[ Call to Order]
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OKAY, THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025 IS NOW IN SESSION.
FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD WILL, WILL LEAD US WITH THE OPENING PRAYER AND THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.
PLEASE RISE, LET US BOW ALMIGHTY.
GOD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO MAKE IT HERE SAFELY AS WE GATHER TODAY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF CHURCHS SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE FOR THIS COUNCIL MEETING.
GRANT WISDOM TO THE, TO US AND THE STAFF AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TO UPHOLD THE VALUES OF THE CITY.
BLESS SHIRTS WITH UNITY THAT WE MAY COLLABORATE FOR A COMMON GOOD.
STRENGTHEN THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SUPPORT PROSPERITY OF BUSINESSES, AND SUSTAIN THE WELLBEING OF OUR FAMILIES.
GUIDE US TO GOVERN WITH FAIRNESS, RESPECT, AND COMMITMENT TO SERVICE.
ENSURING OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
MAY OUR WORK REFLECT THE PRINCIPLES THAT DEFINE CHURCHS FOSTERING A COMMUNITY WHERE ALL CAN THRIVE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[ Proclamations]
FIRST ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, SEPTEMBER, 2025, AND COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD WILL BE READING THE PRO PROCLAMATION.MAY I PLEASE HAVE THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FOR NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH? PLEASE, UH, JOIN US AT THE PODIUM.
HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, GOOD.
NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH PROCLAMATION.
I'M SO GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS WITH EVERYTHING THAT KEEPS HAPPENING WITH WEATHER, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO DO THIS.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY OBSERVING THIS.
SO THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH IS OBSERVED EVERY SEPTEMBER TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPARING FOR DISASTERS, THAT COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CHURCH WILL CONTINUE ITS PREPAREDNESS CULTURE WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
AND WHEREAS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH CREATES AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CHURCH COMMUNITY TO FOCUS ON PREPARING FOR ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY, INCLUDING NATURAL AND MANMADE DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS.
WHEREAS INVESTING IN PREPAREDNESS CAN REDUCE FATALITIES, PREVENT PHYSICAL AND ECONOMIC DAMAGE AND AID, AND ACCELERATED RECOVERY AFTER EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITIES.
WHEREAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ENCOURAGES ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE INFORMED, MAKE A PLAN, BUILD A KIT, AND GET INVOLVED IN PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES.
AND WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH THEME IS START A CONVERSATION, UH, TALKING ABOUT BAD THINGS.
THIS COULD HAPPEN SUCH AS DISASTERS.
EMERGENCY ISN'T ALWAYS EASY, BUT WE MUST THINK OF PROTECTING THE PEOPLE WE LOVE BY AVOIDING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO START TAKING STEPS TO GET READY AND STAY SAFE.
NOW, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR OF RALPH GUTIERREZ, I DO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2025 AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND ENCOURAGES ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF CHURCH'S COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN EMERGENCY PLAN AND WORK TOGETHER TOWARD CREATING MORE PREPARED AND A RESILIENT COMMUNITY.
WELL, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AGAIN, UH, HERE TONIGHT TO BRING ATTENTION TO NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND THIS YEAR WE'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW SPECIFIC THINGS, RIGHT? ONE, THAT PREPAREDNESS STARTS RIGHT AT, RIGHT INSIDE OF YOUR HOME.
RIGHT? UH, AND STARTING THAT CONVERSATION THIS MONTH SERVES AS A POWERFUL REMINDER THAT OUR RESILIENCE IS BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION OF JUST THAT RIGHT INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY READINESS.
SUREZ HAS TAKEN INCREDIBLE STEPS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, UH, FROM THE PROACTIVE EFFORTS OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, TO THE ESSENTIAL WORK OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRITICAL, OR SORRY, PUBLIC WORKS AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM, UH, TO THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, RIGHT? ALL OF THIS CREATES A ROBUST RESPONSE AND VERY REACTIVE SYSTEM HERE WITHIN THE CITY.
UH, THE USE OF LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NOTIFICATIONS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS, RIGHT? SO I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU, RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE CITY, RIGHT, TO, UH, SIGN
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UP FOR THESE NOTIFICATIONS, UM, ENSURING THAT CRITICAL INFORMATION REACHES EVERYONE DURING TIMES OF CRISIS.UH, YOU CAN SIGN UP AT SHIRTS.COM/ALERTS.
NOW, AS THIS YEAR'S THEME REMINDS US, RIGHT? PREPAREDNESS IS NOT JUST THE JOB OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM, BUT EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN THAT.
PREPAREDNESS IS ABOUT BEING READY FOR DAILY CHALLENGES THAT WE MAY FACE.
THAT MAY BE I 35 OR I 10 IS SHUT DOWN FOR AN ACCIDENT.
WHICH WAY DO WE GO? RIGHT? UM, HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UH,
UH, BY TAKING VERY SIMPLE LOW COST STEPS AT HOME, UH, WE CAN HOPE TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO WITHSTAND AND RECOVER FROM THESE EVENTS.
IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT, YOU CAN GO TO TEXAS READY.GOV.
AS WE MOVE THROUGH SEPTEMBER, I ASK THAT WE FOCUS ON THREE KEY ACTIONS.
FIRST ONE BEING TO CREATE A FAMILY EMERGENCY PLAN, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, UH, MENTIONED IN THE PROCLAMATION.
SECOND, BUILD THAT EMERGENCY SUPPLY KIT FOR HOME, FOR WORK, FOR YOUR VEHICLE, WHATEVER MAKES SENSE FOR YOU, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
AND, UH, THIRD, RIGHT? JUST GET INVOLVED LOCALLY AND FIND OUT WHERE YOU PLUG IN THE BEST.
UH, SO YOU CAN FIND A STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS FOR THESE ON READY.GOV, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE.
AND THEN BY EMPOWERING EVERY RESIDENT TO BECOME THEIR OWN FIRST LINE OF DEF, UH, FIRST LINE OF, OF, UH, DEFENSE.
WE CAN BUILD A STRONGER, MORE RESILIENT AND READY SHIRTS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGEMENT, CITY COUNCIL, UH, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SPECIAL THANK YOU TO CHIEF ROGERS, UH, FOR ALL OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND IN KEEPING SURE IT'S A SAFE PLACE TO BOTH LIVE AND WORK.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD PREPAREDNESS.
KNOW, HE MENTIONED THE THREE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ONCE A DISASTER HAPPENS IS REUNITING THE FAMILY.
THAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT YOU MUST PLAN IS WHERE ARE YOU GONNA MEET? IF THERE'S A FLOOD, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA MEET? IF THERE'S A TORNADO IN YOUR HOUSE IS DESTROYED, THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN WHERE YOU ALL GET TOGETHER, COME BACK AND MEET SO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, YOUR RELATIVES, OR, OR YOUR FRIENDS ARE SAFE.
SO, AT A MINIMUM, PLEASE PLAN.
UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL NEVER NEED IT, BUT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE IT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PREPARED.
THAT IS A BIT THE NUMBER ONE STEP.
THANK YOU CHIEF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU PROVIDED.
[ Employee Introductions Finance:Alaina Ortiz-Accountant Fleet: Matthew Chappell-Fleet Superintendent Parks & Recreation: Margaret Mikula-Administrative Assistant Police: Jesus Reyes-Police Officer Public Works Utilities: Edgar Estrada-Water/Wastewater Worker I]
WE HAVE EMPLOYEE, UH, INTRODUCTIONS.WE HAVE FINANCE IS OUR FIRST ONE.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE ELENA ORTEZ.
SHE'S OUR NEW, UM, ACCOUNTANT HERE AT CITY OF SHIRTS.
SHE COMES WITH, UH, NINE YEARS EXPERIENCE IN NON-PROFIT, AND SHE IS A PACKERS FAN AND SHE HAS THREE CHILDREN.
ONE IS A MARINE AND THE OTHER ONE IS A FUTURE MARINE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, MR. WILLIAMS. TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MATTHEW CHAPEL.
HE'S OUR NEW FLEET SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, HE GREW UP IN A MILITARY FAMILY.
UM, EVERYWHERE IS HIS HOME, BUT HE CLAIMS TEXAS IS WHERE HE SPENT MOST OF HIS LIFE.
HE GRADUATED FROM CLEMENS IN 95, GOT MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, JESSICA IN 99 JOINED THE AIR FORCE OF 2002, WHERE HE WORKED AS A FIRETRUCK MECHANIC.
THEY'VE ALL SUCCESSFULLY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL.
HOWEVER, HE AND JESSICA ARE STILL WORKING ON THE EMPTY NESTER PART.
AFTER 21 AND A HALF YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE, HE FOUND HIS WAY BACK TO SHIRTS.
HIS HOBBIES ARE CARS, GUNS, MARKET SHOPPING, MUSIC, MORE LISTENING
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THAN PLAYING THESE DAYS AND HE'S EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM SHIRTS.THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
GLAD TO BE PART OF THE TEAM AND EXCITED TO GET THINGS GOING.
NEXT WE HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, MR. WILLIAMS. TONIGHT I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MARGARET MULA.
SHE'S OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, SHE RECENTLY GRADUATED FROM TEXAS A M UNIVERSITY, CORPUS CHRISTI, GO ISLANDERS.
UH, SHE HAS A BUSINESS MANAGEMENT DEGREE AND A MINOR IN POLICY SCIENCE.
WHEN WE INTERVIEWED HER, SHE TOLD US HER LONG-TERM GOAL IS TO BE A CITY MANAGER ONE DAY.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE TRAINING HER FOR THAT ROLE IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK PARKS WILL BE A GREAT FOUNDATION FOR HER.
UM, SHE'S ORIGINALLY FROM THE SHIRTS AREA.
SHE GREW UP IN AUSTIN, BUT CAME BACK TO THIS AREA.
A COUPLE FUN FACTS ABOUT MARGARET.
SHE LOVES MURDER MYSTERY PODCASTS AND LOVES POLAR BEARS.
SHE'S ALREADY DECORATED HER OFFICE WITH POLAR BEARS.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN THE TEAM.
NEXT WE HAVE POLICE MAYOR COUNCILS MANAGEMENT.
I HAVE THE HONOR TO INTRODUCE JESUS REYES.
HE COMES TO US FROM VIVO PD WITH EIGHT YEARS.
UM, HE STARTED WITH US AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST.
HE GREW UP IN HAWAII, BUT HE'S FROM CALIFORNIA.
HE HIS ARMY, I'M SORRY, HIS, UH, PARENTS WERE IN THE MILITARY.
UH, HE HAS A ONE YEAR-OLD SON NAMED JACOB, AND HE IS TRAINING FOR HIS FIRST FULL MARATHON.
HE DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT WANTING TO BE A CITY MANAGER THOUGH, SO SORRY.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
AND FINALLY WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CITY MANAGEMENT.
TODAY I HAVE EDGAR ESTRADA STARTED WITH US IN JULY.
HE COMES WITH 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, NEIGHBORING CITIES IN FROM SAN ANTONIO.
UM, HE WAS BORN IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, HE LIKES PLAYING KICKBALL, SOFTBALL, RUNNING 5K, 10 K WHEN HE IS NOT WORKING, WHEN HE IS NOT BEING ACTIVE, HE LIKES GETTING OUT TO GO TO THE RIVER, WALK, HANGING OUT WITH HIS FAMILY.
UH, HE'S REALLY PASSIONATE IN THIS CAREER 'CAUSE HE LIKES THE FACT THAT HE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KEEPS GETTING WATER DELIVERED TO THEIR HOUSE AND THE WASTEWATER TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR HOUSE.
AND THE ONE THING HE DID WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW IS THAT HE DOES LOVE TACOS AND HE DOESN'T MIND IF SOMEBODY GOES OUT AND BUYS A ONE.
WELL, I SAID THE THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING ME HERE.
AND, UM, I KNOW I RAN WITH YOU FIVE KI THINK IT WAS A BEAT CANCER.
AND I KNOW, UM, MY TEAM KIND OF BEAT YOUR TEAM IN KICKBALL.
WERE, WERE YOU BEHIND ME OR IN FRONT OF ME?
[ City Events and Announcements Announcements of upcoming City Events (B.James/S.Gonzalez) Announcements and recognitions by the City Manager (S.Williams) Announcements and recognitions by the Mayor (R.Gutierrez)]
WE'LL MOVE ON.WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING EVENTS.
UH, THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH, UH, WE HAVE THE SHIRTS FALL HOMETOWN HARVEST, THAT'S 9:00 AM TO 1:00 PM AT PICK PARK IN THE LARGE PAVILION.
UH, THE NEXT DAY, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH.
UH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP IN ADVANCE FOR THAT.
UM, THAT'S AT 7 0 3 OAK AS WELL.
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, UH, PARKS IS DOING THE NATURE DISCOVERY SERIES AT CRESCENT BEND.
9:00 AM TO 1130, UH, AM AND THAT'S AT 12 8 0 5 WEST SCHAFER ROAD.
AND THEN OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS, UH, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. WILLIAMS. UH, JUST WON A N MAYOR, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO LIZZIE BERTIA
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FOR PROMOTING FROM SENIOR LIBRARIAN TO OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR.ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY THE MAYOR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SO WE'LL MOVE ON.
[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE HEARING THE RESIDENTS.THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH PERSON IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND WE ASK BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS NOW.
WE DO HAVE SIX PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TODAY.
YOU MAY SPEAK DURING THE HEARING, THE RESIDENCE.
YOU MAY HOLD OFF UNTIL WE COME UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING OR YOU MAY SPEAK AT BOTH.
PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER.
UH, BOB AND KAREN JENISON, YOU, YOU'RE WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR.
I'M NOT ON ANY LIST, BUT I WANNA BE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU.
IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE LIST DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP, SO, RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE CALLING SOMEONE.
BOB JAMISON, 45 0 4 BRUSH CREEK DRIVE AND CHURCHS.
PRETTY SURE Y'ALL REMEMBER ME HERE FROM THE LAST WEEK.
UM, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY EMPLOYEES AND MANAGEMENT AND FELLOW CITIZENS.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, I'M HERE ABOUT, UH, 4,700, UH, 3 0 0 9 ROY RICHARDS AND THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WHEN, WHEN WE LEFT OUR HOME TONIGHT WE HAVE A EIGHT FOOT DROP OFF, 12 FEET FROM OUR BACK FENCE OF SOLID LIMESTONE THAT MEASURES OUT 18 YARDS FROM THE BACK DOOR.
THE BULLDOZER IS ALMOST UNDERGROUND NOW AND THEY'VE RIPPED OUT ALL THE LIMESTONE.
WE NOW HAVE DAMAGE TO OUR HOME.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BUILDING PLANS ARE.
WE'VE REQUESTED INFORMATION THROUGH THE, UH, FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, BUT IT HAS YET TO ARRIVE.
UM, ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE FOUNDATION OF OUR HOME.
WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RISE, BUT THE PINNACLE OF THE LIMESTONE, MEANING IT'S THE DEEPEST SECTION THAT'S BEEN CUT AWAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE.
I'M ALSO NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF A RETAINING WALL WILL BE BUILT.
I HOPE IT'S SOLID BECAUSE ALL THE WATER RUNS OUR DIRECTION AND MOTHER NATURE AND GRAVITY WILL HAVE THEIR EFFECTS.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO YOU FOLKS LAST TIME.
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF NO'S FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED, BUT IT'S IN MY PROFESSION.
I WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT TO TELL SOMEBODY NO WITHOUT AT LEAST TAKING A LOOK.
THERE WAS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO CAME OUT AND SPENT SOME TIME AND VISITED WITH US AND LOOKED AT THE DAMAGE.
I'M NOT HERE BEGGING FOR HELP OR WHATNOT.
I WAS ALSO TOLD TO CONTACT MY INSURANCE COMPANY, WHICH I DID.
AND THEY HAVE FOUND SOME DAMAGE, BUT THEY DON'T COVER FOUNDATION DAMAGE.
UM, PERHAPS MY BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IS THE PING PONG BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SOME PARTS OF THE CITY SAYING, CALL THE POLICE.
I'VE BEEN BOUNCED AROUND AND REALLY HAVEN'T RESOLVED ANYTHING.
I'VE TRIED CONTACTING THE DEVELOPER.
I'VE CONTACTED THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND I'M STILL IN LIMBO.
MAY 12TH, 1962, GEN MACARTHUR GAVE A SPEECH AT WEST POINT.
IT'S CALLED DUTY HONOR COUNTRY.
WE ALL HAVE A DUTY TO EACH OTHER.
WE ALSO SHOULD BE ACTING HONORABLY IN DOING OUR DUTY AND IN PLACE THAT THE COUNTRY BE PLACED THE CITY.
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NAME'S DANA ELDRIDGE.2 6 2 8 GALLON FOX DRIVE CHURCH TEXAS.
WOKE UP SATURDAY MORNING, CHECK AN EMAIL LOOKING FOR SOME SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON AN APPOINTMENT I GOT COMING UP AND MY EMAIL WAS JAM PACKED FULL OF NOTICES FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE FRONTIER WASTE, NOTIFYING EVERYBODY IN ENSURES THAT THERE WOULD BE MONDAY PICKUP.
THE THING ABOUT IT, EACH EMAIL HAS AN INDIVIDUAL'S ADDRESS AND HIS ACCOUNT NUMBER DIDN'T HAVE THEIR NAMES.
I'VE DELETED PROBABLY EIGHT OR 10,000 SO FAR, AND RIGHT NOW MY EMAIL IS FULL 'CAUSE IT CAN ONLY HOLD SO MANY AT A TIME.
AND IT JUST KEEPS COMING FROM THE 29TH OF AUGUST FROM FRONTIER.
UH, WHEN I FOUND OUT, I SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY STAFF ONLY HEARD BACK FROM ONE.
AND THAT WAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.
AND FINALLY I GOT A CALL FROM A MAN NAMED CHRISTOPHER COX AT FRONTIER.
THEY CLAIMED THAT IT WAS THEIR ERROR.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK MY PHONE RIGHT NOW, IT IS JAM PACKED ONCE AGAIN, AFTER HAVING BEEN DELETED OVER AND OVER AND OVER THIS WEEKEND, UM, YOUNG MAN SAID HE'S NOT HAD ANY RESPONSE FROM STUFF GOING ON IN, IN THE CITY.
ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE EXCEPT FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL COUNCILWOMAN HAYWARD.
UH, LATER ON TODAY, I GOT A CALL FROM, UH, A TEXT MESSAGE FROM MR. GUERRERO.
YOU KNOW, GUYS, COMMUNICATIONS, OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY, IT'S GOTTA START HAPPENING.
YOU CAN'T JUST HIDE UP THERE AND SAY, OH, CAN'T SAY CAN, CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
SOME OF THIS STUFF IS GETTING REAL OLD.
I'M GETTING TIRED OF DELETING STUFF.
I CAN ONLY DELETE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIME.
IT TAKES ME A COUPLE HOURS TO DELETE ALL THIS.
AND A COUPLE HOURS LATER IT'S FULL.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN I DON'T KNOW IF WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION WITH THIS GABRIEL PERES.
UH, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MY NAME IS GABRIEL PERALES.
I AM A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WITH THE UNITED STATES SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION'S OFFICE OF DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN LINE WITH YOUR PROCLAMATION REGARDING DISASTER RESILIENCE PREPAREDNESS, I'M REALLY HERE TODAY TO SHARE THAT.
SOME GOOD NEWS, ACTUALLY, FIRST OF ALL, UM, DUE TO THE FLOODING THAT OCCURRED ON JULY 4TH, SBA HAS BEEN ON THE GROUND SINCE JULY 7TH, OFFERING RESOURCES TO THOSE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE FLOODING, WHETHER IT WAS PHYSICALLY IMPACTED OR ECONOMICALLY IMPACTED.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO START OFF WITH IS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AT A TIME OF DISASTER, SBA NOT ONLY HELPS BUSINESSES, BUT WE HELP HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, NONPROFITS, AND BUSINESSES.
SO ANY HOMEOWNER OR RENTER THAT MAY RESIDE IN INSUREDS IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT WAS PHYSICALLY IMPACTED BY THE FLOODING, UM, HOMEOWNERS CAN QUALIFY FOR A LOW INTEREST DISASTER LOAN OF UP TO $500,000 AT A RATE OF ONLY 2.81% OVER THE COURSE OF A 30 YEAR TERM WITH NO PAYMENTS AND NO INTEREST.
RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS ALIKE CAN ALSO QUALIFY FOR UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PERSONAL LOSS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CLOTHING, FURNITURE, AND INCLUDING VEHICLES.
NOW, ANY BUSINESS THAT SUFFERED PHYSICAL DAMAGE CAN QUALIFY FOR UP TO $2 MILLION.
AND THAT'S AT AN INTEREST RATE AS LOW AS 4%, AGAIN, UP TO A THIRD YEAR TERM.
AGAIN, DEFERRED PAYMENTS AND INTEREST FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
LASTLY, ANY BUSINESS THAT MAY BE SUFFERING ECONOMIC INJURY CAN ALSO QUALIFY FOR UP TO $2 MILLION.
