.
NOT NECESSARILY GOOD TIE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO FOR STAFF, THIS WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION OR WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A DENIAL MOVING FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND, UH, DENIAL OF P-L-C-P-A 20 25 0 1 6 5 SECOND, THE MOTION.
THAT IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OUTLAW AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUGHES TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF CPA OR P-L-C-P-A 2 0 2 5 0 1 6 5.
ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, PLEASE VOTE.
CAN WE PLEASE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? AND WE REMAIN IN THE SAME POSITION.
I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND, AND MAYBE, UH, THIS WILL END UP, IT, IT'LL STILL, I I BELIEVE IT'LL STILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND, AND BASICALLY THEY WON'T HAVE A RECOM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SEE THE RECORD.
IS THAT RIGHT BRIAN? COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.
SO THE ASSUMPTION IS IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY STAND ON THIS AND NOBODY'S CHANGING THEIR VOTE, YOU CAN HAVE TWO THINGS.
THE CHAIR CAN EITHER COME TO THE POINT THAT A MOTION TO APPROVE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, AND THUS IT'S A DENIAL RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES ON TO COUNSEL BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A, HAVE A POSITIVE ESSENTIALLY, UM, OR WHAT YOU CAN DO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH THE APPLICANT, IF THEY HAVE A PREFERENCE, YOU COULD CONTINUE THE ITEM TO NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING FOLKS.
SO YOU GET IN THIS SPOT, YOU'RE STUCK.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING YOU COULD DO IS IF THERE'S NOT A TIME CONSTRAINT, CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I'M SEEING A NOD AND, AND SO MY OPINION ALWAYS IS, IS IF YOU'RE SHORT A MEMBER AND YOU'RE IN THIS, I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD LIKE IT CONTINUED.
SO THEY GET THAT FAIR SHAKE OF SEVEN.
NOW AGAIN, WE'LL SEE WHO SHOWS UP, WHO'S HERE, WHO'S NOT.
UM, BUT THAT TENDS TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS A FAIRNESS TO THE APPLICANT IS CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, WE'LL REALLY PUSH TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE ODD NUMBER AND GO IN THE FULL SEVEN.
BUT, BUT YOUR CALL IS THE CHAIR.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A CONTINUANCE, ASHLEY, OR WOULD YOU RATHER MOVE FORWARD? UM, NO, WE'D BE OPEN TO A CONTINUANCE.
MY CLIENT HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 20 YEARS,
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN, EVERYTHING'S BEING DEVELOPED NOW AND SO THEY'RE IN THE PLATTING PROCESS, BUT I THINK A CONTINUANCE WOULD BE OKAY.
WELL IF I, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE P-L-C-P-A 20 25 0 1 6 5 UNTIL THE, UM, SEPTEMBER MEETING SECOND.
THAT WAS COMMISSIONER CONE? YES SIR.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, IF YOU'LL PLEASE REGISTER YOUR VOTE FOR THE CONTINUANCE AND THAT IS SIX VOTES.
IF WE COULD PLEASE PUBLISH THAT.
ALRIGHT, THIS ITEM WILL BE PUSHED FORWARD TO THE SEPTEMBER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, ASHLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO POSTPONE THE CORRESPONDING ZONING CASE OR, OKAY.
[C. PLPDD20250164- Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a zone change request from General Business District (GB) and Manufacturing (Light) District (M-1) to Planned Development District (PDD) on approximately 96 acres of land known as 10661 IH 10 E, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Number 619206, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
C IS P-L-P-D-D 2 0 2 5 0 1 64.[00:35:03]
WE'RE GONNA HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND MANUFACTURING LIGHT DISTRICT M1 TO PDD OR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 96 ACRES OF LAND KNOWN AS 1 0 6 6 1 IH 10 EAST, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEAIRD COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 2 0 6.CITY OF ASSURES, BEAIRD COUNTY, TEXAS PPL, PDD 20 25 0 1 64 96 ACRE REZONE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DAISY MARQUEZ PLANNER.
HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINE IN YELLOW.
IT'S THE SAME ONE WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND MANUFACTURING LIGHT DISTRICT.
UM, IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, BUT IT DOES HAVE A RESIDENCE THERE.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH WE HAVE M1 AND PDD.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE GRAY TOWN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST WE HAVE, AGAIN THE GRAY TOWN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AND GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE THE IH 10 ACCESS ROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN TO THE WEST WE HAVE SOME MORE GB AND M1.
SO WE DID SEND OUT FOUR PUBLIC NOTICES AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES AND ONE SIGN WAS PLACED BY THE APPLICANT.
HERE'S THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS KIND OF SHOWING YOU.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY GB AND M1 AND THE PDD THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY IS BASED OFF OF GB TWO.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, THE LAW DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS ARE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE SAME.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT HERE, UH, ARE, UH, THE, THE REAR BUILDING SETBACKS WHEN IT COMES TO ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE PROPOSED PDD IS BASED OFF OF A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS 96 ACRES AND IT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF THE GB TWO ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE TABLE.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PROHIBIT USES THAT REQUIRE AN SUP AND GB TWO ZONING.
THIS IS A LIST OF THOSE USES THAT REQUIRE AN SUP, SO THEY WOULD BE INHERENTLY PROHIBITED BY THE PDD.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO ADDING THE PROHIBITION OF TRUCK CELLS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND TRAILER SLASH MANUFACTURED HOME CELLS.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT YOU COULD SEE THE PERMITTED USES.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE USES THAT WERE, THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN GB TWO.
AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE OFFICE SHOWROOM, OFFICE WAREHOUSE, DISTRIBUTION CENTER, AND GENERAL MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL USES.
THEY WOULD ALSO BE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE LANDSCAPING SECTION.
UH, CURRENTLY THE UDC ONLY REQUIRES TREES TO BE PLANTED AT TWO INCHES DIAMETER BREAST HEIGHT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ALL TREES TO BE REQUIRED THREE INCHES DIAMETER BREAST HEIGHT.
AND THEN THE MINIMUM TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENT, UM, WOULD BE NINE TREES PER ACRE.
UH, TYPICALLY THIS IS ONLY REQUIRED OF COMMERCIAL UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UPSIZE THAT REQUIREMENT TO NINE TREES PER ACRE INSTEAD OF SIX TREES PER ACRE.
AND THEN WHAT'S REALLY SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PDD IS THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS IMAGE, THE LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT SIGNIFICANTLY COVERS THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S ABOUT 96 ACRES AND UM, THE FLOODPLAIN COVERS ABOUT 68 TO 70 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO, UH, PREVENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
IT SHOULD ONLY, UM, IT IS BEING WRITTEN IN THE PDD THAT WOULD ONLY BE, UH, IT WOULD ONLY CONTAIN THE MASONRY WALL THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ONE SHADE TREE EVERY 30 LINEAR FEET.
SO, UM, THAT BUFFERING WOULD STILL BE THERE.
AND THEN THE 68 ACRES WOULD REMAIN UNDEVELOPED.
SO WE GET A MUCH LARGER BUFFER THAN WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
AGAIN, UM, IT'S MUCH LARGER THAN THE 50 FEET THAT M1 WOULD REQUIRE.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY WE GET TO PROTECT THE FLOODPLAIN AND NOTHING WOULD REALLY GO VERTICAL IN THIS AREA.
IT'S JUST WHATEVER NEEDS TO GO UNDERGROUND TO SUPPORT THE SITE AND ROADS.
AND AGAIN, SHOWING YOU THE CONCEPTUAL PRELIMINARY PLAT, THIS IS THE LOT THE SIZE OF THE 900 LAW.
ESSENTIALLY THAT'S BEING WRITTEN IN AS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S MOSTLY ALL OF THE FLOOD PLAINS, SO WE GET TO PRESERVE THAT.
AND WHEN LOOKING AT PDDS AND CONSIDERING THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, WE LOOK AT SECTION 21 5 10 F.
SO ONE, WHETHER THE PROPOSED PDD IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
SO THIS ZONE CHANGE IS ACCOMPANIED BY A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FLOOD, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
SO WHEN CONSIDERING THE EXISTING, UM, COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REGIONAL CORRIDOR, THE THE PD D IS NOT COMPATIBLE.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COMPANY COMP
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PLAN AMENDMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL HUB AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS AREA HAD THE ONLY CONTAINING M1 ZONING ALONG IH 10, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INDUSTRIAL HUB.AND WHEN CONSIDERING THE PDD WITH INDUSTRIAL HUB, UM, FEATURE LAND USE, PLANNED LAND USE DESIGNATION, IT REQUIRES LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES, YOU KNOW, BEING LOCATED NEAR MAJOR ROADS, HIGHWAYS, AND RAILWAYS.
AND THE PD IS COMPATIBLE WITH INDUSTRIAL HUB.
SO TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED PDD PROMOTES A HEALTH SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE FOR THE CITY AND SAFE, EARLY, EFFICIENT AND HEALTH DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS 96 ACRES AND APPROXIMATELY 70 ACRES ARE WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.
UH, THE PDD RESTRICTS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN VIA 900 LOT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT POSSIBLE REALLY WITHOUT A PDD.
WE DO HAVE, UM, A FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT, UH, SECTION IN OUR UDC THAT HAS CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS.
UM, THEY THEN SUPPORT, THEY CAN SUPPLY SPECIFIC ENGINEERING HYDROLOGY REPORTS TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
IT WOULDN'T MAKE ADVERSE IMPACTS.
UM, CL LOANERS CAN HAPPEN, BUT ALSO WE GET THIS NATURAL BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND USES.
SO AGAIN, IT'S MUCH MORE THAN WHAT IT COULD BE ENFORCED, UH, VIA THIS 900 LOT THEN THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
SO THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION AND THE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SUCH CHU WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE MEDIA OF THE ATLANTA AND BE RECLASSIFIED.
SO AGAIN, THE EXISTING M1 ONLY REQUIRES A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND THE GB REQUIRES A 25 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPOSED PDD IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT WOULD CREATE A LARGER RESIDENTIAL BUFFER THAT IS ALLOWED THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTION OF, USES A RESTRICTION OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND IT HAS AN INCREASED PROHIBITED USES FOR WHETHER THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ACCORD WITH ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC SCHOOL STREETS, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWERS, OR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO THE AREA.
AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO IH 10.
IT'S IN INSURED AND S-S-L-G-C, DUAL CCM FOR WATER SHIRTS AND SARAH DUAL CCM FOR SEWER AND IT IS IN CPS ELECTRIC SERVICE AREA.
AND FIVE, THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE PROPOSED PDD WILL RESERVE IN ITS SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD BE A THEN COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
AGAIN, THIS PROPOSED B-D-D-P-D-D IS PROPOSING GB TWO BASED ZONING, BUT WITH THE RESTRICTION OF PER PERMITTED USES ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING, A RESTRICTION OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
SO ENSURES THAT OUR APPROPRIATE USES BUFFERING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND PROVIDES INCREASED LANDSCAPING THAN WOULD BE POSSIBLE THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
SIX, WHETHER ALL THE APPLICANT'S BACK TEST IS OWED TO THE CITY HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL, THIS DOES NOT IMPACT PLANNING ZONING, COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND SEVEN, WHETHER OTHER CRITERIA MET, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO STAFF HAS ENSURE ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS PROPOSED PDD AND THE ZONING APPLICATION WAS SENT TO CITY OF SHARDS FIRE EMS AND POLICE EMS INDICATED THAT THERE ARE EXISTING RESPONSE TIME DELAYS DOWN 1518 AND INTO BEXAR COUNTY.
AND PDD EXPRESSED THAT INDIVIDUALLY THE ZONE CHANGES DOES NOT HAVE IMPACT, BUT THE INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE, WITHIN THE CITY AS A WHOLE ALONG 1518 IN THIS WHOLE AREA WILL HAVE AN IMPACT.
