* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. [1. CALL TO ORDER] IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING OF THE SHIRTS, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER. TONIGHT, [2. SEAT ALTERNATE TO ACT IF REQUIRED] WE HAVE MS. JUDY GOIG JOINING US AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER. UH, [3. HEARING OF RESIDENTS This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the Planning and Zoning Commission. Each person should fill out the Speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than three (3) minutes. Discussion by the Commission of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.] WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE HEARING OF RESIDENTS, SO WE HAVE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YEAH. UH, JUST A QUICK TO EVERYONE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES WHEN YOU COME UP. IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU'LL ALSO, IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN UP NOW, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, HERE IN A MOMENT. UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH MIKE KIRBY. YOU GONNA WAIT? OKAY, PERFECT. UH, ROBERT, WE GOLD WOLD MIKE GOLD. I'M SORRY. GOT IT. NOW, DOES THAT, UH, YEAH. MY NAME IS ROBERT WOLD. THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1972. MY WIFE AND I, MY WIFE'S BIRTHED RIGHT BACK THERE. AND WHEN WE MOVED IN, INITIALLY THE HOUSE WAS A DUPLEX. I'M AT 3 0 2, ROUND OFF THE CORNER EXCHANGE, AND MY HOUSE WAS A DUPLEX, AND I WAS TOLD YOU CANNOT HAVE A DUPLEX ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. NOW, THAT WAS IN 72, NOW WE'RE IN 25. AND, UH, I'M ALL FOR EXPANSION IN BUSINESS, BUT NOT SO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. AND NEXT DOOR IN THAT VACANT LOT IS, WELL, REALLY, UH, JIM BROWN WAS THE, UH, SHOP TEACHER AT SAMUEL CLEMENTS. THAT'S WHERE HE, THEY LIVED. AND I WOULD LOOK AT HIS HOUSE AND MY GOODNESS, YOU HAVE NO ROOM. IT'S DEEP, BUT IT'S NARROW, SO IT ONLY MADE SENSE. IT WAS FOR SALE AT THE TIME FOR $5,000. AND I SAID, I'LL TAKE IT. WELL, HE HAD FIRST DIBS ON IT, WHICH MADE SENSE. I, I COULDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WHAT WERE I GONNA DO WITH IT? DEPTH? I ONLY NEEDED A HUNDRED BY, MY HOUSE IS 100 BY 1 25, SO HE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE HIS HOUSE IS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NARROW, BUT IT WAS DEEP, BUT HE HAD NO PLACE TO PARK. SO TO ME, THE ONLY ONE THAT BENEFITS FROM IT IS EITHER 3 0 2 RANDOLPH 3 0 4 OR 3 0 6 OR, UH, NEXT TO ME BEHIND ME, WHERE JIM BROWN USED TO LIVE AT, UH, 6 0 4 OR 6 0 6, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADDRESS IS, BUT IT'S, ANYWAYS, RIGHT BEHIND IT WAS THE LOT NEXT, NEXT TO THE EMPTY LOT. AND, UH, THAT ONLY MADE SENSE TO ME THAT EITHER ONE AND FOUR PEOPLE WOULD BENEFIT. NOW, IF SOMEONE, 'EM WAS TO GO IN AND DO SOMETHING ELSE TO, IT WAS 65 FEET OF WIDTH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH 65 FEET OF WIDTH, UH, BUSINESS WISE AND HAVE PARKING. I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH THAT. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE REASON I'M HERE. I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND OR THE WHY A BUSINESS BECAUSE IT SAYS MAIN STREET. I KNOW MAIN STREET'S A BLOCK AWAY, BUT I COULDN'T HAVE A DUPLEX. AND NOW I'M HERE AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX. I DON'T KNOW. WHERE'S THE PARKING, WHERE'S THE PEOPLE? WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF PROBLEM WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH MULTI-FAMILIES IN, IN THE 65 FEET WIDTH? I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT. AND IF YOU PRESENT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, THEN I'LL SAY YOU SOMETHING LATER ON. BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, MR. RIOS, FRANCISCO RIOS, COME ON UP. SIR, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS FRANCISCO RIOS, 3 0 4 RANDOLPH HERE IN SHIRTS. AND, UH, I OWN THAT HOUSE SINCE 1977 AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND I'M TO, I TOTALLY, UH, I, I TOTALLY DON'T WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AROUND THAT AREA WHERE MY CHILDREN, EVERYBODY GREW UP THERE AT MY HOME THERE. AND, UH, I NEVER KNEW THEY WOULD, THEY HAD A, A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY OF 38, UH, ACRES ON THERE, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT. BUT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THAT, REALLY. AND, UH, I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, I LIVED THERE AND MY KIDS LIVE THERE AND, AND IT'S GONNA REALLY CAUSE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF ANYBODY PUTS IT, I HEARD THAT IT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DUPLEX OR [00:05:01] A HOUSING BUILT BACK THERE AND IT'S REALLY GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS LIKE THAT THERE AT THAT AREA THERE. BUT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT. AND THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. OH, ALRIGHT. UM, HAROLD, I'M SORRY. OKAY, GOOD. GLORIA. OKAY. HI, MY NAME'S HAROLD GLORIA. I LIVE AT 6 0 5 EXCHANGE, SO I'M, I'M NEW TO THE COMMUNITY. UM, I'VE ALREADY JOINED THE LOVE WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORS. UH, I FEEL LIKE PUTTING A BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO ME IS LIKE, Y'ALL NOT LOVING ME AS A NEIGHBOR. YOU KNOW, I CAME TO THIS CITY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TO, TO START OVER TO, TO BRING MY KIDS HERE. AND, UH, IT'S NOT AN EMPTY LOT. IT'S, IT'S GATED AROUND MY PROPERTY AS WELL. SO IT, IT'S, IT FEELS LIKE ONE WITH MY PROPERTY. IT'S NOT JUST SOME EMPTY LOT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF. MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE, BUT I, I DID GIVE IT A FACELIFT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON ME, OF COURSE, UH, FOR THE KIDS. WE HAVE FIVE KIDS, YOU KNOW, THAT RUN AROUND. AND, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE A RIGHT THING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA KEEP MAIN STREET BUSINESS ON MAIN STREET BUSINESS. THIS IS EXCHANGE, I UNDERSTAND ACROSS THE STREET IS, AND THAT'S FAR ENOUGH, YOU KNOW. UM, BUT YEAH, I, I FAIRLY NEW HERE AND I FEEL LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT TO TURN A COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT FOR ME TO WANT TO SELL MY HOME BECAUSE I HAVE A BUSINESS NEXT TO ME WHEN I JUST GOT HERE, YOU KNOW? SO THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S TIME. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ YOUR NAME. UH, THE PERSON FROM 1111 NORTH WALNUT, POTENTIALLY. DID YOU WANT TO, AFTER THE, OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU SIR. UH, STEVEN BURETT. GOOD EVENING. STEVEN BURETT 6 0 8 EXCHANGE AVENUE. I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT MOST EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID. I DON'T SEE ANY REASONING BEHIND THIS NEEDING A COMMERCIAL. I DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, THE PROPERTY IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH IT. I HAD HEARD THAT IT SAYS IT WAS, THEY WANTED DONE FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT BASICALLY FOR MULTIFAMILY. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING CORRECTLY? UH, WE WILL GET INTO IT MORE WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD. I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REQUEST IS EITHER. SO THE, THE STAFF IS GONNA PRESENT THE ITEM HERE IN A MINUTE. AFTER THE HEARING MIGHT'VE BEEN BETTER FOR US TO HEAR WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE SPOKE. YOU'LL GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE IN A MINUTE. WELL THEN, I GUESS I'M DONE FOR NOW UNTIL I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT THE HANDS ARE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. BUT, BUT I'M AGAINST IT AT THIS POINT. . OKAY, THAT WAS EVERYONE SIGNED UP FOR THE HEARING OF RESIDENTS. LIKE I SAID, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER STAFF'S PRESENTATION HERE IN A MOMENT. ALL RIGHT, [4. CONSENT AGENDA:] WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE CONSIDERING THE MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MOTIONS? I DON'T MEAN NOTHING. YOU READ IT. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, THAT IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HECTOR TO RECOMMEND APPRO OR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 1ST, UH, MEETING. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARBON. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE COURT YOUR VOTE. UH, SEVEN VOTES. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, [A. PLZC20250232 - Hold a public hearing and make a recommendation on a request to rezone approximately 0.37 acres of land from Single-Family Residential District (R-2) to Main Street Mixed-Use District (MSMU), located at 603 Exchange Avenue, approximately 200 feet east of the intersection of Randolph Avenue and Exchange Avenue, more specifically known as Guadalupe County Parcel Identification Number 67458, City of Schertz, Guadalupe County, Texas. ] WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION, PORTION OF OUR AGENDA. ITEM A-P-L-Z-C 2 0 2 5 0 2 3 2. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.37 ACRES OF LAND FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R TWO TO MAIN STREET MIXED USE DISTRICT, MSS MU LOCATED AT 6 0 3 EXCHANGE AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET, 200 FEET EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RANDOLPH AVENUE AND EXCHANGE AVENUE, MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS GUADALUPE COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 6 7 4 5 8 CITY SHIRT, GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS, WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 2 3 2. A REZONE REQUEST FOR 0.37 ACRES OF LAND TO MAIN STREET MIXED USE DISTRICT MSMU, WILLIAM WILLINGHAM PLANNER FOR YOUR ORIENTATION. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AERIAL VIEW. YOU CAN SEE IT HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THE PROPERTY IS 0.37 ACRES OF UNPLED LAND. IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES, ZONED R TWO AND IT IS FRONTING EXCHANGE AVENUE RIGHT HERE. NOTIFICATION FOR THE PROPERTY. 29 [00:10:01] PUBLIC NOTICES WERE SENT OUT ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. AS OF TODAY, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND AS OF JUST NOW, I RECEIVED NINE IN OPPOSITION. A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE IS TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS. PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING, S-C-U-C-I-S-D WAS NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND A NOTIFICATION SIGN WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT. SO HERE JUST ANOTHER LOOK OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS AREA IS EITHER R TWO OR MS. MU ALREADY LOCATED AROUND THE AREA FOR SOME BACKGROUND ON THE ZONING AND LAND USE ZONING IS OUTLINED IN UDC SECTION 2155 AND SPECIFICALLY HERE FOR MAIN STREET MIXED USE DISTRICT IN PURPOSE AND INTENT OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR THE AREA ALONG MAIN STREET AND IT ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL USES AND LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES. AND SO I'VE SHOWN THIS PICTURE HERE JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED MSMU LOCATED ON EXCHANGE AVENUE. SO YOU CAN SEE THIS STRUCTURE HERE, THIS HOME HERE, THIS APARTMENT BUILDING HERE AND THIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PSYCHOLOGY CLINIC HERE. THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS, WAS A, WAS ADOPTED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN AT 2024. SO IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC MAIN STREET CORRIDOR. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE, THIS IS THE HISTORIC MAIN STREET DESIGNATION. PER THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLANNED, IT IS INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACES TO CREATE A DYNAMIC URBAN CORE AND TO IMPROVE THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. AND THE INTENT OF THIS DESIGNATION IS TO BE UTILIZED AS A CONCEPT TO EXPAND BEYOND THE HISTORIC MAIN STREET AREA. SO JUST ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE AREA OUTLINED IN PURPLE. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED HERE. YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED MSMU HERE. AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT IS KIND OF IN THIS BRIGHTER AREA IS WITHIN THE MAIN STREET DESIGNATION. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE PROPERTY LOCATED HERE JUST FOR CONTEXT AND JUST AS A REFERENCE, ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN APRIL, 2024. SO THE CITING CONTEXT YOU CAN SEE HERE. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. THE MSMU AND R TWO DISTRICTS LOCATED AROUND THIS AREA. YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL VIEW THAT THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT. IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES. ONCE AGAIN, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE STREET VIEW AND THEN HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY. SO PERMITTED USES AND DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS. THE EXISTING ZONE IS CURRENTLY R TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED ZONE IS MAIN STREET MIXED USE MSM VIEW. SO I WON'T GET TOO INTO THE PERMITTED USES HERE 'CAUSE I'LL GET INTO IT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, BUT JUST TO SEE HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS PRIMARILY RESTRICTED TO JUST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHEREAS THERE ARE SOME MORE USES IN THE MSMU DISTRICT. UH, THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE ALSO A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE R TWO ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES AN AREA OF 8,400 SQUARE FEET, WHEREAS OVER HERE IN THE MSMU IT'S 5,000, SO A BIT SMALLER FOR THE LOT AREAS. SAME WITH THE WIDTH AND DEPTHS REQUIREMENTS. SO IN AN R TWO ZONE, THE PROPERTY MUST BE 70 FEET BY ONE 20 FEET, WHEREAS IN THE MSMU DISTRICT, IT IS 50 BY 100. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THIS REFLECTED IN THE SETBACKS OF THE PROPERTIES AS THE PROPERTIES IN MSMU ARE SPECIFIC FOR SMALLER LOTS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT SETBACKS, SIDE SETBACKS AND REAR SETBACKS ALL DECREASE FROM R TWO TO MSMU. HOWEVER, TO DO, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE THE SAME WITHIN BOTH, BOTH DISTRICTS. SO YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING UP TO 35 FEET IN R TWO AND YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING UP TO 35 FEET M IN MSMU. AND AS A REFLECTION OF THE SMALLER LOTS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS DO CHANGE. SO THE MINIMUM OR THE MAXIMUM, EXCUSE ME, FOR R TWO IS 50%, WHEREAS FOR MSMU IT IS 80%. SO GETTING INTO THE PERMITTED USES HERE, I'LL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THESE A LITTLE QUICKLY, BUT I'LL ALSO PAUSE AND DEFINITELY COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE AS NEEDED. UM, YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED, OR EXCUSE ME, BOLDED AND ITALICIZED WITHIN THE, WITHIN BOTH PERMITTED USE TABLES, YOU CAN SEE WHICH ONES ARE THE SAME AND WHICH ONES DIFFER. SO THE SAME ONES BEING AN ACCESSORY BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL, MUNICIPAL OFFICES, FAMILY DWELLING, ONE FAMILY DWELLING, A PARKER PLAYGROUND OR A SCHOOL. SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT OVERLAP IN MSMU. WHAT CAN BE ADDED INTO THIS, UH, PERMITTED USE WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A BEAUTY SALON OR BARBER, A BOOKSTORE, A DANCE HALL, A DAYCARE CENTER, A MICROBREWERY, A PRINT SHOP, A TWO FAMILY DWELLING. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT EXCHANGE AVENUE LOOKS LIKE AT THIS [00:15:01] TIME. SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO MSMU, YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THIS IS 2 0 4 RANDOLPH. THIS IS CURRENTLY THE SITE OF A PSYCHOLOGY CLINIC AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT ACTUALLY FRONTS ONTO EXCHANGE AVENUE AT THE CORNER OF RANDOLPH AVENUE. THIS IS TWO 19 MAIN STREET LOCATED HERE. THIS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY IS LOCATED IN THE REAR, WHICH IS FRONTING EXCHANGE AVENUE AND WILLIAMS AVENUE. UM, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, IT IS DOING BUSINESS AS SOME KIND OF GYMNASTICS DANCE STUDIO. THIS IS 7 0 4 EXCHANGE. THIS IS, UH, A PROPERTY THAT EXISTS AS RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT IS ZONED MSMU. AND THEN THIS IS 8 0 5 MAIN, WHICH I BELIEVE USED TO BE A HISTORIC HOSPITAL. IT IS NOW EXISTING AS A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING. SO UDC SECTION 21 5 4 D OUTLINES CRITERIA APPRO FOR APPROVAL. SO THE FIRST BEING WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IMPLEMENTS THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPT ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE PLANS. SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE MAIN STREET DESIGNATION IS INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACES TO CREATE A DYNAMIC URBAN CORE AND PROMOTE A PEDE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, ONCE AGAIN, THIS DESIGNATION WAS UPDATED IN APRIL OF 2024. THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE DISTRICT IS A BASE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE USED ALONG MAIN STREET AREA TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY OR LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES. THE CONFERENCE OF LAND PLAN IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THE LONG RANGE VISION OF SHIRTS AND THE REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE DOES IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN. TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY AS PART OF PROMOTING HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, UTILIZING STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONAL USES TO ALLEVIATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. SO THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE, THE MAIN STREET LAND USE DESIGNATION IS CHARACTERIZED BY A VARIETY OF LAND USES AND THE MSMU DISTRICT IS RESERVED FOR EXCLUSIVE USE WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION. SO YOU WOULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. AND THIS ALSO SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT FOR COMPLETE COMMUNITIES WHICH ARE WALKABLE AND DIVERSE WITH HOUS, WITH DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES AND LAND USES, WHICH IS A GOAL THAT IS ESTABLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HERE THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROPERTIES ON EXCHANGE AVENUE THREE. WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND APPROPRIATE WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS HERE IS THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST, WHAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING OUT HERE VERSUS WHAT, WHAT WHAT'LL LOOK LIKE IF THE ZONE IS APPROVED. AND THESE ARE JUST A HANDFUL OF THE PERMITTED USES. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY RESIDENTIAL OR LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS UNDEVELOPED AND ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES ON SMALL LOTS. FOUR, WHETHER OTHER FACTORS ARE DEEMED RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST. SO ALL UDC REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE. S-C-U-C-I-C HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE REQUEST. THE SHIRTS, FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATED TO THE REQUEST SHIRTS. ENGINEERING HAS ALSO CONDUCTED A REVIEW OF THE ZONE CHANGE AND HAS DETERMINED THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THE ZONE CHANGE WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE TO THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. SO RECOMMENDATION, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION DUE TO THE VARIETY OF LAND USES IN THE AREA, THE EXPANSION OF THE PERMITTED USES TO MATCH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2024. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PLZC 2 0 2 5 0 2 3 2. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. THIS IS MY TRANSLATOR. I'M DEAF, SO , I CAN HEAR MOST OF IT, BUT NOT EVERYTHING. UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO BE BRIEF, I'M LEE EDWARDS, UH, 1111 NORTH WALNUT AVENUE IN NO BRAUNFELS, TEXAS. AND I'M A FORMER MEMBER OF PLANNING AND ZONING IN, UH, NO BRAUNFELS. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PROCESSES. UM, WE PUT THIS PROPERTY ON THE MARKET FOR SALE. UH, I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE GET A ZONING, HE, THEY OWNER MR. KIRBY. UH, WE ORIGINALLY WERE LOOKING AT, UM, A DUPLEX, UM, STYLE OF ZONING AFTER TALKING TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THEY RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GO TO MU UH, WE AGREED WITH THAT. WE USUALLY FIND THAT IF WE FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PLANNING STAFF, THAT WE WILL, UH, BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. WELL. WE ANTICIPATE FROM OUR RESEARCH [00:20:01] THAT WE'RE EITHER GONNA GET SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BUILD SMALL MULTIFAMILY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SETBACKS IN THE REQUIREMENTS OR A SMALL LOCAL OFFICE, UH, BASED UPON THE BUSINESSES WE SAW DOWN THERE. WE WOULD SEE THAT THAT WOULD, ONE OF THOSE TWO WOULD PROBABLY BE MOST APPROPRIATE. THEY FIT WITH INSIDE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THAT'S WHY WE PRESENTED IN THE MANNER WHICH WE HAVE. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, WE CANNOT ANSWER QUESTIONS SO FULLY. PLEASE DON'T PHRASE THINGS AS A QUESTION. UM, IF YOU DO ASK QUESTIONS, WE'LL WRITE 'EM DOWN AND TRY TO GET ANSWERS AFTER THE FACT, BUT WE CAN'T RESPOND TO COMMENTS. SO, UM, JUST KIND OF ONE AT A TIME, IF YOU WANT TO TALK NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. IT IS SIX 20 AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, COME ON UP. AND IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I'M BERTHA WOLD AND I LIVE AT 3 0 2 RANDOLPH AVENUE. IT'S ON THE CORNER OF RANDOLPH AND EXCHANGE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT THERE OF SAFETY AND TRAFFIC AND GENERAL WELFARE. WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHEN MAIN STREET BAR, ALL THE BARS THAT ARE ON THE NEXT CORNER, CATTY CORNER FROM US. SO WE'RE ON A CORNER, AND THEN THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET BECAME A BUSINESS WITH COUNSELING. ALL OF THE PAR ALL THOSE PEOPLE PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE ON THE SIDE ON EXCHANGE. WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE BAR COMING AND THEY'RE EITHER WALKING ACROSS OUR YARD OR COMING IN THE CAR AND THE, WE HAVE A NEW NEIGHBOR WITH CHILDREN. OUR CHILDREN ARE GONE, BUT THAT IS OUR RETIREMENT HOME. WE'VE BEEN HERE 50 SOME YEARS. IS THIS GOOD FOR US OR IS IT JUST ONLY GOOD FOR THIS CITY? WE'VE BEEN THERE THE WHOLE SIDE OF THAT STREET. AND BEHIND US IS ALL RESIDENTIAL. WHY ARE WE CHANGING IT NOW WHEN IT AFFECTS US AS WE'RE OLDER NOW, WHY IS THAT? SO, I THAT'S NOT, I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE QUESTION, BUT I DIDN'T MEAN IT TO BE A QUESTION. YOU'RE FINE FOR THAT. YEAH, THAT, THAT'S OKAY. BUT I, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD, LIKE, NO MATTER EITHER ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD COME IN IF, IF Y'ALL WOULD TAKE A DRIVE DOWN THE STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN WHERE IT MEETS SHIRTS, THERE'S APARTMENTS THERE AND THERE'S A HOUSE THAT USUALLY IS RENTED. SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE THROUGH BOTH CARS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CARS PARKED ON THEIR OWN. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A BUSINESS. THEY DON'T, THERE'S NOT JUST ONE CAR. THERE'S SEVERAL CARS AND THEY'RE GONNA PARK RIGHT IN ALONG THE STREETS OR PARK OR GET IN THE WAY OF THE, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S NOT A VERY WIDE STREET. WE, WE HAVE A, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN Y'ALL PUT THE, THE, UM, THE WALKWAYS, THE HANDICAP WALKWAYS, AND THEY USED OUR CORNER TO PUT THE DIRT AND COME BACK AND FORTH WITH THEIR TRUCK. SO SOME OF OUR CURBING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, NOT JUST THAT, ON OURS, ON BOTH NEEDS HAS BEEN NEEDED TO BE DONE FOREVER. AND THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED. BUT NOW WE'RE WANTING TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER HERE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE PROBLEMS IN THAT STREET AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED. THANK YOU. AND, AND I'M BOB, WE AGAIN, AS MY WIFE SAYS, AS SHE BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE, THE CURBING, WE DID HAVE A CURB PUT IN SOME YEARS BACK BECAUSE ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN USED TO SIGN CHECKS FOR Y'ALL. UH, MR. JANAC, HE, HE TALKED TO, TO SOMEBODY AND THEY COME OVER AND THEY, THEY FIXED THE CURB. WELL, AS SHE SAYS, WHEN THEY DID THE, THE IMPROVEMENT FOR THE HANDICAP RAMPS, THAT, THAT WAS GREAT. AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT WIDER WHEN I WALK IN THE MORNING. I HAVE A WIDER, I LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY ON WHICH YOU DID ON CURTIS, THE WHITE SIDEWALKS. IT'S GREAT. AND I HAVE TO BE ON, OUT IN THE STREET. AND, UH, SHE ALSO MENTIONED THE PARKING. NOW WE DO HAVE, I WAS ALWAYS TOLD THAT BUSINESSES ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE PARKING, AMPLE PARKING, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE, ON THE STREET, OR AT LEAST FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE, TO ME IT APPEARS THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET, THE, UH, COUNSELING AND THEY HAVE A BIG PARKING LOT, BUT EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT COME THERE CAN'T PARK THERE JUST FOR, IT'S JUST THERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT I WAS TOLD. ANYWAY. THAT THAT IS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE. AND, UH, UH, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. OH, [00:25:01] I'VE NOTICED ON THE SETBACK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, HE SAID IT WAS 70 FEET. I'VE MEASURED IT TWICE. I GET 65, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT, UH, TERRIBLE AT MEASUREMENT. I'M GETTING OLD, BUT I CAN STILL MEASURE. BUT IF IT'S 60 OR IF IT'S 70, I'LL SAY IT'S 70, 70. IT'S STILL, IF IT'S A BUSINESS THAT'S FIVE, FIFTH ON BOTH SIDES, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF IT'S NOT A BUSINESS THAT'S 10 FEET. SO THERE'S STILL LIMITS PUTTING SOMETHING THERE THAT'S 60 FEET WIDE AND SO MANY FEET DEEP, I DON'T GO DEEP, IT GOES, BUT STILL, IT'LL STILL BE A PROBLEM. PARKING TO ME. AND THEN THE NOISE, I, I DIDN'T MIND BUSINESS COMING IN. I NEVER LIKED THE BAR COMING IN. 'CAUSE I TELL MY WIFE, HERE GOES THERE, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. I GET TIRED OF THAT. I'VE CALLED THE, I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ANYTIME I CALL AND I'VE CALLED 'EM A COUPLE TIMES, JUST A COUPLE TIMES AND STOPS IMMEDIATELY WITHIN FIVE MINUTES, I DON'T HEAR, I DON'T HEAR THE NOISE. I CAN GO TO SLEEP. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS DURING THE DAY AT THAT CORNER, THERE'S NO PARKING ON RANDOLPH, THE WHOLE LENGTH OF RANDOLPH AVENUE, NO PARKING. Y'ALL GO OVER THERE SOMETIME AND SEE HOW MANY CARS PARK AT THE CORNER ON RANDOLPH. AND A FRIEND OF MINE WANTS TO CALL ALL THE TIME. I DON'T DO THAT. I I I WON'T DO THAT. I WON'T CALL FOR THE PARKING. BUT IT IS A PROBLEM. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM ON RANDOLPH. I GOT THIS, THERE'S ROOM ON RANDOLPH, BUT IT'S A BICYCLE LANE ON BOTH SIDES. AND YET THERE CARS PARKED THERE DAILY EXCEPT MAYBE THE WEEKEND, WELL, PROBABLY WORSE THAN THE WEEKEND. I'M, I'M NOT A BAR HOPPER ANYMORE. QUIT DOING THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'LL MAKE POSTED. THANK SIR. ANYBODY ELSE WANT? YEP, COME ON UP. IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THAT PUTTING THAT COMPLEX OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA PUT PUT BACK THERE IS GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND, UH, THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE WHERE THESE, UH, UH, BARS THAT ARE THERE AND CREATED SOMETHING THAT THEY PARK ALL OVER THAT PLACE THERE. AND WITH PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, A BUSINESS LIKE THAT, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE BAD FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE AROUND THAT AREA THERE WHERE WE LIVE AT 3 0 4 AND, AND, UH, AND I FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT IT. AND UH, UM, I JUST, I THINK THIS, THIS HAPPENED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WANTED TO ZONE AT AT A SOME OTHER TIME. BUT, BUT IT IS GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS 'CAUSE THEY DO PARK AT DOWN RANDOLPH AND THEN HAVING THAT THERE WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THERE. AND I FEEL THAT IT'S REALLY NOT NO GOOD TO PUT A COMPLEX THERE AT A RESIDENTIAL AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? AND JUST TO CONFIRM YOUR NAME IS, UH, FRANCISCO RIOS, CORRECT? I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ONCE, TWICE. IT IS 6 28. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? COMMENTS BUDDY. GO FOR IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH IN OUR CITY, THAT WE, WE DISCUSS THE NUMBERS AND WE DISCUSS THE REALITY OF WHERE WE LIVE. CERTS IS GOING TO INCREASE BY, I BELIEVE, 15,000 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. JUST PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT DOUBLE DECKER 35 EXPANSION, BY THE END OF 27, PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN DRONES, THEY'RE COMING ALREADY. AND THE CHAOS OF 35 IS UNBEARABLE. AND IF YOU THINK THINGS ARE BAD NOW, WAIT UNTIL THAT'S DONE. UM, EXPANSION IS HAPPENING AND GROWTH IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE. AND THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PUT HOUSES AND BUSINESSES WHEREVER THERE'S AN OPEN LOT. AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY AND THAT'S THE TRUTH. AND IF ANYONE'S TELLING YOU OTHERWISE, THEY'RE LYING TO YOU. UM, BUT WE, WE HAVE TO GROW RESPONSIBLY AND I KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT'S COMING TO YOUR MIND. UM, BUT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A LOT OF SAY ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR PROPERTY. JUST LIKE YOU HAVE WHAT GOT SAY WITH YOUR PROPERTY. AND SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING THINGS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT [00:30:01] CODE THAT THEY'RE MEETINGS, THE, THE CRITERIA THAT WE SET OUT FOR THE CITY AND THE GROWTH RESPONSIBLY, IT'S HARD FOR US TO TELL A PROPERTY OWNER YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN PARKING ON THE STREET IS JUST THAT PARKING ON THE STREET. IT'S NOT ANYBODY'S, IT'S ALL OF OURS. AND WHEN I VISIT A BUSINESS OR I VISIT A FRIEND OR SOMEONE COMES TO SEE ME, THEY PARK ON THE STREET NEXT TO MY HOUSE OR ACROSS FROM, AND THAT'S JUST A FRIENDLY THING TO DO. AND WE SHARE OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT OURS. AND SO, ALTHOUGH WE HEAR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, SOMETIMES THE HARD TRUTH IS WE CAN'T GET IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS IF IT MEETS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE PUT OUT AS A CITY. I SAY MY PIECE. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, I, SO I'LL, I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO THE, UM, THE MAIN STREET MAKE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE USE SCREEN, WILLIAM? I'M SORRY. YEAH, SO I, I THINK MY BIGGEST HANGUP ON THIS IS THE NOPE, GO ONE FORWARD. GO BACK. YEAH. NOPE. YEAH. NOPE. YES, THAT'S IT. UM, IS THE ALLOWANCE OF BARS, I KNOW IT'S LISTED AS TAVERN. UM, I I THINK THAT'S MY BIGGEST HANG UP ON THIS REQUEST IS I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. IT WOULD, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING AND THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WOULD HAPPEN. UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT LOOKING THROUGH THIS WHOLE LIST, I COULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT, UM, THE, THE DUPLEX, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT'S PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE PLACE. BUT THE, THE BAR IS DEFINITELY MY BIGGEST HANGUP. WE, WE CAN'T LIMIT USES. LIKE, WE CAN'T SAY WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR EVERYTHING FOR MARE MIXED USE WITH THE LIMITATION. NO, IT'S ALL, YEAH. YEAH. SO , I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALRIGHT. SO JUST AS SOME BACKGROUND, THE ACTUAL ADDITION OF TAVERN IS RELATIVELY RECENT IN THE LAST TWO-ISH YEARS. YEAH. UM, WITH THE THOUGHT OF BEING MAIN STREET AS A WHOLE MAIN STREET, THE CORRIDOR. CORRECT. UM, THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND IT IS TO HAVE THAT MIX OF RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND THAT ENTERTAINMENT NIGHTLIFE. I MEAN, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPIN GROVE AND, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE ALREADY THERE, THERE'S 30 ONES THERE. I I THINK MY BIGGEST, UH, HANG UP IS I, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIVING THERE TO NOW FIND THEMSELVES IN A CONTINUOUS, EXPANDING LIKE BAR SCENE. UM, AND I, I, I, YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MY BIGGEST HANG UP ON IT IS IT'S LIKE I UNDERSTAND THE INTENTION AND ESPECIALLY ALONG MAIN STREET, YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE THE ARGUMENT OF IT'S ALONG MAIN STREET PROPER. UM, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK I COULD PROBABLY GET MORE BEHIND IT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO GET MORE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT MM-HMM . UM, IT'S THAT SPECIFIC USE THAT I THINK IS MY BIGGEST HANGUP. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WHERE YOU CLOSE AT SIX AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ON, I MEAN, A RESTAURANT MAYBE MIGHT CARRY ON INTO THE NIGHT A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM. BUT I MEAN, RESTAURANT HOURS REALISTICALLY AREN'T GONNA CARRY ON. I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME BAR HOUSE IS OPEN UNTIL EVERY NIGHT, BUT I'M SURE IT'S PAST MIDNIGHT ON WEEKENDS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE MY BIGGEST HOLD UP. AND IN RE AND IN APPROVING LIKE THIS, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ELSE IS A BUSINESS THAT WOULD HAVE NINE TO FIVE TYPE HOURS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE AN ANTIQUE SHOP KEEPING PEOPLE UP AT NIGHT, BUT GOOD THEY COULD, I PROVE ME WRONG, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, OH, PEOPLE, OKAY, MISS UH, MISS GOLD ON THE END. WELL I KNOW THAT THE CITY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA AND IT'S OUR HOPES THAT AT SOME POINT THAT EXPANSION DOES HAPPEN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND GO MAYBE FROM A SHOP TO AN EATERY TO A COFFEE SHOP AND SO ON. UM, BUT THE APPLICANT MENTIONED A DUPLEX OR A SMALL OFFICE. BUT IF IS, CAN WE PUT A CONTINGENCY ON AN APPROVAL OR IS IT AS, UM, MR. ROCKER SAID IT'S ONE OR, OR WALLACE RATHER ALL OR NOTHING. YEAH, SO WITH THE STRAIGHT ZONING, IT'S EVERYTHING. SO LIKE ON OTHER CASES WE TYPICALLY TRY TO REMIND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT MAY SAY THIS, BUT [00:35:01] YOU'RE APPROVING ALL OF THE LAND USES THAT YOU SEE HERE. SO WE CAN'T DO LIKE A, IT'S MSMU, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS AND THIS, RIGHT. IT, IT'S ALL OF THE LAND USES, YOU SEE. OKAY. AND THEN IT BEING 0.37 ACRES, IS THERE, THERE'S REQUIREMENTS PARKING PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, I KNOW ON MAIN STREET IS THAT WITH ALL MSMU? SO LIKE WHAT ARE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THIS SIZE LOT? IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. CORRECT. SO IN THE MSMU DISTRICT, IT'S ONLY GONNA HAVE THE TWO REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. SO WITH THIS SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT, WITH ANY OF THE PROPERTIES, WE'RE ONLY GONNA REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE TWO. AFTER THAT, IT'S UP TO THEM TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO ADD MORE PARKING, IF THAT'S WHAT THEIR BUSINESS ENTAILS. UM, BUT WE ARE ONLY REQUIRING TO PER THE CITY REQUIREMENT. AND WHERE WOULD THEY ADD THE ADDITIONAL PARKING? IF YOU HAVE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK OR ON EITHER SIDE? IS IT FIVE FEET ON THE SIDES AND 10 BACK? SO THE BUILD IT'S THE BUILDING SETBACK. SO I MEAN, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE SPACE RIGHT. AND SO WE'LL EVALUATE THAT WITH THE SIDE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THERE. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT IT'S TWO SPACES OFF, OFF STREET, OFF THE STREET. CORRECT. COMMISSIONER HECTOR, THANK YOU. UH, I GUESS TRYING TO, UH, UH, WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND WHAT THE, THE VISION FOR MAIN STREET MIXED USE WAS IN THE BEGINNING. I, I AM STRUGGLING WITH BUSINESSES COMMINGLING WITH RESIDENCES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. AND I, SO WHEN I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PURPLE, THAT'S THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE, RIGHT? AND IT GOES TWO BLOCKS OFF OF MAIN STREET. WE'RE, RIGHT NOW THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES. AND I GUESS WE'RE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO PUT BUSINESSES RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO RESIDENCES AND THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. AND THEN THE PARKING ON THE STREET, I DON'T KNOW WHO LOOKED AT IT AND SAID THAT IT WASN'T A SAFETY CONCERN OR A TRAFFIC CONCERN. I, I GUESS I, I'M NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT. SO I CAN SPEAK ON THE COMP PLAN PIECE, RIGHT. IN 2024 WHEN WE ALL MET AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MADE THE RECOMMENDATION AND CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY ADOPTED THE UPDATED COMP PLAN, THIS WAS A PART OF IT. EXPANDING THAT MAIN STREET DESIGNATION FROM JUST MAIN STREET WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. AND EXPANDING IT UP TO CURTIS, THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEING, IT BEING A MORE WALKABLE, EXPANDING THE CORRIDOR, REALLY HAVING A DESTINATION, THE IDEA OF A FUTURE DESTINATION FOR SHIRTS IN THIS AREA. HOWEVER, AFTER SOME TIME, IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FEELS LIKE WE MAYBE WENT TOO FAR WITH THE ADOPTION IN 2024, WE CAN PUT A PAUSE AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF THE COMP PLAN. AGAIN, MAYBE WE EXTENDED THE MAIN STREET DESIGNATION TO FLORIDA, CURTIS, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK DOWN TO EXCHANGE. WE'RE HAPPY TO, UM, IF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE US TO DO THAT RESEARCH AND BRING A WORKSHOP FORWARD, WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT JUST THIS PIECE OF THE COMP PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT. YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. UH, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA REIGN ON THE PARADE OF ANY BUSINESS OWNER OR LAND OWNER, UH, THAT WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CAPITALISM IN THIS COUNTRY. UH, BUT I DO THINK THAT PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THE RESIDENTS THAT ALREADY LIVED THERE, IF I LIVED IN ANY ONE OF THOSE HOMES THERE ON EXCHANGE, I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. YOU KNOW, MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A BUSINESS, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVE CURRENTLY, I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS THAT, UH, THE, THE PLAN OR THE VISION MAY LOOK FINE WHEN WE DISCUSS IT, BUT WHEN WE GO TO EXECUTE AND NOW WE'RE IMPACTING REAL PEOPLE WITH REAL LIVES, WITH REAL CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY REGARDING SAFETY AND TRAFFIC AND PARKING ON THE STREET, THAT BECOMES A CHALLENGE. AND I'VE DRIVEN UP EXCHANGE, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IF, IF A CAR IS PARKED ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, IT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. SO, UH, FOR ME [00:40:01] THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN. AND UH, AND I ACTUALLY WOULD WELCOME AND SUPPORT, UH, HAVING, YOU KNOW, A WORKSHOP WITH AN OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE TRUE VISION IS FOR MAIN STREET MIXED USE BECAUSE WE ARE IMPACTING CITIZENS OF SHIRTS, WHETHER WE LIVE THERE OR NOT. RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON EXCHANGE, UH, ON CURTIS. UH, I'VE SEEN THE PARKING ON RANDOLPH AVENUE, WHICH I DIDN'T EVEN THINK THAT WAS LEGAL, BUT DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PARK. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE, QUITE HONESTLY, JUST TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT. AND THEN TALK TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND. I MEAN, PEOPLE LIVE IN ALL THOSE HOMES. UH, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE INVITED TO THE TABLE TOO, TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN IS, UH, OR THE VISION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT BETTER TIME TO DO IT THAN NOW. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD VOTING YESTERDAY WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT VISIONS AND UH, AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, TO HAVE THEIR SAY BECAUSE THIS, I UNDERSTAND FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU KNOW, MAIN STREET MIXED USE WAS A BIG DEAL. I GET IT. UH, THE PROBLEM IS THAT ALL THE HOMES BEHIND IT ARE IMPACTED BY THAT. YOU KNOW, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CALL THE COPS BECAUSE THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD FROM A BAR THAT'S BEEN ZONED TO BE NEXT DOOR OR ACROSS THE STREET OR ADJACENT FROM ME. I DON'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, SO, AND I WOULD HAVE TROUBLE, UH, APPROVING THIS. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER HUGHES. THERE WE GO. LOOKING AT THE SIZE OF THE PLOT, I'D NOT SEEN MUCH OF A BAR BEING THERE. PLUS ALSO TOO, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT EVEN IF THEY DECIDE TO PUT A BAR THERE, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A C OF O AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES WHERE THEY COULD BASICALLY SHUT DOWN ANY BAR BECAUSE IT WAS PROXIMITY TO A HOME. THIS AREA'S FAIRLY SMALL. TRAFFIC CONCERNS. IF YOU DRIVE ANYWHERE ON A SIDE STREET IN THIS TOWN, IT'S ALL A ONE WAY STREET. I MEAN, COMING OVER HERE, I'VE GOTTA WAIT FIVE MINUTES FOR THREE CARS TO PASS AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT. SO TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM, ROADS ARE A PROBLEM. THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE THAT WAY ON THESE SIDE STREETS. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING WHERE THE CON THE CONCEPT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DONE IN CILO AND SOMETHING WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN GREEN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT MIXED USE AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO CONTROL IT NOW. BUT THE SIZE OF THE LOT, I'M LOOKING MORE PROBABLY A SMALL OFFICE. EVEN A DUPLEX WILL NOT REALLY WORK THERE AS FAR AS HEIGHT'S CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO EITHER PUT IT WHERE THEY NEED TO OR IT'S GONNA BE TWO STORY WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE GROWTH PATTERN. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PLAUSIBLE, BUT THE CO IS GONNA MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION AND ANY KIND OF BAR OR ANY KIND OF BUSINESS LIKE THAT, THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE THAT ARELI THAT ARE LIVING THERE IS GONNA BE HIGHLY, HIGHLY REVIEWED AND GONNA BE DETERMINED. THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE CANCELED OUT. THE BARS ON MAIN STREET, I CAN SEE THEM BEING THERE. YEAH, THEY'RE PROBLEMATIC. UM, AND NOISE IS AN ISSUE, BUT, UM, I JUST DON'T SEE THE ISSUE WITH HAVING THIS RIGHT NOW AS A MIXED USE, CONSIDERING IF IT WAS A SMALL OFFICE SPACE, THAT WOULD ALSO, THAT WOULD IMPACT AS FAR AS THE, THE AREA ON EXCHANGE, THAT WOULD ALSO PROBABLY INCREASE THE, UM, PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH WOULD HELP EVERYBODY IN THE AREA AND WOULD ABLE TO, UH, MAXIMIZE THEIR, THEIR INVESTMENT WHILE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A SMALL REASONABLE, PROBABLY EIGHT TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY LOCATION. COMMISSIONER MCMASTER. OKAY. LOOKING AT THIS, THE PROPERTY SIZE DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EITHER ZONING, THE ZONING IT IS NOW, OR THE ZONING THEY'RE REQUESTING. CORRECT. SO I BELIEVE THE FRONTAGE IS 75 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? ON THIS PROPERTY PER, THE SURVEY IS 75 FEET. SO IN, LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEPTH YOU HAVE. THE SURVEY WAS 2 0 9, SO 75 BY 2 0 9. SO THIS SPECIFIC LOT WAS MEETING THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR OKAY, R TWO, WAS IT SOMEONE THAT SAID THAT IT WAS NEGLIGENT? WAS IT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WAS IT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS YOU'RE ASKING? I, I BELIEVE SO. HERE, LEMME GO THERE. YEAH, SO IT WAS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT [00:45:01] ZONING IS, MEANING IT WAS R TWO AND THEN THEY TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBLE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE MSNU DISTRICT. AND SO THEY BASICALLY JUST CALCULATE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CHANGE THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING THERE. AND SO PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION YOU COULD READ, THIS IS AN ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION RIGHT THERE IN THAT PHOTO, SO I CAN READ IT FOR EVERYONE. THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO MSMU WOULD INCREASE THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS THAT COULD BE CREATED BEYOND WHAT THE CURRENT R TWO ZONING WOULD CREATE. HOWEVER, DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS OF MSMU ALLOWING FOR LIMITED MULTIFAMILY AND LOW IMPACT COMMERCIAL, THE INCREASED PEAK HOUR TRIPS WOULD BE RELATIVELY SMALL AND FAR BELOW THE THRESHOLD TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THEREFORE, THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGED THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE. SO WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO BASICALLY WHEN THEY MEET A HUNDRED PEAK HOUR TRIPS, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AN ENTIRE STUDY, UM, FOR DEVELOPERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW IT'S BEING IMPACTING TRAFFIC. OKAY. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE ENGINEER IS SAYING HERE, THIS ONE DOESN'T REACH A HUNDRED PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND SO IT'S NOT GONNA TRIGGER ANY KIND OF TIA OR I SUPPOSE AS THEY WOULD SAY, A NEGLIGIBLE CHANGE TO THE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS, UM, I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I MAY, MAYBE IT'S FOR STAFF, THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO BUFFER WISE, FENCE WISE, LIKE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND LIKE HOW WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SEPARATION, THEY HAVE TO DO CERTAIN FENCES AND STUFF, THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO MEET OUR NORMAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'D BE THE FIVE FEET. IF IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AND MAIN STREET MIX USE MM-HMM . DOES HAVE, UM, FLEXIBILITY AND LOWERS THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THEN WHAT A STANDARD LIKE GENERAL BUSINESS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, HECTOR, SO YOU SAID LOWERS THE REQUIREMENT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WHICH WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO, TO MEET WHATEVER THAT REQUIREMENT IS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF MSMU AND HAVING THOSE LOWER, UM, DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S EASIER FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO POTENTIALLY FLIP A RESIDENTIAL HOME TO BE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OR BACK AND FORTH. UH, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT MSMU, SO IS TO ALLOW THAT GREATER FLEXIBILITY. OKAY. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMEBODY, I'M SORRY, WHO FORGOT TO ASK, UH, THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. SO THIS LOT IS A PRETTY LARGE LOT CONSIDERING THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND SO I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE, THAT, THAT ONE IS R TWO AND IT'S MEETING THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR R TWO, UM, FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT, FOR THE REST OF, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION AS WE WOULD SAY, THE REST OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, NOT MEETING THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A ZONE CHANGE. YEAH, I, UH, AM JUST STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TOO RESIDE PROPERTIES RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED, WHETHER IT'S A DUPLEX THAT GOES IN THERE OR A SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH, UH, I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT DICTATES OR CONTROLS THE HOURS OF OPERATION AS WELL. SO, UH, AGAIN, I THINK FOR THE CONVERSATION, IT'S, IT'S EASY FOR US TO SAY THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE IMPACT TO RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE BASED ON WHAT WE BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT'S PROPOSED. BUT ONCE IT'S REZONED AND ONCE THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, UH, THE ONLY ONES THAT IMPACTED AT THAT POINT ARE THE RESIDENTS. AND SO I GUESS FOR ME, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, DOES UH, MIXED USE OR OR MSMU, UH, IS IT REALLY FEASIBLE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THERE? I MEAN, I GET THE WHOLE WALKABILITY THING. UH, I JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT, I GUESS IS MY POINT. BUT, BUT THANK YOU MS. ICK. I JUST WANNA COMMENT ON THAT, MR. HECTOR. UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN MAIN STREET, YOU WILL FIND, UM, ALMOST EVERY OTHER, NOT EVERY OTHER LOT, BUT THERE'S BUSINESS RESIDENTIAL, BUSINESS RESIDENTIAL. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO POSE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE. UM, THERE AND GETTING TO THE PARKING AND THINGS, AGAIN, THE STREETS ARE PUBLIC PARKING, THERE IS NO, I MEAN, THIS HAS COME BACK AND FORTH, [00:50:01] UH, TO P AND C MANY TIMES, UH, ON MAIN STREET AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MINIMIZE THAT OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STREET PARKING. BUT IN THE END, IT'S PUBLIC. YOU CAN PARK ON THE STREET AND YOU'LL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET. NOBODY OWNS THAT. THE CITY OWNS IT OR IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT SORT OF THING. UM, AND I AGREE IN TERMS OF THIS DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A SPACE FOR A BAR, BUT MORE SO FOR A SMALL BUSINESS OR A DUPLEX, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. UM, AND SO I DON'T REALLY SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, CAUSING MORE TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF IT IS A SMALL BUSINESS OR IF IT IS A DUPLEX. IF IT'S A DUPLEX THAT'S TWO FAMILIES, HOW MANY CARS WOULD THAT BE? TWO TO FOUR POSSIBLY. UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS. UH, COMMISSIONER CARONE, UH, I BELIEVE EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS TO, UM, THE RESIDENTS AND SOMETIMES WE, WE SAY THE WORD IMPACT AND HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. I BELIEVE SOME OF THE POSITIVE CONNOTATIONS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT SOMETIMES WHEN BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS INVEST MONEY IN AN AREA IS THAT YOUR PROPERTY VALUES GO UP. UM, AT THE SAME TIME THEY MAY LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTIES AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I MAY WANT TO FLIP THIS HOUSE. OH, I ONLY WANT TO TAKE HOME, HOME EQUITY LOAN OUT AND FIX IT UP. OR I WET EVEN WANT TO RENT THIS OUT. OR I MAY WANT TO FIND THE DEVELOPER WHO MADE THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR INTO A BUSINESS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HOW MUCH YOU OFFERED HIM FOR MINE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING WE OWN IN THIS LIFE IS FUNGIBLE. WE CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING WITH US. OKAY? AND SO, UM, THERE COMES A TIME WHERE WE SELL EVERYTHING. I, I'VE PROBABLY SAID SIX TIMES THAT I'M NEVER SELLING THIS CAR. AND THEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I DID? I SOLD THE CAR. AND SO I, I KNOW IT'S TOUGH SOMETIMES TO LET GO OF THINGS THAT YOU HAVE A, A, A FIN, UH, FINANCIAL AND AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO. BUT WHEN SOMETIMES THE SELL THE, THE, THE, THE SIGNS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS AREA IS CHANGING. THE, THE, THE PROCESS OF THAT CHANGING IS STARTING TO, TO INFECT, NOT INFECT, UH, AFFECT MY AREA. AND MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO LOOK INTO WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS AS AN OWNER. AND YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, A CAPITALIST SOCIETY. EVERYBODY DOES WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM FINANCIALLY. AND I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT IF YOU LIVE IN THIS AREA THAT YOU LOOK INTO, WHAT IS THE BEST THING FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GOING FORWARD? BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, I WOULDN'T WANNA BAR DOWN THE STREET FROM ME EITHER. SO I WOULD PROBABLY LOOKING IN A REALTOR AND GO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT COULD I GET FOR THE HOME THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING IN SINCE 1972 FOR 53 YEARS? UM, I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE, BUT THAT CHOICE SOMETIMES IS TAKEN OUT OF YOUR, UM, HANDS BY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO YOU. WE, YOU DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. AND SO THEY DO. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS JUST, JUST LIKE YOU DO FOR YOURS. AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT. UM, SO THE LAST TIME I DROVE DOWN MAIN STREET IS TODAY, I THINK I RECOGNIZED MAYBE A COUPLE OF RESIDENCES THAT HADN'T YET BEEN CONVERTED TO BUSINESSES, RIGHT. THAT I RE I I REMEMBER SEEING TWO. UH, AND, AND I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY BET GOOD MONEY ON THAT. UH, THE OTHER PART IS REALLY ABOUT, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WHO DO WE WANNA BE AS A CITY, RIGHT? I'M, I'M ALL FOR PEOPLE PROFITING, BENEFITING FROM ASSETS THAT THEY OWN, BUT TO WHAT EXPENSE TO OUR NEIGHBORS? AND THE POINT I GUESS I WANNA MAKE IS THAT IF THE ZONING FOR MSMU IS WHAT IT IS, AND IT'S GONNA REMAIN THAT I DON'T SEE WHAT THE, UH, THE CHALLENGE IS WITH BRINGING TOGETHER ALL THE RESIDENCES, OUR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE WITHIN THAT DISTRICT AND HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CANNOT SIT HERE AND SAY THAT IT'S OKAY FOR IF IT WAS MY MOTHER WHO LIVED THERE AND HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 53 YEARS TO TELL HER, WELL, SELL YOUR HOME AND GO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S JUST NOT REASONABLE. AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE HAD A OPEN, A TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, [00:55:01] YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PRESUPPOSE WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO WITH PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN AS WELL. SO, UH, AGAIN, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT MS. MU IS TO THE CITY AND TO BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE, UH, BUSINESSES, UH, WITHIN THAT AREA. AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENCES, UH, THAT ALSO, UH, LIVE IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE OTHER, WHEN WE DID THE COMP PLAN IN 24, WHAT DID THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LOOK LIKE? DO YOU REMEMBER? I KNOW IT'S BEEN YEAR, SO SURVEYS. YEAH. IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE MAGAZINE THAT WE WERE, UM, ASKING FOR FEEDBACK. WE HAD MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS. YEAH. OKAY. THERE WAS ENGAGEMENT AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WENT OUT, I MEAN, MAYBE NOT HERE, BUT OVERALL THERE WAS ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE DID THE, THE COMP PLAN. SO I THINK WE, WE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. YEAH, OKAY. YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE GOT AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE WOULD HOPE. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. OH YEAH, MS. , I, I'VE ALSO ATTENDED TWO OPEN PRESENTATIONS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ALONG MAIN STREET AND THINGS, UM, OVER THE YEARS, AT LEAST TWICE THAT WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT I'VE ATTENDED MYSELF. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL WHO WILL HAVE THE FINAL VOTE AT A FUTURE DATE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RE UM, MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF P LZ C 2 0 2 5 0 2 3 2 TO CITY COUNCIL SECOND. A MOTION THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HECTOR. UH, JUST A REMINDER FOR VOTING, AN I VOTE IS IN AGREEMENT TO RECOMMEND DENIAL. A NO VOTE IS TO NOT RECOMMEND DENIAL. PLEASE VOTE I HAVE SEVEN VOTES. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THAT MOTION FAILS. IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE PLZC 2 25 0 2 32 AS WRITTEN SECOND. THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER CARBON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VIC. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE VOTE. THAT IS SEVEN VOTES QUEEN PUBLISH THAT. OH, THAT MOTION CARRIES. SO THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. DO WE HAVE A DATE ON THE ITEM? SO THE ITEM IS NOT SCHEDULED YET, BUT IT SHOULD BE ON THE DECEMBER 3RD COUNCIL MEETING, I BELIEVE DECEMBER 2ND COUNCIL MEETING. SO FOR EVERYONE WHO'S IN ATTENDANCE HERE, UM, OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. SO YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK AND ABSOLUTELY HAVE YOUR VOICES BE HEARD ONCE AGAIN AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING. IT HAPPENS IN THE SAME FASHION THAT THIS PUBLIC FORUM ALSO DOES. SO DECEMBER 2ND IN OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS HERE. THANK YOU WILLIAM. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD INTO THE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK REAL QUICK? WE GOOD? NO. ALRIGHT. ITEM SIX A PL [A. PLFP20250241 Waiver - Consider and act upon a request for a waiver in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the Final Plat of the Bunny Stop #9 Subdivision, approximately 7.8 acres of land located approximately 55-feet southwest of the intersection of FM 2252 and IH 35 N Access Road, also known as Comal County Property Identification Number 119021 and Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 114083, City of Schertz, Comal and Guadalupe County, Texas.] FP 2 2 5 WAIVER. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER IN RELATION TO ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE FINAL PLAT OF THE BUNNY STOP. NUMBER NINE, SUBDIVISION APPROXIMATELY 7.8 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 55 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2252 AND IH 35 NORTH ACCESS ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS OMA COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 1 9 0 2 1 IN CO GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 1 4 0 8 3 CITY ASSURES OMA COUNTY IN GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS. GOOD EVENING, DA . GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MR. WALLACE PLFP 20 25 0 2 4 1 WAIVER. A SEPTIC WAIVER REQUEST ON APPROXIMATELY 7.8 ACRES OF LAND [01:00:01] DAISY MARQUEZ SENIOR PLANNER. HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN. IT IS, UM, APPROXIMATELY WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2252 AND IH 35 NORTH. UM, IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A SEPTIC WAIVER. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE OUT THE PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE IN YELLOW AND THE CLOSEST SEWER IS APPROXIMATELY 3,690 FEET AWAY, UH, SOUTH ALONG OLD STEIN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM ENGINEERING MEMOS HERE, UH, THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SEPTIC WAIVER UNDER TWO CONDITIONS. THEN AN ESCROW IS PROVIDED TO CO TO COVER THE COST OF EXTENDING THAT PUBLIC SEWER MAIN. AND THEN, UM, ONCE THE SEWER MAIN IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT THEY CONNECT AND UM, WE DID DISCUSS THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THE SEPTIC THEY DO INSTALL IS BUILT IN A FASHION SO THAT WHEN THAT SEWER MAINE COMES TO THEIR PROPERTY, THEY CAN EASILY CONNECT IT AND CEASE OPERATION OF THE ONSITE SEPTIC. AND THEN HERE'S THE PROPOSED PLAT THAT WE WILL DISCUSS IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. AND AGAIN, ENGINEERING DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS WAIVER WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED WAIVER TO INSTALL AN ONSITE SEWER FACILITY WITH THE CONDITIONS PROVIDED BY ENGINEERING LISTED BELOW. AGAIN TO PROVIDE AN ESCROW AMOUNT TO COVER THE COST OF EXTENDING THAT PUBLIC SEWER MAIN ACROSS THE REAR SUBDIVISION BOUNDARY. AND THEN ONCE SEWER IS, UM, EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY CONNECT TO IT. SO, ALRIGHT, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MAKE IT READY TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. MOTION GO FOR IT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLFP 2 0 2 5 0 2 4 1 WAIVER. MR. MCMASTER, JUST TO BE CLEAR WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY STAFF, YES. WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY STAFF. THANK YOU. SECOND, THAT IS A, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY STAFF SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ICK, THERE'S ANOTHER COMMENTS PLEASE VOTE. SEVEN VOTES. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON. [B. PLFP20250241 - Consider and act upon a request for approval of a final plat of the Bunny Stop #9 Subdivision, an approximately 7.8 acre tract of land located approximately 55-feet southwest of the intersection of FM 2252 and IH 35 N Access Road, also known as Comal County Property Identification Number 119021 and Guadalupe County Property Identification Number 114083, City of Schertz, Comal and Guadalupe County, Texas. ] PLFP 2 0 2 5 0 2 4 1 CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLOT OF THE BUNNY, SUB NUMBER NINE SUBDIVISION IN APPROXIMATELY 7.8 AT TRACT LAND KNOWN APPROX, OR LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 55 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2252 AND IH 35 NORTH ACCESS ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS COMA COUNTY PROPERTY. IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 1 9 0 2 1 IN GUADALUPE COUNTY PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 1 1 4 0 83. CITY ASSURES AL IN GUADALUPE COUNTY, TEXAS, DAISY . GOOD AFTERNOON ONCE AGAIN. PLFP 2020 5 MILLION 2 41. UH, PROPOSED 7.8 ACRE FINAL PLAT OF THE BUN STOP SUBDIVISION DAISY MARQUEZ SENIOR PLANNER AGAIN, HERE'S THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY OUTLINED IN GREEN. IT'S UNDEVELOPED. IT'S LOCATED WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF I 35 AND FM 2252. HERE IS THE PROPOSED PLAT. IT IS ONE BUILDABLE LOT. THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW THEY'RE SHOWING THE CROSS LAW ACCESS EASEMENT ACROSS THE FRONT AS REQUIRED PER UDC, UM, ADJACENT TO ALL GB ZONE PROPERTIES AND THEN AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR UM, DOES UM, CROSS THIS PROPERTY ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION AND KIND OF JUST TO ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING US. AND THEN UM, THERE IS AN AWKWARD TRIANGLE LOT THAT IS GONNA BE A 900 NON BUILDABLE LOT DUE TO THAT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION. SO THE PROPOSED FINAL PLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS. THE PLAT WAS REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY ENGINEERING, FIRE AND PLANNING AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PLFP 20 25 0 2 4 1. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DAISY. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS I MAKE A MOTION TO TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN PLFP 2 2 5 0 2 4 1. I'LL SECOND THAT. THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER CARBON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE VOTE. THERE ARE SEVEN VOTES. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. P [C. PLPP20250218 Waiver — Consider and act upon a request in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the Preliminary Plat of the MMD Subdivision, approximately 5 acres of land, located approximately 3,100 feet northeast of the intersection of FM 2252 and FM 482, more specifically known as Comal County Parcel Identification Number 43645, City of Schertz, Comal County, Texas. ] LPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8 WAIVER. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST IN RELATION TO ONSITE [01:05:01] SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLOT OF THE MMD SUBDIVISION. APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3,100 FEET NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2252 AND FM 4 82. MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS MONT COUNTY PRIOR TO ALL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 4 3 6 4 5 CITY ASSURES, OMO COUNTY, TEXAS, WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION P LPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8. A SEPTIC WAIVER REQUEST FOR FIVE ACRES OF LAND WILLIE MOHAM PLANNER. SO THIS IS THE MMD PRELIMINARY PLAT WAIVER REQUEST. UH, THE PROPERTY IS 4.825 ACRES. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS A MANUFACTURING DISTRICT LIGHT AND IT HAS DIRECT ACCESS ONTO FM 4 82. IT IS ALREADY EXISTING AS A PLUMBING SERVICE BUSINESS. IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SHE SEWER CCN AND THE C-C-M-A-C-C-N. THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION PLA. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PROPERTY HAS, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES ALREADY LOCATED ON IT AND SO THE STAFF ANALYSIS IT IS 1,800 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST CONNECTION TO SEWER. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ALREADY USING AN ONSITE SEPTIC FACILITY. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAVE REQUEST TO NOT EXTEND AND CONNECT THOSE TO THOSE FACILITIES AND THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THE SERVICES NOR INTEND TO EXTEND UTILITIES. AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THIS AND SUPPORTS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDATION THE SUBJECT SIDE IS SERVED BY OSSF ALREADY. THE NEAR SEWER CONNECTION IS APPROXIMATELY 1,800 FEET AWAY AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO SANITARY SEWER ONCE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO SERVE THE AREA. THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST AS PRESENTED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU WILLIAM. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PL PP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8 WAIVER. SECOND AS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARBON. UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE VOTE. THAT'S SEVEN VOTES. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? THAT MOTION CARRIES ALL PLPP 2 0 2 5 2 1 8 [D. PLPP20250218- Consider and act upon a request for approval of a preliminary plat of the MMD Subdivision, approximately 5 acres of land located approximately 3,100 feet northeast of the intersection of FM 2252 and FM 482, more specifically known as Comal County Parcel Identification Number 43645, City of Schertz, Comal County, Texas.] CONSIDERING ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF YOUR PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE MMD SUBDIVISION. APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES OF LAND APPRO LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3,100 FEET NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 2252 AND FM 4 82 MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS COMAL COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 4 3 6 4 5 CITY ASSURES AL COUNTY TEXAS, WILLIAM GOOD EVENING COMMISSION P LPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8 5 ACRE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE MMD SUBDIVISION. ONCE AGAIN YOU CAN SEE HERE THE PROPERTY'S ACREAGE 4.825 ACRES ZONED AS M1 DISTRICT MANUFACTURING LIGHT WITH DIRECTS AXIS ONTO FM 4 82. IT'S GONNA BE ONE BUILDABLE LOT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLANT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS. THE PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY ENGINEERING, FIRE AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS PRESENTED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU WILLIAM. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING MOTIONS MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8 SECOND. THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLP 2 0 2 5 0 2 1 8 BY COMMISSIONER MASTERS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOLD. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE VOTE. LEMME PUBLISH THAT PLEASE. UH, MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. P LPP [E. PLPP20250255 Waiver — Consider and act upon a request in relation to on-site sewer facilities for the Preliminary Plat of the Hime Subdivision, approximately 10 acres of land, located approximately 2,300 feet west of the intersection of FM 1518 and IH-10, more specifically known as Bexar County Parcel Identification Number 339370, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.] 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5 WAIVER CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST IN RELATION TO ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLOT OF THE HY SUBDIVISION. APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED, UH, APPROXIMATELY 2,300 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF F 1518 AND I 10 MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEX COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 3 9 3 7 0 CITY. SHES BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. PLPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 2 0 2 5 5. SEPTIC WAIVER REQUEST FOR 10 ACRES OF LAND. THIS IS THE HEIM SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT WAIVER. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ACREAGE OF 9.99 ACRES. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS GB DISTRICT AND RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT RA. IT HAS DIRECT ACCESS ONTO I 10. IT IS CURRENTLY SERVED BY THE SHIRT, SEWER OR LOCATED WITHIN THE SHE SEWER CCN AND THE C-C-M-A-C-C-N [01:10:01] AND THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME AND THERE ARE NO CONNECTIONS TO WATER OR WASTEWATER AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THE PLOT STAFF ANALYSIS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INSTALL AN ONSITE SEPTIC SYSTEM OSSF. UM, PER THE APPLICANT'S LETTER OF INTENT, THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTS OR PLANS FOR THIS SITE AT THIS TIME. THEY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO SERVICES OR EX OR THEY WILL, THEY WILL NOT EXTEND, THEY WILL NOT CONNECT TO SERVICES NOR EXTEND THE UTILITIES. THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THE WAIVER REQUEST AND HAS DETERMINED THEY SUPPORT APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDATION THE NEAREST SEWER CONNECTION IS APPROXIMATELY 3,300 FEET AWAY AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO SANITARY SEWER ONCE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO SERVE THE AREA. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER REQUEST AS PRESENTED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU WILLIAM. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING MOTIONS ONLY PATRICK DO 'EM ALL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLP 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5 WAIVER AND THAT'S AS PRESENTED, CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. SECOND, THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GOLICK. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS. PLEASE VOTE. CAN WE PUBLISH THAT PLEASE? AS SEVEN VOTES THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. PL PPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5 [F. PLPP20250255 — Consider and act upon a request for approval of a preliminary plat of the Hime Subdivision, approximately 10 acres of land located approximately 2,300 feet west of the intersection of FM 1518 and IH-10, more specifically known as Bexar County Parcel Identification Number 339370, City of Schertz, Bexar County, Texas.] CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE HEIM SUBDIVISION. APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 2,300 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND IH 10 MORE SPECIFICALLY KNOWN AS BEAR COUNTY PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 3 3 9 3 7 0. CITY SHIRTS, BEAR COUNTY, TEXAS, WILLIAM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION P LPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5 A 10 ACRE PRELIMINARY PLAT ONCE AGAIN THIS IS THE HEIM SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT. ITS ACREAGE IS 9.99 ACRES. IT IS ZONED AS GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL RA. IT HAS A DIRECT ACCESS ONTO IH 10. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2,300 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1518 AND IH 10 IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THE PLAT AND OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS. THE PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH NO OBJECTIONS BY THE ENGINEERING, FIRE AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS PRESENTED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU WILLIAM. QUICK QUESTION, DO Y'ALL ALWAYS MAKE PEOPLE PUT THE ZONING ON THE PLA OR IS THAT JUST IN ON THE PAST HERE? IT'S A REQUIREMENT ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. OH, OKAY. INTERESTING. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLPP 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5. SECOND AS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PP 2 0 2 5 0 2 5 5 BY COMMISSIONER MCMASTER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARBONE, PLEASE VOTE. UH, CAN WE PUBLISH THAT? ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT. MOVING INTO ITEM SEVEN [A. Requests by Commissioners to place items on a future Planning and Zoning Agenda] COMMISSIONERS. ANY REQUESTS TO PLACE ITEMS ON A FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA? I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED THE WORKSHOP. CAN YOU ADD POTENTIALLY MAKING TAVERN A SPECIFIC USE TO THE ZONING DISTRICT? ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. COULD WE ALSO ADD THE UH, BREW PUB AS A SPECIFIC USE? ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS. ALRIGHT. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS? ANNOUNCEMENTS BY STAFF. ALL RIGHT. UH, ALL OF THE, THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN THE PACKET ONLINE. UH, WE ARE, IT IS SEVEN 14 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. DO. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.