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OKAY.

[ Call to Order]

UH, TODAY'S FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE CHURCH CITY COUNCIL, UH, REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START OFF WITH THE OPENING PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE'RE GOING TO, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE PRAYER BY, UH, COUNCILMAN UH, MACALUSO.

LORD, I THANK YOU.

I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR BLESSINGS.

I ASK YOU TO, TO BE WITH US TODAY, HELP US MAINTAIN AND KEEP OUR FOCUS ON SERVICE.

I ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR NEW EMPLOYEES, OUR, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS, AND, UH, KEEP THEM SAFE.

PLEASE BE WITH US.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE ONE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, COUNCILMAN MACALUSO.

UH,

[ Special Announcement Hal Baldwin Scholarship - Students attending for the Hal Baldwin Scholarship need to sign in on the sheet located on the back podium. If you are watching remotely, please email Sarah Gonzalez at sgonzalez@schertz.com to virtually sign in. Please direct any questions to Ms. Gonzalez.]

WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT, THE HOW BALDWIN SCHOLARSHIP STUDENTS ATTENDING FOR THE HOW BALDWIN SCHOLARSHIP.

NEED TO SIGN IN ON THE SHEET LOCATED IN THE BACK OF THE PODIUM.

IF YOU'RE WATCHING REMOTELY, PLEASE EMAIL SARAH GONZALEZ AT SGONZALEZ@SHIRKS.COM TO VIRTUALLY SIGN IN.

PLEASE DIRECT ANY QUESTIONS TO MS. GONZALEZ.

WE'LL MOVE

[ United Acts of Kindness Day - February 13, 2026 (Councilmember Heyward)]

ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, UNITED ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY, FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD UNITED ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, 2026.

WHEREAS RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY IS RECOGNIZED ON FEBRUARY 13TH AS AN ANNUAL TRADITION OF PERFORMING ACTS OF KINDNESS.

WHEREAS MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FOCUS TOGETHER TO CHANGE THE WORLD, ONE RANDOM ACT OF KINDNESS AT A TIME.

WHEREAS FIRST UNITED IS SEEKING TO COMPLETE 1 MILLION ACTS OF KINDNESS IN ONE DAY THROUGH THE HELP AND GENEROSITY OF RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, CHURCHES, NONPROFITS, BUSINESSES IN THE IN CHURCH COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS UNITED ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY WILL INSPIRE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO SPREAD JOY, HOPE, AND LOVE TO FRIENDS, FAMILY, COWORKERS, AND NEIGHBORS OF CHURCHS.

AND WHEREAS THE UNITED ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY POSITIVELY IMPACTS LIVES BY EXTENDING LOVE AND ALLOWS US TO BE MORE KIND.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ALLISON HAYWARD ON BEHALF OF MAYOR RALPH RODRIGUEZ OF THE CITY OF CHURCH, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 13TH, 2026 AS UNITED ACTS OF KINDNESS DAY.

AND DO WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FIRST UNITED ? THANK YOU.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT VERY IMPORTANT.

YES, IT IS.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA

[ Employee Introductions Public Works Drainage: Richard Medelez-Drainage Worker Public Works Water: Romeo Pena-Water/Wastewater Operator Trainee; Dylan Allen-Water/Wastewater Operator Trainee; Chandler Layer-Water/Wastewater Operator Trainee; Brad Olivarri- Water/Wastewater Operator Trainee; Daniel Rodriguez-Water/Wastewater Operator Trainee Neighborhood Services: Ruben Lara-Sanitarian]

GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTIONS.

WE'LL START OUT WITH PUBLIC WORKS DRAINAGE.

TREVOR WALKER, DRAINAGE CREW, CHIEF COUNSEL.

I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A NEW EMPLOYEE TO THE DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT.

RICHARD MODELEZ STARTED WITH US THE 15TH OF DECEMBER.

UH, SOME OF THIS, UH, HOBBIES AND ACTIVITIES HE LIKES TO DO OUTSIDE

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OF WORK IS SPEND TIME WITH FAMILY.

EVERYBODY LIKES TO BARBECUE.

THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD ONE.

UH, LIKES TO SPEND HIS TIME OFF WITH HIS SON AND HIS FAMILY.

OF COURSE, EVERYBODY LOVES FAMILY TIME.

IF HE COULD VISIT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, HE SAYS CUBA AND MEXICO.

SO, .

UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

OPEN SHIRTS.

SO, NEXT WE HAVE PLUCK PUBLIC, UH, WORKS, WATER ISH, PARDO, UH, WATER WASTEWATER CREW.

CHIEF, GOOD EVENING, .

MY NAME IS, UH, ISMAIL PADO.

I'M A CREW CHIEF, UH, WATER WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRAD VARS.

UH, BRAD WAS WITH US A WHILE BACK AND, UH, WENT TO THE ARMY, UH, FOR FOUR YEARS, AND HE MISSED US AND CAME BACK TO US.

.