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UP TO 30 YEARS AS LOW AS 4% WITH NO PAYMENTS AND NO INTEREST FOR A YEAR.SO WHILE I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY TIME SINCE I GOT HERE ON JULY 7TH OUT IN THE CURVILLE AREA, KIRK COUNTY, NOW THAT I FEEL I'VE ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF MY WORK THERE, MY RESPONSIBILITY NOW LIES IN EDUCATING THE OUTLYING AREAS AND INFORMING THE OUTLINE AREAS.
AND AGAIN, TODAY I GOT THE GREAT NEWS THAT OUR DEADLINE, WHICH WAS THIS THURSDAY FOR APPLICATIONS SEPTEMBER 4TH, JUST GOT EXTENDED TILL SEPTEMBER THE 28TH.
SO IT GIVES INDIVIDUALS, AGAIN, INDIVIDUALS, HOMEOWNERS, BUSINESSES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY.
AND THEY CAN APPLY AT SBA.GOV/DISASTER.
THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH OUR 800 NUMBER OR THEY CAN APPLY AT ANY ONE OF THE CENTERS THAT WE HAVE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, PRIMARILY IN THE HARDER AFFECTED AREAS.
WE HAD ONE IN SINE IN GUADALUPE COUNTY, BUT THAT ONE HAS ALSO JUST NOW BEEN CLOSED DOWN.
BUT THERE ARE RESOURCES AVAILABLE.
THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
NUMBER TWO, I AM ASKING CITY COUNCIL, YOU MAYOR FOR COLLABORATION.
HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN USE THE RESOURCES, THE CHANNELS OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S NEWSLETTERS, EMAILS, PODCASTS, HOWEVER IT IS THAT YOU COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR CON CONSTITUENTS TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE FROM NOW UNTIL SEPTEMBER 28TH BEFORE THE NEXT DEADLINE.
AND SO WE HOPE THAT WITH YOUR COOPERATION, UM, WITH MS. SHEILA'S COOPERATION, WE CAN OFFER YOU SOME FLYERS, SOME INFORMATION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET OUT.
AND ALSO IF THERE'S ANY EVENTS, I I JUST HEARD THE CITY'S EVENTS.
WHETHER IT'S BRINGING OUR STAFF TO, TO HAVE A VENDOR TABLE, WE JUST WANNA KNOW AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE IN CASE THEY NEED HELP AND ASSISTANCE THROUGH SBA.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
ANY, ANY QUESTION? QUESTION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE YOUR NUMBER RIGHT? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I RECENTLY OPENED THE SAFEWAY DRIVING SCHOOL AT 8 1 6 NORTH MAINE.
SAFEWAY'S BEEN DRIVING TRAINING DRIVERS IN TEXAS FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
OUR FOCUS IS ON KEEPING TEENS, ADULTS, AND FAMILIES SAFE ON THE ROAD.
I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, UH, BECAUSE WE SEE DRIVING SAFETY AS A COMMUNITY PRIORITY, NOT JUST A BUSINESS.
OUR SCHOOL CAN BE A RESOURCE FOR THE CITY, WHETHER THEY'RE SUPPORTING SAFETY CAMPAIGNS, PARTNERING WITH SCHOOLS, OR CONTRIBUTIONS TO EVENTS THAT PROMOTE SAFE DRIVING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN SHIRTS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING WAYS WE CAN SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
ROBERT, I BELIEVE IT'S STEFANS.
YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL THE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR? OH, OKAY.
BUT I, I DID WANT TO ASK, I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA AND I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE ANNEXATION, IF, IF THIS WAS GONNA BE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN YES, IT THE MEETING.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA AND I WAS YEAH, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING SO YOU CAN SPEAK DURING THAT TIME TOO, SIR.
WE HAVE, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD, YOU COULD SIGN UP.
UM, GOOD EVENING MAYOR VITI, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGEMENT.
I AM STEVEN LAYTON LIVING AT 1 2, 2, 3, 1.
THIS IS AD HOC BECAUSE I REALLY DID NOT KNOW THAT WE COULD TALK IN TWO PLACES, BUT I HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
THE JLUS JOINT, UH, LAND USE STUDY LISTS 107 LINE ITEMS. ONLY 46 OF THEM ARE SAVED FOR SHIRTS ARE ANNOTATED AS SOMETHING THAT SHIRTS HAS TO CONSIDER.
OF THOSE 46, IF YOU MICRO LOOK AT 'EM AND YOU RECOGNIZE A NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR AREA THAT'S UNDER ETJ,
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WE ARE LOOKING AT FAR LESS THAN 46.IN FACT, I WILL ARGUE ONLY ONE APPLIES.
BUT LET ME TAKE A LITTLE LESS CRITICAL EYE.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS ONE LINE ITEM THAT ESTABLISHES A HEIGHT LIMIT.
THAT HEIGHT LIMIT IN OUR AREA.
IF I'M READING, AND I DID A LOT OF LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S 150 FEET
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA PUT AN ATTACHMENT ON THEIR SMALL LOT HOME THAT REACHES 150 FEET HIGH.
THERE ARE TWO MORE REGULATIONS OR LINE ITEMS THAT TALK ABOUT CRANES.
UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIRDS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEED FOR CRANES ON A LITTLE ONE ACRE LOT.
FINALLY, FROM THAT LIST OF THINGS, THAT SEEMS SILLY TO ME.
EAST OF THE EAST OF THE PROTECTED ZONE, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT, THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR LIMITING THE DENSITY.
WE ALREADY ARE AS WE ARE, WE HAVE A ONE ACRE LOT, TWO ACRE LOT.
I'M NOT THINK SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING ON DENSITY.
SO FINALLY THE ONE ITEM I THINK CAN APPLY TO US.
IT WANTS THE UDC TO INCORPORATE DARK SKY LIGHTING CONTROLS AND ALL IT IS HOOAH ABOUT OUR AREA.
AND THE ETJ AND RANDALL AIR FORCE BASE COMES DOWN.
I BELIEVE ON NO AUTHORITY, I BELIEVE IS ONLY ONE LINE ITEM.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THIS UH, THE, IN THE INFORMATION HE PROVIDED IS ON THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE, THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
WE WILL PROBABLY ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO CONSENT
[ Consent Agenda Items The Consent Agenda is considered self-explanatory and will be enacted by the Council with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless they are removed from the Consent Agenda upon the request of the Mayor or a Councilmember.]
AGENDA ITEMS. OUR CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY AND INFORMATION PACKETS ARE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING.THESE ITEMS REQUIRE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS REQUESTED BY COUNSEL.
AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R ONE 13.
COUNSEL, DO ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE ACTION? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM BROWN.
COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
RIGHT? WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
WE HAVE SIX A'S NO OBJECTIONS.
[3. Resolution 25-R-118 - Authorizing an agreement with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas for medical insurance for plan year 2026 (S.Gonzalez/J.Kurz)]
ITEM, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 R ONE 18 AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF TEXAS FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE FOR THE PLANNED YEAR OF 2026.UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH AN ITEM FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE FOR 2026.
I'M GONNA MAKE THIS PRETTY BRIEF AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROJECT, IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN 2024, WE CAME TO YOU IN LATE 2024, UM, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO SWITCH CARRIERS.
AND SO IN 2025 WE MOVED TO CIGNA FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
UM, WE CONTINUED TO SEE RISING HEALTHCARE COSTS, UM, UNSUSTAINABLE PREMIUMS. AND SO AS A, AS PART OF AN ONGOING EFFORT TO COMBAT THAT, WE DID GO OUT FOR RFP JUST FOR THE LINE OF MEDICAL INSURANCE.
WE ISSUED THE RFP AND WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS.
ONE FROM CIGNA, OUR CURRENT CARRIER, ONE FROM BLUE CROSS AND ONE FROM UNITED.
UM, THE RESPONSES DID INCLUDE PROPOSALS FOR SOME PLAN DESIGN CHANGES, WHICH I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE.
AFTER THE EVALUATION, UH, OUR MOST COMPETITIVE, UH, VENDORS DID, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THE BEST AND FINAL OFFER PROCESS, WHICH I'M GONNA REVIEW WITH YOU AS WELL.
AND THEN FINALLY, DURING THE PROCESS, WE DID CONDUCT, UM, SOME BENEFIT BENCHMARKINGS, UM, LOOKING AT THE CITIES OF SLOS, SEINE, SAN MARCUS AND NEW BRAUNFELS, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR PLAN DESIGNS OFFERED.
UM, SO I'M GONNA SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU AS WELL.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, I'M NOT GONNA GO, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF NUMBERS HERE AND IT'S SMALL.
HOPEFULLY YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS.
I'M NOT GONNA GO IN DEPTH INTO THE NUMBERS, BUT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO ILLUSTRATE WITH THIS PICTURE
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IS THE RED TEXT IS INDICATIVE OF WHERE OUR BENCHMARKS OFFER LESS BENEFIT THAN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.CONVERSELY, THE GREEN TEXT INDICATES A GREATER LEVEL OF BENEFIT.
SO YOU CAN SEE OVERWHELMINGLY, UM, AND EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN DESIGN CHANGES THAT I'M GONNA DISCUSS, WE CAN CONTINUE TO FAR SURPASS OUR BENCHMARKS WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEVEL OF BENEFIT THAT WE'RE OFFERING WITH OUR PLAN DESIGNS.
SO ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU, YOU, YOU SEE THE THREE MAIN, UM, OR REALLY THE, THE THREE, ONLY THREE BENEFIT PLAN, UM, CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKET AC UH, BY $1,000 ACROSS ALL THE MEDICAL PLANS.
SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE HERE ON THE BASE.
PPO, THE BUY PPO AND THEN THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN.
THE SECOND CHANGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO REDUCE OUT OF NETWORK BENEFITS FROM 60% CO-INSURANCE AFTER DEDUCTIBLE TO 50%.
UH, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS GONNA HAVE A VERY, VERY MINIMAL IMPACT BECAUSE WITH BLUE CROSS THEY HAVE A VERY ROBUST NETWORK.
UM, AND OUR OUT OF NETWORK CLAIMS ARE ACTUALLY, AND IT HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, VERY, VERY LOW.
SO WE THINK THIS WILL BE, UM, MINIMALLY IMPACTFUL TO OUR, TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND THEN LASTLY, INTRODUCING A 10% CO-INSURANCE ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE PAY, THE PLAN IS GONNA PAY 90% AFTER DEDUCTIBLE RATHER THAN 100 UNTIL THE MAX OUT OF POCKET IS MET.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THE PLAN DESIGN CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, AFTER THE INITIAL EVALUATION, UM, UNITED WAS THE LEAST COMPETITIVE CARRIER WITH THEIR PROPOSAL.
SO THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE BEST AND FINAL OFFER ROUND.
UM, BUT CIGNA AND BLUE CROSS BOTH DID AND THEIR PROPOSALS ARE SUMMARIZED HERE BEFORE YOU.
SO CIGNA'S BEST AND FINAL OFFER, UM, INCLUDED A SIX AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF THE THREE PLANS.
THE BASE PPO, THE BUY PPO AND THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE, THEY DID NOT OFFER A RATE CAP.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT 6.5% INCREASE EQUALS APPROXIMATELY $400,000.
BLUE CROSS CAME IN VERY COMPETITIVE, WHICH WE WERE REALLY PLEASED TO SEE.
AND UM, THEY'RE OFFERING A 1.96% RATE INCREASE ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN ONLY AND OFFERED A RATE PASS MEANING NO INCREASE TO OUR CURRENT RATES FOR BOTH THE BASE AND BUY AT PPO.
THEY ALSO DID OFFER A 15% RATE CAP FOR 2027.
YOU CAN SEE DOWN BELOW, UH, THAT 1.96 EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY 16 AND HALF THOUSAND DOLLARS, OF WHICH ABOUT 12,000 OR ALMOST 13,000 IS GENERAL FUND.
YOU SEE THE FUND BREAK DOWN THERE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS MEANS, WE'RE LOOKING TONIGHT FOR COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER TO A CONTRACT WITH BLUE CROSS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THEIR PROPOSAL SHOWS, UM, IS REFLECTIVE OF A BEST VALUE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN OFFER AND THE COST AT WHICH THEY CAN DO SO.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 25 R ONE 18 TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF TEXAS FOR PLAN YEAR 2026 FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE.
UM, NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO WORK WITH OUR BROKER ACTUALLY, UM, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT.
UM, REAGAN LATIMER WITH GALLAGHERS IS HERE, WORK WITH THE THE CARRIER AND A DP ON IMPLEMENTATION FOR A 1 1 26 PLAN START.
OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING THESE CHANGES OUT TO OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, AHEAD OF OPEN ENROLLMENT, WHICH WILL HAPPEN AT THE END OF OCTOBER.
SO THEY HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THE MEDICAL PLANS SO THAT THEY CAN BEST DECIDE WHAT WILL BE BEST FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN 2026.
AND THEN FINALLY, LOOKING AHEAD, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE, UM, OUR CURRENT INSURANCE PLAN DESIGN OPTIONS.
UM, WE WILL LOOK AT OUR CURRENT INSURANCE FUNDING STRUCTURES AND OTHER STRATEGIES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY, UM, CONTAIN COSTS AS WE GO FORWARD.
IT'S LIKELY THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE PLAN DESIGN CHANGES.
AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS INTRODUCE THEM INCREMENTALLY SO THAT THEY ARE NOT FELT, UM, TOO, TOO HARSHLY BY EMPLOYEES.
UM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS AGAIN, WE OFFER REALLY, REALLY GENEROUS PLANS AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT GOING FORWARD FOR US TO MAINTAIN WITH THE RISING HEALTHCARE COSTS.
SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, MR. WILLIAMS, YOU HAD SOMETHING THERE? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING.
IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, COUNSEL, PREPARING FOR THE 24 25 FISCAL YEAR, WE SOUGHT BIDS AND CHANGED CARRIERS AT THE TIME.
WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE ROUGHLY 11% FROM WHAT OUR CURRENT PREMIUMS WERE.
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PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE FACING ABOUT A 14% INCREASE FROM THE CARRIER AT THAT TIME.SO WE LOWERED OUR COST WITHOUT CHANGING THE PLAN AND THEN THIS YEAR WENT INTO THE MARKET AGAIN AND WERE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY NOT INCREASE COST WITH MINIMAL DISRUPTION.
SO THAT BEING SAID, KUDOS TO JESSICA AND TO GALLAGHER FOR DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF LOWERING OUR COST AND KEEPING IT LOW.
WHILE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S COMPARED TO OUR COMPETITIVE CITIES, THAT WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY RICHER PLAN AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AT A LOWER COST THAN WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING IN FROM UH, HR THERE.
UH, WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT EASY 'CAUSE HEALTHCARE IS NOT CHEAP ANYWHERE.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT, UH, RESOLUTION 25 R ONE 18 SECOND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TIM BROWN AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
UH, BUT BEFORE I CALL FOR THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO, YOU HAD COMMENT? YES.
UH, HE CAN CAN YOU GO BACK TO, UH, THE, UH, SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE? I'M SORRY SIR.
WHICH SLIDE? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
YEAH, IT WAS TOWARDS THE GO BACK
IT WAS, YOU ONLY HAD THE INCREASE FOR THE BLUE CROSS AND THE OTHER ONE.
YOU, ME TO GO FORWARD THIS ONE? YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE INCREASE FOR THE, FOR THE THIRD ONE? 'CAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE TWO OF 'EM HERE.
RIGHT? SO, UH, UNITED, THEIR INITIAL PROPOSAL CAME IN AND AT ABOUT A 27% INCREASE.
SO THEY DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE BEST AND FINAL BECAUSE THEY WERE SO MUCH LESS COMPETITIVE THAN, THAN THESE TWO CARRIERS.
I DIDN'T SEE THEM UP HERE, SO YES SIR.
THIS JUST REPRESENTS THE BEST AND FINAL OFFERS.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THEIR INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS ABOUT 27.3% INCREASE OVER CURRENT RATES.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? SO BEFORE THE 15% RATE INCREASE OR IS THAT GONNA BE THE INDUSTRY STANDARD GOING FORWARD WHEN I SEE THAT FOR 2027.
SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO INVITE REAGAN UP HERE.
SHE, SHE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE AND VERY LUCKY WITH GALLAGHER.
THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB EVERY YEAR NEGOTIATING ON OUR BEHALF AND NEGOTIATING THOSE RATES DOWN AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.
UM, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENTLY SEEN PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A A 9% INCREASE, BUT I THINK 15% MAY BE KIND OF A NEW NORM.
AND REAGAN, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT.
HELLO? UH, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.
REAGAN LATIMER, CLIENT EXECUTIVE WITH GALLAGHER BENEFIT SERVICES.
UM, SO YEAH, SPEAKING TO INDUSTRY TRENDS OVERALL, WHAT I, I'M SORRY I'M SO MUCH TALLER THAN YOU JESSICA
UM, BUT YEAH, SPEAKING TO INDUSTRY TRENDS, WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY SEEING HEALTHCARE COSTS CONTINUE TO RISE.
UM, LOOKING AT A FULLY INSURED PLAN, THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS, UH, 15% IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS QUITE GENEROUS, I WOULD SAY GIVEN THE PREVIOUS PERFORMANCE OF THE PLAN BASED OFF OF CLAIMS UTILIZATION.
SO THAT MEANS TAKING A LOOK AT OUR OVERALL CLAIM SPEND, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY PUT THOSE INCREASES IN THE BALLPARK SIMILAR TO WHERE UNITEDHEALTHCARE CAME IN ON THEIR INITIAL OFFER, UH, FOR THE CITY BASED OFF OF JUST YOUR PARTICULAR POPULATION.
AND ALSO KNOWING THAT, UH, INSURANCE COMPANIES NEED TO, UH, BUILD IN INCREASES AS WELL, UH, TO HELP KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AT THEIR PLACE.
SO I WOULD NOT, I'D SAY 25% WOULD BE LIKELY, SO 15 WOULD BE VERY NICE.
UH, OF COURSE WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO NEGOTIATE DOWN BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A CAP.
UH, SO IF THERE IS WIGGLE ROOM TO BRING IT DOWN FROM THAT GUARANTEED 15% INCREASE FOR 2027, WE'LL ABSOLUTELY DO OUR BEST.
I'M JUST ASKING 'CAUSE I'M ON THE IRP BOARD AND WE DO INSURANCE FOR OTHER THINGS AND KNOWING THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND TRYING TO GET RATES LOWER AND, AND UH, MAKING IT HAPPEN FOR CITIES, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THAT I WAS JUST CONCERNED, CURIOUS ABOUT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS, I THINK A CURIOSITY.
I KNOW IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITY, BUT LIKE THE $1,000, UH, INCREASE FOR, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH AS THE OUT OF POCKET.
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WAS A LITTLE BIT UNEXPECTED FOR ME TO SEE THAT.AND THEN KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA COST THEM A LITTLE MORE TO GO SEE THE DOCTOR.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET TO WITHOUT, IS THERE LIKE A CAP OR FIVE OR 10% OF THE STAFF THAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP GETTING TO THAT MAXIMUM CAP? YEAH, I, I, FROM WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, JUST KNOWING THAT THE CITY HAS MANAGED TO KEEP THE PLAN SOLVENT, KEEP THE RATES AS LOW AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND NOT CHANGE THE PLAN DESIGNS, UM, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I SEE WITH A LOT OF MY CLIENTS.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE CITY OF SHIRTS ACCOUNT SINCE 2018.
UM, SO IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE, UH, THAT YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PLAN'S INTEGRITY FOR SO LONG.
UM, HOWEVER, AS WE'RE WATCHING THESE INCREASES IN HEALTHCARE TREND AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A GROWING CLAIMS VOLUME, UH, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES FOR THE PLAN.
SO IN THAT INCREASE, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO KEEP YOU COMPETITIVE COMPARED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THOSE FUTURE PREMIUM INCREASES FROM THE CARRIER LOW.
UH, BUT LOOKING AT THE UTILIZATION OF MEMBERS, THE OUT-OF-POCKET MAX IS NOT ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING MEMBERS HIT.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY LOOKING AT A 20 TO 30% OF THE POP OF THE TOTAL POPULATION ON THE PLAN, UH, THAT MAY BE SEEING THOSE LIMITS.
AND ONCE THAT LIMIT IS HIT, UH, FOR OUT-OF-POCKET MAX, JUST FOR LAYMAN'S TERMS, THAT MEANS THE PLAN PAYS 100% AND THAT MEMBER IS NOT GOING TO PAY ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE POLICY YEAR.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MOTIONS BEEN MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM BROWN, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.
I DON'T SEE ANY, ANYONE CASTING THE VOTE? THERE IT IS.
ALL RIGHT, I WAS GONNA CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
WE HAVE SEVEN AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC
[4. Ordinance 25-S-035 - Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow Mixed-Use Self-Storage in General Business District (GB) on approximately 2.14 acres, located along the IH-35 North access road, approximately 900 feet west of the intersection of IH-35 and Cibolo Valley Drive, more specifically known as a portion of Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 62840, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas (B.James/L.Wood/W.Willingham)]
HEARING ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 3 5.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW MIXED USE, SELF MIXED USE SELF STORAGE IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 2.14 ACRES.
LOCATED ALONG IH 35 NORTH ACCESS ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 900 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF IH 35 AND SYBIL VALLEY DRIVE, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS A PORTION OF GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 2 8 4 0.