SO THE ZONING ITSELF WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
SO DUE TO THE PROPOSED AMENDED FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION TO INDUSTRIAL HUB, THE INCREASED SCREENING TO RESIDENTIAL USES, RESTRICTION OF USES ALLOWED IN PD D AND THE INCREASE OF LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF P-L-P-D-D 20 25 0 1 64, BUT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE THE PREVIOUS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, UH, STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT I, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PLAN AND SPENDING LOTS OF TIME ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I'VE SERVED ON PLANNING COMMITTEES AND, AND IT IS A LOT OF TIME, VOLUNTARY TIME.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION.
WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND BUT FELT THAT IN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, THAT THAT WASN'T THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE REAR.
AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF THAT IN ONE IS TO REZONE IT, WHICH TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO TO COME AND PRESENT NEXT TIME, BUT WE JUST FELT LIKE THIS ROUTE WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO.
UM, AND TO DO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AT ONE TIME AND DOWN ZONE, THE BACK PIECE.
UH, SO, BUT WITH THAT, HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
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TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT IS 6 45, SO ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? YES.
IT IS 6 45 STILL AND WE WILL CLOSE THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR THE POSTPONEMENT OR THE CONTINUANCE PLEASE? WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT REAL QUICK.
FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE, THE, THE PD PDD LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
IF WE, BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE OTHER ONE, UH, STILL A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WHAT ALLOWED USES THAT COULD BE IN THE PDD.
BUT, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE PO PD D 2 25 0 1 64 UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
THERE'S A MOTIONS THERE A SECOND.
FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER TO POSTPONE P-L-P-D-D 2 0 2 5 0 1 6 4 TO THE SEPTEMBER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
IF I COULD PLEASE, UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE VOTE.
UM, YEAH, WE SEEM TO BE HAVING AN ISSUE.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET MY VOTE TO COME UP.
DID EVERYBODY VOTE? YEAH, SO I THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE SCREEN OR THE VOTING SYSTEM.
SO IF YOU WANT, UH, IT'S YOUR, YOUR CALL IF YOU WANT TO REVER TO, WHY DON'T WE DO, LET'S DO A, A VERBAL VOTE REAL QUICK.
IF YOU COULD JUST COMMISSIONER CARBON.
AYE I'M ALSO, AYE THAT IS SIX IN AFFIRMATION FOR THE POSTPONEMENTS.
THIS ITEM WILL REAPPEAR IN SEPTEMBER.
[D. PLZC20250140 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 3.2 acres of land from General Business District (GB) to Apartment / Multi-family Residential District (R-4), generally known as 1116 FM 78, approximately 100 feet to the east of the FM 78 and River Road intersection, more specifically known as Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 38177, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas.]
TO PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 1 4 0 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON OUR REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.2 ACRES OF LAND FROM GENERAL BUSINESS GB TO APARTMENT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ARE FOUR GENERALLY NOTED AS UH, 1116 FM 78 APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED FEAST A HUNDRED FEET EAST TO THE EAST OF THE FM 78 AND RIVER ROAD INTERSECTION, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 8 1 7 7 CITY ASSURES GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS.COMMISSION TO SEE IF I CAN GET THIS ON THE SCREEN.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 1 4.
ZONE CHANGE REQUEST FROM GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO MULTIFAMILY.
UH, DISTRICT R FOUR SAMUEL HAAS SENIOR PLANNER.
UH, TO GET OUR BEARINGS HERE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN, THIS IS FM 78 AND RIVER ROAD, UH, 3 0 0 9 IS JUST FURTHER DOWN TO THE EAST.
MR. HAAS EAST, WE NEED IT ON OURS.
SO PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN HERE, UH, IT FRONTS FM 78 RIVER ROAD IS JUST TO THE WEST AND FM 3 0 9 IS JUST FURTHER
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DOWN HERE TO THE EAST.UH, THE PROPERTY IS 3.2 ACRES APPROXIMATELY.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS.
UH, CURRENTLY ON PROPERTY THERE IS A NON-CONFORMING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY ARE UNDEVELOPED.
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, SO THIS IS LOT 24 BLOCK ONE OF THE RIO VISTA SUBDIVISION.
THAT SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED IN THE SIXTIES.
UH, WE STAFF RESEARCHED AND SAW, FOUND A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE APARTMENTS FROM THE CITY IN 2000.
IT WAS ISSUED BY THE CITY IN 2000.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 55 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES ON THE SITE.
AND THOSE WERE CONSTRUCTED IN 1968.
THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE TO APARTMENT MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL R FOUR TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO CONFORMANCE AND THEN, UH, MAYBE POTENTIALLY DEVELOP THE EMPTY PORTIONS OF THE LOT.
ON JULY 25TH, 2025, A TOTAL OF 22 PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.
UH, SO FAR STAFF HAS RECEIVED THREE IN OPPOSITION.
TWO SIGNS WERE ALSO POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE EXISTING ZONING AS GB AND THE PROPOSED ZONING AS R FOUR.
SO STAFF UTILIZES UDC SECTION 2 1 5 4 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WHEN UH, ANALYZING ZONE CHANGES.
NUMBER ONE, WHETHER PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.
THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS A LOCAL CORRIDOR.
UH, LOCAL CORRIDOR IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF SMALLER SCALE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, TYPICALLY ALONG MEDIUM TO HIGH VOLUME ROADS.
SO THIS REQUEST DOES, UH, CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT IS SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING USES.
UH, THE UDC UH, EXPLICITLY STATES THAT WE SHOULD MINIMIZE THE CONFLICT OF USES OF LAND AND BUILDINGS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, ON THIS EXHIBIT, UH, IT'S MOSTLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THAT FM 78 CORRIDOR, THERE'S SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE NORTH AND JUST TO THE SOUTH, UH, WE HAVE THE LOKE SUBDIVISION AND ALSO THE RIO VISTA SUBDIVISION.
SO TYPICALLY, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S COMPATIBLE TO SURROUNDING USES, UH, THE PROPERTIES FRONTAGE ALONG FM 78 DOES CREATE THAT TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.
WE LIKE TO SEE IN GENERAL, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL OR MORE INTENSE USES LIKE MULTIFAMILY CREATE THAT BUFFER.
THIS IS SORT OF THAT TRANSITIONAL BUFFERING USE.
UH, AND I WILL REMIND, UH, THE COMMISSION THAT ARTICLE NINE SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN THE UDC IS IN PLACE TO HELP MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS.
THIS IS THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO AS PART OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, NUMBER THREE, WHETHER USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE WILL BE CONSISTENT, APPROPRIATE WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY ALREADY HAS MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
UH, AND AGAIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS COMMERCIAL USES SOME SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME PERMITTED USES HERE IN THE TABLE.
YOU HAVE FAMILY HOME, YOU KNOW, ONE FAMILY, TWO FA FAMILY.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED UH, USES AND THOSE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
AND NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED IRRELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
UH, THE CITY OF SHIRTS FIRE, EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE.
THEY PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS.
SO FIRE HAS UH, SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS 'CAUSE THEY WERE BUILT UH, QUITE A WHILE AGO.
SO THEY DON'T MEET CURRENT CODE.
UM, ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, HOWEVER, WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
EMS NO ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND PD WAS ALSO NOTIFIED AND THEY ALSO DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THE ZONE CHANGE.
S-C-U-C-I-S-D WAS NOTIFIED WITH THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
AND THIS SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING DOES PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
UH, THE REQUEST DOES ADHERE TO THE POLICY OF THE ADOPT ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
IT IS COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING USES.
IT IS ALSO BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
UH, THEREFORE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 1 4 0.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE IT A SMALL PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
I'VE LIVED ON RIVER ROAD SINCE 1970.
WE DIDN'T RECEIVE OUR NOTICE UNTIL FRIDAY, SO THERE WAS NO WAY WE COULD GET IT TO YOU IN TIME, LET'S CALL IT.
BUT WHEN I LEAVE RIVER ROAD AND GO EAST ON 78
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BEFORE I GET TO FM 50 OR FM 3 0 0 9, THE LIGHT HAS TO CYCLE THREE TIMES BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DAIRY QUEEN.IF WE ADD MORE APARTMENTS OUT THERE, UNLESS SOMETHING IS GONNA BE DONE WITH THAT INTERSECTION, IT'LL BE BACKED ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COUNTY OFFICE OR EVEN FURTHER.
AND IT'S THE SAME WAY COMING FROM SYBIL OAK.
SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT OTHER THAN ADDING MORE VEHICLES TO THE MIX.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME ON UP AGAIN? IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I LIVE AT FIVE 14 RIVER ROAD AND LIKE HE WAS STATING THAT INTERSECTION DOWN THERE AT RIVER ROAD AND FM 78 IS BAD.
AND UM, IT USED TO BE A STOP SIGN THERE AND WE COULD CONTROL GETTING IN AND OUT PRETTY MUCH WHEN WE NEEDED TO.
SOMETIMES YOU WOULD HAVE TO SIT THERE FOR A MINUTE, BUT THAT LIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TAXPAYER'S MONEY OR WHO PAID FOR THAT OR TAX DO, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT, BUT THE MONEY SPENT ON THAT IS WASTED.
IT HASN'T WORKED SINCE IT'S BEEN PUT IN.
I'VE OWNED MY HOUSE SINCE 19 80, 87 AND UH, I I I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT LIGHT.
I DON'T AGREE WITH PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC THERE.
IF THERE'S GONNA BE AN ENTRANCE COMING OUT RIGHT THERE ONTO RIVER ROAD, UH, IT IT'S JUST GONNA BACK UP.
THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WAITING IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO GET OUT ONTO RIVER ROAD BECAUSE IT'S BACKED UP WAITING TO GET OUT AT THAT LIGHT.
AND THOSE APARTMENTS, I TELL YOU WHAT, THEY WERE BUILT IN 1968, SUPPOSEDLY ACCORDING TO Y'ALL, THEY'RE RUN DOWN.
THEY'RE NOT VERY REPUTABLE COMPLEX AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANYTHING BENEFITING OUR SUBDIVISION COMING OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
HELLO, I AM MARY ALEXANDER AND I LIVE AT 1 0 3 PENTONVILLE.
OH YEAH, PULL IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
I LIVE AT 1 0 3 PENTONVILLE AND UH, LIKE THESE GENTLEMEN WAS SAYING, IT'S A NIGHTMARE AT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT.
AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU WANNA TURN ON THE STREET, YOU DON'T GET THAT GREEN ARROW.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE OR TWO ARROWS THAT THEY'LL GIVE YOU A GREEN ARROW JUST TO GET ON YOUR STREET.
AND UH, I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1989.
MY FENCE LINE BACKS RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THE APARTMENTS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PRETTY RUN DOWN.
I'VE LISTENED TO SOME HORRID FIGHTS COME OUT OF THERE AND ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
AND, AND, UH, I DON'T PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT MY BACK FENCE LINE PUT UP, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UP AGAINST OTHER APARTMENTS AND ALL, UH, JUST WHAT, WHAT ROOM DO THEY HAVE AND WHAT'S THAT GONNA CAUSE FOR THE, FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR US GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR HOMES AND, AND WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO TO THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES.
UM, AND I DIDN'T GET A LETTER MYSELF TILL LATE AND I HAD BEEN OUT OF TOWN AND LOST ONE BROTHER TO CANCER AND I'M TAKING CARE OF MY BABY BROTHER TO CANCER NOW.
SO I GOT MY LETTER IN, BUT IT WAS LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
SOON AS I GOT INTO TOWN, MY SON HANDED IT TO ME AND I CAME AND GAVE IT.
BUT IT, IT, AS IT IS, WE CAN'T, LIKE I SAID, GET IN AND IN AND OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION AND, AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE FIGHTS COMING FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S SCARY WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE AND YOU'RE HANGING CLOTHES AND YOU HEAR THIS HOARD FIGHTING WITH, UH, SOME GIRL GETTING BEAT UP AND WANTING HER CLOTHES AND, AND YOU'RE HANGING CLOTHES AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER INSIDE AND YOU'RE LOCKING ALL THE DOORS AND YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S NEXT? SO I JUST, I, I, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
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ANYBODY ELSE? COME ON UP.HEY, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
REAL QUICK, IF YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME, MY NAME REBECCA FLORES.