UH, ONE OF HIS, UH, FAVORITE MOVIES IS, UH, GOONIES, A CLASSIC.

UH, HIS FAVORITE MOVIE, UH, MUSIC IS ROCK.

UH, AND ONE OF HIS, UH, PLACES HE WOULD LIKE TO TRAVEL TO WOULD BE JAPAN.

OKAY.

I ALSO HAVE, UH, DANIEL RODRIGUEZ HERE, UH, WATER WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

UM, ONE OF HIS FAVORITE MOVIES IS STAR WARS, UH, METAL, METAL AND ROCK MUSIC.

HE'S ALSO IN A BAND.

WHAT IS YOUR BAND? MORTA.

MORTA PLAYS IN A BAND, , AND ONE OF HIS PLACES HE'D LIKE TO VISIT IS HAWAII.

SO THESE THE TWO GUYS IN THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

I CAN SAY.

SO SAY AGAIN.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK AND, UH, I'M HERE TO SERVE, SO THANKS.

UH, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M LIKING CHURCH SO FAR.

I CAME FROM BEAR COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYONE'S TREATED ME NICELY SO FAR.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, LISA LOCKIN, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE REUBEN LAURA.

HE'S OUR NEW SANITARIAN.

REUBEN IS A GRADUATE OF UTSA AND HE MAJORED IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND HE HAS OVER FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE WORKING IN HEALTH INSPECTIONS.

HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM EDINBURGH, TEXAS, AND HE IS BEEN IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA FOR 12 YEARS.

HE'S HAPPILY MARRIED, AND HE IS A PROUD FATHER OF TWO CHILDREN.

AND OUTSIDE OF WORK, HE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME, HIKING, EXPLORING NEW SITES, AND VISITING THEMED THEME PARKS WITH HIS FAMILY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING RU? YEAH.

UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I'M GLAD TO BE, UH, PART OF THE TEAM.

I HAD LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME ALL OUR, UH, NEW EMPLOYEES AND, UH, WE DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY'RE GONNA MAKE TO THE CITY OF CHURCH AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

SO, ONCE AGAIN, LET'S, UH, CONGRATULATE THEM FOR COMING ON WITH CITY SHARKS.

[ City Events and Announcements Announcements of upcoming City Events (B.James/S.Gonzalez) Announcements and recognitions by the City Manager (S.Williams) Announcements and recognitions by the Mayor (R.Rodriguez)]

OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING, UH, CITY EVENTS.

UH, SARAH GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.

SO, FIRST ONE IS ON, UH, THIS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH.

COUNCIL WILL BE HAVING THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT.

IT'LL BE LOCATED AT GREEN VALLEY, SUD AND THEIR BOARDROOM THERE, UM, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 6 0 5 FM 4 65 IN MARION.

THIS WILL BE A 9:00 AM START TIME ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH WILL BE THE MOTHER SON DANCE AND THE DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE.

THE MOTHER SON DANCE KICKS OFF AT FOUR AND DADDY DAUGHTER IS AT SEVEN AT THE CIVIC CENTER.

THEN WE HAVE THE, UM, THE CANVASSING FOR THE RUNOFF ELECTION FOR PLACE SEVEN WILL BE ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 9TH AT 6:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON FEBRUARY 12TH, WE HAVE THE TRAIL RIDER LUNCH OUT AT PICK PARK AT 11:30 AM ON THE 14TH WILL BE A NATURE DISCOVER SERIES AT CRESCENT BEND NATURE PARK, BEGINNING AT NINE 30.

CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH FOR PRESIDENT'S DAY.

AND THEN LASTLY,

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WE WILL HAVE OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING ON FEBRUARY 17TH AT 6:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS BY THE CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A COUPLE OF PROMOTIONS THIS MONTH.

WE'RE REALLY HAPPY FOR THIS FOLKS.

MOVING UP.

WE HAD AMY ANDERSON MOVE FROM OUR MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH, OR MIH PARAMEDIC TO COMMUNITY HEALTH COORDINATOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

JUSTIN LANGFORD WAS PROMOTED FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO SANITARIAN AND IN PD IAN MCMATH AND JOHN ORTIZ WERE BOTH PROMOTED FROM OFFICER TO SERGEANT.

AND THEN ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GREAT JOB TODAY AT THE GROUNDBREAKING AND KUDOS TO GREG AND HIS TEAM AND THE MARKSMAN FOLKS FOR PUTTING ON A, A REALLY NICE EVENT AND HAVING, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT GOING AND, AND HAVE THAT, SEE THAT PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.

SO, GREAT JOB ALL THE WAY AROUND.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UH, I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UM, A FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, WE HAVE DR.

ROBERT SHERIDAN WITH US, AND I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO ALSO RECOGNIZE A MEN AND WOMEN OF CHURCH CMS CHURCH FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTING THE CI CITY OF CILLO ON A STRUCTURE FIRE WHERE THEY WENT IN AND SAVED A LIFE.