CITY ASSURES GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS.
MR. WILLINGHAM FLOOR IS YOURS.
GOOD EVENING COUNSEL MAYOR MR. WILLIAMS ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 5 A PROPOSED SUP FOR MIXED USE SELF STORAGE.
WILLIE WILLINGHAM PLANNER FOR YOUR ORIENTATION.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
THIS IS THE AREA EXHIBIT SHOWING THE PROPERTY IS ONE POINT, EXCUSE ME, 2.14 ACRES OF UN PLATTED LAND.
AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH OVER HERE, THIS IS THE QT LOCATED NEAR SLO VALLEY AND I 35.
YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH, THIS IS WHERE AN EQUIPMENT RENTAL BUSINESS IS LOCATED.
YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE THERE'S THAT, UH, ELECTRIC SUBSTATION LOCATED JUST BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY ZONE GB M1 FURTHER TOWARDS THE BACK AND I 35 TO THE SOUTH.
NOTIFICATION FOR PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ON JULY 25TH, 2025.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES.
ONE SIGN WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT AND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS ON AUGUST 13TH.
BACKGROUND FOR THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO CONSTRUCT A FOUR STORY STRUCTURE OF A MIXED USE SELF STORAGE BUILDING OF A APPROXIMATELY 121,000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.
UH, THEY'RE INTENDING TO HAVE OFFICE RETAIL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO CONSIDERING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THE LIMITS OF THE REQUESTED SUP BOUNDARY OF 2.14 ACRES, UDC SECTION 21 5 8.
THE PERMITTED USE TABLE REQUIRES THAT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR A MIXED USE SELF STORAGE IN GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT GB.
FOR SOME FURTHER BACKGROUND, IF THIS WAS LOOKING FAMILIAR, YOU SOUNDED LIKE, OR IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THIS ONE BEFORE.
UH, WE DID HAVE TWO ORDINANCES BE PASSED BY COUNSEL ORDINANCE 24 S 26 WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL ON JUNE 18TH, 2024.
AND ORDINANCE 24 S ONE 70 WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.
THEY WERE MAKING THE SAME REQUEST.
UM, IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY PNZ UNANIMOUSLY FOR APPROVAL.
BOTH OF THESE SUVS HAVE THE SAME, UH, EXPIRATION
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PERIOD OF TWO YEARS.SO THOSE EXPIRATIONS WILL BE JUNE 18TH, 2026 AND DECEMBER 3RD, 2026.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMIT POOLED FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY, THE SEP JUST EXPIRES FOR SOME FURTHER BACKGROUND.
JUST SO YOU CAN GET YOUR BEARINGS, YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE SOUTH AND THE GREEN LOCATED ALONG 3 0 0 9, THIS IS WHERE THE FIRST SEP REQUEST CAME IN.
THEN THE SECOND SCP REQUEST CAME IN, IN THIS, THIS YELLOW OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE CURRENT REQUEST OUTLINED IN RED AND THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA IN BLUE, UDC SECTION 21 5 11 D OUTLINES CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
THE FIRST BEING THE PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIFIED LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLANS.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THE LONG GRANGE VISION OF SHIRTS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN REGIONAL CORRIDOR, WHICH IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL BIG BOX ENTERTAINMENT, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT YOU'D FIND ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE SUCH AS I 35.
THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WITH AN SUP FOR MIXED USE SELF STORAGE OFFERS GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SERVICES OR OFFICE SPACES SEPARATE FROM THE STORAGE UNITS.
AND SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH REGIONAL CORRIDOR.
TWO, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS.
GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT GB IS NON-RESIDENTIAL USES OFFERING RETAIL SERVICES FOR THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE SCP IS FOR MIXED USE OF STORAGE, ENSURES THAT THE STRUCTURE CAN OFFER RETAIL SERVICES BEYOND JUST THE STORAGE ALONE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S LOCATED IN THE GB AREA ADJACENT TO OTHER GB PROPERTIES.
THREE, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS LARGER PHOTO HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.
YOU COULD SEE FURTHER THERE IN THE BACK.
THAT'S WHERE THE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION IS.
YOU COULD SEE THE EQUIPMENT RENTAL BUSINESS LOCATED HERE JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND FURTHER UP THE ROAD, YOU SEE THE QT LOCATED THERE AT THIS TIME.
SO THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY EITHER GB OR M1 ZONING DISTRICTS, AND IT IS NEAR, OF COURSE, THESE TWO BUSINESSES I JUST OUTLINED FOR THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE OVERALL HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WE WELFARE OF THE CITY.
AS PART OF PROMOTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY GENERAL BUSINESS AND M1.
AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, MANUFACTURING LIGHT AND THE CITY OF SHEZ FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATING TO THIS REQUEST.
FIVE, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
STAFF HAS ENSURED THAT ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED SUP AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AN ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CITY COUN WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS OTHER CRITERIA RELEVANT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SUP.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MET ON AUGUST 6TH, 2025 AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITH CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH THE SIX ZERO VOTE TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25 S 0 35, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW MIXED USE SELF STORAGE AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONDITION.
UPON THE, THE FOLLOWING, A BUILDING PERMIT IS APPROVED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE SEP ORDINANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH UDC, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION 21 5 11 F EXPIRATION OF AN SEP AND TWO 25% OF THE USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PROPOSED MIXED USE SELF STORAGE BUILDING, BE FOR OFFICE SERVICE OR RETAIL SPACE AND SEPARATE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS FOR LEASE OR RENT.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH A PRESENTATION.
OKAY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL, UH, JAMES GRIFFIN WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UH, WHICH IS STORAGE HUB.
UM, THANK YOU WILLIAM FOR, FOR THAT AND FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.
IT WAS A EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, HE REALLY COVERED IT ALL AND COVERED IT ALL WELL, PROBABLY MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN I WILL.
SO I WILL, I WILL TRY TO RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
UM, AS, AS WILLIAM UH MENTIONED, THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR.
UH, THIS IS OUR, OUR THIRD, UH, REQUEST.
UH, HOWEVER, THERE WILL NOT BE THREE NEW SELF STORAGE BUILDINGS, UH, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE, THE OTHER TWO, UH, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, UH, WERE NOT FEASIBLE.
THE 3 0 0 9 1, UM, THAT ONE ACTUALLY IS, UH, IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, AND MOVING FORWARD AS A, A RETAIL ONLY SITE.
SO THAT SUP WILL, WILL NOT BE USED.
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DOOR, UH, THAT WAS BEING PURCHASED FROM, UH, QT, UH, OUR CLIENT NO LONGER HAS THAT, UH, UNDER CONTRACT SO THAT SUP WILL EXPIRE AS WELL, UH, THAT SITE.I GUESS TO TAKE A STEP BACK, THE, THE 3 0 0 9 SITE WAS THE, THE FIRST SITE PROPOSED FOR, UH, SELF STORAGE, MIXED USE, SELF STORAGE, UH, PROJECT.
UH, AND THEN THE I 35 SITE BECAME AVAILABLE, JUST HAD BETTER, UH, BETTER VISIBILITY, JUST BETTER LOCATION.
SO, UH, OUR CLIENT PIVOTED OVER TO THAT SITE.
UH, HOWEVER, AFTER SUP APPROVAL, UH, AS ENGINEERING GOT FURTHER UNDERWAY, UH, JUST, UH, A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES, UH, PRIMARILY DUE WITH DRAINAGE, UM, UH, THERE'S A LARGE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE FRONT OF THAT SITE, WHEREAS IT RUNS THROUGH THE BACK OF OUR SITE NOW.
UH, I, I GUESS TO SUM IT UP, THAT SITE WAS JUST REALLY, UH, TOO DIFFICULT, UH, TO, UH, DEVELOP ONCE ENGINEERING GOT FURTHER ALONG, UH, THIS SITE BECAME AVAILABLE.
UM, AND, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THAT REQUEST.
UH, AS WILLIAM MENTIONED, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, THAT OUR CLIENT HAS UNDER CONTRACT, WHICH IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE SUP REQUEST, UH, IS LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED FOR, UH, RETAIL.
UM, GOING BACK AGAIN TO THAT, THAT LAST SITE, NEXT TO QT, UM, UM, THERE WAS A, A STANDALONE RETAIL, UH, OUT FRONT WITH THE MIXED USE SELF-STORAGE, UH, IN THE BACK.
UH, HERE WE CAN HAVE MORE ROOM BASICALLY TO KIND OF SEPARATE THOSE AND, AND ALLOW FOR MORE VISIBILITY FROM 35 FOR, UH, BOTH THE RETAIL NEXT DOOR AND THE, UM, THE SELF-STORAGE USE, WHICH AGAIN HAS THAT LITTLE OVER 25% GROUND FLOOR FLEX RETAIL OFFICE SPACE.
SO THAT'LL REALLY HELP HELP DRIVE THAT RETAIL AND, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A BETTER LOOKING, MORE SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.
AND AGAIN, JUST ONE, NOT THREE.
UM, AND WE DO HOPE THIS IS, AND, AND BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE'LL, WE'LL BE ASKING FOR THIS ONE.
SO THANK Y'ALL FOR, FOR BEARING WITH US.
UM, I GUESS I NEVER MADE IT PAST THAT FIRST SLIDE, BUT, UM, HERE'S, UH, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WILLIAM COVERED THIS WELL.
YOU SEE THE QT THERE, UM, UH, PROPERTY DETAILS, WHICH I BELIEVE WERE WERE COVERED ALREADY.
UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST KINDA GIVING YOU A MORE IDEA OF, OF WHERE WE SIT.
UM, AS WILLIAM MENTIONED, UH, UH, STAFF AND PNZ RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, WITH CONDITIONS, UH, WE FULLY SUPPORT AND AGREE TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND, AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL.
UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND BEFORE, BEFORE I WALK AWAY, I GUESS TO GET TO SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT DETAILS HERE, UM, HERE'S A SITE PLAN SHOWING, UH, JUST KIND OF THE TECHNICAL LAYOUT OF THAT SITE.
UM, AND THOSE FLEX OFFICE SPACE, UH, AREAS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, COLOR, UH, SITE PLAN JUST TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT OTHER SITE, WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE THAT SITE AND THE OTHERS AROUND US, UH, ACTUALLY DRAINED TO THIS SITE.
SO WE'LL BE COLLECTING THEIR RUNOFF AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO PROVIDE, UH, MOSTLY UNDERGROUND DETENTION, SO, UH, HANDLING A LOT OF STORM WATER RUNOFF, UH, DRAINAGE DETENTION THERE.
UH, BUT UNDERGROUND WITH, UH, MOSTLY LANDSCAPING, UH, ON TOP, UH, AGAIN, JUST, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE FUNCTIONAL, UM, BETTER LOOKING SIGHT.
UH, AND THERE'S THE BUILDING ITSELF AGAIN WHEN YOU SEE THE GROUND FLOOR OFFICE RETAIL, UH, WITH STORAGE ABOVE.
UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY.
THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDAS, AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT? MIC'S OPEN.
ANYBODY GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, RIGHT? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 6 59.
COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 35? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIO, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO, TIM BROWN.
COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE SEVEN YAYS, NO OBJECTIONS.
[5. Ordinance 25-S-036 – Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to rezone approximately 36.2 acres of land from Planned Development District (PDD) to Planned Development District (PDD), generally known as 13011 Lower Seguin Road, at the intersection of Lower Seguin Road and Red Bud Canyon, more specifically known as Bexar County Property Identification Numbers 310011, 1436811, 1437570, 1394925 City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]
FIVE.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER
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A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 36.2 ACRES OF LAND FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDD TO PAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, KNOWN AS 1 3 0 1 1 LAURA SINE ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAURA SINE ROAD AND REDBUD CANYON, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY.IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS 3 1 0 0 1 1 1, 4 3, 6, 8 1, 1, 1, 4, 3, 7, 5 7 AND 1 3 9 4 9 2 5.
CITY ASSURES, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.
THANK YOU MAYOR COUNSEL, MR. WILLIAMS, THIS IS ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 6.
THE PROPERTY IS, THE PARCELS ARE OUTLINED HERE IN GREEN.
THIS IS CURRENTLY PART OF THE EXISTING SADDLEBROOK RANCH, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 32.6 ACRES RIGHT NOW.
IT IS BEING USED, THE, THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES IS UNDEVELOPED AND BEING USED AS DRAINAGE.
SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SADDLEBROOK WAS APPROVED AS ORDINANCE 21 S ZERO SIX, AND THAT WAS AT MARCH 21ST, 2021.
THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT HAD 229 ACRES.
IT WAS A MIXTURE OF LOT SIZES, HOUSING TYPES, AND ALSO USES, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT MIXTURE OF USES IS A, WAS A 3.3 ACRE SITE DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USES ALONG A FRONT OF LOWER SINE ROAD.
SO THE SADDLEBACK RANCH TWO PDD WILL ADHERE TO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES, WHICH I'LL GO INTO HERE IN A SEC.
SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN FROM THAT, THAT ORDINANCE 21 S ZERO SIX, AND YOU'LL SEE HERE, UH, LOT SIZES HERE, AN INGRESS, EGRESS EASEMENT, THE DETENTION POND, AND THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL AREA YOU SEE.
SO THIS IS THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN FOR SADDLEBROOK TWO PDD.
UH, IT'LL CONSIST OF A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R TWO.
UM, IT'LL HAVE 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND JUST A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN DEPTH FROM ONE 20 TO ONE 18.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE REMOVED THE COMMERCIAL PORTION AND THEY'VE REARRANGED THE DRAINAGE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO.
UH, THIS WILL ADD ABOUT 20 ADDITIONAL LOTS TO THIS UNIT.
SO ON JULY 25TH, 2025, FIVE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE SENT OUT.
WE'D RECEIVED NO RESPONSES TO THAT.
A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
AND A NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS.
UH, NOT A LOT OF VARIATION HERE, BUT IT JUST GOES FROM PDD TO PDD.
SO WHEN, UH, USING, SO STAFF USES, UH, SECTION 21 5 10 F CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS WHEN EVALUATING THIS.
SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE ONE AT A TIME.
SO NUMBER ONE, WHETHER TO PRO PROPOSED PDD IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPT CONSTANT COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN, THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATES AREA'S COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THE INTENT FOR THAT IS A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES, BUT ALSO COMPLIMENTARY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, WHILE THE REQUEST IN AND OF ITSELF, UH, DOES CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN, THE EXISTING PDD, THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED AS, UM, 21 S OH SIX, UH, STAFF, FEELS THAT THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE INTENT OF THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE IT HAS THAT COMMERCIAL PORTION.
NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED PDD PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, EFFICIENT, HELPFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.
SO THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENTS COMPATIBLE SURROUNDING USES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS IN DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE LOWER SKIING CORRIDOR.
HERE'S A MAP OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
JUAH RANCH, SADDLEBROOK R VALLEY'S BEEN THERE.
CARMEL RANCH IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY, AND THERE'S SOME NEW, UM, SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED RECENTLY.
UH, MONTEREY MEADOWS HAS 24 S 1 48 AND ALSO A NEW 1 25 S 0 22 RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
CONTINUING ALONG WITH NUMBER TWO, SO, UM, SOUTH SHIRTS, RESIDENTS, CITY COUNCIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY'VE ALL EXPRESSED DESIRES TO SEE SOME COMMERCIAL SERVICES IN SOUTH SHIRTS.
THE LOSS OF THIS COMMERCIAL POR PORTION WORKS EXPRESS WORKS AGAINST THE EXPRESSLY STATED GOALS AND POLICY DECISIONS.
SO STAFF FEELS THAT NUMBER TWO, THE THIS IS NOT ORDERLY, EFFICIENT OR HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT FOR SOUTH SHIRTS.
NUMBER THREE, WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED IN THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION AND THE STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO SUCH USES WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE LAND TO BE RECLASSIFIED.
SO AGAIN, THE, UH, MEDIA AREA IS A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND, RURAL RESIDENCES, AND SEVERAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.
CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPMENT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE PDD HERE, THEY ALL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
NUMBER FOUR, THE WHETHER PROPOSED CHANGES IN
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ACCORD OF ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS PROVIDING, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, STREETS, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWER, O, OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO THE AREA.S-C-U-C-I-S-D HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE.
UM, THE SADDLE RANCH PROJECT ITSELF HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR A WHILE NOW, SO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING TO WATER, WASTEWATER ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING WITH THIS PROPOSAL NUMBER.
THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE PROPOSED PD RESULT IN A SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT THEN COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
SO THIS REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY AN R TWO REQUEST WITH A REDUCTION IN DEPTH.
UM, THE SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF IT, UH, STAFF FEELS IT FITS MORE TO WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED AS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
IN FACT, THE ORIGINAL CITY COUNCIL MEMORANDUM FROM MARCH 5TH, 2021, HAD IN IT SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT THE COMMERCIAL AS AN ADDED BENEFIT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT, INCLUDING THAT COMMERCIAL PORTION, WAS CONSIDERED SUPERIOR.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL INITIALLY IN 2021 BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS ON OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
NUMBER SIX, WHETHER ALL APPLICANTS, WHETHER ALL OF THE APPLICANT'S BACK TAXES OWED TO THE CITY HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL.
SO THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE RECOGNITION OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, NOR DID IT AFFECT, DOES IT AFFECT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION.
WHETHER OTHER CRITERIA ARE MET AT THE DISCRETION OF PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS AMENDMENT.
SO ALL UC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE.
UH, CITY ASSURES FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
S-C-U-C-I-S-D WAS ALSO NOTIFIED AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THIS REQUEST IS NOT IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN NOT, DOES NOT PROMOTE ORDERLY AND EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT, AND REMOVES THE UNIQUE AND SUPERIOR ELEMENT FROM THE ORIGINAL PDD REQUEST.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 6, THE SHIRTS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 6TH, 2025, AND ALSO RECOMMENDED DENIAL WITH THE FIVE TO ONE VOTE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN ATTENDANCE WE'D LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT.
UH, PLEASE, UH, STEP UP TO THE MIC AND PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
UH, I WAS NOTICING THAT MAP AND IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE ADDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES THAT WERE, UH, GETTING, UH, UH, RIGHT ONTO THE CREEK, UH, FLOOD ZONE.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO ACTUALLY, UH, PROMOTE BUILDING HOUSES AND FLOOD ZONES AND STREETS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT MAP I SAW.
ANY OTHER, ANY ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, RIGHT? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
7 0 8 COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
MR. HAAS, COULD YOU PUT SLIDE NUMBER TWO PLEASE? BACK UP THERE FOR ME.
THIS ONE? MAYBE THE NEXT ONE'S PROBABLY CLEARER.
UM, NO, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE MAIN ROAD HERE.
THAT'S THE 30 0 9 SOUTHERN EXPANSION IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
AND THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS ON THAT, ON THAT FRONTAGE? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WHEN WE VOTED FOR THAT BACK IN 2021, WE WANTED THE COMMERCIAL THERE BECAUSE WE REALIZED IT NEEDED TO BE THERE AS PART OF THAT PORTION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADD MORE HOUSES TO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT AS A PDD AND THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE PDD AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS TO CHANGE THE PDD AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE IS DOING.
I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
YEAH, I, I CONCUR WITH, UH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING.
I'VE WATCHED THEIR, UH, UH, I WATCHED THE MEETING ON, UH, THE RECORDED VIDEO AND, UH, UH, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I, THAT I'VE GOT TO SAY, AND ALTHOUGH THIS ISN'T QUITE AS CLOSE, ARE WE GOING TO GET PUSHBACK FROM THE, UH, UM, FROM THE FEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS THERE NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL MEDICAL OFFICE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS TO PUT A, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME TYPE OF A CONVENIENCE STORE OR RETAIL IN THERE THAT
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YOU, THAT THEY JUST DON'T WANT CONSTRUCTION NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE? YEAH, AND, AND AGAIN, I I, I KIND OF SAY THAT TONGUE IN CHEEK, UH, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER ON 1518, UH, PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, UM, COMMERCIAL.THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY DON'T WANT IT BEHIND THEM.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AGREE WITH PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS ONE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
I WILL MAKE A, UH, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 6.
DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? OH, I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY.
MOTION TO DENY IN THIS CASE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY FOR MAYOR PRO BROWN.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS? ONCE AGAIN, THE MOTION WAS TO DENY, SO IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU'RE DENYING THE APPLICATION.
ALRIGHT, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
WE HAVE SEVEN AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.
THE MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED.
OKAY, SO WE, WE GOT THAT ONE STRAIGHT.
[6. Ordinance 25-S-037– Conduct a public hearing and consider request for a Specific Use Permit to allow a convenience store with gas pumps on approximately 4.2 acres of land, located at the intersection of North Graytown Road & IH 10, known as 11185 IH 10 E, Bexar County Property Identification Number 619232, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]
SIX.WE HAVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 S 0 3 7.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC CLEARING PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS ON APPROXIMATELY 4.2 ACRES OF LAND.
LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH GRAY TOWN ROAD AND IH 10, KNOWN AS 1 1 1 8 5 IH 10 EAST BEXAR COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS 6 1 9 2 3 2.
CITY ASSURES BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.