AND WE'VE BEEN THERE 39 YEARS AND TALK ABOUT THOSE APARTMENTS.
HELL HELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN AND OUT TURN GO AHEAD AND START RESEARCHING HOW MANY TIMES THE POLICE ARE THERE.
EVEN BEHIND THOSE APARTMENTS BEHIND DAIRY QUEEN CONSTANT.
JUST THE OTHER DAY WE HAD A ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING OF A KID ON RIVER ROAD, THE SECOND BLOCK OF RIVER ROAD.
I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY WOULDN'T TELL ME A THING, WOULDN'T TELL ME A THING THAT'S UNDER AN INVESTIGATION.
WHAT? TWO DAYS EARLIER THERE WAS SOME IDIOT TRYING TO KIDNAP ANOTHER KID FROM THE RESTAURANT.
WE DON'T NEED MORE RIFF WRAPPED COMING OUT OF THOSE APARTMENTS.
THERE'S BEEN SHOOTINGS THERE, THERE'S BEEN FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE.
THERE'S A CONSTANT BLOW OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SAYING ALL ARE BAD, BUT SOME OF 'EM WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
AND WE'RE OUT THERE CONSTANTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A KID, A LITTLE GIRL.
THE POLICE SAID KEEP HER INSIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED THOSE APARTMENTS THERE.
WE REALLY DON'T NEED THEM THERE.
THERE'S TOO MANY PROBLEMS AS IT IS WITH THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE NOW.
FIND OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOW MANY TIMES THEY'VE BEEN DOWN RIVER ROAD.
JUST CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, YEAH, COME ON UP.
YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THE CAR.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AT MY ADDRESS, BUT LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'M SEEING ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.
COPS SMELLING OF THE POT ALL THE TIME, NOISE, AND OF COURSE I DON'T DRIVE 'CAUSE I AM BLIND ALMOST.
BUT I SEE THE TRAFFIC ON RIVER ROAD.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AND FIXED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BE EVEN FEASIBLE IN MY OPINION.
IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
AND, UH, I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE IN 2015, BUT I WAS BORN AND RAISED ALL MY LIFE IN NEW BRAUNFELS, BUT NEW BRAUNFELS.
THAT'S WHY I MOVED DOWN HERE TO CHURCHS BECAUSE THERE'S A CONGESTION ON SAN ANTONIO STREET, ROUTE 3 37 SEGUIN STREET, COMMON STREET.
AND WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK OVER HERE, IT WASN'T TOO BAD, BUT IT'S GETTING WORSE.
AND THEN THE OTHER DAY MY WIFE WAS TELLING ME THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE LIGHT WHEN THIS CAR DIDN'T STOP.
SHE GOES, IF I DIDN'T WAIT, THAT CAR WOULD'VE HIT ME.
AND ANOTHER THING TOO, THERE WAS APARTMENTS BACK THERE A WHILE BACK.
THERE WAS ONE THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOOTING.
AND I, AND I WAS IN THE GARAGE AND I HEARD THE SHOT AND I WAS IN THE GARAGE AND I, AND YOU COULD HEAR IT, I HEARD HER PASS RIGHT BY THE GARAGE.
LIKE I GO OVER PROBABLY HIT MY STEPSON'S CAR.
IT DIDN'T HIT MY CAR, MY STEPSON, BUT IT HIT MY NEIGHBOR'S CAR.
THREE DAYS LATER, AGAIN, ANOTHER, THEY WERE SHOOTING AGAIN.
BUT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BULLETS WENT.
AND THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY DOWN THERE ALWAYS.
SO, AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU SEE THESE GUYS WALKING AROUND THERE LIKE ZOMBIES AT THREE 30 IN THE MORNING WHEN I LET MY DOGS LOOSE.
AND THEN THAT SAME GUY WHO TRIED TO KIDNAP THAT, THAT THAT PERSON OVER HERE ON ASIAN, HE WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE DAIRY QUEEN.
'CAUSE IT WAS MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY AND I WAS GETTING READY TO GO TO WORK AND I WAS, I WAS AT THE LIGHT WAITING AND HE WAS AT THE DAIRY QUEEN JUST LOOKING.
HE DIDN'T TOUCH THE WINDOWS PRETTY SMART.
HE DIDN'T TOUCH THE LAWYERS, BUT HE WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS DOOR AND THE OTHER DOOR.
AND I RECOGNIZED THAT GUY, THE ONE OVER HERE THAT WAS TRYING TO KIDNAP THAT LITTLE BOY OR LITTLE GIRL, WHATEVER IT WAS.
SO IT'S GETTING KINDA ROUGH THERE.
MY WIFE TELLING ME SHE WANTS TO MOVE.
SO IF YOU HAD THESE APARTMENTS, IT MIGHT EVEN GET WORSE.
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COME ON.HOW YOU DOING? GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M THE HOUSE LITERALLY DIRECTLY ADJACENT RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE THESE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS THAT ARE SPECIAL TO ME.
42 IS HOW MANY TIMES THE POLICE WERE ACTUALLY CALLED TO THIS UNIT IN THE LAST 365 DAYS.
WE HAVE THE POLICE CALLED THE APPLICANT.
I OWN A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
I'VE CAME TO HIM ONE DAY AND I SPOKE TO HIM IN REGARDS TO THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
BUT I WAS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THEM.
I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOL, IF HE WAS GONNA RENOVATE THAT.
HE SAID NO, HE WAS GONNA D GO AHEAD AND D DEMOLISH IT.
WELL, I CALLED THE CITY ON HIM BECAUSE WITH MY LICENSE I CON I CAN CONSTRUCT MULTIFAMILY AND I SAW THAT HE WASN'T EVEN PASSING CODE.
I HAD TO GO AHEAD AND SEE AND VERIFY WITH THE CITY IF HE INDEED HAD A PERMIT.
BECAUSE WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS JUST FILLING IN THE SWIMMING POOL WITHOUT TAKING OUT THE BOTTOM SO THAT WHEN IT RAINS, IT BECOMES A CESSPOOL.
THEY RED TAGGED YOU GUYS, RED TAGGED HIM.
THAT BULLET THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS MY SON'S CAR.
THE POLICE WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT THE DIRECTION WHERE THE BULLET CAME FROM.
THOSE APARTMENTS, I'VE GOT ANOTHER NUMBER FOR YOU.
FOUR, FOUR TIMES MY CAMERA CAUGHT SOMEBODY COMING FROM THOSE APARTMENTS.
MY TRAILER THAT HAD ABOUT $25,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT ON THERE.
SOMEBODY WALKED IN WHILE WE WERE ON VACATION.
$25,000 TOY THAT I HAD A PARAMO GONE.
THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU GUYS BEEN HEARING ABOUT $17,000, THAT'S HOW MUCH I HAD TO PAY FOR MY WIFE'S EMERGENCY BILL WHEN SHE GOT HIT AT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS THERE.
DAIRY QUEEN, THEY HAD TO RECENTLY CHANGE THE WHOLE PARKING BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE BACKED UP TRAFFIC TRAFFIC ON 78.
IF YOU GUYS IN FACT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT'S FINE, IT'S YOUR DECISION.
BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST A MASONRY WALL, EIGHT FEET, BLOCK THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, HAVE THE EXITS TOWARDS 78.
DON'T MAKE OUR LIFE, YOU KNOW, HARDER JUST SO THAT SOMEBODY ELSE CAN BE MORE PROFITABLE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT IS 7 0 8 REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UM, JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROCESS.
SO AT PLANNING AND ZONING, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS WON'T BE MADE UNTIL A LATER DATE UNLESS THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO WITHDRAW THIS REQUEST.
UM, SO IF YOU ARE STILL GETTING LETTERS IN THE MAIL, YOU CAN STILL SEND THOSE IN AND STAFF WILL SEND THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO SEND THAT IN.
THEY WATCH THESE HEARINGS, SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO, TO ADDRESS THAT MEETING AS WELL.
BUT WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT IS NOT THE FINAL DECISION.
WE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, OR DENY, UH, THE QUE THE REQUEST AND THEN THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, UH YEAH, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS CLOSED.
THE EIGHT FOOT WALL THAT HE'S REQUESTING, THAT'S ALREADY A REQUIREMENT BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY, ISN'T IT? CORRECT.
AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THEY'RE ALL CONCERNED WITH, IS THAT A TIMING ISSUE OR
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DON'T YOU KNOW? UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION AT THAT TIME.I FM 78 I WILL REMIND IS A TEXTILE FACILITY.
SO WE HAVE VERY LIMITED CONTROL OVER WHAT WE DO THERE.
BUT ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO COME INTO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CURRENT UDC REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL AND A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY USES, OR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO HE'S ONLY LOOKING TO DEVELOP THE, THE PART THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED.
SO IF, IF HE'S ONLY GONNA DEVELOP THAT AREA, IS HE ONLY REQUIRED TO BRING THAT AREA UP TO COMPLIANCE, HENCE THE BUFFER AND THE WALL AND NOT THE REST OF THE, UM, PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS RIGHT NOW? UH, YEAH.
TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE SITE PLAN IS WHAT WE CALL THAT, UM, THERE IS A LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION.
IF HE HAS AN INTENT TO BUILD COMPLETELY NEW APARTMENTS ON ALL OF IT, THEN IT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE WAY.
IF IT'S ONLY THE REMAINING ACRE, THEN THAT EIGHT FOOT MASON WHILE WOULD ONLY, SO IF HE DOESN'T TOUCH THE OLD APARTMENTS, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THE BUFFER OR THE WALL THERE.
AS, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC ON, ON FM 78, I I, I AGREE THAT'S A NIGHTMARE.
AND THAT IT'S NOT THE THE, AGAIN, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS, IS EVERY LARGE THOROUGHFARE WE HAVE IN THIS CITY BELONGS TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
THEY, THEY, THEY FIDDLE WITH THE TIMING ON THAT LIGHT AT AT 3 0 0 9 ALL THE TIME.
THEY TRIED PUTTING IN THAT, THAT STUPID CONFUSING LEFT TURN SIGN WITH THE CURVE ON IT.
UM, IT'S IN IT'S NUMBER ONE, IT'S OVER THE WRONG LANE.
I SEE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME MAKING THAT TURN THINKING THAT THAT LIGHT SAYS THEY CAN, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.
BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN OVERPASS AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YEAH.
UH, THERE SEEMS TO BE A MISCONCEPTION, OKAY? THIS ACTION, THIS ZONING REQUEST WILL HAVE, WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE CURRENT APARTMENTS.
ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, THE CRIME AND ALL THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS ACTION.
UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, AND I THINK STAFF TALKED ABOUT IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WHAT'S CALLED A NON-CONFORMING USE.
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO EXIST UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS FALL DOWN.
THEY JUST CAN'T DO ANY, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T EXPAND, THEY CAN'T REBUILD.
NOW, THE OTHER THING I WANNA MAKE SURE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND IS, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF CITY COUNCIL REZONES THIS PROPERTY ARE FOR, YOU HAVE REMOVED ANY AND EVERY CONSTRAINT ON THIS PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNER, ONCE IT'S REZONED TO R FOUR, HE CAN BULLDOZE EVERY ONE OF THOSE PARTS AND PUT UP A THREE OR A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY.
AM I WRONG? NO, YOU'RE NOT WRONG.
R FOUR IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT NO, DON'T THANK ME BECAUSE YOU'RE THANKING ME FOR THE WRONG REASON.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CURRENT APARTMENTS, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
AND I'M SORRY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYONE OF OF YOU SAY, BUT I'VE SAID FOR A LONG TIME, I, WE HAD OTHER ISSUES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.
UM, SO COMMISSIONER A, I KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT SO THEY CAN, AT, AT WHAT POINT I, IT IT'S JUST REBUILDING A NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S PROHIBITED BY THE NON-CONFORMING.