SO, UH, UH, CHIEF, UH, THANK YOU MEN AND WOMEN FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

SO, ALRIGHT.

ALL

[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]

RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE HEARING OF THE RESIDENTS MAYOR, UH, PRO TIM DAVIS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, MR. MAYOR, FIRST UP IS KELLY KLAY.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

COUNCIL CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS KELLY CALIS.

I WORK FOR THE SHIRTZ POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I AM HERE FOR, UM, AS PART OF THE CHAMBER'S LEADERSHIP CORE, UM, PROGRAM.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND, UM, WATCH A CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THIS, UM, PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, MR. MAYORS, BOB JAMESON, BOB JAMESON, 45 0 4 BRUSH CREEK DRIVE SHIRTS.

Y'ALL HAVE SEEN ME HERE BEFORE AND IT'S THE SAME STORY.

UM, THE CONSTRUCTION AT, UM, 3 0 0 9 AND STEIN ROAD.

I'M SURE YOU ALL TRAVEL THAT WAY AND SEE THE CONCRETE ICON.

UH, MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND IT.

UM, WE'VE SUFFERED DAMAGES THROUGHOUT THIS CONSTRUCTION AND, UH, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE OR I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE WITH THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

SO I'M NOT HERE ABOUT THAT.

WHAT I'M HERE FOR IS TO HELP WHOEVER LIVES IN SHIRTS THAT MIGHT HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO THEM.

I REALLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUILDING CODES AND THE PLANNING FOR THE LAND TO GET ENOUGH OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.

20 FEET ISN'T ENOUGH, ALLOWING THEM TO MILL AWAY 12 FOOT OF LIMESTONE SO THEY CAN GET A FLAT SURFACE IS TOO MUCH.

RUNNING TWO ROCK CRUSHERS TO CRUSH ALL THE LIMESTONE THAT THEY MILLED OFF CREATED A HUGE DUST PROBLEM.

IF I PUT A LADDER OUT THE SECOND STORY WINDOW OF MY HOUSE, I WOULD GO PARALLEL AND I COULD WALK OVER TO THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING.

35 FOOT OFF THE GROUND IS TOO FAR IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I NO LONGER SEE THIS ONSET.

IN ESSENCE, I LIVE BEHIND A PRISON.

UM, I'M TRULY DISAPPOINTED AND I KNOW THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO FOR ME, BUT MAYBE THE NEXT TIME YOU DO ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BE BUILT, PEOPLE WILL, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THEM AND HELP THEM OUT.

SO THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, MR. MAYOR'S.

UH, BRIAN ORR.

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HELLO.

UM, JUST WANTED TO BE HERE AS KIND OF A OBSERVER.

I'M HERE AS PART OF THE LEADERSHIP CORPS AND JUST WANNA SEE THE PROCEEDINGS AND HOW EVERYTHING GOES.

MR. MAYOR.

NEXT UP IS MAGGIE TITTERING.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WE HAD OUR, UH, LIVING WELL HEALTH AND HOME SHOW.

VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THREE HOURS.

WE HAD OVER 300 AREA RESIDENTS, FAMILIES COME IN AND OUT.

VENDORS WERE VERY HAPPY.

THERE WERE FREE FLU SHOTS, HEALTH SCREENINGS, UM, EVERYBODY JUST, WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD TESTIMONIALS.

SOME FOLKS THAT COME EVERY YEAR.

UH, SOME FOLKS THAT WERE REALLY EXCITED THAT THERE WERE MORE, UH, HOME PROVIDERS FOR SERVICES.

SO, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR ON THE 17TH OF FEBRUARY, THE MUCH ANTICIPATED AND AWAITED STATE OF THE CITIES, UH, FOR OUR LUNCHEON, WE, UM, ARE PREDICTING WE WILL BE SOLD OUT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ALREADY REGISTERED FOR THAT.

SO ALL THREE CITIES HAVE BEEN MOM ON THE WORD ABOUT WHAT THEIR VIDEOS ARE ABOUT.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING THOSE VIDEOS IN THE PRESENTATIONS OF ALL THE SUCCESSES OF THE CITIES FROM LAST YEAR AND ALL THE PROJECTS COMING UP THIS YEAR.

ALSO, UM, IRONICALLY ENOUGH, SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE AT GREEN VALLEY, SUD AT NINE O'CLOCK THIS FRIDAY, WE ARE ACTUALLY THERE REALLY CUTTING THEM FOR BEING IN THEIR NEW BUILDING AT NINE O'CLOCK.

SO THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOU ALL AS PART OF THIS PICTURE.

BUT, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE, UH, THEY WANNA OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE THEIR BRAND NEW BUILDING, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL.

THEY OPENED IT UP A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO.

UM, BUT ANYWAYS, IF YOU HAVE A FREE MOMENT BEFORE YOU ALL GET STARTED ON YOUR STRATEGIC, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU PART OF THAT.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO RIBBON CUTTINGS FOR THIS MONTH THAT ARE AT THE KRAMER HOUSE.