CAN YOU SEE WHAT'S THE PRESENTATION RIGHT CURRENTLY? NO.
UH, THIS IS ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 7 SAMUEL HAAS SENIOR PLANNER.
SO SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN GREEN.
THIS IS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF GRAY TOWN ROAD, NORTH GRAY TOWN ROAD AND IH 10.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS AND UH, IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.
WE'LL BACKGROUND ON THIS AS WELL.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH COVERED GAS PUMPS.
UH, THIS PROPERLY PREVIOUSLY HAD A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, JUNE 20TH, 2023 AS ORDINANCE 23 S 12, UH, CONDITION.
UPON THAT, UH, APPROVAL WAS A BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL WITHIN TWO YEARS THAT HAS SINCE ELAPSED THAT SUP HAS EXPIRED.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS COME BACK IN TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING.
UM, THE REQUEST HAS NOT CHANGED AND INTENDS TO DEVELOP, UH, A 6,500 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE WITH FUEL CANOPY FOR BOTH PASSENGER CARS AND DIESEL TRUCKS.
A TOTAL OF FOUR PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS WERE SENT OUT.
UH, WE'VE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR.
UH, ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL AND THERE WAS A PUB PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND PUBLISHED IN THE ESSAY EXPRESS.
THIS IS JUST THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO WHEN USING, UM, LOOKING AT SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, WE USE 21 5 11 D CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.
WHETHER PROPOSED USE AT THE SPECIFIC LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ADOPTED PLAN.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS REGIONAL CORRIDOR.
UH, IT'S ATTENDED FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, REGIONAL DESTINATIONS, AND COMPLIMENTARY COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, THIS, UH, DESIGNATION DOES ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF CON COMMERCIAL USES AND THE, UH, SPEC, THE REQUESTED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATION.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SUITABLE AREAS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH OFFER A WIDE VARIETY OF RETAIL AND SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS SERVING THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THE SPECIFIC USE AND LOCATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE AND PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IT'S SURROUNDED BY MOSTLY VACANT LAND.
THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
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PROPOSED USE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE OVERALL HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY.STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT NO ADVERSE IMPACT WILL OCCUR FROM THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO, SHIRTZ FIRE EMS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE PROVIDED NO OBJECTIONS.
ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
UH, THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONFORMS THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND HAS NO ADVERSE IMPACT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF 25 S 0 3 7 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE BUILDING PERMIT IS APPROVED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 6TH, 2025 AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THIS SIX TO ZERO VOTE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY? I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT STEPPING UP, SO.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN 16.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA AND OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS SUBJECT? MIC'S OPEN.
ANYONE GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT SEVEN 16.
COUNCIL FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO? YES, I MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25 S 0 3 7.
SECOND MOTION BEING MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAR GUERRERO.
AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON COUNCIL.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE PLEASE.
WE HAVE SEVEN AYES, NO OBJECTIONS.
[7. PLAPP20250187 - Conduct a public hearing and consider an appeal to a decision by the Planning and Zoning Commission for a waiver in relation to wall signage for the Home Depot on Lot 10 Block 1 of the Schertz Station Subdivision, approximately 18.709 acres of land, located at 18541 Ripss-Kreusler Road, Schertz, Texas, 78154, more specifically known as Guadalupe County Parcel Identification Number 68313 (B.James/L.Wood/S.Haas)]
TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN P-L-A-P-P 2 0 2 5 0 1 8 7.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPEAL TO A DECISION BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A WAIVER IN RELATION TO A WALL.
SIGNAGE FOR THE HOME DEPOT ON LOT 10 BLOCK ONE OF SHIRT STATION SUBDIVISION, APPROXIMATELY 18.709 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 1-854-ONE-RIPS CLASSER ROAD, SHEZ, TEXAS 7 8 1 5 4.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 8 3 1 3.
THIS IS THE APPEAL OF A SIGN WAIVER REQUEST DECISION.
SO, UH, RECENTLY, UH, WE RE WE HAD SOME UPDATES TO ARTICLE 11 THAT WERE APPROVED ON JUNE 7TH, 2025.
THAT IS OUR SIGN CODE SECTION.
IN THOSE UPDATES, THERE WAS A NEW SECTION THAT ACTUALLY HAD WAIVERS, UM, THAT ALLOWED APPLICANTS TO BASICALLY APPLY FOR, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE, IF YOU WILL.
THAT WAIVER IS DECIDED UPON BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, IF AN APPLICANT FEELS THAT THAT RULING WAS WRONG, THEN THEY CAN APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
SO THIS WAS IN RELATION TO A WALL SIGN.
SO THOSE, JUST TO REFRESH OUR MEMORY HERE, THE, UH, UPDATED WALL SIGN, UM, REGULATIONS ARE HERE BEFORE YOU.
SO, ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION IS REALLY THE BIG DETERMINANT ON HOW BIG YOUR SIGN'S GONNA BE.
UH, FOR INTERSTATES AND FARM TO MARKET ROADS, YOU GET 250 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE PER FACADE.
YOU COULD SPLIT THAT UP HOWEVER YOU WANT TO USE IT.
UM, AND BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET GET ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF MAXIMUM SIGNAGE AREA AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THIS IS THE SHIRT STATION SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED HOME DEPOT LOCATION.
IT'S ON LOT 10 BLOCK ONE OF THAT SUBDIVISION.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE PDD PROCESS.
THE ADDRESS OF THE HOME DEPOT IS 1-854-ONE-RIPS CHRYSLER.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT BASED OFF OF THIS.
IT'S NOT AN INTERSTATE OR FARMER MARKET ROAD, SO THAT MEANS IT'S ALL OTHERS.
SO, UH, PER THE CODE, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED A, UH, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF FACADE AND THEN IT IS A 136,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
SO THEY WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
AND I BASICALLY SAID ALL THAT JUST NOW.
SO HERE IS APPLICANT SUBMITTED THIS.
UM, YOU KIND OF CAN SEE THERE, THIS IS LIKE THEIR SIGNAGE PLAN, IF YOU WILL.
THEY INTEND TO HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN, UH, UM, RIGHT THERE ON THE I 35 FRONTAGE.
BUT THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT SIGNS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THEIR SIGN PACKAGE
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THAT ALL ADDS UP TO THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY'RE ALLOTTED.THIS IS ALSO WHAT THEY SUBMITTED AS WELL.
SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A WAIVER.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING 580 SQUARE FEET OF TOTAL SIGNAGE, UH, THAT IS SPREAD OUT BETWEEN, UH, THE VARIOUS, UM, LETTER ICONS YOU SEE HERE.
THE BIGGEST ONE BEING THEIR MAIN SIGN, THE HOME DEPOT BEING A TOTAL OF 437 SQUARE FEET.
SO STAFF, UH, WE LOOKED AROUND DIFFERENT CITIES IN TEXAS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG THESE SIGNS WERE.
WE LOOKED AT FLOWER MOUND, WE CAN ONLY GET, UH, THAT MAIN SIGN WAS 290 SQUARE FEET.
SO A LITTLE SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE FOR 437.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UM, DALLAS 413 FOR THAT MAIN SIGN.
WE LOOKED AT B CAVE TEXAS 290 SQUARE FEET FOR THAT MAIN SIGN.
BUT THEY ALSO HAD ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TO, FOR THIS, THE SMALLER PRINT HERE AND SOME OF THE CONTRACTOR AND NURSERY AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF VARIATION.
UM, THERE'S NO REAL STANDARD SET SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, SO WHEN WE USED, UH, STAFF USE ART UDC, ARTICLE 21 11, 15 B AND C FOR THE ANALYSIS OF THEIR WAIVER REQUEST, UM, STAFF DETERMINED THAT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF IH 35 AND BEING A LARGE SUBDIVISION MIXED USE IN NATURE, A BIG DEVELOPMENT, THE APP, THE APPLICANT DID HAVE JUSTIFICATION FOR A LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGN.
UM, WE SUGGESTED A COMPROMISE CONSIDERING, UM, TO CONSIDER THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY BASED OFF OF INTERSTATE 35 RATHER THAN RICK CRIER.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS, UM, GIVING THE APPLICANT 350 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE RATHER THAN 580 THAT THEY REQUESTED.
AND 200 A GOOD, IT WAS A, A MEET IN THE MIDDLE FOR, UM, WHAT THE UDC WOULD ALLOW.
THAT'S KIND OF STAFF'S DIRECTION THERE.
SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A MEETING ON JULY 2ND, 2025 AND CONSIDERED THE WAIVER REQUEST.
UM, SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ONLY SIX MEMBERS WERE PRESENT.
UM, THE COMMISSION MADE TWO MOTIONS.
THE FIRST WAS TO APPROVE STAFF'S CONDITIONS APPROVED THE WAIVER WITH STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
IT RESULTED IN A THREE THREE TIE.
UH, A SECOND MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OF FIVE 80 ALSO TIED, ALSO FAILED.
AND SO THE RESULT WAS THAT THE HOME DEPOT WAS BASICALLY ALLOWED WHAT THE CODE WAS OFFERED.
SO THE CODE ONLY ALLOWED THEM 200 SQUARE FEET OF WALL SIGNAGE.
SO THEY APPEALED WHEN, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE APPLICANTS, UM, THEIR REASONING FOR THE APPEAL IS THAT SHIRTS DOES NOT HAVE APPROPRIATE REGULATIONS FOR STANDARD SIGN PACKAGES THAT ARE TYPICAL FOR LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEIR ARGUMENT WAS IS THAT THIS BUILDING'S BIG, WE NEED MORE SIGNAGE, UM, IN WHICH IT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR BUILDINGS OF THIS SIZE.
THEY ALSO SUBMITTED AN EXAMPLE, UH, OF ANOTHER BUILDING IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
KIND OF SHOWS YOU, KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THIS IS THE, UH, A NICE FANCY RENDER OF WHAT SHIRT STATION IS GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL DONE.
THIS BUILDING HERE KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THIS BUILDING.
UM, BUT IN THE APPLICANT'S REASONING, THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID THAT A, A BUILDING MUCH SMALLER AND ASSUMING THREE TENANTS WOULD GET 750 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE FOR THE TOTAL BUILDING.
AND THE APPLICANT'S NOT WRONG THERE IS FOR, IF THERE'S THREE TENANTS IN HERE, THEY WOULD EACH GET 250 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY OUR CODE IS WRITTEN.
SO THEIR, THEIR MAIN ARGUMENT IS THAT, WELL, OUR BUILDING IS BIGGER AND THIS MUCH SMALLER BUILDING WOULD GET MORE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE TENANTS IN IT.
AND THUS THAT'S HOW OUR CODE KIND OF ALLOTS SIGNAGE.
SO IN DECIDING THE APPEAL, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPEAL SHALL APPLY THE SAME CRITERIA THAT GOVERNED THE INITIAL DECISION.
THIS IS RIGHT OUT OF OUR UDC, SO I'M JUST GONNA WALK THROUGH THAT.
SO, NUMBER ONE, CONSIDER THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED USE OF THE LAND INVOLVED.
SO THE PROPOSED USE IS A LARGE HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER.
UM, THE, IT'S A COMPONENT OF A LARGER MIXED USE SUBDIVISION WITH MULTIFAMILY RETAIL RESTAURANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, NUMBER TWO, CONSIDER THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN RELATION TO THE ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION.
UH, SO THERE'S SEVERAL PUBLIC ROADWAYS, RICH CRU STATION ROAD, UH, MERIT LANE, PULLMAN DRIVE.
ALL THESE ARE PUBLIC ROADWAYS.
UM, AGAIN, SAF DETERMINED THAT IT WAS, IT WAS MORE FEASIBLE TO CONSIDER IT ADJACENT TO I 35 RATHER THAN RICH LER.
MADE A LITTLE MORE SENSE THAT WAY 'CAUSE THIS DOES ACT AS A REGIONAL DESTINATION CENTER, ESSENTIALLY
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AT THE CORNER OF 35 AND CI VALLEY DRIVE THE EXISTING LAND USES IN THE VICINITY.UM, SO EVERYTHING IN THE FRONT'S GONNA BE RESTAURANT RETAIL PAD SITES THAT WE KNOW OF AND EVOS TO RIGHT HERE TO THE LEFT, THERE'S MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING JUST TO THE REAR OF IT.
UM, AGAIN, SEARCH STATION IS THAT MIXED USE SUBDIVISION WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES GOING ON.
UH, SO THIS IS NUMBER ONE IN 21, UH, 1115 C.
THE GRANTING OF THE WAIVER WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY OR WELFARE OR INJU INJURIOUS TO OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA.
SO IT'S NOT DETRI STAFF DETERMINANTS.
IT'S NOT DETRIMENTAL TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
HOME DEPOT ACTUALLY BEING AN ANCHOR TENANT MAY ACTUALLY HELP SERVE TO DRIVE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.
UM, NUMBER TWO, STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THIS PROVISION WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER NEARBY PROPERTIES WITH THE SAME LAND USE THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE SAME PROVISIONS.
SO THE EVO SITE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, UM, HAS A SIMILAR LOCATION IN RELATION TO I 35.
UH, THEY WERE ALLOWED 478 SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGN.
AND THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE PDD PROCESS.
IT WASN'T A WAIVER REQUEST, IT WASN'T A VARIANCE.
THEY REQUESTED THAT IN THE PDD CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT THE HEB SITE.
SO HEB HAS 1200 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE.
IT'S A VERY, A A LOT OF SIGNAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THAT WAS DONE THROUGH A VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2013.
THEY HAVE 10 TOTAL SIGNS ON THE FRONT.
LOWE'S, UM, LOWE'S HAS APPROXIMATELY 510 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH A VARIANCE AS WELL.
WALMART, WALMART HAS 1,113 SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGN THAT WAS DONE THROUGH A VARIANCE IN 2004.
SO THERE'S SOME THERE, THERE'S SOME PRECEDENT HERE FOR ALLOWING A LOT BIGGER SIGNS ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT THE POINT OF ALL THAT WAS.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE REQUEST TO INCREASE, ALLOW ALLOWABLE WALL SIGNAGE SPACE TO FIVE AND 80, MAINLY BECAUSE WE JUST SUBMITTED THE CODE STAFF FEELS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH ALL THIS EFFORT TO DO THAT, SO WE SHOULD STICK TO THAT.
UM, BUT WE DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR CONSIDERING THIS AN I 35 PROPERTY AND NOT A RISK CRYSTAL PROPERTY.
SO WE WOULD STAFF SUPPORTS THE 300 SQUARE 50 SQUARE FOOT AS WE DID IN THE, UH, P AND Z CONSIDERATION.
SO THERE'S REALLY KIND OF FOUR OPTIONS HERE.
UH, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DECISION, WHICH WOULD BE TO BASICALLY UPHOLD THE DENIAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST, WHICH WOULD ONLY GIVE HOME DEPOT 200 SQUARE SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE.
UM, IT CAN REVERSE OR MODIFY THE DECISION.
IT CAN GO CITY COUNCIL CAN GO AS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
IT CAN GO WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, OR CITY COUNCIL CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING ON ITS OWN DISCRETION.
UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE IS IF WE ARE OKAY WITH BIGGER SIGNAGE, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD AMEND THE UDC ONE MORE TIME TO AND COME UP WITH A FIGURE FOR THAT AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, ONCE AGAIN, UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE EVENING? I'M, UH, AARON RINKY.
I'M THE ENGINEER WORKING FOR HOME DEPOT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON UH, SHIRT STATION FOR A WHILE.
SO THE ONLY THING, UM, I'LL ADD TO MR. HAAS'S REPORT, UH, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND FOR THIS MEETING.
THEY'RE INTERPRETING THE CODE AS IT IS TODAY, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
UM, HOME DEPOT, WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT WHAT THIS APPLICATION IS, THEY'RE APPLYING THEIR INTENDING TO INSTALL THEIR STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR CURRENT PROTOTYPE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAST POINT I'LL MAKE IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT OTHER MEETINGS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT, UH, PERHAPS CONSIDER AMENDING THE CODE AGAIN, BUT I THINK I, I STILL THINK THE CODE IS STILL DOING THE CITY A SERVICE BY REQUIRING LARGER BOX TENANTS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TO STILL COME UP FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.
THIS IS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MIC.
AND FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME'S SEAN CLEARY, UH, 35 96 OLD MOSS.
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TIME HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY.THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LEADING US.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, HOME DEPOT GOES, I AM A CURRENT MULTIPLE USER OF LOWE'S AND I HAVE TO RUN DOWN TO HOME DEPOT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE BECAUSE LOWE'S DOESN'T HAVE WHAT I WANT.
AND ON BEHALF OF HOME DEPOT, I'D LIKE TO SAY I WOULD THINK IT FAIR THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE THAT LOWE'S DOES BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BOTH OF 'EM AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE FAIR AS ONE THAT USES THEIR PRODUCTS FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MIC.
I'M THE OWNER OF 1 1 3 5 0 FLORES LUNA ROAD, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU AND SEE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I ALSO FEEL THAT LOWE'S HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT AS HOME DEPOT, AND IT'S KIND OF A GAME OF MINE IS BIGGER THAN YOURS.
I'M ALSO A COMEDIAN, SO EXCUSE MY HUMOR.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR ATTENDING AND FOR MAKING MY NIGHT SPECIAL.
I'VE BEEN IN, IN HOME AND TONIGHT'S HEARING HAS REALLY BEEN VERY SENTIMENTAL TO ME AND TO MANY, MANY LOWS CUSTOMERS.
SO I WOULD CONSIDER THAT YOU GIVE LOWE'S A CHANCE TO REPRESENT AND NOT SHOW ONE COMPANY LARGER THAN THE OTHER.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 7 32.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE NOW, HOME DEPOT IS NOT REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE UDC ITSELF.
IT'S RATHER A WAIVER TO INCREASE THE SIGNAGE FROM 350 TO 580 FEET.
NOW I UNDERSTAND CITY, UH, THE CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND IT WAS BASED ON THE CODE, WHAT THE PERMIT ALLOWS THEM.
BUT I DID SENSE SOME DOUBT WHEN YOU HAD YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, STAFF APPROPRIATELY APPLIED THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
HOWEVER, BY DEFINITION, A WAYFAIR IN THIS SITUATION, THE CITY GIVES UP ALL ITS RIGHTS TO APPLY THE UDC OR ANY ORDINANCE, BUT YET WE'D APPLIED THE ORDINANCE.
THEREFORE, I DID REQUEST THE C CITY LEADERSHIP RECONSIDER REISE.
THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION TO A NEUTRAL OR NO RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THAT FACT THAT THIS IS A WAIVER.
UNFORTUNATELY, CC CITY LEADERSHIP DID NOT MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL, THEY PLACED GREAT VALUE IN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND IT ACTUALLY DOES INFLUENCE THEIR DECISION.
AND IF WE LOOK AT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAD TWO VOTES, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE WAS ON THE FENCE, I BELIEVE.
I JUST WISH THE WIND WAS BLOWING A LITTLE HARDER THAT DAY SO THAT HE CAN FALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FENCE.
AND TWO OF THEM INDICATED THERE WAS NO HARDSHIP.
BUT THIS HARDSHIP IS NOT THE STANDARD IN THIS SITUATION.
SO I ASKED COUNSEL TO CONSIDER THE BROADER ASPECTS AND REASONING BEHIND THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS, THE POTENTIAL ADVANTAGES, AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY IMPACT REGARDING THE SIGN.
YOU KNOW, THE REAL QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS REQUEST IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
NOW, OUR CITY STAFF IS NOT EMPOWERED TO CONSIDER THE BROADER IMPACT REGARDING THIS SIGN.
THEY DIDN'T SEEK THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, ALTHOUGH THEY INVESTED
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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT.AND WE DIDN'T EVEN CHECK BECAUSE THAT'S NOT YOUR SCOPE.
YOUR SCOPE IS ONLY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR.
WE DID NOT SEEK THEIR RECOMMENDATION AFTER WE INVESTED $8 MILLION IN THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S WHY I HAD REQUESTED THAT CITY LEADERSHIP RECONSIDER YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU KNOW, HOME DEPOT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS AN ANCHOR STORE.
IT WAS ALSO INDICATED THIS IS A BIG BOX, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.
THIS IS A CRITICAL DRAW TO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, TO THE WHOLE SHIRT STATION THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THERE, 227,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY OWN ALMOST HALF OF IT.
THIS REQUEST IS NOT ABOUT THE SIGN, IT'S WHAT THE SIGN ACTUALLY REPRESENTS.
IT REPRESENTS SALES TAX REVENUE, THE FUNDS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE AT A TIME WHEN THE, WHEN THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE.
IT'S JOB CREATIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IT ALSO MOST IMPORTANT INCREASES THE TRAFFIC TO NEARBY BUSINESSES BOOSTING THEIR THEIRS CHANCES OF SUCCESS.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT EVIL, 60,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY SIT ON A HIGHER ELEVATION.
HOME DEPOT WAS 40 FEET DOWN FACING I 35.
AND BY CONTRAST, ASKING THEM FOR, YOU KNOW, ASKING ANOTHER A HUNDRED SOMETHING SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
AND THIS, YOU ALSO GAVE US COMPARISONS.