SO LIKE, IF THEY WANTED TO DO EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS TO, I MEAN, WHAT IF THEY WANNA DO EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS TODAY? THEY COULD DO THAT.
THEY CAN'T EXPAND THE NON-CONFORMING USE.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SAM, HE CAN'T TEAR 'EM DOWN TO BUILD NEW ONES.
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HE COULD RENOVATE AND REPAIR THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.I MEAN, I LIKE CHAIR OR NOT CHAIR.
I UNDERSTAND THE CRIME ISSUES.
UM, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE WANTING TO WORK ON YOUR PROPERTY AND BEING ABLE TO, TO MAKE IT LIVABLE AND HABITABLE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION OR IF ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.
UH, SO THE, THE VACANT PART OF THAT PROPERTY, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL UNITS WOULD BE ADDED THERE? SO IT'S ABOUT 1.2 ACRES.
SO UNDER THE R FOUR DISTRICT, YOU CAN PROBABLY DO SOMEWHERE MAXIMUM BETWEEN 35, MAYBE 40 UNITS.
BUT THERE'S SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN OUR UDC PARKING, UH, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.
THE APPLICANT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, TO GET THE FULL EXTENT OF THAT.
SO WHILE IT MIGHT A BLANK, A BLANK PIECE OF LAND MIGHT SEEM LIKE THEY COULD PUT A LOT OF UNITS THERE.
ONCE YOU START ACTUALLY BUILDING AND DESIGNING UP, UP TO OUR CODE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE AGAIN, IF YOU ONLY CONSIDER THE VACANT LAND.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THAT EXPANDS THIS POP POSSIBILITIES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THERE'S SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL DENY PLZC 20 25 0 1 4 0 I SECOND AS A RECOMMENDATION DENIAL FROM COMMISSIONER OUTLAW.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARBONE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THAT IS, UH, SO THIS ITEM WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF THE NILE TO CITY COUNCIL.
AGAIN, YOU WILL GET AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE IF YOU'RE WITHIN THAT 200 FOOT BUFFER.
IF NOT, UH, THE SIGN THAT WAS POSTED WILL REMAIN.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO SEND IN COMMENTS.
UM, AND THIS WILL HAVE A FINAL ACTION ITEM AT CITY COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE.
OH YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE WON'T BE AN ADDITIONAL MAIL NOTICE.
UH, BUT WE WILL TAKE THOSE ALL THE WAY UP TO NOON BEFORE THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION.
THERE WILL BE A, IS THERE A DATE PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS? 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
JUST TO REMIND, IS THERE A, DO YOU HAVE AN ANTICIPATED DATE OR NOT YET? UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN, UM, SEPTEMBER.
SO I THINK THAT'S SEPTEMBER 2ND.
[E. PLPDD20250125 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 36.2 acres of land from Planned Development District (PDD) to Planned Development District (PDD), generally known as 13011 Lower Seguin Road, at the intersection of Lower Seguin Road and Red Bud Canyon, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Numbers 310011, 1436811, 1437570, 1394925 City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
2 0 2 5 0 1 2 5.HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 36.2 ACRES OF LAND FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDD TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDD, GENERALLY KNOWN AS 1 3 0 1 1 LOWER SINE ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOWER SGU ROAD AND REDBUD CANYON, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS 3 1 0 0 1 1 1 4 3 6 8 1 1 1 4 3 7 5 7 0 1 3 9 4 9 2 5.
CITY ASSURES, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I, MAY I INTERRUPT? JUST VERY QUICKLY, THE VOTING SYSTEM IS LOCKED UP AGAIN.
UM, LEMME KNOW IF IT'S, YEAH, WELL, WELL, VOTING SYSTEM IS LOCKED UP AGAIN MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN PUSH FORWARD WITH THE, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW YEAH, LET'S PUSH FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION AND WE WILL GET TO THAT.
ARE Y'ALL, CAN Y'ALL SEE IT ON THE SCREEN? NO.
THIS IS P-L-P-D-D 2 0 2 5 1 0 1 2 5.
SADDLEBROOK RANCH, TWO PDD SAMUEL HAAS SENIOR PLANNER.
PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN.
IT IS ALL THE PARCELS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS ZONE CHANGE.
THE LOWER SINE ROAD IS JUST TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS THE COUNTY LINE AND ALSO THE OW CREEK.
UH, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 36.2 ACRES.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PDD AND IT IS UNDEVELOPED AND IT'S ALSO, IF YOU SEE HERE IN THIS LITTLE SQUARE AREA, IT'S BEING USED AS DRAINAGE.
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SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, UH, THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SADDLEBROOK RANCH IS WHAT IT'S CALLED, UH, WAS APPROVED AS ORDINANCE 21 S ZERO SIX ON MARCH 21ST, 2021.IT HAD A MIXTURE OF LOT SIZES, HOUSING TYPE AND USES, INCLUDING A 3.3 ACRE SITE DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF LOWER SINE ROAD SADDLEBROOK RANCH TWO PDD WILL ADHERE TO THO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORIGINAL PDD WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES, WHICH I'LL GO INTO.
SO HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN OF THE ORIGINAL PDD.
YOU'LL SEE, UH, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO RAFT BURNETT.
BUT THE SUBJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THOSE PARCELS THAT WERE OUTLINED THERE IS REALLY IN THIS AREA.
AND YOU'LL SEE HOW THEIR DETENTION POND IS LAID OUT AND HOW THEY HAVE A PROVISION HERE FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE.
SO SADDLEBROOK RANCH TWO PDD WILL CONSIST OF A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R TWO, UH, THAT'S KNOWN IN THE PDD DOCUMENT AS SF 70.
UH, THOSE LOTS ARE 70 BY ONE 18.
UH, A TRADITIONAL, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R TWO LOT IS 70 BY ONE 20, SO THEY'RE INCREASING THAT BY TWO FEET.
UM, THEY'RE ADDING LOTS TO, TO THIS UNIT OR TO THE CONCEPT PLAN ANYWAY.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL AND REARRANGE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DETENTION POND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY HERE, WHEREAS YOU HAD THIS LITTLE COMMERCIAL AREA AND NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND THEN KIND OF USE THAT AS DETENTION AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO ADD SOME MORE LOTS OVER HERE.
ON JULY 25TH, 2025, A TOTAL OF FIVE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.
SO FAR WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, ZERO RESPONSES.
ONE SIGN WAS ADDITIONALLY PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, UH, ZONING EXHIBIT HERE.
UH, NOT A LOT TO SEE PDD TO PDD.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, WERE ACTUALLY USING SECTION 21 5 10 F CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN OUR, UH, IN ARTICLE FIVE.
SO, NUMBER ONE, WHETHER PROPOSED PDD IMPLEMENTS POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.
SO THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IT'S ATTENDED FOR A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TYPES AND COMPLEMENTARY COMMERCIAL SERVICES TO CREATE A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS REQUEST IS REMOVING THAT COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
UH, STAFF FEELS THAT THE ORIGINAL PDD IS MORE ONLINE WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, UH, THIS, BY REMOVING THAT COMMERCIAL PORTION, IT IS ACTUALLY WORKING AGAINST THE, IN THE INTENT AND THE POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN.
NUMBER TWO, WHETHER TO PROPOSE PDD PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND EFFICIENT, HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO AGAIN, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS IN DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE LOWER SAGA CORRIDOR.
THIS INCLUDES RHINE VALLEY, CARMEL RANCH, THE ORIGINAL SADDLE BROOK, WHICH IS IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
MONTEREY MEADOWS, WHICH WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.
JUDAH RANCH, WHICH WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.
SO YOU CAN SEE LOWER SEIN ROAD IS HAVING A LOT OF HOUSES THAT ARE BEING, UH, PLANNED AND CONSTRUCTED AT THE MOMENT OR ALREADY CON COMPLETED.
SO, CONTINUING WITH NUMBER TWO ON THIS CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
SOUTH CHURCH RESIDENTS CITY COUNCIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAVE ALL EXPRESSED DESIRE TO SEE COMMERCIAL SERVICES IN SOUTH SHIRTS.
THE LOSS OF THIS COMMERCIAL PORTION WORKS AGAINST THOSE EXPRESSLY STATED GOALS AND POLICIES.
SO IN STAFF'S MIND, THIS IS NOT ORDERLY, EFFICIENT OR HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT FOR SHIRTS.
NUMBER THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS AND THE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SUCH USES WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE MEDIA AREA OF THE LAND TO BE RECLASSIFIED.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA, A LOT OF THAT RESIDENTIAL.
HOWEVER, HAVING THAT COMMERCIAL USE AT THE CORNER OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IS MORE APPROPRIATE IN STAFF'S DETERMINATION.
NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES IS IN ACCORD WITH ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS STREETS, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWERS, OR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES IN THE AREA.
SO S-C-U-C-I-S-D HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
THE SADDLEBACK RANCH PROJECT AS A WHOLE HAS ALREADY BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, THEY'VE ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER WASTEWATER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL, SUCH AS, UH, LAURA SINE ROAD.
AND THEN ALSO THEY'VE CONSTRUCTED A PORTION OF FM 3 0 0 9, WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS REDBUD CANYON.
NUMBER FIVE, TO WHICH EXTENT THE PROPOSED PDT WILL RESULT IN A SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT THEN COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
SO THIS REQUEST IN STAFF'S DETERMINATION IS NOT SUPERIOR TO CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY A REDUCTION FROM 70 TO ONE 70 BY ONE TWENTIES TO 70 BY ONE EIGHTEENS.
BUT IT IS ALSO REMOVING WHAT, WHAT MADE IT SUPERIOR IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHICH WAS HAVING A COMMERCIAL SECTION IN THE PDD AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IN STAFF'S ORIGINAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THAT ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
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IT WAS QUOTED THAT LIMITED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN A SUPPORT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.SO THAT, THAT WAS A, AN, UH, A DECIDING FACTOR IN OUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IN WHICH THEY'RE TAKING AWAY.
NUMBER SIX, WHETHER ALL APPLICANTS, UH, BACK TAXES OWED TO THE CITY HAVEN'T PAID IN FULL.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, NOR DOES IT AFFECT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, WHETHER OTHER CRITERIA ARE MET, WHICH AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO AGAIN, ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
CITY FIRE SHIRTS, EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE AND HAVE PROVIDED NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.
S-C-U-U-C-I-S-D HAS ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.
THIS REQUEST DOES NOT IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION.
IT DOES NOT PROMOTE ORDERLY, EFFICIENT HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT BY REMOVING THOSE SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSLY DESIRED.
AND THE, IT REMOVES THE UNIQUE AND SUPERIOR ELEMENT OF THE ORIGINAL PDD REQUEST.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF P-L-P-D-D 2 0 2 5 0 1 2 5 AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, BUCK BENSON FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE AERIAL? SURE.
OR DO YOU WANT TO GO TO, I'M GONNA SHOW THE, THE INTER THE INTERSECTION, I GUESS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF THE SECTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
UHHUH, DO I HAVE A POINTER? IS THERE A POINTER? ANY KIND? NO, I DON'T.
BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE THE MOUSE TO DIRECT THE MOUSE.
I WANTED TO GET AT, UM, SITUATED, I'LL BE BRIEF.
UM, I STAFF HAS MADE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT.
UM, THE NET RESULT OF THIS CHANGE, UH, OR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP 15 ADDITIONAL LOTS, UM, 15 ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, OF COURSE WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS PLANNED IN 2021, I THINK THERE WAS CERTAINLY AN IDEA THAT THIS INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, MAYBE VIABLE FOR A COMMERCIAL THREE, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE ACRE COMMERCIAL SITE.
BUT I THINK AS TIME HAS GONE ON AND WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE, IN THIS AREA, WE'VE CONSULTED WITH A LOT OF BROKERS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS.
AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A LITTLE COMMERCIAL CENTER THERE.