ONE IS ON THE 20TH AT ONE 30 FOR TAYLOR AND TAYLOR.

UH, AND THE SECOND IS ON THE 25TH OF FEBRUARY AT 10:00 AM FOR LIVING TO THE PLUS.

WHENEVER WE HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTINGS AT THE CHAMBER HOUSE, IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER A HOME-BASED BUSINESS OR THEY'RE TOO FAR AWAY AND THEY WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY TO SHOW WHAT THEY HAVE.

SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE THE 20TH AT ONE 30 OR THE 25TH AT 10:00 AM AND, UH, WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND THANKS TO, UM, ALLISON FOR COMING OUT TO COLLECTION STATION AND SHIRTS.

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL TOWN HOME AREA THAT IS, UM, THE AMENITIES.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE AT A RETREAT AND YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IN SHIRTS JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF IT.

THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

SO IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE TO TAKE A LOOK, YOU NEED TO GO TAKE A LOOK.

VERY LAST.

UM, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT LEGISLATIVE ISSUES FOR NEXT YEAR'S SESSION.

I MET WITH MY GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS LIAISON, UM, MICHAEL CARPENTER.

AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT START REVOLVING, WE'RE WAITING TILL AFTER THE PRIMARIES HAPPEN, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND START DISCUSSING POSSIBILITIES.

WE KNOW BILLS WILL NOT BE FILED UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT TO START LOOKING OUT FOR OUR CITIES AND OUR BUSINESSES NOW.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE GOING AROUND, WHETHER IT IS CITY RELATED, WHETHER IT IS BUSINESS RELATED, PLEASE UH, SHOOT MICHAEL OR MYSELF AN EMAIL AND WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

NEXT UP IS JIM AND JANE HOOVER.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS JIM HOOVER, MY WIFE JANE.

WE ARE, UH, LONGTIME RESIDENCE OF CILO SHIRTS.

UH, WE JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO SHIRTS ON BENT TREE DRIVE, UH, IN GREENS, SHIRE OAKS, WHERE THEY HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL 200 YEAR OLD HERITAGE OAK TREES.

WE ARE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY FRONTIER.

THEY HAVE COME THROUGH AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HEIGHT LIMIT ON OUR TREES IS 15 FEET ON THE ROAD.

AND THIS THE FRONTIER TRUCK.

IF I WAS A GAMBLING PERSON, I WOULD SAY THAT TRUCK IS PROBABLY 18 OR 19 FEET HIGH.

THAT TAKES OUR WASTE AND EMPTIES IT INTO THE TRUCK.

WELL, THEY, THEY HAVE TAKEN OUT TWO OF OUR OAK TREES ALREADY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BENT TREE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN BENT TREE, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE.

IT'S LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFULLY, BUT WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH FRONTIER MANAGEMENT, WASTE COMPANY, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH REPUBLIC.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REMEDY IS, BUT IT'S SAD TO ME THAT WE'RE LOSING THESE 200 YEAR OLD OAK TREES BECAUSE OF NEGLIGENCE OF OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

AND I JUST WANNA BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION

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SO WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF REMEDY FOR THIS.

NOW, THIS HAS HAPPENED TWICE ALREADY, AND WE HAVE A TREE IN THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE THAT EVERY TIME THE WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY GOES THROUGH THERE, THEY PULL ON OUR BRANCHES IN THE FRONT OF OUR TREE AND OUR TREE IS OVER 15 FEET HIGH.

BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REMEDY IS, BUT IT'S SAD TO ME THAT THESE TREES ARE BEING DESTROYED BY OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

YEAH.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE TREES, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY TOLD Y'ALL THAT THEY TOOK OUT THE FIRST ONE.

THAT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO.

BUT THEY, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM US.

UH, WE THINK THE TRUCK JUST BACKED INTO IT THIS TIME.

HE CAME THROUGH AND TORE OFF HALF OF A TREE AND JUST KEPT GOING.

AND, UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE'S A SMALLER TRUCK THAT CAN GO THROUGH THAT AREA, BUT THAT IT HAS TO BE THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING.

BUT WE WERE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'S DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO THEY DON'T TAKE OUT MORE TREES, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO BE TAKING OUT THE TREES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS BETWEEN THEM TAKING OUT THE TWO TREES.

WE KNOW THEY CAN DRIVE BETTER THAN THAT AND THEY JUST HAVE TO BE ATTENTIVE.

SO IT'S JUST CARELESSNESS AND THOSE TREES ARE NOT GONNA COME BACK ANYTIME SOON.

YEAH, AND I, MYSELF PERSONALLY, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S, MAYBE THE COUNCIL WILL KNOW IF THERE'S A MONETARY VALUE TO THESE TREES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

HERITAGE OAK ARE PROTECTED BY THE STATE, SO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME ANSWERS ON THAT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU HEARING US.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

NEXT I'M SORRY, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? COULD, COULD YOU LET US KNOW WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE FIRST TREE IS? WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE BOTH ON THE SAME ISLAND.