WALMART 1,113 SQUARE FEET, HEB 1,221 SQUARE FEET.
AND THIS WAS BEFORE WE MADE THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT'S WHAT THE WAIVER'S FOR.
YOU KNOW, UM, YOU ALSO GAVE US EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE PAD SITES WOULD, WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO DO.
40, LESS THAN 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, YET THEY CAN PUT UP, YOU KNOW, 750 MINIMUM, BECAUSE THEY COULD ASK, ALSO ASK FOR AN EXTRA A HUNDRED EACH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, YOU KNOW, SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS HOME DEPOT SIGNAGE REQUEST IS, IS IT A MODEST REQUEST? YES, IT IS.
IS IT PROPORTIONATE TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING? 100,000 SQUARE FEET? YES, IT IS.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THIS IS WHAT THE WAIVER WAS DESIGNED TO DO, IS TO PROVIDE COUNCIL AN OPTION WHEN SOMEONE COME COMING IN BIG, THAT WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON OUR CITY TO CONSIDER A MODEST REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE SPACE.
THIS IS NOT ON STAFF OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS THE WAY THE STAFF DESIGNED IT, IS TO ALLOW US TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
COUNCIL FLOORS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SO BASED UPON THE VARIANCES ALONE, YOU GET, YOU ALREADY GAVE THE EXAMPLES, WHETHER IT WAS A SMALLER UNIT, HEB, LOWE'S, WALMART, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, WITH HOME DEPOT'S REQUEST.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS THAT OUTLINE IN RED THAT, UM, HOME DEPOT SAID THAT THERE WASN'T, YOU HAVEN'T, YOU DON'T HAVE A UDC CODE.
YOU DON'T HAVE A CODE FOR LARGE BOX STORES.
YOU HAVE OTHER, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, UH, YOU HAVE TWO CATEGORIES, RIGHT? BUT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD.
YES, COUNCILMAN? SO YOU MAY RECALL YOU JUST APPROVED THIS ORDINANCE IN, WAS IT MAY, JUNE, JUNE, JUNE, JUNE 17TH.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IN TERMS OF THE CODE IS WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO FIT.
AND I THINK WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEETINGS TO, TO TALK ABOUT FLAGS AND, AND SIGNAGE.
AND SO THE, THE CHALLENGE WE HAD, I THINK THE APPROACH WAS HOW COMPLICATED AND NUANCED DO WE WANNA MAKE THE CODE TO, TO ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENT SIZE BUILDINGS AS OPPOSED TO HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA SIMPLIFY IT? AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE CAME TO WHAT WE DID.
AND AGAIN, AS SAM SAID, WE GAVE SOME PREFERENCE TO BUSINESSES THAT FRONT 35.
WELL, THIS ONE DOESN'T TECHNICALLY FRONT IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S SOME CAPS ON IT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S HOW THE, HOW THE
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CODE YOU APPROVED IS SET UP DUE TO THE VARIANCES AND THE SIZE THAT LOWE'S HAS.I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CANNOT GIVE THEM AS LEASED WHAT LOWE'S HAS.
SO, SO, SO, SO I THINK STAFF AND YOU, I UNDERSTAND COUNSEL MEAN, YOU, YOU NOTED, WE PUT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT IF COUNSEL'S POSITION IS, HEY, LOOK, IN THE PAST WE HAD A DIFFERENT CODE, DIFFERENT SIGNAGE.
WE, WE ALLOWED SIGNAGE TO GO MUCH BIGGER.
WE, WE REFERENCED THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT IS ONE REASON YOU MAY WANT TO DO THIS.
AND I THINK OUR POSITION SIMPLY WAS WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
WHAT WE WOULD SAY THEN IS IF THE FEELING IS BECAUSE WE HAD DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND, AND YOU HEARD THIS FROM FOLKS, IT SEEMS FAIR TO DO IT GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW THAT LARGER SIGNAGE THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST GOING FORWARD.
AND WE WOULD MAKE IT FRANKLY BY RIGHT.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EXTRA TIME AND THE UNKNOWN AND THE UNCERTAINTY OF REQUESTING THE WAIVER.
WE WOULD SIMPLY AMEND THE CODE.
YOU CAN APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, AND WE WOULD SIMPLY AMEND THE CODE.
AND YOU COULD ALLOW FOR BUILDINGS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, THEY CAN HAVE 1200 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE.
AND THAT'S A PERFECTLY VALID POSITION.
I THINK THE MAYOR, MUCH OF WHAT HE SUMMARIZED WAS ACCURATE.
IF, IF THE FEELING IS, HEY, BECAUSE WE ALLOWED THIS IN THE PAST, WE SHOULD ALLOW IT GOING FORWARD, THEN WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS YOU AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW THAT INCREASED SIGNAGE FOR EVERYBODY BY RIGHT GOING FORWARD AND SAVE THE TIME, SAVE THE UNKNOWN, SAVE THE EXPENSE GOING FORWARD.
AND, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE WHAT, UH, STAFF IS, IS UP AGAINST THERE.
UH, JUST 10 WEEKS AGO WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE AND, UH, AS, AS I LOOK BACK ON IT, I'M NOT SURE IF WE SAW ALL THE EXAMPLES THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO SEE.
UH, 'CAUSE IT JUST, JUST IN YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT WALMART, HEB, AMAZON, EVO, LOWE'S, EVERY ONE OF 'EM HAD EITHER A WAIVER OR EXCEPTION OR SOMETHING TO WHATEVER OUR STANDARD WAS AT THE TIME.
AND I REMEMBER AMAZON EVEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A, THEY WERE LIMITED TO 250 SQUARE FEET TOO.
AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON A MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
OKAY? AND SO WE KIND OF, UH, PAINTED OURSELVES INTO SOME, SOME CORNERS THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST ON A PRACTICAL BASIS, YOU KNOW, LOWE'S HAS GOT FIVE LETTERS.
HOME DEPOT'S GOT 12, YOU KNOW,
YEAH, JUST FROM THE SIZE, THE SIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THING, YOU KNOW, AND PLUS THEIR NATIONAL, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NATIONAL BRANDS.
THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A LOOK, A STANDARD LOOK THAT THEY WANT, UH, GET.
AND YES, YOU CAN FIND, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, FIND VARIATIONS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT I AM SURE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM FIT THAT, YOU KNOW, 550, 600, 650 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUMS. WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO, RIGHT? AND, AND AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, THIS IS THEIR STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE.
AND AGAIN, WE COULD AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW THE STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE THAT NATIONAL CHAINS HAVE.
AGAIN, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PENALIZE THE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES SO WE COULD ALLOW THEM TO, UH, REFERENCE A, A, A NATIONAL CHAIN AND UTILIZE THAT SIZE AS THE REQUIREMENT.
SO YEAH, WE COULD CERTAINLY AMEND THE CODE TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW, WHAT IS THE STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE OF FOLKS COMING FORWARD? AND THAT'S, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY WANT TO EXPLORE TO WHAT DEGREE DO WE REALLY NEED THE SIZE LIMITATIONS AT ALL? I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VALID PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 130,000 SQUARE BUILDINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT BE, UH, WELCOMING TO THESE LARGE, UH, ESPECIALLY RETAIL, UH, UH, BUYER OR, UH, PRODUCTS IN, IN, IN THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY.
IT, IT HELPS OUR, OUR CITIZENS GET, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF CHOICE FOR THEIR SHOPPING, UH, WHETHER IT'S RUNNING UP FOR A, YOU KNOW, A SCREW OR BUYING A, UH, A LAWNMOWER OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.
SO IT'S ALL IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY.
AND EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS GROWTH GO DOWN IN THE SOUTHERN SHIRTS AREA ALONG I 10, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU'RE GETTING AROUND HIGHWAYS, PEOPLE WANT BIG SIGNS, WHETHER YOU HAVE A A MONUMENT SIGN OR NOT, THEY WANT THEIR STORE TO STAND OUT, YOU KNOW? AND YES, A 1200 SQUARE FOOT STOREFRONT DOESN'T NEED 750 SQUARE FEET.
YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, 830,000 SQUARE FOOT STORE THAT HAS A NATIONAL STANDARD, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU WALK UP TO LOWE'S, HOME DEPOT, WHATEVER, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A GARDEN CENTER SIGN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LUMBER SIGN IN ADDITION TO THE MAIN SIGN.
SO WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE ACCEPTING OF THAT.
AND IF THAT MEANS AMENDING THE UDC, I MEAN, I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
IF WE, IF WE CLEARLY SPELL IT OUT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WAIVER OR AN EXCEPTION OF POLICY ALL THE TIME.
UH, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THIS CASE.
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COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO.SO, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST ON THIS, BUT GOING BACK TO THE, THE WAIVER PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST WAIVER THAT WE'VE HAD COME THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A, AN EXCEPTION OF A, OF A BUILDING.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TENANTS SUCH AS THIS COMING THROUGH, ASKING FOR A LARGER SIGN THAT I'M AWARE OF YOU WRONG.
WE HAVE A, WE, WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT THAT ASK FOR A LARGER SIGNAGE, AND THE STAFF SAYS, WELL, THIS IS OUR
I MEAN, AGAIN, REMEMBER THE FEATHER FLAG? YEAH.
RIGHT? SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, WE HAD THE BOB MILLS AND THEIR STANDARD IS THEY PUT OUT DOZEN OR SO FEATHER FLAGS, MAN, THAT TYPICALLY IS WHAT THEY DO TO PROMOTE, WELL, I GUESS I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SIGNS THAT WE'RE COMING.
WE GET THAT FAIRLY OFTEN DISCUSSING HERE.
I MEAN, WE, SO, UM, I I GUESS AT THAT POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOUR BIG BOX LOCATIONS, WE SHOULD HAVE YOU A CHANGE IN OUR, IN OUR CODE.
UH, I JUST, I I ALSO DON'T SEE THE ISSUE WITH THE WAIVER NECESSARILY.
UH, OR THEM APPEALING, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY.
UM, WHAT KIND OF DELAY DOES THAT PUT ON THE PROCESS BY HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT? SO I THINK A, A COUPLE OF THINGS, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK THERE ARE TWO DISADVANTAGES AND THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY NOD, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY TWO TO THREE MONTHS FROM WHEN THEY SUBMIT, PREPARE THE STUFF, SEND OUT THE NOTICE, GET 'EM ON A PNZ AGENDA.
UH, SO THERE'S A DELAY OF TWO OR TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
UH, THE OTHER BIG ONE IS IT'S THAT UNCERTAINTY, RIGHT? THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA GET IT OR NOT.
AND, AND THEY HAVE THIS, THIS WHOLE KIND OF THING GOING FORWARD, RIGHT? IT'S, THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THE APPLICANT WHO ASSUMES, WELL, THEY LOOK AT THE WAIVER REQUIREMENTS, AND IF THE WAIVER REQUIREMENTS SAY, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY I WOULD GET IT BASED ON THAT, THEN THEY MAY NOT EVEN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, RIGHT? UM, SO CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, AT MINIMAL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS BASED ON THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD HERE, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S A NATIONAL CHAIN, IF IT BRINGS ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THEN THAT WOULD BE A BASIS FOR THE WAIVER.
UM, I WOULD SAY THIS, IT'S PRETTY RARE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY COME FORWARD, AND I DON'T SEE LISA BACK HERE.
SHE MAY NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE THAT ARGUMENT, RIGHT? IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FEATHER FLAG, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE.
AND SO I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, AGAIN, IF WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THIS IS ONE BASIS WOULD BE IF IT'S THE TYPICAL SIGN PACKAGE FOR THE COMPANY, AND IF THEY PROVIDE MAKES THEM MORE SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST ARE GONNA ARGUE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY THEY SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THE SIGNAGE.
AND I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO DISADVANTAGE THE MOM AND POP TO ME BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT SIGN PACKAGE, RIGHT? IF YOU GET THOSE TWO, THE, THE NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANT, YOU GET THE MOM AND POP.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO DISADVANTAGE THE MOM AND POP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A NATIONAL CHANGE TO ME.
THEY WILL WANT THE SAME AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE TO COMPETE.
AND SO THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHEN WOULD WE EVER DENY THE WAIVER FOR SIGNAGE? AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE STAFF SAYS, HEY, THEN LET'S STREAMLINE THIS, RIGHT? LET'S MAKE IT EASIER.
LET, LET'S JUST AMEND THE CODE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT DELAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT UNKNOWN, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT UNCERTAINTY, AND WE'RE NOT PENALIZING THE MOM AND POP, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS WHAT THE INTENT WAS.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THIS ISSUE OF, WELL, YOU'RE A BIG BUCKS BECAUSE YOU'RE THIS MANY SQUARE FEET, BUT THE GUY JUST BELOW IT, HE DOESN'T GET IT.
RIGHT? HE'S, THAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH HIM.
AND SO I THINK STAFF IS CERTAINLY FINE WITH COMING BACK WITH SOME AMENDMENTS TO TALK TO COUNCIL.
WHAT WE WOULD TEND TO RECOMMEND IS IF WE'RE GOING TO GENERALLY APPROVE THESE, THEN, THEN WHY PUT THE WAIVER IN AND MAKE 'EM GO THROUGH THAT TROUBLE? LET'S STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.
LET'S NOT PUT P AND Z IN THAT POSITION.
AND IF THE BASIS OF THE WAIVER IS THAT'S THE SIGNED PACKAGE, THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THEY BRING ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WHO WALKS THROUGH OUR DOOR SAYS.
AND SO OUR IT WE'RE JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS THEN TO APPROVE THAT.
WELL, IN THIS SITUATION FOR CLARITY, IT'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY BROUGHT UP TO COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS A THREE, THREE TIE.
IF, IF THE, IF THE P AND Z HAD VOTED FOR IT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN COME, YOU WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
BUT I THINK STAFF'S POSITIONS, WHY EVEN MAKE HIM GO THROUGH THAT TWO OR THREE MONTH DELAY? WHY THE UNCERTAINTY, WHY THE COST OF HAVING THE APPLICANT COME OUT, SPEND TIME AWAY FROM HIS FAMILY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST LET'S BUILD IT INTO THE CODE.
AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, FOR CLARITY, IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE STAFF IS, IS FOLLOWING THE UDC MM-HMM
THEY COULD, THEY COULD ALLOW THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY HAD THREE 50.
BUT I DID LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY TO, TO MR. HAAS'S PRESENTATION.
BY PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE, IT MADE ME GUESS THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY
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CONSIDER ON APPROVING THIS, WHERE WE HAVE OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAVE BIGGER TWICE AS BIG.I THINK STAFF IS HERE TO SAY, LOOK, IF YOUR FEELING IS THE BASIS IS WE REALLY OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, WHETHER THIS IS THEIR STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE, WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE THIS MAKES THEM MORE SUCCESSFUL, WHETHER THEY ARGUE THIS BRINGS ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER SOMEONE IN THE PAST UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF STANDARDS WAS ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING, THEN WE SHOULD HONOR THAT.
THEN, THEN STAFF WOULD SAY, YEAH, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD APPROVE THIS TONIGHT AND, AND DIRECT US TO COME BACK TO YOU IN A MEETING OR TWO WITH A MODIFIED CODE THAT BUILDS THAT IN.
I THINK STAFF'S ONLY THING WOULD BE WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
WE'RE TRYING TO ADD GREATER CLARITY.
AND IF THAT'S THE BASIS OF COUNCIL'S DECISION, THEN, THEN I THINK YEAH, WE OUGHT TO STRONGLY REVISIT OUR SIGN CODE AS TO WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.
BUT THESE LIMITATIONS ARE PLACED BY THIS COUNCIL.
BUT AGAIN, AS, AS COUNCILMAN BROWN SAID, SOMETIMES AGAIN, IF, IF, IF IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT 'EM IN THE ABSTRACT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, MAYOR, IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE ABSTRACT, IT'S ANOTHER TO TELL SOMEBODY NO.
RIGHT? AND TO SEE IT IN PRACTICE.
AND IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO TELL SOMEBODY NO WHO COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS OUR STANDARD SIGN PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS IN KIRBY, WE CAN DO THIS IN CONVERSE, THEN THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT HERE AND LET'S MODIFY THE CODE ACCORDINGLY.
UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER G**O? YES.
UH, UH, MR. JAMES THE, UH, THE EVIL, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, CORRECT? MM-HMM
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A SMALLER BUILDING THAN THE ONE THAT'S SMALLER BUILDING THAN THIS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BIGGER SIGN.
SO IS IT A REASONABLE REQUEST? ABSOLUTELY.
I I, I TOTALLY CONCUR WITH THAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, 350 IS WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED WELL, IT, THEY'RE ALLOWED LESS THAN THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED FEET.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU COULD DO, AS SAM SAID, IS YOU CAN USE COUNCIL DISCRETION.
I THINK THE LARGEST SIGN WE HAD WAS 1200 SQUARE FEET.
YOU, YOU MIGHT WANNA APPROVE THIS UP TO 1200 SQUARE FEET AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO INCREASE THE SIGNAGE TO MATCH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BIGGEST SCENARIO.
WHY LIMIT THEM TO EVO IF WE'VE DONE THE 1200 FOR SOMEBODY ELSE? THAT MAY BE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO TO HERE, TO BE FAIR.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY STAFF HAS TAKEN NOTES AND WE'RE, WE'RE REMEMBERING SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THAT SIGN CODE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN OPTION THAT SAYS 1200 SQUARE FEET OR, OR TO WHAT DEGREE DO WE REGULATE.
OKAY, WELL THE, THE APPLICANTS HERE, I MEAN, YOU LIKE THAT IT IS 580, IS THAT, THAT WAS YOUR INITIAL REQUEST? YEAH, HE MAY HAVE LIMITED IT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE MOST HE COULD GET.
WELL, THAT'S JUST WHAT THE STANDARD HOME DEPOT STANDARD IS.
SO THAT'S, THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR
AND THAT'S ADD UP ALL THE SIGNS ON THE FRONT.
YEAH, I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE, MR. JAMES, IS IT A REASONABLE REQUEST? YES, IT'S OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, UM, I, I'M NOT OF THE IDEA OF JUST NOT ASKING FOR A WAIVER BECAUSE WE PUT SIGN ORDINANCE IN PLACE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA LOOK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE WANTED CERTAIN, A CERTAIN LOOK FOR THE CITY OF CHURCH, SO WE WANTED A CERTAIN, UM, APPEAL FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SIGNUPS.
AND I, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UM, COMPANIES CAN GO BACK TO LIKE WALMART AND LOWE'S, AND THERE WERE TONS OF YEARS BETWEEN THEM WHEN THEY GOT THE WAIVER.
IT WASN'T LIKE EVERY YEAR SOMEBODY WANTED A WAIVER.
WE HAD 2004, 2013, 2007 MM-HMM
AND SO IT WASN'T LIKE A LOT OF THEM CAME UP.
SO I'M STILL OF THE IDEA OF WE KEEP OUR SIGN ORDINANCE THE WAY IT IS AND IF THEY WANT A LARGER SIGN, THEY CAN REQUEST A WAIVER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING AS YOU'RE, I THINK BEING DRASTIC AND GOING 1200 SQUARE FEET, I THINK THAT'S OVERKILL.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO TO THAT EXTENT.
I THINK IT'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE THEM IN PLACE AND IT'S THE, THE LOOK AND APPEAL OF SHIRTS THAT WE WANNA GO FOR.
WE DON'T WANNA BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WITH THESE BIG HUGE GAUDY SIGNS FROM EVERYWHERE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE HOME DEPOT IS AND THEIR LOCATION, I GET IT, BUT I DON'T WANNA CHANGE OUR CODE FROM THE WAY IT WAS BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE SAYING IF WE DON'T HAVE A CODE, THEN ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY CAN PUT THESE HUGE SIGNS UP ALL OVER THE CITY AND THEN THAT CHANGES THE WAY THE FEEL AND LOOK OF SHIRTS.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT.
I WANNA MAINTAIN THE WAY WE HAVE OUR FEEL AND LOOK.
COUNCILOR, COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, I WANTED TO,
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UM, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND SIGNAGE.SO LEMME BACK UP BECAUSE MY MIC IS HOT.
UM, AND I WANTED TO MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE, THE ORDINANCE.
SO IF I CAN, I CAN, WHICH ONE ARE YOU APPROVE? THE, I WANTED TO MOTION THAT WE APPROVE P-L-A-P-P 2 2 5 0 180 7.
DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST? YES.
SECOND MOTIONS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YES.
MAYOR, I'D STILL LIKE TO SORT OF SEE WHAT YOUR, UH, WHAT BRIAN JAMES AND HIS, UH, STAFF COULD COME UP WITH IN TERMS OF A UDC.
WE TOOK THAT AS PART OF, UH, COUNCILWOMAN WATSON'S COMMENTS, SO WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, UH, NEXT MEETING, THE MEETING AFTER, UH, WITH SOME DISCUSSIONS AND WE'LL PROBABLY SCHEDULE THOSE OUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN KIND OF HOW MUCH WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEATHER FLAGS.
IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE A, A NUMBER OF MEETINGS TO GET THERE ON THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEAH, UH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN SAID.