I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE TYPICALLY HELP SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A REALITY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH, WITH FINISHING OUT 15 ADDITIONAL LOTS.
I KNOW STAFF HAS, UH, REITERATED A COUPLE TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PLAN IS TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION, WHICH I THINK IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS RIGHT HERE.
AND ALTHOUGH LOWERS ROAD IS STARTING TO GET SOME TRAFFIC, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE, THE, THE NORTH SOUTH PORTION OF THIS TO CREATE THAT INTERSECTION IS YEARS AND YEARS AWAY BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS AREA IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, IT COULD, IT MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED FOR ANYTIME SOON.
I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO GO AND DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ROAD'S GONNA BE BUILT.
I THINK THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE IN MY LIFETIME, IT COULD BE A LONG WAYS DOWN THE ROAD.
SO THAT INTERSECTION THAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO DRIVE THIS WORK, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DRIVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, I, I DON'T THINK IS, IS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD PREFER TO PUT THAT LAND TO USE, DEVELOP 15 MORE LOTS, GET SOME PROPERTY TAXES GOING RATHER THAN JUST LET, LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT FALLOW.
UM, AGAIN, IF, IF, IF THIS WERE VIABLE AND WE COULD DEVELOP IT AS COMMERCIAL, WE WOULD, UM, THAT'S ALWAYS GREAT.
BUT WE, WE DON'T SEE IT BEING VIABLE AT THIS POINT.
AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING 15 LOTS, THE DRAINAGE, NONE OF THE, NONE OF THE MAJOR ELEMENTS OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE GONNA CHANGE.
WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY, ANY, ANY CHANGE WITH DRAINAGE OR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY THINK OF.
I MEAN, IT'S 15 LOTS, VERY FEW VERY TRIPS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'D, WE'D ASK THAT YOU NOT FOLLOW STATUS RECOMMENDATION AND GO WITH OUR, OUR APPLICATION TO APPROVE THE PDD CHANGE THAT BASICALLY ADD 15 MORE LOTS TO A 633 ACRE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY.
UH, I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
UH, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT IS 7 29 IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM.
WELL IT IS SEVEN 30 ON THAT CLOCK, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE
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IT.COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? SAM? UH, REAL QUICK, IS THERE A MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT'S THE, WHAT, WHICH PORTION THEY'RE LOOKING TO? OKAY.
IS THIS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
THIS IS THE BEFORE AND THAT'S THE AFTER.
CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE TIME? I'M SORRY.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER ALLAH? UM, YEAH, COMMISSIONER
SO EARLIER WE SAW STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE PLAN FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY TOOK AWAY A COMMERCIAL LOT IS 100% IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND YET THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ONE.
THOSE ARE RHETORICAL COMMENTS.
SOMETIMES I JUST GOTTA TRY TO VENT A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND.
UH, ANYWAY, UM, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GREATER DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT HERE, UH, NUMBER ONE I'LL THROW A ROCK AT THE DEVELOPER.
THEY WOULD COVER THE CITY OF SHIRTS IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IF THEY COULD.
UM, BUT THAT SAID, UM, IF, IF, IF YOU ZOOM BACK OUT AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON OUT HERE, THE, THE, THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT OUT HERE THAT EVEN HINTED AT, AT A POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WAS THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HOMES DID WE SEE? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING THOUSAND OR MORE HOMES OUT THERE, AND YET THIS IS THE ONLY PDD THAT CAME IN AND SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING HERE NOW THEY DON'T WANT TO.
AND WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD ONE COMMERCIAL SPACE MEAN? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO WITH ALL, YOU KNOW, BEING THE ONLY ONE IN ALL THAT AREA OUT THERE? I I, I, I DON'T REALLY THINK IT MAKES A, A, A, A BIT OF DIFFERENCE TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE DEVELOPER.
ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS? UM, SAM, I KNOW THIS IS A WEIRD THERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE LIKE A, A LARGER ZOOMED OUT VIEW OF THE, OF THE ZONING IN THE GENERAL AREA.
SO THE NEAREST RESIDE OR NOT RESIDENTIAL? THE NEAREST COMMERCIAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING, IT'D BE RIGHT HERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF IF FM 1518 AND SINE.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M GONNA HAVE TO, I I TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER OUTLAW HERE THAT IT'S JUST, I I UNDERSTAND THE SHORT TERM BENEFIT OF HAVING MORE HOUSES.
I THINK THE LONG TERM, I MEAN I CAN ALREADY SEE THE SUP CASE FOR THE GAS STATION COMES IN AND PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GAS STATION.
UM,
IT'S, UM, BUT I JUST, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HAVING JUST A VACUUM OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REMOVE THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
UM, ASSUMING NOTHING CHANGES, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WELL, I HOPE YOU DIDN'T MISUNDERSTAND ME.
I WAS ADVOCATING FOR THE FACT THAT TAKING THAT COMMERCIAL OUT LOT OUT ISN'T GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
YEAH, I'M ADVOCATING AGAINST IT.
I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD ME.
ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS.
DENY I GOT ONE MORE THING AND THEN YEP, GO FOR IT.
UM, I THINK WHOEVER'S GONNA GO BUY A HOUSE OUT THERE IS GONNA DRIVE AROUND AND SEE THIS IS NOT AN HEB FOR A MILE OR TWO OR THREE OR FIVE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY BUY THAT HOUSE IS GONNA BE COM YOU KNOW, CENTERED AROUND THAT.
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LITTLE LOT.I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA PUT A DOLLAR STORE THERE.
UH, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET PRICE 0.4 PLUS A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES 15 HOMES.
IT JUST IS A CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY.
AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND, THE ENTIRE REGION IS INUNDATED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
WHAT THE CHANGE? NO, I DON'T HATE IT.
I JUST, MY OPINION, I, I DON'T, I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE IT, BUT I DON'T HATE IT.
AND SO SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION WHAT THE DECISION, WHAT THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE AT THE TIME.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE PL PDD 2 0 2 5 0 1 2 5.
THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UH, PPDD 2 0 2 5 0 1 2 5 BY COMMISSIONER CARDONE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OUTLAW.
IF THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE REPORT YOUR VOTE.
CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THERE WE GO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A SECONDARY WHAT YOU GOT? SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY OSCAR FROM MY SAID BASICALLY US USING THE, UM, AUTOMATED VOTING IS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S MESSING IT, UPS, MESSING IT UP EVERY TIME.
OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LIKE SHUT DOWN FOR 20 MINUTES AND RESTART EVERYTHING.
SO LET'S JUST DO VOICE VOTES MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WELL, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION? WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A CONTINUANCE, MR. BENSON? YEAH.
I MEAN, I, I I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM OR WHERE THE APPLICANT IS COMING FROM.
UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA GIVE Y'ALL ANOTHER SHOT JUST LIKE WE GAVE THE APPLICANT EARLIER.
SO IF YOU ARE OPEN TO A CONTINUANCE, WE COULD DEFINITELY, UM, WELL OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN I AM.
THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING IN A ROW WHERE WE'VE ONLY HAD SIX MEMBERS.
NO, IT'S CONTINUOUS, IT'S FINE.
WELL IF ANYONE UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, IF THEY SEEM FIT OR SEE FIT TOO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
IIII TEND TO LEAVE IT ON, I, I DON'T MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO DISTRACT YOU, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN OLD HABIT.
SO THAT IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER? YES.
TO SEPTEMBER FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARBON.
WE'RE GONNA DO A VOICE VOTE REAL QUICK.
SO WE'LL START ON THE END WITH COMMISSIONER CARBON.
SO THAT IS SIX VOTES AN AFFIRMATION.
THIS ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED TO THE SEPTEMBER, 2025 CHAIR.
CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS? I, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE WILL RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
WE'RE GONNA CONVENE, UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND YOU EXPLAIN THAT.
SO THE, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, IF WE'RE GONNA DENY IT, THEY'D RATHER JUST DENY AND GO TO COUNSEL VERSUS WAIT A MONTH AND POTENTIALLY GET DENIED THEN, OR RECOMMENDED DENIAL THEN.
SO THEY'D RATHER JUST TAKE THEIR DENIAL AND GO TO COUNSEL.
ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RE RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS ACTION TO POSTPONE PLDD 20 25 0 1 25 SECOND.
SO IT'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER OUTLAWS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCMASTER TO RECONSIDER
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PLP DD 2 0 2 525.SO AN I VOTE IS TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM A NAY IS TO LEAVE IT.
I WAS LIKE, WHAT AM I VOTING ON? YEAH.
POINT TO THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
IF I, IF I MAY YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO RESTATE THE MOTION THAT WE ARE VOTING ON.
JUST TO AVOID THE CONFUSION, THE MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
WE HAD POSTPONED IT TO SEPTEMBER WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED WE RECONSIDER.
COMMISSIONER HUGHES MAY I WILL VOTE.
THIS ITEM WILL CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 25TH OR, ALRIGHT, NOW I'M CONFUSED.
WELL, A NAY VOTE WAS A NA WAS AGAINST THE RECONSIDERATION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO AN I VOTE WAS TO RECONSIDER IT? NO, CORRECT.
I, I'M, I'M TOTALLY LOST HERE.
DUE, DUE TO STUPIDITY ON MY PART, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECONSIDER MM-HMM
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? I SECOND.
IT SAYS COMMISSIONER CARBONE SECOND.
SO REAL QUICK TO RECONFIRM FOR EVERYONE, AN I VOTE IS TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM.
SO TO BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION AND NAY VOTE WITH LEAVE IT IS, IS TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE POSTPONEMENT.
SO NOW WE NEED TO TAKE AND WE WILL RECONSIDER THE ITEM AND, AND WE NEED TO, I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMISSION.
I, I COMPLETELY LOST TRACK OF WHERE WE WERE, EVEN THOUGH I AM THE ONE THAT ASKED FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME.
YEAH, BUT NOW SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT SINCE WE CAN JUST PUSH IT FORWARD OF PL.
WHERE ARE WE? ARE WE ON E? ON E, THANK YOU.
THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF P-L-P-D-D 2, 2 5 1 5 BY COMMISSIONER CARBON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HECTOR.
SO A VOTE, AN I VOTE IS TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.
A NAY VOTE IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
SO COMMISSIONER HECTOR OR I'M SORRY, NOT HECTOR CARBO.
HECTOR COMMISSIONER UH, OUTLAW NAY.
COMMISSIONER MCMASTER AYE UH, COMMISSIONER HUGHES? AYE.
SO THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENY.
[F. PLSPU202050174 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a Specific Use Permit to allow a convenience store with gas pumps on approximately 4.2 acres of land, located at the intersection of North Graytown Road & IH 10, known as 11185 IH 10 E, Bexar County Property Identification Number 619232, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
2 0 2 2 0 2 0 5 0 1 7 4.HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS ON APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH KOREATOWN ROAD AND IH 10 KNOWN AS 1 1 1 8 5 IH 10 EAST BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 2 3 2 CITY ASURS, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS THANK YOU COMMISSION.
THIS IS P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 4 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS.
SO THIS HERE IS OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY.
CAN Y'ALL SEE EVERYTHING? WE'RE GOOD.
THIS HERE IS OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN.
IT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH GRAY TOWN ROAD AND IH 10.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES.
IT IS ZONED GB AND IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH COVERED GAS PUMPS.
UH, THIS PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY HAD AN APPROVED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED AS ORDINANCE 23
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S 12 ON JUNE 20TH, 2023.AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT A BUILDING PERMIT NEEDED TO AN APPROVAL WITHIN TWO YEARS.
UH, AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED SO THAT SUP HAS EXPIRED.
THE APPLICANT HAS COME BACK TO GET A NEW SUP BECAUSE THAT ONE HAS PREVIOUSLY EXPIRED AND SO THEY STILL INTEND TO DO THE SAME THING, WHICH IS UH, BUILD A 6,500 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH FUEL CANOPY FOR BOTH PASTURE CARS AND DIESEL TRUCKS.