YEAH, BOTH ON THE SAME, BOTH ON THE SAME ISLAND.

ONE'S ON ONE SIDE AND THE ONE THAT WENT OUT THIS.

OKAY.

SAME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS MR. JOHN GREEN EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S JOHN GREEN.

I'M A HUSBAND, FATHER, AND A LOCAL ATTORNEY.

AND GOD WILLING, I'LL BE THE NEXT COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGE AFTER THE PRIMARY ON MARCH 3RD.

I WANT TO COME HERE, INTRODUCE MYSELF TO Y'ALL.

I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, WHY I'M RUNNING WHAT I THINK I COULD DO BETTER.

UM, SO JUST TO START OUT, WHAT IS THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW? THERE'S TWO COUNTY COURTS OF LAW.

IT'S COUNTY COURT OF LAW, COUNTY COURT OF LAW, NUMBER TWO, THEY'RE SISTER COURTS.

THEY HAVE THE SAME FUNDING, SAME STAFFING, SAME EVERYTHING.

AND THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE A VARIETY OF CASES.

THIS IS FAMILY LAW, JUVENILE, CIVIL, PROBATE, AND CRIMINAL LAW.

BUT AFTER 2021 COUNTY COURT OF LAW, THE ONE I'M RUNNING FOR IS RECUSED ITSELF FROM CRIMINAL FAMILY AND JUVENILE LAW.

BUT THOSE CASES HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.

AND SO ALL OF THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN BOTTLENECKED IN THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW TOO, WHICH HAS CREATED A HUGE DISPARITY IN THE AMOUNT OF CASES, UH, EACH COURT SEEN.

IN FACT, I, I GOT A PUBLIC RECORDS, UH, FROM THE 2025 YEAR COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER TWO AT 1800 CASES FILED IN IT THAT YEAR, COUNTY COURT OF LAW HAD JUST UNDER 600 CASES.

SO IT'S A THREE TO ONE RATIO.

THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THESE, UH, COURTS ARE TAKING ON.

AND THE REASON THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT IS AS GUADALUPE COUNTY GROWS, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THE COUNTY.

MORE AND MORE CASES ARE GONNA GET FILED OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

IN ADDITION, WE USED TO HAVE FOUR DISTRICT JUDGES.

AS Y'ALL MAY KNOW, WE JUST LOST JUDGE STEELE, UH, DUE TO REDISTRICTING.

SO ALL OF HIS CASES HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE TOO, BUT THEY CAN'T GO TO THIS COURT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TAKING THE FAMILY LAW, OR AT LEAST IT WASN'T UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.

UM, IN ADDITION, I JUST DON'T THINK THIS COURT'S BEING RUN VERY EFFICIENTLY AND, AND CURRENTLY IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PART-TIME COURT.

UH, IT ONLY HAS DOCKET ABOUT ONCE A WEEK, UM, ON AVERAGE AND ACTUALLY MADE A DEMONSTRATIVE.

I GOT THE PUBLIC RECORDS FOR THE, THE SCHEDULE FOR 2025.

UM, AND I, UH, PUT THAT ON THE CALENDAR FOR JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

UM, SO AS I'M GOING THROUGH, I'D LIKE TO SHOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU CAN SEE ANY THREE DOCKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HELD LAST YEAR READILY, THE ONES THAT ARE CANCELED, A THIRD OF THE DOCKETS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HELD IN 2025 WERE CANCELED.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP, WE CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DOCKS THAT ARE HELD ONCE A WEEK, UM, TO FIVE TIMES A WEEK TO MAKE IT A FULL-TIME COURT.

AND I THINK THAT THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 600 CASES FILED IN THIS COURT VERSUS THE 1800, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE STAFF, UM, FOR COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER TWO.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN BALANCE THAT OUT.

SO MY GOAL WHEN I COME INTO OFFICE IS TO TAKE ON CRIMINAL LAW, FAMILY LAW, AND JUVENILE LAW IN ORDER TO SPLIT THE CASELOAD BETWEEN THE TWO CASES AND ALSO TAKE ON MORE, MORE JURY TRIALS.

THIS COURT HAS ONLY HELD TWO JURY TRIALS THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

UH, THE SISTER COURT HAS HELD 15 JURY TRIALS.

SO THE DISPARITY IN WORKLOAD IS, IS

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ASTRONOMICAL HERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, INTRODUCE MYSELF, TELL YOU WHY I'M RUNNING, AND I TELL YOU WHAT I THINK THE PROBLEMS ARE IN THIS INDIVIDUAL COURT, AND SPECIFICALLY HOW I PLAN TO FIX IT, WHICH IS BY TAKING ON THE CASELOAD THAT I DON'T THINK IS BEING TAKEN ON RIGHT NOW.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, MR. MAYOR IS RAQUEL GUTIERREZ.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND SCHUTZ RESIDENTS.