WE, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT, MAYBE A WORKSHOP, UH, OR TWO COMING UP TO, UH, TO LET US ALL MAKE OUR OUR POINTS AND GO FROM THERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO COMMENTS? YEAH, I'LL BE QUICK JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M, I'M UNDERSTOOD.
I, I THINK ME AND COUNCILMAN HAYWARD ARE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE PROCESS BEING BROKEN JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE APPEAL HERE TODAY AND, UH, I KIND OF THINK SOME CERTAIN, UM, PROPOSALS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUALLY.
SO I JUST, THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT.
MOTIONS MAY MADE TO APPROVE P-L-A-P-P 2 0 2 5 0.
LET ME, MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO APPROVE P-L-A-P-P 2 2 5 0 1 8 7 BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
[8. Ordinance 25-T-033 – Conduct a Public Hearing and approve an Ordinance approving the appraisal roll; setting the tax rate; levying and assessing general and special ad valorem taxes for the use and support of the municipal government of the City of Schertz, Texas (S.Gonzalez/J.Walters)]
EIGHT, ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 T 0 3 3.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE APPRAISAL ROLE, SETTING THE TAX RATE, LIVING AND ASSESSING THE GENERAL AND SPECIAL VALORIAN TAXES FOR THE USE AND SUPPORT OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF SHEZ, TEXAS.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN JAMES WALTERS.
I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR HERE FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY, THE OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE OF 2025 AS $5.7 BILLION.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME DVHS IMPACTS, UH, AFFECTING OUR, OUR TAX ROLE AND OUR TAX RATE, UM, THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ASK THE, UH, THE STATE TO, UH, UPDATE THEIR RULES ON THEIR AID PROCEDURE AND PROVIDE MORE FUNDING.
SO THE STATE HAS THIS CALCULATE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF A NO NEW REVENUE SHOULD GET US THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE CURRENT YEAR'S, UH, PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE IN LAST YEAR.
SO IF WE GO WITH THAT, WE DIDN'T ADD ANY HOMES, WE WOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS IF WE WENT WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE HIGHEST RATE.
COUNCIL CAN ADOPT THAT GOING TO THE VOTERS.
THE PROPOSED FROM STAFF IS, UH, 51 18.
THAT IS THE, UH, TAX RATE THAT'LL FUND THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A M AND O FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
UH, 0.3437 WITH AN INS TO PAY CITY'S DEBT AT 1 6 8, 1 FOR THE TOTAL OF 0.5118 FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, 5 1 1 8.
UH, WE COULD EXPECT THE AVERAGE BILL INCREASE TO BE ABOUT $17 AND 92 CENTS, OR A 1.1% INCREASE, EFFECTIVE INCREASE IN THE TAXES.
UH, HERE IS THE HISTORIC REVIEW OF ALL THE TAX RATES AND, UH, THIS IS, UM, UP FOR COUNSEL OF PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, THAT 5 1 1 8 IS IN THE PACKET AND THAT IS THE RATE THAT WAS, UH, WOULD FUND THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST TAX RATE.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, NOW MET THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ON ALL THE PUBLICATIONS AND NOTICES.
UH, SO, SO NOW WE CAN TAKE THE VOTE.
THIS IS ON THE AGENDA AS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
RIGHT? EIGHT O'CLOCK PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
COUNSEL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER
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BROWN IS COMMUNITY IMPACT HERE TONIGHT? YEAH, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT.UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY DO A LOT OF LOCAL REPORTING AND THEY DO REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WHATNOT AND, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 0.5118, UH, TAX RATE, UH, AT THE LAST LAST MEETING, THEY REPORTED THAT, BUT THEY FORGOT ABOUT THE DVHS OFFSET.
THEY NEVER MENTIONED THAT AT ALL.
AND, AND I WANNA MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A HUGE OFFSET THERE.
AND JAMES, COULD YOU PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP? YES.
AND, AND IF WE HAD THE STATE APPROVING OR REIMBURSING US, UH, THE $5.7 MILLION, WE COULD ACTUALLY LOWER OUR, OUR TAX RATE TO 0.4091.
IT'S NOT THAT WE WANNA RAISE OUR TAX RATE, IT'S JUST THE STATE IS NOT REIMBURSING US FOR WHAT THE, UH, THE DV OFFSET IS BY A LONG SHOT.
AND, UH, UH, IT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THE DV, UH, HOMESTEAD GO AWAY.
WE ALL SUPPORT THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE STATE MADE PROMISES TO, UH, REIMBURSE THOSE OF US THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN LIVING UP TO THAT.
SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT JUST RAMPANT SPENDING YOUR MONEY.
THIS IS MAKING UP FOR A, A, UH, AN OFFSET THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE.
NOW YOU MADE A VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STATEMENT YOU MADE ACTUALLY CLARIFIES WHY OUR RATE IS, UH, BEING INCREASED IS THE HIT ON THE DISABLED VETERANS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PROGRAM.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THERE IS SPECIAL LANGUAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE READ FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS ONE HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO? YES, I I ALSO AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN.
UH, THE STATE NEEDS TO DEFINITELY PAY US THAT MONEY, OTHERWISE IF, IF THEY DID PAY US THE MONEY, WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE.
HAY, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.5118, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 1.1% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.
SECOND, HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE CAN PUBLISH THE VOTE, PLEASE.
THIS DOES REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY AND IT IS, UH, FIVE TWO, IT MEETS THE THRESHOLD, THE SUPER MAJORITY MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE HERE FOR
[9. Resolution 25-R-101 - Conduct a public hearing regarding annexation vs. land use regulation related to Resolution 25-R-101 Special Election for properties within a five-mile boundary of JBSA-Randolph (Mayor/B.James/S.Edmondson)]
ITEM NUMBER NINE.RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 RS 1 0 1.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE ANNEXATION VERSUS LAND USE REGULATIONS RELATED TO RESOLUTION 25 R 1 0 1 SPECIAL ELECTION FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE FIVE MILE BOUNDARY OF JOINT BASE.
SAN ANTONIO RANDOLPH, MS. EDMONDSON.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENCE.
I'M CITY SECRETARY TONIGHT, UM, THIS IS A HEARING FOR, UH, TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR SPECIAL ELECTION RESOLUTION 25 R 1 0 1.
ON AUGUST 5TH, 2025, CITY COUNCIL PASSED RESOLUTION 25 R 1 0 1, ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE QUALIFIED VOTERS WITHIN THE CITY OF SCHERTZ ETJ AND WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE JOINT BASE, SAN ANTONIO RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE TO DECIDE SHOULD THEY BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OR WHETHER THE CITY SHALL BE PROVIDED THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND ENFORCED AN ORDINANCE REGULATING THE LAND USE BASED ON THE MOST RECENT JAN JU STUDY, JOINT LAND USE STUDY.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION PROPOSITION.
A PROPOSITION A IF THE VOTERS CHOSE OPTION ONE, WHAT AUTHORIZED THE CITY SHIRTS TO ANNEX FOR FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, AND WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE JOINT BASE, SAN ANTONIO CITY SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ANNEXATION IN IF VOTERS VOTED OPTION TWO.
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THE CITY OF SHIRTS INSTEAD OF ANNEXING THE AREA TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE THE AN ORDINANCE REGULATING THE LAND USE ZONING COMMEND RECOMMENDED BY THE MOST RECENT JOINT LAND USE STUDY FOR NOTIFICATIONS ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.UH, A CERTIFIED LETTER, 203 CERTIFIED LETTERS WERE SENT WERE SENT OUT ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2025 TO ALL THE, THE AFFECTED AREAS WITH A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION, AN EXPLANATION OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION, A MAP OF THE ARIES, AND THOSE AFFECTED IN THIS EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
THERE WAS A TOTAL OF A, UH, 203, UH, CERTIFIED MAILINGS.
SO FAR, 130 HAVE RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED MAIL.
WE RECEIVED THE CARDS BACK, 51, UM, NOTICES WERE RETURNED AND 22 WERE OUTSTANDING.
THE CITY OF SHIRTS WILL CONDUCT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025, AND ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025 AT THE CHIR CITY COUNCIL'S CHAMBERS DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND MR. UH, BRIAN JAMES WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
DO YOU REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WHO'S ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THIS ELECTION? THE FOLKS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THIS, UH, HERE, LEMME GO BACK TO THE MAP.
THE REGISTERED VOTERS OF BEXAR COUNTY WHO RECEIVED, UM, WHO LIVE IN THESE WHO'VE REGISTERED TO VOTE WITH THESE ADDRESSES THAT ARE LISTED, ARE ABLE TO VOTE IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION.
SO THEY MUST BE REGISTERED VOTERS.
WELL, THERE COULD BE MORE THAN 203 IF THERE'S MORE THAN TWO RESIDENTS IN THERE.
AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE THING TO BE CLEAR ON IS IF THERE'S A SOMEONE WHO OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT DOES NOT RESIDE THERE, THEY DID NOT TO REGISTER TO VOTE WITH THAT AS THEIR ADDRESS, THEN THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THE ELECTION.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, DOESN'T OWN IT, THEY'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE FROM THAT ADDRESS, THEY CAN VOTE AGAIN.
IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN A HOUSEHOLD, MOTHER, FATHER, A FEW ADULT KIDS, THEY CAN ALL VOTE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE, BE REGISTERED TO VOTE ON THIS ADDRESS, ONE OF THE ADDRESSES WITHIN THE AREA.
I'LL CORRECT THAT ON THE NEXT DAY.
AND IF, IF THERE'S A INDIVIDUAL DOWN THERE THAT OWNS MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN GREEN, THEY ONLY VOTE ONE TIME, CORRECT? ONE VOTE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO RESIDE AND BE REGISTERED AT ONE OF THOSE ADDRESSES.
SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR, FOR FOLKS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, SO AGAIN, IS, AND, AND I'LL BE FAIRLY QUICK, I THINK WHAT STAFF INTENDED FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS REALLY TO LISTEN TO FOLKS.
UH, IT'S REALLY OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, SO WE WANT TO TAKE SOME NOTES, WE WANNA TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS, WE WANT TO GO BACK AND WE WANT TO TRY TO PULL ANSWERS AS OPPOSED TO DO A WHOLE LOT OF TALKING.
BUT JUST TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE, THE MOST RECENT JL WAS PRODUCED IN JULY, 2015.
I CAN APPRECIATE, UH, STEVE'S COMMENTS EARLIER.
ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IF THAT JWS IS UPDATED THEORETICALLY, THEN WE, WE WOULD MODIFY OUR REGULATIONS FOR THAT.
SO THAT MAY MEAN WE MAY ADD SOME REGULATIONS, TAKE SOME AWAY.
IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY, THE ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION 15, R 96.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF THIS IS THE OPTION CHOSEN BY VOTERS, THIS WOULD BE THE DOCUMENT WE'D LOOK TO.
NOW, I'LL SAY THIS REAL QUICK.
I THINK STAFF IS ASSUMING THIS IS THE WAY THAT ELECTION IS GOING TO GO.
AGAIN, WE FOUND A COUPLE CASES WHERE SAN ANTONIO DID THIS.
GENERALLY ABOUT 85% OF THE VOTE WAS FOR THE LAND USE REGULATION.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE ANTICIPATING, BUT IT IS UP FOR THE ELECTION.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS HOW, WHAT IS THE MECHANISM FOR ENSURING COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE CAN PASS THESE REGULATIONS, BUT HOW DO FOLKS KNOW? IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING ALLOWED? IS IT NOT? DOES IT VIOLATE, DOES IT NOT? SO THERE GENERALLY HAS TO BE SOME MECHANISM WE WOULD PUT IN PLACE, UH, FOR FOLKS BEFORE THEY DID SOME WORK TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS ALLOWED OR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVE IT IN THE CODE.
AND THEN AGAIN, VIOLATIONS WOULD BE DEALT WITH HOW WE TYPICALLY DEAL WITH VIOLATIONS.
AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS AS, AS MR. LAYTON DID TO READ THE JL UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, BUT AS HE SAID, IF YOU GET TOWARD THE BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE REALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND SAY WHAT APPLIES, WHAT DOESN'T.
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THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS APPLIES TO ALL THE PROPERTIES.SO AGAIN, THERE WILL BE SOME ELEMENTS OF THIS THAT THERE'LL BE A REGULATION ON SOME PROPERTIES, BUT NOT OTHERS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROXIMITY, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE, THE A PZ OR THE CLEAR ZONE.
UH, BUT A COUPLE AREAS TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT KIND OF, UH, IMPACT WHAT'S REGULATED.
IT'S THE BIRD AIRSTRIKE HAZARD, A BASH SUB ZONE.
IT'S THE VERTICAL OBSTRUCTION, AGAIN, THE THE HEIGHT ISSUE, IT'S THE SAFETY, UM, SUB ZONE AS WELL.
AND THEN IT'S THE NOISE, UM, SUB ZONE.
AND THOSE ARE MILITARY INFLUENCE SUB ZONES.
SO NOISE, SAFETY, VERTICAL OBSTRUCTIONS, DUST GLARE, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, ARE WHAT IT PLAYS INTO.
AND IN CERTAINLY SOME AREAS, UH, IT'S DENSITY OF LAND USE AS WELL.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, GENERALLY ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES WOULD BE THROUGH THE ZONING OR SUBDIVISION REGULATION AND A SPECIAL REGULATION ORDINANCE PASS.
BUT POTENTIAL REGULATIONS, JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE A FEEL FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.
IT MAY BE PROHIBITS CERTAIN LAND USES WITHIN THE NOISE CONTOURS THAT ARE IN THE J LS AND OR REQUIRING SOUND ATTENUATION LIMITATION ON THE HEIGHTS.
THAT'S REALLY, I THINK THE PRIMARY ONE.
AND AGAIN, AS, AS MR. LAYTON SAID, RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF CRANES, POTENTIALLY THERE, LIGHTING RESTRICTIONS, THE DARK SKIES, BUT AS WELL AS REFLEXIVITY.
THERE MAY BE SOME LIMITS ON DENSITY OR FLOOR AREA RATIO IN SOME OF THE AREAS.
AND THEN AGAIN, REGULATIONS REDUCE THE BO BO UH, BIRD AIRSTRIKE HAZARD.
UH, AND THEN POTENTIALLY SOME GENERAL RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPE OF LAND USE THAT INHERENTLY GENERATE DUST, NOISE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE A FACTOR ON SOME OF THE PROPERTIES.
UM, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE SAID IS WE HOLD OFF MAKING THAT FINAL DECISION ON WHAT WE WANNA REGULATE TILL WE HAVE AT LEAST THIS FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE CAN REALLY HEAR FROM FOLKS WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF FIND SOME WIN-WINS AS WAYS TO DO THIS THAT, UH, MAKES THE PROCESS, UM, AS LEAST OWNERS AS POSSIBLE ON THEM, AND YET PROTECTS THE MISSION OF JBSA AND STREAMLINES IT.
AND THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS, AGAIN, BASED ON THAT WE COULD EVEN DRAFT, UH, A DRAFT ORDINANCE OF WHAT THOSE MAY LOOK LIKE AND HAVE THOSE FOR OCTOBER, SO THAT AT LEAST WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF SEE IT ON PAPER AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE.
UH, SO THAT WAS ALL STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
BEFORE I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW ALL OF YOU GOT PIECES OF PAPER AND SAY, WHAT THE HELL IS THE CITY DOING, RIGHT? I WANNA CLARIFY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
MS. ANDERSON, IF YOU, UH, PUT SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.
OKAY, THIS COUNCIL ORDERED A SPECIAL ELECTION TO GIVE YOU ALL AN OPTION.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, AND THE REASON THIS COUNCIL PUT THIS ON THE, ON, ON THE BALLOT IS BECAUSE WE WANNA PROTECT THE MISSION AT JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO RANDOLPH.
AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY THAT WE THOUGHT OF, UH, JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT.
UH, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE DO HAVE RANDOLPH, UH, HERE.
THEY PROTECT, NOT, THEY PUT SO MUCH MONEY INTO OUR ECONOMY.
NOT ONLY THAT, THEY PROTECT OUR NATION.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS COUNCIL DECIDED THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE LANDOWNERS AN OPTION.
OPTION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS, UH, I'M SORRY.
YOUR FIRST OPTION IS ANNEXATION, IS WHAT IT'S SAYING.
THERE'S ONLY TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.
AND I WANNA PUT IN PLAIN AND SIMPLE TERMS. OPTION NUMBER ONE, YOU BECOME PART OF THE CITY.
WE PROVIDE FIRE, EMS, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO PAY CITY TAXES.
THAT'S WHAT IT, THAT'S WHAT OPTION A MEANS.
OKAY? OPTION TWO, UH, PAGE FIVE, PLEASE.
OPTION TWO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY CITY TAXES, BUT WE DO CONTROL WHAT YOU PUT ON YOUR LAND.
IT SERVES AS IT, IT SERVES TWO PURPOSES HERE.
IF YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE 20 ACRES OF LAND AND THE BUILDER COMES AND SAYS, I WANNA BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WELL, THE OTHER PERSON DOESN'T WANT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO WE CAN CONTROL EXACTLY WHAT GOES IN THERE BY DOING A RE ZONING OVERLAY ON YOUR LAND.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT NOW.
IT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
IF YOU DECIDE TO SELL YOUR LAND TO A DEVELOPER.
WE CAN CONTROL WHAT GOES IN THERE WITH THE ZONING.
THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS.
OPTION A, OPTION B, WHEN YOU VOTE,
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YOU KNOW, UH, THE LESSER THE TWO EVILS IS OPTION TWO.SO IF THERE'S A TIE, YOU GET OPTION TWO.
OKAY? SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE WAY THAT THIS SPECIAL ELECTION IS DESIGNED TO, TO DO IS NOT TOUCH YOUR LAND FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, BUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO IT IN THE FUTURE.
YOU EITHER WANNA ANNEX IT OR WE CONTROL THE ZONING.
THAT'S PLAIN AND SIMPLE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
BUT YOU GOT ALL THESE LITTLE PIECES OF PAPER.
'CAUSE I SAW THAT ENVELOPE AND IT WAS SO THICK AND YOU YEAH.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR AND SIMPLE, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL, IT IS EIGHT 15.
THIS IS AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS.
PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MAYOR GUTIERREZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGEMENT.
I AM STEVEN LAYTON LIVING AT 1 2, 2 3, 1 LOST MARRIAGE DRIVE.
MY FIRST OF TWO TOPICS, RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE'S PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE STATED IN 2017, WE DON'T IMPOSE OUR WILL ON THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP AND DECISIONS ARE MADE BY INFORMED PEOPLE.
NEXT POINT, THE AIR FORCE'S LAND USE STUDY STATES THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER AND POTENTIALLY DEVELOP PLANS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT CONSIDER DOES NOT CREATE AN EDICT.
NEXT POINT, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE STATES A MUNICIPALITY MAY ANNEX FOR FULL OR LIMITED PURPOSES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT MAY DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EDICT.
SO WHY HAS THE CITY OF CHURCHS DENIED THESE FEW HUNDRED PROPERTY OWNERS OF THEIR ABILITY TO VOTE AND VOICE FOR THEIR INTERESTS TO REMAIN IN A TRADITIONAL ETJ? THE CITY OF SHIRTS MUST KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE OFFERING THREE OPTIONS ON THE BALLOT.
IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION IN 2017 WHEN A DOZEN PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ON THE VERGE OF BEING IGNORED IN REGARDS TO THIS VERY SAME LAND USE STUDY, THE CITY THROUGH BRIAN JAMES STATED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT NO ACTION BE TAKEN AND THAT WE GO BACK AND START MEETING WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DISCUSS WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
LET'S DO THAT HERE WHERE THE INTEREST OF 30 TIMES MORE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AT STAKE.
NOW MY TOPIC TWO, WE FEW PROPERTY OWNERS, FEW HUNDRED PROPERTY OWNERS WILL LOSE PROPERTY VALUE THAT WE LOSE OUR TRADITIONAL ETJ RIGHTS.
YET THERE HAS BEEN NO MENTION OF OUR RIGHT OF RECEIVING FAIR COMPENSATION FOR THESE CHANGES IN PROPERTY VALUES AS DI DICTATED BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, THE US SUPREME COURT HAS STATED THAT THE RATIONALE FOR COMPENSATING LAND LANDOWNERS BY TAKINGS FOR PUBLIC USE IS TO BAR GOVERNMENTS FROM FORCING SOME PEOPLE ALONE TO BEAR PUBLIC BURDEN.
WHICH IN ALL FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE SHOULD BE BORNE BY THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE.
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SUPREME COURT STATEMENT, THESE FEW HUNDRED ETJ PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE MADE TO BEAR SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL LOSS BY ACTIONS THAT DEPRECIATE THEIR PROPERTY VALUE IN ORDER THAT 44,000 RESIDENTS OF SHIRTS CAN BENEFIT FROM HAVING A MILITARY BASE NEARBY.
THESE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY OF SHIRT'S DECISION MAKERS TO PONDER.
WILL THE CITY OF SHIRTS DELAY THE UPCOMING VOTE, WHICH IS IN ITS PRESENT FORM, IS NOT ALLOWING THE FEW HUNDRED CITIZENS TO MAKE A CHOICE THAT IS ALLOWED BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AND IS ALLOWED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.