AND THIS REQUIRES AN SUP IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON JULY 25TH, 2025 FOR PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES AND WE HAVE ONE SIGN THAT WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
NOT A LOT THERE, BUT IT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO WHEN EVALUATING SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, STAFF LOOKS AT UDC SECTION 21 5 11 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONE CHAIN, OH SORRY, WHETHER THE PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIFIED LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS REGIONAL CORRIDOR THAT IS INTENDED FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, REGIONAL DESTINATION, BIG BOX STORES, AND OTHER COMPLIMENTARY COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UH, DOES FIT INTO THAT COMPLIMENTARY COMMERCIAL USES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UH, AS MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS, WHICH IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A SUITABLE AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH OFFER A WIDE VARIETY OF RETAIL SERVICE AND ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS SERVING THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UH, THE SPECIFIC USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT.
NUMBER THREE, THE PRO PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THE SURROUNDING LAND IS MOSTLY VACANT.
THE SPECIFIC USE IS COMPATIBLE DUE TO THAT HIGHWAY FRONTAGE AND UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT AROUND IT.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE OVERALL HEALTH SAFETY, GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY STAFF TO DETERMINE THAT THIS SUP WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY.
NUMBER FIVE, WHERE THE OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND COMP IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS APPLICATION.
UH, FIRE SHIRTS, FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
IT DOES CONFORM TO WITH THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND HAS NO ADVERSE IMPACT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF P LS PU 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 4.
THE APPLICANT CANNOT MAKE IT TODAY.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP.
THERE IS NOBODY HERE SO IT IS STILL 7 52 AND WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.
WELL THERE'S NOTHING I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PL SPU 2 2 5 1 7 4.
I'LL SECOND THAT AS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF P-L-S-P-U 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 4 BY COMMISSIONER CARBON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER.
THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS WILL GO DOWN THE ROW.
COMMISSIONER HUGHES AYE IMI AS WELL THAT IS A SIX OH VOTE IN AFFIRMATION OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ONTO THE
[A. PLPP20250179 Waiver - Consider and act upon a request for a waiver in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the preliminary plat of the Graytown Commercial Subdivision, approximately 4.2 acres of land, located at the intersection of North Graytown Road & IH 10, known as 11185 IH 10 E, Bexar County Property Identification Number: 619232, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.UH, PL PPP 2 0 2 5 1 79 WAIVER CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER IN RELATION TO ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE GREAT TOWN COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION.
APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH GREAT TOWN ROAD AND IH 10 KNOWN AS 1 1 1 8 5 IH 10 EAST.
BE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 2 3 2 CITY OF SHES BE COUNTY, TEXAS.
THANK YOU COMMISSION PO PP 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 9 WAIVER.
SAMUEL HAS SENIOR PLANNER LOOKING FAMILIAR.
SAME PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS CURRENTLY VACANT.
HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT EXHIBIT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE FRONT OF GRAY TOWN ROAD INTERSTATE 10.
SO THE REASON FOR THIS WAIVER REQUEST IS THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A WAIVER TO THE REQUIREMENTS TO CONNECT A SANITARY SEWER AND CONSTRUCT AN ONSITE SEWER FACILITY UH, PER UDC ARTICLE 15, UH, 21 15 3 A, UH, ALL LOTS WITHIN SUBDIVISIONS ARE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS
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AND EXTEND WASTEWATER LINES ENLIST OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CITY AND THE COMMISSION.SO ESSENTIALLY THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION IS A SERRA FACILITY THAT IS ACROSS I 10.
THE CITY DOES HAVE A PLANNED 2030 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR AN EIGHT INCH GRAVITY SEWER LINE ACROSS IH 10, UH, OR I'M SORRY, A LONG IH 10 EAST AND GRAY TOWN ROAD TO CONNECT TO THAT SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM ONCE THAT IS EXTENDED ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
SO THE ENGINEERING HAS PROVIDED A MEMO THAT SUPPORTS THE APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT ONCE THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED, UH, THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO CONNECT TO THAT AND THE DEVELOPER HAS TO AGREE TO AN ESCROW AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME FUNDING FOR THAT FUTURE CONNECTION.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A WAIVER REQUEST WITH THOSE CONDITIONS THAT I MENTIONED, THAT ONCE THE SANITARY SEWER REMAIN IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED TO WITHIN 1500 FEET, THE PROPERTY WILL CEASE THE ONSITE SEWER FACILITY OPERATIONS AND CONNECT TO THAT SANITARY SEWER.
THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING SO ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? NO.
ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PLPP 2 25 1 79 WAIVER SECOND THAT ALL THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON PPP 2 0 2 5 0 1 79 WAIVER.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, UM, COMMISSIONER OUTLAW SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IS THIS WITH THE CONDITIONS OR WITHOUT THE CONDITIONS? GREAT POINT AS YES.
SO THIS IS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF? YES.
[B. PLPP20250179 - Consider and act upon a request for approval of a preliminary plat of the Graytown Commercial Subdivision, approximately 4.2 acres of land, located at the intersection of North Graytown Road & IH 10, known as 11185 IH 10 E, Bexar County Property Identification Number: 619232, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.]
LPP 2 0 2 5 0 1 79.CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLANT OF THE GRAY TOWN COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION.
APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH GREENTOWN RONAN IH 10 KNOWN AS 1 1 1 8 5 IH 10 EAST BEAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 1 9 2 3 2.
CITY OF CHARLOTTES BEAR COUNTY, TEXAS THANK YOU COMMISSION.
THIS IS P LPP 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 9 SAMUEL HAAS SENIOR PLANNER.
AGAIN, SAME PROPERTY NORTH GREAT TOWN ROAD IH 10, APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED GB AND IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
SO THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING A TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT.
IT REQUIRES P AND Z APPROVAL DUE TO THAT WAIVER REQUEST THAT WE JUST HEARD.
AND HERE IS THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT EXHIBIT.
THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS.
THE PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY THE ENGINEERING, FIRE AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS.
THEREFORE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLPP 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 9.
ANY COMMISSIONER, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MOTIONS I'D TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PPP 2 0 2 5 0 1 7 9.
ALL RIGHT, THAT IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CARBONE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER.
AYE AS WELL THAT MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL.
[A. Workshop / Presentation / Discussion from the City of Schertz Economic Development Corporation ]
WORKSHOP PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION FROM THE CITY SHIRTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT
YEAH, YOU CAN JUST DO IT WITH THE, UH, SOME ARROWS.
GREETINGS, BOARD MEMBERS AND CHAIRMAN.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS.
I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY BUSINESS FOR ALMOST 37 YEARS NOW AND I'VE NEVER WORKED FOR A STATE THAT'S GOT SUCH FINE PLANNERS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE HERE.
I TAKE QUESTIONS TO THEM EVERY DAY AND I RELY, UH, VERY HEAVILY ON WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I WAS ASKED TO COME TALK A LITTLE BIT TODAY ABOUT I WISH IT WAS AN
UM, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME TALK TO Y'ALL TODAY ABOUT WHAT THE
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FUNCTION IS OF THE EDC AND KIND OF WHAT WE DO.UM, THOSE ARE THE FOUR OF US UP THERE.
UH, AMY MADISON AS HER DEPUTY, SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT AND NEITHER IS ASHLEY RICHIE.
SHE'S OUR BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION PERSON.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY HIRING A, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND I HAVE 48 APPLICANTS, SO, OR 480 APPLICANTS.
SO THEY ALL WANT TO COME WORK FOR US.
BUT, UH, WE, WE HAVE, I START OFF ON A PRESENTATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW SHIRTS VERY WELL.
AND I SAY WE ARE AN ODD SHAPED, WE ARE, WE ARE A BACKWARDS Z BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT US, IF YOU TRY TO DRIVE FROM THAT TOP CORNER TO THE BOTTOM CORNER, IT'S A, IT'S A 30 MINUTE DRIVE.
WE HAVE SOME UTILITY ISSUES BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, THE GREAT WORK OF, OF BRIAN JAMES, OUR DEPUTY, UH, CITY MANAGER AND THE PLANTERS, WE ANNEXED A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES THIS YEAR.
UH, WE ARE KIND OF A TWO FRONT CITY.
AND NOT MANY CITIES CAN CAN BOAST ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE SET OUR OWN SET OF GOALS PRIOR TO BEGINNING HERE.
OUR GOALS WERE PRIMARILY LET'S GO OUT AND ATTRACT MANUFACTURING.
LET'S GO OUT AND FIND THOSE BIG GREAT BIG BOXES.
LET'S BRING IN THE COMPANIES THAT DO THE, THE LARGE MANUFACTURING PROJECTS AND MOVE DOWN THE ROAD.
OUR OUR BOARD RECENTLY CHANGED ALL THAT AND THEY STARTED OUT ODDLY ENOUGH WITH THE OPTIMIZING OUR TALENT PIPELINE, WORKING WITH OUR UNIVERSITIES AND OUR COLLEGES.
AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD SAW A LOT OF IMPORTANCE IN, UH, EXPAND INDUSTRY BASE FOR TARGET BUSINESSES.
SO YOU'VE SEEN, UH, PUSH RECENTLY FOR US TO KIND OF GET INVOLVED IN, IN SOME RETAIL PROJECTS.
UH, QUALITY OF LIFE IS WHAT WE DO FOR PARKS.
AND YOU RECENTLY PROBABLY SAW OUR, OUR SOCCER FIELD LIGHTS THAT WE DID.
AND, UH, WE WERE REALLY PRETTY PROUD OF THAT.
AND THEN PRIORITIZING OUR REAL ESTATE ASSETS IS JUST A NICE WAY OF US TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WATER OR SEWER OR STREETS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO, WE'RE A FOUR B UH, CORPORATION.
UH, SECTION 5 0 1 AND 5 0 5 LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE KIND OF DICTATES WHAT THAT IS.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE DIRECT INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES THAT PROVIDE PRIMARY JOBS.
AND PRIMARY JOBS ARE, ARE A, A COMPANY THAT MAKES SOMETHING AND SHIPS IT OUT OF THE REGION.
AND THEN THE MONEY FROM THE SALE OF THAT COMES BACK TO THE REGION AND KIND OF FUNCTIONS IN THE, IN, IN THE, IN THE AREA.
WE CAN ALSO DO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS FOR ANY BUSINESS.
SO IF IT'S A, A RETAIL PROJECT OR, UH, ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT'S NOT JUST A PRIMARY JOB.
AND THEN QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH OUR SOCCER FIELDS AND OUR PARKS.
AND WE HAVE TAKEN ON, UM, RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR PARKS, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS TOO.
SO, THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT US, WE'RE A CITY DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE, WE'RE MANAGED WITHIN THE CITY.
UH, WE, ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR THINGS THAT WE DO, ALL THE MONEY THAT WE PROVIDE, WE HAVE TO DO PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS, WE PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL GOES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, LISTENS TO IT, THEY COME OUT AND THEY RULE ON IT.
UM, WE ALWAYS HAVE A RECAPTURE CLAUSE 'CAUSE SOMEONE ALWAYS SAYS, OH MAN, WHAT ARE YOU GIVING US MONEY AWAY? WE CAN'T GET IT BACK.
WE HAVE RECAPTURE CLAUSES REQUIRED BY LAW THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY DON'T PERFORM LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE GO RECAPTURE THAT MONEY AND WE BRING IT BACK.
UH, WE HAVE A RESERVE FUND MODEL THAT KIND OF MANAGES ALL OF OUR MONEY WORKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE.
SO IF WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA SPAN OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WE HAVE ALL THAT MONEY IN OUR RESERVE FUND MODEL PROGRAM TO WHERE WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS COMING IN, HOW MUCH IS GOING OUT.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE BIG THINGS TO FILL.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF THESE, YOU TALK TONIGHT ABOUT THE CORE FIVE DEVELOPMENT ON THE END.
UH, THAT'S GONNA BE FOUR OF THOSE HUGE BOXES.