I'M AL GUTIERREZ.

I RECITED 10 16 SILVER TREE AND TONIGHT I'M ANNOUNCING THAT I AM A CANDIDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL.

PLACE SIX.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A QUICK STORY BECAUSE IT'LL EXPLAIN WHY CARE SO DEEPLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

AS A MILITARY SPOUSE, WE RELOCATED TO SHORTZ THE SUMMER OF 1991.

THE POPULATION HOVERED AROUND 8,000 RESIDENTS.

AND FM 3 0 0 9 WAS A TWO LANE ROAD.

OUR 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WOULD RIDE HER BIKE ON WHAT IS NOW A FIVE LANE FM 3 0 0 9.

BACK THEN, THAT FELT COMPLETELY NORMAL TODAY, MOST OF US WOULD NOT CONSIDER THAT SAFE.

BACK THEN, SHIRTS DIDN'T HAVE BIG BOX BUSINESSES, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS IN EVERY CORNER BECAUSE AT THE TIME, SHIRTS DIDN'T HAVE A NEED FOR THEM.

THAT ALONE TELLS THE STORY.

SHIRTS HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

TODAY OUR POPULATION IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 45,000 IN GROWTH, DEMAND, SMARTER PLANNING, AND RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING.

MEMORIES MATTER BECAUSE THEY REFLECT WHAT SHIRTS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT COMMUNITY, FAMILY SAFETY AND STRONG QUALITY OF LIFE.

LET ME BE CLEAR MY APPROACH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN CONSERVATIVE VALUES, RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING, AND REAL ACCOUNTABILITY TO TAXPAYERS.

OUR CITY BUDGET SHOULD BE TREATED AS A TOP RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IT IMPACTS TAXES, SERVICES, AND THE TRUST RESIDENTS PLACED ON CITY LEADERSHIP.

MY VISION AND PRIORITIES ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

KEEP SHIRTS SAFE, KEEP SHIRTS STRONG, AND MAKE SURE THE BASICS ARE DONE RIGHT.

I'M COMMITTED TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, STRONG SUPPORT FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, MAINTAIN QUALITY, QUALITY OF LIFE, KEEP SURES A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

MAKE SMART INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT KEEP PACE WITH GROWTH, WATER, ROADS, DRAINAGE, AND WELL-DESIGNED TRAFFIC FLOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN RESPONSIBLY TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL DEFICIENCIES.

I'VE MADE SHIRTS MY HOME FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES.

I'VE SEEN AND LIVED THE GROWTH.

I'M READY TO HELP GUIDE WHAT COMES NEXT WITH STEADY AND RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP.

I INVITE YOU TO CONNECT WITH ME.

LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR CONCERNS.

BECAUSE SHIRTS DESERVES INFORMED VOICES AND STRONGER VOTER TURNOUT.

I'D BE HONOR AND HUMBLE TO EARN YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE FOR CITY COUNCIL PLAY SIX ON APRIL THE FOURTH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING ENGAGED.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THAT'S EVERYONE THAT'S SIGNED UP FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY.

SINCE WE HAVE

[ Consent Agenda Items The Consent Agenda is considered self-explanatory and will be enacted by the Council with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless they are removed from the Consent Agenda upon the request of the Mayor or a Councilmember.]

NO MORE, UH, HEARING OF RESIDENCE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY AND WILL BE ENACTED BY THE COUNCIL WITH ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS THEY'RE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UPON THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS NEEDING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, MA'AM.

NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND REMOVE RESOLUTION 26 DASH R DASH 0 1 8 AUTHORIZING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE TECH STOP PROJECT TO CONSTRUCT A GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING OF FM 3 0 0 9 OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND FM 78 IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT AND IT'LL BE THE FIRST ITEM UP, UH, ON DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. SO, HAVING REMOVED NUMBER FIVE, CAN I GET, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 4, AND SIX.

SO MOVED SECOND.

OKAY.

HAVING A MOTION BY COUNCIL

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MEMBER HAYWARD.

A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.

UH, CAN I GET EVERYONE TO CAST THE VOTES PLEASE? CAN I GET THE VOTES PUBLISHED? ALRIGHT.

HAVING SIX YAYS, NO NAYS.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT,

[5. Resolution 26-R-018 - Authorizing a letter of support for the TxDOT project to construct a grade-separated crossing of FM 3009 over the railroad tracks and FM 78 in the City of Schertz (B.James/K.Woodlee)]

MOVING ON TO, UH, ITEM FIVE, RESOLUTION 26 DASH R DASH 0 1 8 AUTHORIZING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE TEXTILE PROJECT TO CONSTRUCT A GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING OF FM 3 0 0 9 OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND FM 78 IN THE CITY OF SHIRKS.

UH, GO AHEAD, BRIAN.

OH, OKAY.

SO, UM, AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE PAST.