QUESTION TWO, DOES THE CITY OF CHURCH INTEND TO COMPENSATE THESE FEW HUNDRED PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR EXPECTED LOSSES AS IS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, PLEASE, GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF YOU.
MY NAME IS CLAIRE LAYTON AND I LIVE AT, HAVE THE SAME ADDRESS AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
I HAVE A QUESTION, SOME OBSERVATIONS AND A SUGGESTION CONCERNING OPTION TWO.
NO ONE MENTIONED THE LAST PHRASE OF OPTION TWO AND I QUOTE AND INCLUDING THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND IMPOSE RELATED FEES, FINES, AND OTHER CHARGES ALSO ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT WHERE DO I NEED TO HAVE A PERMIT? THE WEBSITE SAID THAT BUILDING PERMITS
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ARE REQUIRED TO REPAIR A HOME.IF THE HOME HOMEOWNER OCCUPIES THE HOME, MOST OF THE 261 PARCELS EXIST EXISTING, UH, LONG EXISTING DEVELOPED HOMES.
DOES THAT MEAN WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FINES, FEES, OR WHATEVER IF WE PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON OUR EXISTING HOME? EVEN IF YOU AS COUNCIL SAYS, NO, WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THE FUTURE COUNCILS WON'T IMPLEMENT THIS PHRASE.
HISTORICALLY, COUNCILS HAVE CHANGED PRIOR COUNCILS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION TO LIMIT THE DENSITY OF HOUSING IN THE AREAS KNOWN AS SOUTHERN SHIRTS, A SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL PASSED THEIR OWN RESOLUTION FAVORING HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.
AND AS WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT, THIS AREA IS NOW ONCE A RURAL AREA IS NOW BEING FILLED WITH SUBDIVISIONS OF HOUSES CRAMPED TOGETHER ON SMALL LOTS.
INTERESTINGLY, THE MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL MEETING OF 11 APRIL, 2017 INCLUDED RESIDENTS OBJECTING TO AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 17 DASH S DASH 13, WHICH PROPOSED THE LAND BE INCLUDED IN THE LAND USE STUDY.
BUT THAT ORDINANCE MADE NO MENTION OF THE CITY AUTHORITY ADDING AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND IMPOSE FEES.
SO WHY DOES OPTION TWO INCLUDE THIS? THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS WERE WORRIED THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD LOWER THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.
THE PEOPLE IN 7 20 17, THEY WONDERED IF THEY MAY EVENTUALLY BE SUBJECT TO THE PERMITS FEES, NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH THE SPECIFIC LAND USE STUDY RESTRICTIONS.
THEY WERE UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY COULD OR COULD NOT DO.
DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? SO TO CONCLUDE WITH MY SUGGESTION, WHEN THE FINAL WORDING OF OPTION TWO IS A APPROVED, IT SHOULD OMI THE REFERENCE CITY STATEMENT ON RELATED FEES.
THIS IS IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS OPTION IS TO GIVE THE CITY THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE ANY OF THE 46 LAND USE RESTRICTIONS AND ANY FUTURE MISSION IMPORTANT RESTRICTIONS THAT MAY ARISE IN THE STUDY'S UPDATE.
THE AUTHORITY TO LEVER FEES, FINDS ANOTHER CHARGES IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
I HOPE YOU SEE MY POINTS AND A SERIOUSLY CONCERNING ADULT CHANGING OPTION TWO, DR.
RANDY KO, UM, 11 9 10 LOS MEADOWS.
UM, I, UM, I, UH, READ THE A-L-U-S-I WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
I LISTENED TO YOU GUYS AND I, UH, READ THE, THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE WHOLE POINT.
AND I AGREE WE DO NEED TO REQ, WE DO NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AIRB BASE TO STAY HERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO CHASE THEM AWAY BECAUSE WE MAKE IT UN UH, TENABLE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN AIR, UH, FLIGHT, UH, PILOTS AROUND THE AREA BECAUSE WE EITHER DEVELOP OUR AREA TOO MUCH OR WE MAKE IT UNSAFE FOR THEM TO DO SO.
SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE GONE AHEAD AND I'VE PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED LIST OF PERMIT RULES, UH, THAT I'VE SHARED WITH, UH, UH, MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE AND I'VE SHARED WITH BRIAN.
AND I BRING THEM TO YOU, UH, TO, UH, OFFER YOU TO LIST, UH, AS, AND I SHARE ALSO, I HAVE BASICALLY SPILLED OUT THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR BRIAN.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS, IS IF WE GO WITH PLAN X, UH, PLAN A WITH ANNEXING EXACTLY WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS HERE FOR SOME OF THE, OUR CURRENT PROPERTY VALUES.
THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED YET.
UH, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING PEOPLE TO GO ALONG WITH, UH, UH, PLAN A, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, UH, JUST IN FULL DISCLOSURE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO MY RIGHTS AND MY ABILITIES TO DO WITH WHAT MY PROPERTY IS, UH, IF WE GO AHEAD AND CHOOSE TO ANNEX, THAT SHOULD BE SPELLED OUT CURRENTLY THAT ISN'T CURRENTLY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERMANENT PROCESSING IS CURRENTLY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR OUR EXISTING, UH, UH, BUILDINGS.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE SPELLED OUT IF WE GO WITH ANNEX A AS WE MOVE ON.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS, IS THAT, UH, THAT I LAID OUT SOME BASIC RULES AND I'VE ASKED BRIAN TO INCORPORATE THOSE AS A BASIC OUTLINE ON HOW TO MINIMIZE THE OVERALL.
UH, IF WE DO GO WITH THE ETJ WITH PLAN B TO MINIMIZE THE OVERALL IMPACT AND ALL OVERALL EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES, UH, UH, BUT STILL IN THE HAVE IN FULL CLARITY HAVE A PERMITTING PROCESS, A PERMITTING, PRO PERMITTING PROCESS WOULD REQUIRE SOME KIND OF MINIMAL AMOUNT OF FEE BECAUSE MAN HOURS HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND VALIDATE THE PERMITS ARE GOOD AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THERE IS A UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME ADMINISTRATION OVERHEAD.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PLANNED OUT AND IT'S, I'VE SHARED IT WITH EVERYBODY.
SO IT'S NOTHING THAT'S, UH, OFF THE BLUE, UH, FOR ANYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.
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THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS? UH, DO YOU HAVE A COPY? SURE, PLEASE.UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO SEND IT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN SCAN IT IN AND FORWARD IT TO THE COUNCIL.
I'M JOAN SIMON SHELLEY, OWNER OF 1 1 3 5 0 FLORES LUNA ROAD.
AND I LIVE ABOVE, UH, RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE.
I GRADUATED FROM JUDSON HIGH SCHOOL IN 1983.
I HAVE LIVED AND GO
BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS MY MOTHER DIED OF PARKINSON'S AND 2014 IN MY ARMS AND THAT WAS WHEN THE AIRPLANES WERE DUSTING AND WERE, MY PROPERTY LAYS RIGHT IN FRONT AND BESIDE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT RANDOLPH'S OFF SEWAGE.
AND MY CONCERN FOR MY FELLOW CITIZENS THAT ARE NOT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, BECAUSE THIS CERTIFIED LETTER CAME IN THE MAIL IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT, IT CAME TO US AS A SHOCK.
SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE NOT EVEN ADVISED, HAVE NOT EVEN RECEIVED ANYTHING OF SUCH HEARING.
AND I BELIEVE, AND I AGREE WITH MY GENTLEMAN FRIEND OVER HERE WHO SAID WE SHOULD HAVE THREE OPTIONS.
BECAUSE WHEN MY MOTHER PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND WHEN COLONEL BRIGADIER GENERAL, UH, OF THE AIR FORCE BASE, UM, MR. JAMES B MOUNT SOLD US THIS PROPERTY.
AND NOW I HAVE TWO NIECE, UH, NIECE AND A NEPHEW THAT WE HAVE RAISED, AND THEY ARE PROUD SERVING MEMBERS OF THE AIR FORCE BASE ACADEMY IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.
BUT YET WITH MY HUSBAND ON PALLIATIVE HOSPICE CARE AT THIS MOMENT, AND HIS BREATHING WITH THE PLANES GOING ABOVE US, YOU CAN SENSE THAT I CAN WAKE UP AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN THE PLANE GOES BY BECAUSE AT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK I CAN'T BREATHE COMFORTABLY.
I FEEL SOMETHING, I FEEL THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE HEALTH STUDIES FOR THE ELDERLY IN MY COMMUNITY.
FOR THESE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE AN OPTION, A VOICE, THEY DON'T, THEY, I HAVE CONTRACTED ALSO MY PARKINSON'S AND I LIVE WITH THE PAIN EVERY DAY.
AND I HAVE BECOME, I WAS A COMEDIAN WHO ENTERTAINED IN VEGAS IN LAS VEGAS AND IT WAS MY PRIDE AND JOY.
AND NOW IT GIVES ME SUCH PAIN TO STAND HERE AND FEEL THE PAIN FROM MY BONES COMING OUTWARD.
I DON'T, I FEEL THAT THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A HEALTH STUDY OF OUR AREA, THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON.
AND WHEN I WOULD TELL RANDOLPH AND THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHAT ARE YOU SPRAYING? WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WATER, THEY WOULD LET ME KNOW THAT THEY WOULD STOP THE SPRAYING AND THE AIRPLANES WOULD STOP.
SO I FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE HEALTH ISSUES CONCERNING, AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE A THIRD OPTION TO NOT GET ANNEXED.
AND COUNCIL, PLEASE, I ASK FOR ALL OF THOSE SENIORS WHO CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
MIC STILL OPEN PLEASE, PLEASE STEP UP.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 12 700 WOMAN HOLLAND ROAD.
SO, UH, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT AND I THINK I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OUTLINED IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT IN GENERAL.
MAINLY AROUND THE FISCAL IMPACT OF WHAT THESE, THE, THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE ON TAXES, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ON ZONING CHANGES IN THESE AREAS AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
OUR AREA FLOODS A LOT, SO I'VE, I KNOW 'CAUSE I'VE WAITED IN IT QUITE A BIT.
HAVE WE DONE ANY STUDIES ABOUT THAT? ALSO, I ASKED THE, THE CITY MANAGER, COULD WE GET WHEN IT DOES GET ANNEXED, IF THAT OPTION WAS TO PASS, WHAT ARE OUR ZONES FOR THE, MY PARTICULAR AREA? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, MEETINGS IN THE PAST ABOUT CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR LAND BEING ZONED MULTIFAMILY.
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IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT.I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE, UM, DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THE PHYSICAL AND FINANCIAL IMPACT TO US ARE.
LIKE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT WE'RE RAISING TAXES, WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO TO US? AND THE LAST THING IS THE SERVICES RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON, UM, WE'RE NOT ON THE SEPTIC OR WE'RE ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS, NOT ON SEWER.
LIKE WHAT IS IT GONNA COST US IF YOU BRING THAT SERVICE TO US? ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO PAY TO HOOK INTO THE, YOUR SERVICES? AGAIN, THAT'S NOT ONLY ARE WE PAYING TAXES, BUT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY TO HOOK ALL THAT STUFF UP.
SO WHAT IS THE CITY GONNA DO FOR US, YOU KNOW, ON THE HEELS OF RAISING OUR TAXES IN GENERAL.
SO WHAT DOES THAT FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR US? AND WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO IF WE CAN HAVE THAT LIKE BY THE NEXT MEETING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
IF NOT, THEN I PROPOSE WE DELAY IT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
SEAN CLARY AGAIN, UH, I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES HERE.
ONE I LIVE IN, ONE I OWN IS, UH, 1 0 8 5 1 VEC LANE.
UM, SO AS YOU WERE, UH, PRESENTING, AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU DID THAT, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND MORE.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION OUT OF IGNORANCE, UH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT JUST, IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, UH, THE OPTION OF GETTING ANNEXED COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THE OPTION B, WHICH IF WE VOTED NO FOR THE ANNEXATION, WE WOULD THEN DEFAULT TO, UM, BEING SUBJECT TO UM, UH, BUILDING PERMITS, THINGS LIKE THAT, CORRECT? WELL, NO, NO, YOU'D BE SUBJECT TO ZONING, BUT THEN ZONING DOESN'T INCLUDE BUILDING PERMITS ONLY IF YOU SELL THE LAND AND, AND THE USE IS GONNA BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.
SAY FOR INSTANCE, WE, WE, WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN A MINUTE.
SUBJECT TO THE, THE STIPULATIONS OF THE YEAH, WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT YEAH.
BECAUSE, UM, THE THING THAT JUST STRUCK ME AS ODD IS WHEN I WAS PURCHASING THE PRODUCT, I LOOKED AT ETJ REGULATIONS AND THEY SEEMED TO COME OUT OF THE STATE LEVEL.
IS THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT, IS THAT WHAT, UH, A, UH, JURISDICTION CAN DO IN AN ETJ AREA IS LIMITED BY THE STATE SIGN.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS AND IT SEEMS TO BE STANDARD, THIS SEEMS TO FALL OUT OF THE STANDARD EETJ UH, LIMITATIONS TO THE JURISDICTION.
AND THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO THAT, MY QUESTION IS LIKE, IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ACTUALLY FIT WITHIN THE STATE REGULATIONS IF WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ANNEXED? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
IN, IN, IN SHORT ANSWER, IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE REGULAR ETJ REGULATIONS BECAUSE OF THE JOINT LAND USE PLAN WITH RANDOLPH.
SO IT FALLS UNDER A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE LAW.
SO FROM WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT BEING IN THE ETJ.
BUT MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND TOO, WITH ALL THESE QUESTIONS, IF, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR YOU WOULD LIKE A RESPONSE IF YOU COULD GIVE THE, YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY SECRETARY, I KNOW YOU'RE STATING IT WHEN YOU COME UP.
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO RESPOND TO YOU DIRECTLY AND PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION, BECAUSE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE POSED ARE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN, THAN YOU MIGHT REALIZE IN TERMS OF A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
IF YOU CHOOSE A OPTION A VERSUS OPTION B IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT ANSWER FOR EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ADEQUATELY, BUT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO RECEIVE.
OKAY? IT'S AN EASIER ADDRESS TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, UH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER, IT'S EASY TO REMEMBER.
MAYOR@SHIRTS.COM, YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGEMENT GETS IT SO THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IF WE DON'T ADDRESS 'EM TODAY.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR@SHIRTS.COM IS THE ADDRESS.
UM, AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO IT IS I, I THINK THE IDEA OF THERE BEING NO THIRD OPTION, UM, MAYBE, UH, GIVING US THE INFORMATION WHY THAT'S NOT EVEN AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING WHEN IT COMES TO RANDOLPH SEEMS TO BE DRIVEN BY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE NECESSARILY, UH, PICKING UP AS THE ONES ON THIS END.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, MAVERICK RODRIGUEZ, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
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ZERO.1 0 3 0 8 OVERNIGHT, UH, PATH IN CHURCH TEXAS.
THE ADDRESS I'M CONCERNING ABOUT IS 1 2 0 2 8 2 8 AND A FEW OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THAT LINE.
THEY'RE TOWARDS, UH, THE START OF 1518.
AND I GUESS SOME OF THE THINGS ARE LIKE THE BUSINESS CONCERNS.
UM, I THINK 'CAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR THE CITY, THEN WE HAVE TO GO ABOUT NOTIFYING PEOPLE, UM, LIKE MECHANIC LIENS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE LIKE CONCERNING I GUESS.
UM, I KNOW MY AUNT HAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I'M SPEAKING FOR A COUPLE PEOPLE HERE.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT ALL TOGETHER.
UM, UH, I KNOW I DIDN'T GET MY LETTER.
UH, MY MOTHER DOES HAVE A PROPERTY THERE AND HER PROPERTY, SHE DID NOT RECEIVE ONE EITHER, BUT MY ADDRESS DOES HAVE IT LISTED ON MY ID, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T GET ONE.
BUT AS FAR AS HER, I MEAN, Y'ALL SAID THAT ANYBODY, THEY WOULDN'T RECEIVE ONE, SO, UH, UNLESS THEY WERE THERE LIVING THERE, UH, I GUESS GRANDFATHERED IN.
THAT ALREADY HAS BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, I GUESS.
BUT, UH, SHIRTS AT OR MAYOR@SHIRTS.COM HMM? YEAH, MAYOR@SHIRTS.COM IS IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS.
UH, I GUESS I HAVE TO GET MY QUESTIONS TOGETHER THEN, BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
ANY OTHERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, NATHAN JACKSON, UM, RESIDENCE OF 1 2 5 4 0 SCHAEFER ROAD.
UM, JUST KIND OF ECHOING WHAT SOME OF THE, SO TO BE VERY CLEAR, I'M NOT HERE OFFICIALLY ON THE BEHALF OF RANDOLPH
UH, I AM A HOMEOWNER, UH, AS WELL.
SO, UH, JUST KINDA WANTED TO ECHO UP ON, UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK THE, THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT THE OPTIONS WERE.
AND I ALSO DID NOT GET A LETTER.
I ALSO JUST GOT MY NEW DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR THAT ADDRESS VERY RECENTLY 'CAUSE I'VE LIVED THERE FOR LESS THAN THREE MONTHS.
SO, UM, JUST KINDA THAT TRANSPARENCY OF GETTING THAT OUT POTENTIALLY IS NOT NECESSARILY HAPPENING.
LUCKILY WE HAVE AWESOME FOLKS THAT RUN COMMUNITY EMAIL GROUPS TO KIND OF GET SOME OF THESE, THESE WORDS OUT.
SO MY POINTS TO THAT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THAT AREA, IT, I'VE LIVED IN TURQUOISE OR 3 29 TURQUOISE IN SHIRTS FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
AND WE SPECIFICALLY MOVED HERE, DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH HOAS AND MORE, UH, RESTRICTIONS, UH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO, UH, JUST KINDA THAT TRANSPARENCY OF WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU AS AN OPERATOR THAT FLIES OVER THESE AREAS EVERY SINGLE DAY, UH, AS I DID RIGHT BEFORE I, I DROVE OVER HERE.
UM, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT HAVE FINGERS IN THIS.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT ANYBODY BUILDING SOMETHING 150 FEET IS VERY LITTLE WORRY TO ME.
'CAUSE SPOILER, THAT'S PROBABLY THE HEIGHT OF THE WATER TOWER THAT IS RIGHT ON THE INSIDE, DOWN ON THERE AT THE, THE BASE.
SO, UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT WITH THE FAA WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, AND I FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND I REALIZE THIS IS A SMALL PART OF THAT BIG PICTURE.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS RESIDENT ME TALKING, UH, NOT IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT, UM, THAT THIRD OPTION OR WHY THERE IS NOT THAT OPTION, I GUESS WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, AT LEAST TO ME DOES NOT FEEL LIKE, EXCUSE ME, HAS BEEN, UH, MADE VERY TRANSPARENT, UM, AT LEAST TO, TO EVERYONE THAT'S LIVING THERE.
UH, AND THEN REALLY JUST THE DATA OF HOW DOES THAT BREAKOUT HAPPEN.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY SEWAGE FEES WHEN I ALREADY HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
I'M ALREADY PAYING TO DUMP AND HAVE THAT PUMPED.
UH, NOW IF I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
IF THAT'S WHAT'S VOTED ON, THAT'S WHAT'S VOTED ON.
THAT'S WHY WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY.
BUT, UM, A LOT OF STUFF LIKE THAT, I FEEL LIKE THOSE, THAT DATA POINT FOR DIFFERENT ZONES OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING MAY NOT FULLY BE OUT THERE.
UH, SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE AN EDUCATED CHOICE WHEN WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT THAT OUTCOME WILL LOOK LIKE FULLY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? YES SIR.
STANFIELD, UH, I LIVE AT 1 2 6 5 4 WOMAN HOLLERING ROAD.
AND UH, I JUST HAVE A, I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THIS, A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS.
MY, MY FIRST CONCERN WAS THE TAXES.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF, IF, IF THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US SOME DATA ON COMPARISON OF WHAT I'M PAYING IN BEAR AND WHAT I'M PAYING NOW, I'LL BE, I WOULD BE PAYING IN IF THE CITY WERE TO TAKE OVER.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTY, SO I PAY QUITE A BIT OF TAX, DON'T MIND PAYING IT.
I LOVE WHERE I'M AT, AT, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THAT.
I, I I, I DO KIND OF AGREE WITH THESE.
THERE'S NO TRANS, UH, THE TRANSPARENCY SEEMS KIND OF WEIRD WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
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IT, I WASN'T SURE IF THE BEAR COUNTY WAS HANDING OVER THE, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DEAL OF DOING THE, UH, THE ORDINANCES AND, AND SO ON WITH THE PROPERTY.I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU, YOU'RE COMING FROM THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE CONTROL OF THE, THE ZONING AND, AND, UH, HOW THE MASTER PLAN'S GONNA LOOK LIKE OF SURE.
BUT AGAIN, I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBOR HERE, UH, UH, MR. TURNER, THAT, UH, WE WANT, WE WANT OUR, OUR, WE FEEL WE HAVE A SPECIAL LITTLE COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE, UM, HAVING BIG CHANGES IN OUR, UH, ZONING.