IT'S GONNA BE A MILLION, 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TITAN OUT THERE ON DOOR LANE.
THAT'S 312 ACRES, UH, A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE OTHER ONE UP THERE IS ON 35 ACROSS FROM THE OLD GOLF COURSE, AND THAT'S CALLED PARK 35.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE A MILLION SOME SQUARE FEET.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF LARGE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN INTO PROJECTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS.
THE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE CITY TO DO PROJECTS FOR THEM AND THE OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE ONES THAT WE DO FOR, FOR BUSINESSES TO, TO COME INTO THE CITY.
I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM.
I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THEM.
WE GAVE THEM MONEY FOR A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.
IT'S, UH, A SPECS LIQUOR STORE UP ON 3 0 0 9.
WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THEM MONEY FOR A, FOR A SEWER THAT THEY NEEDED.
THEY HAD TO DO A BOAR THAT THEY, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET A A, A RIGHT OR AN EASEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER WITHOUT BORROWING
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IT.SO WE'RE PROVIDING THEM MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TIME.
UM, WE HAVE TWO CATERPILLAR PROJECTS.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE VERY SIZABLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE A, A BUSINESS AND I SEA THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF.
UH, WE HAVE HAD THREE PROJECTS WITH THEM AND WE HAVE TWO OF 'EM GOING RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE PROJECT HYDRA AND PROJECT AQUAS.
AND IF YOU ARE, IF YOU WANNA KNOW ONE THING ABOUT US, WE COME UP WITH THESE CRAZY NAMES FOR THESE THINGS.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT PASSES, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THE CRAZY NAME TIED WITH WHAT THE ACTUAL BUSINESS IS.
AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE PEOPLE IN FINANCE, THEY, THEY GET UPSET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT CATERPILLAR HAS LAQUA AND HYDRA AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, THEY'RE BRINGING IN A NEXT GENERATION PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AN ENGINE BLOCK.
UH, THE BLOCKS ARE MANUFACTURED HERE, THEY'RE SHOT OVER TO SEINEN, SEINEN THROWS 'EM TOGETHER AND, UH, THEY GO DOWN THE ROAD WITH THEM FROM THERE.
GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOWN CREEK SEWER LINE.
UM, THIS, THE EDC STEPPED UP A WHILE BACK AT THE CITY'S REQUEST TO DO A FUNDING STUDY, UH, TO LOOK AT WHAT A SEWER WOULD BE LIKE FOR THE NORTH SIDE OF 35.
THERE WAS A LOT OF BUSINESSES UP THERE, UH, THAT DIDN'T HAVE SEWER.
THERE WAS A LOT OF VACANT LAND THAT WOULDN'T BE VACANT IF IT HAD SEWER.
SO THE EDC FUNDED THIS STUDY TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET SEWER TO THAT ENTIRE AREA.
TO THE LEFT OVER HERE IS 3 0 0 9.
YOU'VE PROBABLY RECOGNIZED THE, THE FOUR OAKS LANE DOWN THERE IN THE CORNER.
AND THEN UP HERE ON THE END IS ABBEY ROAD.
UM, THAT'S WHERE THE LAST MANHOLE IS.
AND FINALLY THAT FREEZING HOT LIFT STATION.
SO THAT'S THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.
WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS CURRENTLY IN THAT WATERSHED THAT WILL BE FUNDING THIS STUDY.
UM, BOOMERANG AND LOVETT, THEY HAVE TWO BUSINESSES ON 2252.
ONE'S A COLD STORAGE AND ONE IS A JUST A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION AND THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF SPEC.
BUT WHAT THE EDC DOES IS WE FUND THOSE PROJECTS BY THEM BUILDING IT, MEETING CERTAIN BENCHMARKS, AND THEN WE PAY THEM, WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR, FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF 2252 TO ABBEY ROAD.
SO THE MOST NORTHERN PORTION OF IT.
THEN WE HAD A GROUP COME ALONG CALLED THE EAST GROUP, AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SOME BUILDINGS OFF OF LOOKOUT ROAD AND THEY WANT TO DO MORE OF 'EM.
SO THEY'RE OFF OF 3 0 0 9 IN BETWEEN THE TWO RAILROAD TRACKS.
UH, WE HAVE THE SAME AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THE REMAINDER OF THAT SEWER AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD FROM 3 0 0 9 TO 2252.
ONCE THEY GET IT BUILT AND THEIR BUSINESS IS OPEN, THEN WE'LL PAY THEM THE MONEY THAT IT TOOK FOR THEM TO BUILD THAT.
SO IT'S ALWAYS A REIMBURSEMENT.
THEY DON'T GET ANY MONEY UNTIL THEY PERFORM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, THEY SEE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS COMING IN.
THEY SEE KIND OF ALL THE EXCITEMENT.
TYPICALLY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR RETAIL, RIGHT? BUT WE DID SOME INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS.
WE DID THIS ROADWAY, UM, RIPS CHRYSLER OR CHRYSLER, WHOEVER NAMED IT, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, WE DID THE ROADWAY ITSELF, WHICH INCLUDES WATER, SEWER, SIDEWALKS, CURB GUTTER, UH, SIGNAGE.
WE ALSO DID IN, UH, SOME SIGNAGE IMPROVEMENTS AT THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS OF, OF SHIRTZ PARKWAY AND LER.
AND THEN, UH, 35 AND AND SHIRTZ PARKWAY.
UM, WE PAID THEM BACK ALREADY HALF OF IT, THEY GOT HALF OF THE MONEY WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR THEM TO GET THAT ROADWAY ACCEPTED.
THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY WILL COME BACK TO THEM IN THE EQUIVALENT OF SALES TAX PRODUCED BY THE CITY OR PRODUCED BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN THE SALES TAX THAT THEY RECEIVE, WILL WILL REIMBURSE THEM WITH THE EDC FOUR B SALES TAX MONEY.
SO THE CITY'S NEVER ADD ANYTHING.
LASSIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A SMALL, SMALL BUSINESS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.
AGAIN, IT'S A RETAIL PROJECT, SO WE CAN'T DIRECT INCENTIVIZE A RETAIL PROJECT, BUT WE HAD SOME WATER ISSUES THAT, THAT, UH, THE CITY DIDN'T REQUIRE.
THOSE TWO BUSINESSES, THAT CHURCHS BANK AND TRUST AND THE MINIMART OR CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE CORNER THERE TO EXTEND WATER ACROSS.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE, WE'VE STEPPED UP AND WE'RE GONNA BE FUNDING THAT ENTIRE WATER LINE ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE LOS PALIS.
ONCE THEY GET IT ACCEPTED BY THE CITY, WHICH IT'S FINALIZED, NOW WE'LL PAY THEM BACK HALF OF THE MONEY.
AND THAT'S FOR THE, FOR THE, THE, THE LINEAR FEET FROM CHURCH, BANK AND TRUST AND THE, AND THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
WHEN THEY OPEN FOR BUSINESS, THEN WE GIVE 'EM BACK THE MONEY FOR THE WATERLINE THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT.
AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT HALF OF IT.
SO THAT'S THE JOHN'S FAMILY, A REALLY GOOD FAMILY, KNOWN THEM FOREVER.
UH, THEY'RE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THE REGION AND THEY CAME TO US FOR THIS AND WE WERE HAPPY TO DO IT.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTIONS WE MAKE TO THE CITY.
UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS,
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WE'VE DEDICATED $12 MILLION TO HELP THE PARKS OUT.AND AGAIN, THAT'S MONEY THAT THE TAXPAYERS WON'T HAVE TO GO TO THEIR POCKET BOOKS FOR ALOR.
WE WILL PAY FOR THAT FOR THEM AT A FOUR B SALES TAX WHERE YIELD DON'T HAVE TO SHOULDER THE BURDEN FOR THAT.
SO 12.1 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
THE SOCCER FIELD LIGHTS, HILLTOP PARK, AND THEN, UH, COMMUNITY CIRCLE, WHICH IS BEHIND US, WHICH IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT.
IF, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD WATCH SOME OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DISCUSSION ON IT.
'CAUSE THEY'VE HAD SOME LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S THE ONE DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
UM, MAIN STREET PROJECT TWO IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IT'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE PLEDGED SOME MONEY TOWARDS FOR THE, FOR THE MAIN STREET.
UH, THE, OF COURSE YOU'VE PROBABLY ALL SEEN THE PLANS ADDITIONAL, UH, SIGNAGE, UH, D KIND OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, ROADWAY FACADES, SOME DIFFERENT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT'LL MAKE MAIN STREET LOOK A LOT NICER.
AND THEN FINALLY, LOOKOUT ROAD.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF WORK DOWN THERE.
UM, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD IT DONE BY NOW.
THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUES WITH RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF BLUE BONNET PALACE, AND THEN ALSO UP ON TOWARD DOOR LANE.
THOSE TRUCKS, WHEN THEY START MAKING TURNS, THEY NEED MORE ROOM.
SO, BUT IF YOU SEE FROM THE BOTTOM LEFT PICTURE, IF YOU WIDEN THAT ROAD OUT, WELL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT BRIDGE.
SO IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK ON THAT, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET THAT STARTED THIS YEAR.
AND LOOK OUT ROADS SHOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE JUST DON'T COME OUT OF OUR, OUR POCKETS WITH THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
WE, I CALL IT, WE PUT THE FACTS AND FIGURES IN THE IDEA MACHINE.
AND THIS THING TELLS US KIND OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE SHOULD PROVIDE BACK TO THE BUSINESS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
IT'S A, A PROGRAM CALLED, UH, UH, IMPACT DASHBOARD.
AND YOU PUT THE NUMBER OF JOBS, YOU PUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, YOU PUT THE OVER THE TIME WHAT THE BENEFIT IS, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY JOBS THERE'LL BE, WHAT'S THE SALARIES.
AND THEN IT GIVES NOT JUST A BENEFIT YOU CAN SEE TO THE CITY, BUT IT GIVES THE BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALSO.
AND IT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT HOW, HOW THAT WILL PAY ITSELF OFF AS YOU PAY THE BUSINESS OFF.
AND I SHOW YOU GUYS THIS, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO MEMORIZE IT OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE JUST DON'T, OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD, WE SAY WE'RE GONNA JUST PROVIDE 'EM THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
SO WHERE'S MY CRACKER BARREL? AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, RIGHT? WE, WE HAD, I LISTENED TO THE MEETING WHEN I THINK, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN OUTLAW SAID THEY CAN'T GET MY RESTAURANT THAT I WANT.
AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS RECENTLY WE, WE HAVE, UH, TAKEN A BIG STEP TOWARDS ATTRACTING A LOT MORE RETAIL THAN WE HAVE.
WE HADN'T HAD A REALLY STRONG RETAIL SUCCESS IN 20 YEARS SINCE, UH, WALMART AND HEB AND BOTH OF THOSE AREAS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS OF 3 0 0 9, UH, KIND OF TOOK SHAPE.
SO THIS AREA RIGHT THERE AROUND THAT CHURCH STATION IS INTENDED TO BE OUR NEXT, UH, RETAIL PROJECT IS SIGNIFICANT.
AND IF YOU'VE SEEN THE COVERAGE THAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY IN MY SAN ANTONIO HAS HAD A, HAS HAD AN ARTICLE OUT JUST THIS MORNING.
SO, UM, I TELL PEOPLE I CAN'T WIGGLE MY NOSE LIKE BEWITCHED AND JUST MAKE A CRACKER BARREL SHOW UP.
THESE, ALL THESE RETAILERS, THEY HAVE A GROUP OF SITE SELECTORS THAT ARE OUT HERE DAY AND NIGHT, AND THAT'S ALL THEY REALLY DO FOR 'EM.
THEY'RE THEIR RETAIL PERSON, THEY'RE THEIR REAL ESTATE INDIVIDUALS.
AND THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY LOOK FOR SITES.
UM, WE CONTRACT WITH THE GROUP CALLED RETAIL COACH.