UM, THAT IT WILL, YOU KNOW, DISRUPT THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? MY NAME IS STEVE SLATE, 8,600 QUAIL WOOD RUN.
UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU GUYS, OR A COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING WAS PLANNING TO SEE IF THEY WANTED TO NXN PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE WE LIVE.
AND ALL THE CITIZENS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAME OUT AND WE SPOKE OR PIECE AND WE FOUND OUT WITH NO NOTIFICATION THAT IT WAS JUST TAKE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE SOMEONE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO PUT DUPLEXES THERE.
AND NONE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED THAT.
SO WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO AMEND OUR COVENANT TO, I GUESS NOT PREVENT, BUT JUST REGULATIONS OR WHATEVER.
SO THE PEOPLE COULD NOT BUILD THERE.
AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WE WERE ONE PERSON SHORT BECAUSE THEY HIRED A REALLY GOOD LAWYER AND THEY SUED, THEY PUT UP PAPERS TO SUE EVERYBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND OF COURSE WHEN THEY DID THAT, THE UNITY, ALL THE OLDER PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT 80 AND 90-YEAR-OLD PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY GOT SCARED AND THEY BACKED OFF.
OKAY? AND I GUESS MY POINT IS WITH THE CITY OF SHIRTS AND AGAIN, JUST, JUST, I'VE HAD VERY, VERY BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
I'VE CALLED THEM ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, WHAT WAS GOING ON? WE KNOW NOTHING.
THAT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION, THAT'S BEAR COUNTY, THAT'S THE ROAD.
ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF HAVE ALWAYS GOT TOLD, DON'T BOTHER US.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN LIVING THERE SINCE 1978 AND THE CITY OF SHEZ HAS PROPOSED ANNEXES, ANNEXATION OF OUR PROPERTY NUMEROUS TIMES.
BUT THE REASON IT'S ALWAYS FAILED IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT THAT.
AND THE REASON THE CITY OF SHIRTZ, I GUESS OBLIGED BY THAT WAS BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH MONEY TO REDO THE ROADS AND PUT IT IN SEWAGE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF, I'M GONNA SAY HUMOROUS, BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS REPORT THAT THE AIR FORCE DID IN 20 15, 10 YEARS LATER, IS NOW BECOMING AN ISSUE.
WHEN YOU COULD HAVE ANNEXED IN THAT PROPERTY TWO YEARS AGO, YOU COULD HAVE ANNEXED OUR PROPERTY IN PLENTY OF YEARS AGO.
AND NOW JUST OUTTA NOWHERE, HALF THE PEOPLE, ALMOST HALF THE PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THIS IS EVEN HAPPENING ACCORDING TO HER RECORDS AND THE CERTIFIED LETTERS AND SO FORTH, WHAT SHE STATED UP HERE, AND THIS IS ALL GONNA GO TO VOTE IN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT HOW THIS NORMALLY WORKS? I'M NOT GOVERNMENT, I'M NOT A EXPERT ON GOVERNMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING HOW SINCE 1978 IT'S BEEN PROPOSED, PROPOSED, PROPOSED, PROPOSED, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BACKED OFF.
AND NOW IT'S LIKE, LET'S DO IT.
LET'S USE THE AIR FORCE AS AN EXCUSE, WHICH I DON'T THINK AN EXCUSE.
'CAUSE THE MAN SAID, RECOMMEND, RECOMMEND.
AND WHAT EVERYBODY SAID IS LEGITIMATE NOT HAVING A THIRD OPTION.
IT'S LIKE WE DON'T GET TO VOTE, WE DON'T GET TO VOTE FOR YOU, WE DON'T GET TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING.
AND NOW WE GET A SPECIAL VOTE WITHIN THREE MONTHS THAT HALF THE PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN NOTIFIED TO CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIFE.
AND THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANYONE ELSE? GOING ONCE? GOING TWICE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL LET THIS ONE BY
I LIVE AT 11 2 1 8 FLORES LUNA ROAD.
UH, BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES, UH, LAST FEW TIMES IT'S BEEN WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WELL, I'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT BULLIED AROUND BY SEWER PLANT RIGHT BEHIND ME.
UM, THE TWO AND A HALF ACRES THAT WERE TAKEN FROM ME,
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BEAR COUNTY, CITY SHIRTS, SEWER, PLANT PAID WHAT? $18,000 FOR IT.THAT'S WHAT I WAS GIVEN WITH THE THREAT MENT DOMAIN SO THAT THE DITCH COULD BE PUT THROUGH THERE.
UM, THEN HERE LATELY WE'RE HERE LAST YEAR, I GUESS BETWEEN THE CITY, THE, WHAT WAS IT, THE RECOMMENDATION OF MAN OVER HERE NEXT DOOR, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
YOU GUYS PUT A SEW LINE THROUGH THERE AND I GUESS I PUT A LITTLE KIBOSH ON YOUR DEAL 'CAUSE UH, CALLED BEAR COUNTY AND THEY STOPPED THE PROJECT.
SIT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, AND UH, SEWER PLANT.
YOU GUYS DIDN'T PULL YOUR PERMITS WITH BEAR COUNTY TO HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION DONE.
CITY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
COMMISSIONER'S, COURTS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT'S HOW YOU DO BUSINESS WITH ALL OF THIS REZONING, WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
YOU'RE GONNA COME IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE, WE'VE HAD GOING ON.
WE MOVED OUT THERE 35 YEARS AGO TO BE IN THE COUNTY.
WE KNEW WE WERE LIVING NEXT TO SHIRTS.
I MEAN, YOU'VE BOUGHT, YOU'VE ANNEXED ALL THE WAY OUT TO I 10.
YOU'VE GONE ALL THE WAY OUT TO SEIN.
WE'RE JUST, ETJ IS WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN.
YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT IN THE SEWAGE LINES.
YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO PAVE ALL OF THE ROADS.
IT TOOK YOU FOREVER TO PAVE THE ROAD DOWN OFF A LOWER SINE ROAD THAT RUNS OUT BEHIND THE OLD COUNTRY ROUNDUP BACK THERE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T RUN ACROSS THE SHAFER ROAD WITH A BIG SOAR LINE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 3 0 0 9 CORRIDOR RUNNING STRAIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE, RIGHT BY THE SEWER PLANT.
YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, BUT YOU WANT TO ANNEX US AND THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD OPTION.
NO ONE'S THREATENING YOU, NO ONE'S WANTING TO BUILD SOME BIG HIGH RISE OUT THERE.
TWO AND A HALF ACRES, $18,000.
SOME OF YOU GUYS UP THERE MIGHT HAVE A REAL ESTATE LICENSE.
WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO BUY TWO AND A HALF ACRES, $18,000? THANK, MY NAME IS RAY AARON, 1 1 1 0 8 5 HORSE RIDGE.
WE LIVED OVER ON CHURCHILL FOR YEARS, ABOUT 12 YEARS.
AND WE SAW HOW SAN ANTONIO WAS GETTING AND BIGGER AND BIGGER AND THEY, WE JUST WANTED OUTTA THE CITY.
WE WANTED TO COME OUT HERE WHERE WE HAD A LITTLE FREEDOM, A LITTLE PEACE TO GROW OLD AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE.
YOU KNOW, WELL, WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS TO BE ANNEXED IN.
AND, UH, I PUT IN A MOBILE HOME PARK WITH MY DAD, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND IF WE WERE TO GET ANNEXED IN RIGHT NOW, AND I'M AN INSTALLER ONE, SO I KNOW HOW SEWER OPERATES, I KNOW HOW WATER OPERATES.
I'VE WORKED WITH THAT ALL MY LIFE TO DO MY PART AND TO CONNECT UP TO A NEW SEWER LINE.
I'D HAVE TO RUN A SEWER LINE THROUGH MY PARK JUST TO GET TO INTO A SEWER LINE, WHICH IS GONNA BE VERY COSTLY.
IT WOULD COST ME $30,000 JUST TO HOOK UP TO A MAIN.
SO THEREFORE THAT'S OUT FOR ME.
UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WE CAME OUT HERE FOR, TO JUST HAVE A LITTLE FREEDOM, A LITTLE PEACE.
ALL, EVERYBODY, SAN ANTONIO WAS WANTING OUT SAN SAN ANTONIO BACK IN NINE FIVE.
'CAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING OVER THERE.
AND WE JUST THOUGHT, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS.
I WISH NOW I WOULD'VE NEVER DONE WHAT I DID, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN A RENTAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN.
YOU'RE ALWAYS REPAIRING NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
WHEN EVERY OTHER, WHATEVER, TWO OR THREE RENTERS COME THROUGH, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WORK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE REPAIRS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DECKS TO REPAIR, YOU KNOW, WINDOWS, ROOFS, WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO REPAIR AND TO GET ANNEXED IN.
AM I GONNA BE PERMITTED FOR ALL THIS? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AROUND THERE.
A LOT OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAY WORK, ROAD WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT VEHICLES COMING IN, VEHICLES GOING OUT AND THIS SORT OF THING.
JUST, IT'S ON MY MIND DAILY RIGHT NOW.
AND WHEN I GOT THIS LETTER, I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED.
YOU KNOW, AM I GONNA BE PUSHED OUT? AM I GONNA BE MOVED OUT OR WHAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO ME NOW? YOU KNOW? AND IT'S A CONCERN.
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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS? THE COUNCIL GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I, THAT YOU ALL HAD IS, WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? THE REASON WHY IS THAT WE DID HAVE A, WE DID HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT WAS PUTTING IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THIS COUNCIL COULD NOT STOP IT 'CAUSE IT WAS IN THE ETJ.
WE COULD NOT STOP THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX COMING IN HERE.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IS THAT WE NEED TO CONTROL WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
YOU ALL HAVE YOUR PROPERTIES AND WE RESPECT THAT.
WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS WHAT GOES IN THERE TO PROTECT YOU AS WELL.
BECAUSE SOME OF YOU SAY, HEY, I'M OFFERING NOT 18,000.
I'M OFFERING YOU $1.8 MILLION FOR YOUR PROPERTY.
AND THAT DEVELOPER'S GONNA BUILD WHATEVER HE WANTS.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S COMING DOWN TO.
THAT'S WHY WE WANNA CONTROL THE ZONING.
WE CAN CONTROL IT EITHER BY ANNEXING THE PROPERTY OR PUTTING THE ZONING IN THERE.
THAT IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS STEP, FOR THAT REASON, TO PROTECT THE MISSION AND TO PROTECT WHAT GOES IN THERE.
NOW, YOU ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE PERMITS AND FEES.
THOSE WILL APPLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
THOSE, IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANNA BUILD A COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE, THAT'S WHEN THE PERMITS COME IN.
NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING A LITTLE SHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
IS THAT CORRECT MR. JAMES? THAT'S WHEN THE PERMITS AND FEES COME IN IS WHEN THEY'RE DOING ACTUALLY, YEAH, THAT'S WHEN THAT'S COMING IN.
HOW IS IT GONNA IMPACT ME ON TAXES IF WE ANNEX YOU? YES, YOU WILL PAY TAXES, BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 10 ACRES, YOU ARE A EXEMPT AND YOU WILL PAY VERY LITTLE ON THE TAXES.
BUT IF YOU REZONE, YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE CITY, JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO OUR ROADS OR ANYTHING, YOU CALL US AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
WHY? 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS.
ANNEXATION WILL PUT YOU IN THERE.
SO WHEN YOU CALL THE CITY, IF YOU ANNEX, WE WILL RESPOND.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T, YOU'RE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS.
SO THAT'S WHY NO ACTION IS TAKEN WHEN YOU CALL THE CITY ASSURES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO.
WHICH IS IT? IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ELECTING TO DO.
YOU'RE EITHER GONNA ANNEX OR YOU'RE GONNA LET US REZONE.
THE THIRD OPTION, I'M NOT TOO CLEAR WHAT THE THIRD OPTION WAS THAT, UH, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY IT.
WHAT WAS THE THIRD OPTION, MR. MAYOR? THE THIRD OPTION WAS TO LEAVE OUR PROPERTIES ALONE.
I CANNOT SELL MY PROPERTY INTO A DEVELOPER IF I SO WISH.
LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, UH, BEFORE ME, HE SAID HE HAD EIGHT ACRES OR SALE.
IF SOMEONE COMES TO HIM, A, A DEVELOPER AND WISHES TO BUILD A COMPLEX AND HE WISHES TO BUY, PURCHASE A HOME FOR HIS FAMILY, THAT IS HIS OPTION.
I FEEL IT IS AN INSULT FROM THE CITY OF CHURCH, OKAY? BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN KNOWN AS NO MAN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
THE THIRD OPTION WAS, WHY CAN'T WE LEAVE IT ALONE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER.
YES YOU CAN, BUT THAT DEVELOPER'S GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO WHAT THAT ZONING IS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS PROTECT YOU.
WELL, NOT, NOT YOU, 'CAUSE YOU'RE SELLING YOUR LAND.
BUT WHAT IF IT'S NEXT TO HIS? HE DOESN'T WANT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO HIM.
IF IT'S ZONED CORRECTLY, THEN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX WON'T COME IN UNLESS THIS COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
WE OWN OUR LAND THAT, AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE, WE CAN'T HAVE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION.
WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CANNOT SELL YOUR LAND TO A DEVELOPER.
YOU CAN, YOU WILL, BUT THAT DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR RESTRICTIONS AND OUR ZONING ISSUE.
IF IT'S ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL, HE CAN BUILD COMMERCIAL.
IF IT'S ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY, HE CAN'T.
BUT IF HE WANTS TO REZONE IT, OTHER THAN WHAT IT'S ZONED, GOTTA COME THROUGH COUNCIL IT.
AND THE, AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE USING IS A LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS, UH, INITIATED BACK IN 2015, WHATEVER
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IT WAS AT THAT POINT.THAT'S THE ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN THAT SECTION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
IT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
YOU CAN STILL DO WHAT YOU'RE, DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
YOU CAN STILL SELL THE LAND, BUT WE WILL CONTROL WHAT GOES IN THERE.
SO IF THE DEVELOPER OFFERS YOU 1.8 MILLION OR 18 MILLION, THEN IF THEY WANNA BUILD A APARTMENT COMPLEX AND IT'S ZONE FOUR, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ALREADY, IT WON'T EVEN COME TO COUNCIL.
BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT ZONE FOUR APARTMENT, IF IT'S ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL COME TO COUNCIL AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT DOESN'T WANT THAT DEPARTMENT COMPLEX IN HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE ZONING AND THE ANNEXATION.
AND YOU WILL DECIDE WHICH WAY YOU WANNA GO.
WE EITHER ANNEX YOU OR WE ZONE YOU.
THAT'S THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
WHY WE NOT HAVE THREE OPTIONS? THERE'S NO THREE OPTIONS.
UH, PLEASE, PLEASE, IT'S, UH, HOLD YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
SO THE PERMITS AND FEES, I THINK WE ADDRESSED THAT.
WE ADDRESSED THE WHY, UH, THE ZONING.
I THINK WE DID ADDRESS THE ZONING.
THE ZONING IS BASICALLY WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BACK IN 20 15, 20 16.
IT WOULD NOT CHANGE UNLESS YOU SELL YOUR LAND AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT'S PERMIT AT THIS TIME.
UM, TAXES, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAXES, EXCUSE ME.
IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, WE'LL SEND YOU THE MAP AS TO WHAT IT IS.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THREE 10.
EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS, WE ARE PROTECTING THE AREA BY NOT ALLOWING A DEVELOPER TO BUILD SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
AND NOW THE THIRD ONE, BECAUSE IF WE OFFERED YOU A THIRD ONE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
OPTION C, LEAVE US ALONE, BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO DO OPTION C BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE MISSION AT RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE.
AND THAT'S WHAT GAVE US THE AUTHORITY TO REQUEST A SPECIAL ELECTION BECAUSE YOU'RE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF RANDOLPH.
IF YOU WERE OUTSIDE THE FIVE MILES OF RANDOLPH, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
WE WOULDN'T BE TOUCHING YOUR LAND.
WE WOULDN'T BE ZONING IT OR TRYING TO ANNEX YOU.
RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE IS THE KEY TO THE, TO THE REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS ELECTION.
BUT ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T ANSWERED, ONCE AGAIN, SEND ME AN EMAIL, SEND ME AN EMAIL@MAYORATSHIRTS.COM.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT MR. JAMES AND OUR CITY MANAGER ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE AFTER, AFTER THIS, UH, MEETING HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING OFF THE RECORD.
WITH THAT, THERE IS NO ACTION NEEDED ON THIS ONE.
[ Information available in City Council Packets - NO DISCUSSION TO OCCUR]
TO ITEM NUMBER 10 IS OUR MONTHLY UPDATES AND MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECTS IN PROGRESS.ITEM 11 IS, UH, UP UPDATED PURCHASING POLICY AND VENDOR EX EXPENDITURE, UH, REPORT.
AND THESE ARE INFORMATION PACKETS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING@SHORTS.COM.
COUNSEL, IS THERE ANY, UH, INFORMATION YOU'RE REQUESTING FROM STAFF? UH, YES MA'AM.
COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, OH, GO AHEAD.
FOR AGENDA ITEM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN, UM, HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO POSSIBLY BECOME MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN FLOOD COALITION AS WELL AS, UH, AN ITEM TO DISCUSS A RESOLUTION FOR THE COALITION AGAINST BIGGER TRUCKS.
YOU WANT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THAT ONE? UH, YES.
IT CAN BE A REGULAR, I MEAN, IT COULD BE WITHIN THE COUNCIL.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT WASTING 10 MINUTES.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? NO.
YEAH, REAL QUICKLY, UH, NOT TO, TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW, AND MR. JAMES HAS JUST WALKED OUT, BUT, UH, WE, WE'VE TALKED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, UH, OPTIONS
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ONE AND OPTION TWO WITH A LA WITHOUT A LOT OF CONTEXT AND CLARIFICATION, UH, TO THE PUBLIC.WE, WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE, THE TWO OPTIONS WITHOUT THE WHY'S AND, UH, YES, DAN, I I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT OPTION THREE.
THERE IS NO OPTION THREE, THE STATUTE.
I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER OPTION.
I'M, I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD JUST ASK THE STAFF TO PRO TO POSSIBLY GIVE US A, GIVE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION.
THE FACT THAT THIS IS A STATE, UH, STATE RULE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THIS.
IT ISN'T JUST US COMING UP WITH IT, ET CETERA.
ANY, ANY OTHERS? COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK? YES, MAYOR.
SO TO SORT OF, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN BROWN SAID, I THINK ON, ON SLIDE 12 ON THE PRESENTATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK, BUT IT SAYS, BASED UPON THAT INPUT COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR PRESENTATION IN OCTOBER TO PROVIDE CLARITY AS TO WHAT WILL BE REGULATED AND HOW IT WILL BE ENFORCED.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIAL TO SORT OF HAVE IF THEY COULD, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK FOR INFORMATION, SO MAYBE A DRAFT ORDINANCE COULD BE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT, UH, PRESENTATION SEPTEMBER 16TH.
JUST TO CLARIFY, IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT DEPENDENT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ANNEXATION, YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
AND THE MAIN THING BEING IN ANNEXATION SERVICES PLAN, AND WE CAN, WE CAN START WORKING ON THAT OR WE, WE HAVE A TEMPLATE OF WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT.
SO, UM, BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO PUT THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? RIGHT ANNOUNCEMENTS
[ Requests and Announcements Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers for updates or information from Staff Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers that items or presentations be placed on a future City Council agenda City and Community Events attended and to be attended (Council) ]
BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR PRO TEMP BROWN.COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON, NOTHING TONIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK, UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A THRIVING WELL WELLNESS CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO, BASICALLY ABOUT TRYING TO HELP THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY BECOME HEALTH HEALTHY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD? UH, YES, I ATTENDED THE LYBARGER PROPERTY TAX UPDATE AND THEN THE TML LAND USE CONFERENCE.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CONFERENCE AND THEY GAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND ON THE LAST DAY, UM, THEY KIND OF PUT IT IN PRACTICAL USE BY DOING SOME, UM, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THEY DID A SKIT OR PERFORMED ALL OF THE PRACTICAL THINGS.
THEY PUT IT INTO SOMETHING SO IT WAS EASY TO BE RELAYED.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT SENATE BILL 10, WHICH WAS GOING TO LIMIT THE TAX RATE FROM 3.5 TO 2.5, IT WENT INTO CONFERENCE, IT CAME OUTTA CONFERENCE, IT FAILED IN THE HOUSE.
UM, RUMOR IS, IS GONNA GO BACK INTO CONFERENCE, BUT AT THIS MOMENT THERE IS NOTHING SLATED FOR IT TO GO BACK INTO CONFERENCE.
ALSO WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I'M APPLYING FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES SMALL CITIES, UH, SMALL CITY COUNCIL CHAIR.
UM, AND IT IS A, A, THE LEAGUE IS WITH A 50,000 OR LESS POPULATION IS WHAT IT DOES, AND IT'S TO GIVE A VOICE AND AN ADVOCATE FOR ON THE NATIONAL STAGE FOR SMALL CITIES.
UM, AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT ALSO A, UH, APPLYING FOR A FEDERAL ADVOCACY COMMITTEE AT NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.