WE PAY THEM MONEY, THEY ENTER THE MARKET FOR US TOO, AND THEY GO TRY TO FIND RETAILERS THAT ARE WANTING TO COME TO OUR REGION.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF RETAILERS, WHAT THEIR PROFIT MARGINS LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO WE DEAL A LOT WITH, UH, DEVELOPERS, LEASING AGENTS AND SITE SELECTORS.
UM, THIS YEAR WAS ALMOST, I THINK IT WAS MY 33RD, UH, TIME TO GO TO AN ICSC CONFERENCE.
SO ICSC IS A, IS A INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL OF SHOPPING CENTERS.
IT'S WHERE ALL THE RETAILERS GO AND THEY DO A LOT OF DEALS THERE.
UM, SO IF YOU ASK YOURSELVES, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO AS A BOARD ON THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION TO HELP WITH THE ATTRACTION OF THESE BUSINESSES, FRIENDLY UDC AND HAVING COOPERATIVE PRACTICES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXAMPLE I WILL GIVE YOU IS WE, A LOT OF THESE, A LOT OF THESE RETAILERS, THEY'RE SO SUCCESSFUL AND THEY'RE SO SET IN THEIR WAYS THAT IF, IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING COME ALONG WITH THEIR DESIGN THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR CITY, THEY'LL GO TO THE NEXT CITY AND FIND ANOTHER LOCATION, RIGHT? WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THESE OUTSTANDING PLANNERS.
AGAIN, I HATE TO BRAG ON 'EM ALL THE TIME, BUT WE RECENTLY HAD THAT SAME ISSUE WITH A TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN, SEEN COME SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON THAT WITH SOME OUTDOOR STORAGE.
UM, TRACTOR SUPPLY HAD CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
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KIND OF DIDN'T ALLOW IT EXACTLY.IT DIDN'T SPEAK EXACTLY TO IT.
SO WE ROLLED OUR SLEEVES UP, THE PLANTERS WENT TO WORK AND THEY, AND THEY MADE IT WORK SO THAT THAT TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY COULD GO WITH THAT LOCATION THAT THEY PICKED ANOTHER NEIGHBORING CITY.
UM, TOLD THEM, NO, YOU CAN'T GO IN THAT ONE LOCATION.
AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T WANT THOSE LOCATIONS AND TRACTOR SUPPLY WALKED ON THEM.
SO LOOKING AT WHAT COOPERATIVE PRACTICES ARE AND THEN HAVING FRIENDLY UDC CODES, UH, YOU SEE IT MENTIONED SOMETIMES LIKE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE, A LOT OF BUSINESSES SEE A LOT OF VALUE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THEIR SIGNAGES THAT THEY CAN SEE FROM A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IF, IF CITIES RESTRICT THOSE, A LOT OF TIMES THOSE BUSINESSES GO TO THE NEXT CITY DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THEN FINALLY, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SPEED TO MARKET.
UH, WHEN THEY MAKE A DECISION THAT, HEY, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE CITY OF SHIRTS, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY DON'T GET TIED UP IN A, IN A TWO YEAR PLATING ISSUE.
AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN IT STARTS GOING THROUGH THE INSPECTIONS AND PERMITTING THAT IT GOES THROUGH VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND VERY, VERY SMOOTHLY.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THESE RETAILERS LOOK FOR AND THAT THE TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANIES AND THE CRACKER BARRELS OF THIS WORLD THEN HOPEFULLY WILL COME TO YOUR CITY AND NOT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY, TRADER JOE'S IS THE NEXT BIG ONE.
ANYBODY WHERE'S OUR TRADER JOE'S OR TRADER JOE'S? I KNOW RIGHT? TRADER JOE'S ARE, ARE RIGHT NOW ARE EVALUATING A THOUSAND SITES AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF OPENING A THOUSAND STORES.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SITES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE.
THEY ALL HAVE DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THE REGION THAT THEY KNOW WILL MAKE THEM A SUCCESS.
AND THEY JUST GO TO THOSE SITES RIGHT THERE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS LEFT WANTING A TRADER JOE'S.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT WHEN WE WENT TO ICSC THIS YEAR, I WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THESE ARE THE BUSINESSES, THE LOCATIONS THAT WE WERE KIND OF, UH, BARKING FOR.
I THINK WHAT YOU ALL SAW TONIGHT IS THE NEXT FRONT IS GONNA BE THE I 10 AREA.
ONCE THAT HEB GOES UP AT THAT CORNER, UH, THE FOLKS AT CORE FIVE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO MARKET THAT 20 ACRES UP FRONT TO RETAIL.
AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE ONE CONTINUOUS SHOPPING CENTER UP I 10 HOPEFULLY.
SO IF Y'ALL ASK, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO GET YOU A CRACKER BARREL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE MAKE, WE SAVE SOME ROOM UP ON I 10 WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME NICE RESTAURANTS.
SO THIS IS MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
I, I TELL EVERYBODY THAT'S MY CELL PHONE AND THAT I'VE HAD THAT CELL PHONE NUMBER SINCE I WAS A PATROL SERGEANT, UH, 22 YEARS AGO.
SO EVERYBODY CALLS ME ON IT AND I, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE 'EM NOW.
BUT IF NOT, PLEASE TAKE MY NUMBER DOWN AND GIMME A SHOUT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT 'EM.
I KNOW THIS QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER OUTLAW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR RESTAURANT? HE'S OFF THE CRACK OF THE, YOU GOTTA TELL US NOW.
NO, I, I JUST, THAT WAS VERY LIGHTENING.
YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF HAD A VAGUE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, WHAT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOES, BUT UH, THAT WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
YEAH, I'M JUST REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE GOING, WE'VE STUCK FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE, WITH THE MANUFACTURING SIDE AND I THINK THAT I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN SHORT SOUTH AND THE AREA THAT WHY SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS SOMEPLACE ELSE AND WHEN ARE WE GETTING OUR STUFF? AND I'VE, AND THEY'VE BEEN LIKE, WELL, YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IT'S LIKE, WELL THAT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, BUT I'LL LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS.
I MEAN, I KNOW, UM, CROSS FIND HAS A SECTION FOUR THAT'S OPEN THAT'S GONNA GO FOR COMMERCIAL.
I KNOW WHAT THE I 10 WHEN IT, WHEN IT ACTUALLY FINISHES IS GONNA BE A BOOM FOR US.
AND IT'S, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING TOWARDS MORE RETAIL.
WE CAN TAKE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE EARNED FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CITIZEN, THE CITY ARE USED IN THE CITY WHERE WE CAN BETTER HELP EVERYONE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, OUR, OUR FOUR B SALES TAX MONEY IS A HALF A PENNY OF EVERY DOLLAR SPENT COMES TO US.
AND THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE RESIDENT'S MONEY.
THAT'S PEOPLE UP AND DOWN 35 THAT STOP INTO WALMART AND BUY A FOOTBALL AND THEN HEAD BACK TO SAN ANTONIO.
THAT'S THEIR MONEY FOR THE MOST PART.
SO WE'RE USING THOSE, THE TRANSIENT DOLLARS COMING THROUGH OUR CITY, COMING TO OUR CITY TO BUY STUFF.
AND THE, IN THE OLD DAYS, THE BEST RESIDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT COME TO YOUR CITY, SPEND MONEY AND GO BACK HOME AND SOMEWHERE ELSE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T USE YOUR SERVICES.
THEY PROVIDE TO YOUR, TO YOUR ECONOMY.
AND THEN YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TO, TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT DO USE YOUR SEARCH, SIR, I SAW ON YOUR MAP FOR THE CER UH, SHIRT STATION, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF, UH, NAMES FILLED IN, BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO A BUNCH OF AREAS WHERE THERE WASN'T A NAME FILLED IN.
WHEN CAN WE ANTICIPATE THE REST OF THOSE
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LOTS OR THOSE STOREFRONTS, UH, BEING FILLED WITH, UM, ACTUAL COMPANIES? WHAT I WILL SAY IS YOU'RE VERY, YOU'RE GETTING VERY, VERY CLOSE.I GOT A, A RECENT MAP FROM 'EM TODAY.
IF IT'S NOT ALREADY LEASED, IF IT'S ON THEIR MAP AND IT SAYS LEASED, THAT BUSINESS WILL BE GOING IN THERE.
THEY, THEY HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR A LETTER OF INTENT.
THAT MEANS THEY PROVIDE LETTER INTENT TO THEM AND THEY'RE COMING, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME HOOPS FIRST.
THERE'S ANOTHER LINE THAT SAYS AT LEASE.
SO THEY'RE IN THE LEASING PROCESS GOING THROUGH, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY FEW OF THOSE BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT ARE, THAT SAY, AVAILABLE ANYMORE.
UH, THE, THE JUNIOR ANCHORS ON BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW, HOME DEPOT WASN'T ON THAT LIST, BUT WE WERE SINCERELY HOPEFUL THAT IT'S COMING.
THEY WERE ANOTHER ONE THAT THEY'D BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET THE SIGNAGE APPROPRIATE FOR HOME DEPOT.
THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE.
SO WE AS A CITY HAVE TO JUST KIND OF OUT, KINDA WEIGH, WEIGH THAT OUR NEEDS AGAINST THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESS.
SO I, I JUST SAW SOMETHING TODAY, YESTERDAY AND, AND I THINK IT WAS ON FACEBOOK.
UM, THERE WERE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSTS ABOUT SHIRT STATION AND UH, ONE OF THEM, UM, WAS KIND OF A GRAPHIC.
IT, IT, IT SHOWED SOME THAT ARE DEFINITE AND THEN UP IN THE CORNER THEY HAD SOME, THESE ARE SOME WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO IT WAS, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE, AND I'M NOT SAYING MISINFORMATION, BUT THEY'RE NOT SOLID INFORMATION.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, NO, THIS, THIS WAS, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS FROM THE CITY ITSELF OR THE, UH, DEVELOPER.
SO, UM, YEAH, A LOT OF TIMES THEIR LEASING AGENTS KIND OF PUT THINGS OUT TOO TO KIND OF GET SYNERGY AND EXCITEMENT GOING.
AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON THERE.
THERE USED TO BE A COLD STONE CREAMERY ON THERE AND THEN THAT, THAT THING IS NOT THERE ANYMORE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
UH, THERE WAS A SWIGS ON THERE THAT I KNOW HAS, THEY HAVE, HAVE KIND OF PULLED OUT.
SO THERE THERE'RE SOMEWHAT RELUCTANT TO POST THINGS ON THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO, TO GET THE CAT BACK IN THE BAG SOMETIMES.
WELL, ONE MORE COMMENT, SCOTT, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID WHAT, BUT WATCHING SHIRT STATION BLOSSOM, WHILE SO MUCH OF THE UM, SLO TRACK THERE WITH TICOS JUST SEEMS TO HAVE, UH, STAGNATED.
I MEAN THERE'S SOME WORK GOING ON NOW, BUT I REALLY THOUGHT I'D SEE THEM FILL UP BEFORE I SAW ANYTHING IN SHIRTS.
SO IF YOU GUYS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, PROBABLY THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DYNAMICS TO THAT SLO TRACK TOO.
BUT I THINK SINCE OURS HAS BEEN GOING, SLOS HAS, HAS RECEIVED A LITTLE MORE ACTIVITY TOO.
AND, AND ONE THING JUST POPPED IN MY MIND.
THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING RIPS CROSS THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE GO TO EVO.
WE GO AND COME THAT WAY INSTEAD, INSTEAD OF GOING OUT TO 35 FOR SURE.
AND THERE'S MORE EXCITEMENT ON THAT TOO.
'CAUSE RIP CHRYSLER'S GONNA CONTINUE, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE IT IS IN OUR FUTURE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THANKS TO OUR WONDERFUL PLANNERS.
'CAUSE I, I URGE ANYBODY TO GIMME A CALL ANYTIME.
I GOT HALFWAY THROUGH IT AND HAD TO BORROWED IT.
WELL, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.
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