IT'S ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

UH, WE HEAR LAMENTS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT CONGESTION IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND PART OF WHAT HAPPENS IS NOT ONLY AS OUR COMMUNITY GROWS, BUT AS THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US GROW, THAT TRAFFIC INCREASES.

AND SO, AS FOLKS SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED, UH, SIGNALS ON FM 3 0 0 9 AND, AND IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET OUT AND MAKE A LEFT, YOU'RE GLAD THEY ADDED THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND MAKE A LEFT.

BUT IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY MAYBE WHO'S JUST PASSING THROUGH ON 3 0 0 9, UH, YOU GET FRUSTRATED THAT OCCASIONALLY YOU HAVE TO STOP AT RED LIGHTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL'S APPROVED THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF SHORES SHOWS THAT CONNECTION OF AN EXTENSION OF 3 0 0 9 SOUTH OF 78.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, COUNCIL AND FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY NOW KNOW IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET DOWN SOUTH IN SHIRTS, UH, TO RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY EVENT, THEY'VE, THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY GOT ONE WAY THEY HAVE TO GO TO PASS THROUGH ON FM 1518.

OBVIOUSLY WE SEE IT NOW AS PEOPLE DRIVE ON 1518 IN CONSTRUCTION, THAT SLOWS THAT DOWN.

UH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CONGESTION.

AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE COUNCIL APPROVED, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT SORT OF IS OUR GUIDE IN OUR DIRECTION, HOW WE'RE GONNA GROW.

AND IT WAS COMMENTED EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT OUR POPULATION WAS JUST A COUPLE OF DECADES AGO.

IT'S COMMENTED ABOUT THAT GROWTH THAT'S COMING.

UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S GROWTH THAT HAS GOOD AND BAD TO IT, RIGHT? A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL.

HOW DO WE KEEP THAT PART OF IT? THE EVENTS WE PUT ON AND WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL BIG ANNIVERSARY, WE DO IT UP BIG.

UM, PART OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT ARE MORE PLACES TO SHOP AND EAT.

UH, IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS OWNER, YOU WANT THAT POPULATION OF THE COMMUNITY TO GROW SO THAT YOUR CUSTOMER BASE EXPANDS WITH THAT.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP UP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AT TIMES LAGS AND THERE'S GOOD AND BAD TO IT.

AS I SAID, THE SIGNALIZATION OF FM 3 0 9, AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT OUT, YOU LOVE THAT.

THEY PUT A SIGNAL YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO PASS THROUGH, UH, IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC.

SO WITH THAT, YOU MAY RECALL, UH, MAYBE PREMATURELY THERE WAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT FUNDING FOR THAT, UH, GRADE SEPARATION HAD COME IN.

IT HASN'T ACTUALLY COME IN.

AND SO, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT BASED ON OUR PUSHING FOR THIS, UH, TO CREATE THAT GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING.

AND AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT 3.19, IT CAN'T GO STRAIGHT THROUGH THE WAY IT IS.

IT'S GOT A BEND AND VEER BECOMES PROBLEMATIC TO HAVE AN AT GRADE CROSSING OF TWO ROADS THAT DON'T WIND UP.

WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED CONGESTION THERE AND WONDERED WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.

THE OTHER PROBLEM WE'VE GOT IS WE'VE GOTTA GET OVER, UH, THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND AGAIN, TO HAVE IT FUNCTION EFFICIENTLY, UH, WE, WE REALLY WANT THAT TO GET OVER FM 78 AS WELL.

AND SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON IT.

AND AGAIN, WHAT TXDOT IS DOING IS THEY ARE SEEKING FUNDING SOURCES WHEREVER THEY CAN.

UH, AND WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEY LOOK TO THE COMMUNITIES AND THE FOLKS IMPACTED AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS, IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO HELP GET FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY, EVENTUALLY GET THAT PROJECT FULLY DESIGNED, UH, ANY RIGHT OF WAY ACQUIRED THAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR, AND THEN EVENTUALLY CONSTRUCTED.

UH, AGAIN, THESE THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG WITH THE CITY ENGINEER.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO PULL BECAUSE, UM, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.

I KNOW THE REST OF COUNCIL MAY BE, BUT AFTER TALKING TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF IT AND IT'S GONNA PUSH MORE TRAFFIC ONTO SHIRTS, PARKWAY, WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT WE SAW, YOU HAVE TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT AWAY A MILE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND COME BACK DOWN AND DROP.

AND I, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA.

IT IS LIKE, IT'S A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

PLUS WE HAVE ALL THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE BLOCKED OFF WHEN IT GOES UP.

SO WE'VE GOT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS ALL THE WAY DOWN IN THAT AREA, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THOSE BUSINESSES

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THAT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF 3 0 0 9, THAT'D BE AFFECTED.

WE KEEP SAYING WE'RE PRO BUSINESS AND WE WANNA DO THINGS FOR THE BUSINESS.

LIKE WE VOTED FOR THE FLAGS FOR THE BUSINESSES, NOW WE WANNA VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD PUT, POTENTIALLY PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS.

AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOICE ANY CONCERNS OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I MIGHT OFFER THIS IF THERE'S CONCERN AND WELL, I GUESS WE CAN SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES.

BUT IF THERE'S CONCERN, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE TECH DOT COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION OR THEIR ENGINEERS GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE, THE ROADWAY.

I'M, I'M NOT RECALLING IT EXACTLY THAT WAY.

UM, YEAH, SO I THINK, I THINK CERTAINLY WHAT WE CAN DO A COUPLE THINGS, RIGHT? WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE TECH DOT COME BACK AND, AND, UM, PROPOSE SOMETHING AGAIN.

OR THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO, CERTAINLY IF THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE BETTER OFF, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO A STUDY IF WE DON'T HAVE, UH, AN EXTENSION OF 3 0 0 9 SOUTH OF 78 AT ALL, OR IF WE DO A GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING OR, OR AN AT GRADE CROSSING AND WHAT THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC WOULD BE.

AND I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THOSE CONCERNS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS WHERE I SAID WHEN WE'VE GOT THIS, THERE, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO EVERYTHING WHENEVER WE WANT TO EXPAND A ROAD, RIGHT? WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT STEIN, RIGHT? AND OLD STEIN, THAT'S A MESS.

WE NEED TO GET IT, WE NEED TO GET IMPROVED.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO ON THE CHOIR RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT.

AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT AND DON'T LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY ON THIS IS THAT WHEN WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE AND STUDIED IT BEFORE, THE, THE BIG THING WE LOOKED AT WAS, WELL, WHAT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING? WHICH IS, WHICH IS AN OPTION, RIGHT? WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO EXTEND 3 0 9, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A GRADE SEPARATED.

AS I RECALL THOUGH, AND I HAVE THE DATA, BUT TRAFFIC SIGNIFICANTLY BECAME PROBLEMATIC.

AND I, I THINK THE CONCERN AT THE TIME WAS, IS WE DO A DISSERVICE TO A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES WHEN TRAFFIC GETS SO BAD BECAUSE THERE AREN'T WAYS TO GET THERE AND GO.

AND, AND SO I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN AGAIN.

SO ONE OPTION WE COULD DO IS WE COULD BRING TECH STOP BACK WHY THEY HAVE THE DESIGN THEY HAVE, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT CAUSES THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A BYPASS ROUTE OPEN AT GRADE, UH, GOING FORWARD OR, AND OR WE CAN DO A STUDY TO, TO ANALYZE WE'RE WE'RE DOING AN UPDATE OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

WE COULD PAUSE THAT AND WE COULD HAVE THEM DO AN ANALYSIS TO SAY, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH 3 0 0 9, WE JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT? RIGHT? AND THEN COUNCIL CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE TO, TO NOT DO ANYTHING TO, TO NOT HAVE THE EXTENSION, TO NOT PUSH FOR A GRADE SEPARATED.

AND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PREFER THE OTHER OPTION.

BUT AS I RECALL WHEN WE DEALT WITH THIS, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND THEN WE GET THOSE CALLS AND THOSE FRUSTRATIONS.

SO I CAN'T, I CAN'T MOVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, BUT, BUT THOSE, THOSE WE'RE HAPPY TO DO ANY RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT MAYBE JUST THE TIMING THAT TDOT CAN DO ON THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, I WOULD BE MAYBE THE PLACE TO START, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY TIME IT DURING THE PEAK HOURS.

JUST HAVING THAT INFORMATION TO US MAYBE, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT DO WORK FOR TDOT MM-HMM .

AND SAID THAT TIMING IS A LITTLE OFF AND IT COULD BE ADJUSTED.

MAYBE THAT MIGHT DO AN ISSUE.

I'VE LEFT MESSAGES WITH TDOT AND THEY DON'T RETURN MY CALLS, SO.

OKAY.

YEAH, LET US SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO T DOT AND, AND NOTE THAT T FOLKS ARE SAYING THAT THE SIGNALIZATION IS SOMEWHAT OFF AND, AND CAN BE ADJUSTED AND BE APPROVED.

AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD TXDOT REPS COME TO T SAC, UH, BEFORE AND SPEAK.

WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT.

SO YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, GO THAT DIRECTION AS WELL.

UH, MR. JAMES MM-HMM .

CAN, CAN THEY, CAN THEY CONFIRM, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING SITU, THE SITUATION'S GONNA BE THE WAY IT IS, HOWEVER, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, CAN THEY CONFIRM THAT, THAT THAT WILL ELIMINATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC? A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC? MOST OF THE TRAFFIC.

SO, SO, RIGHT.

SO AS I RECALL, WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY IS WE, WE DID A, A ROUGH BROAD ANALYSIS WITH THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE THAT LOOKED AT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AND 3 0 0 9 STOPS WHERE IT IS, WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT.

AND THEN THEY LOOKED AT WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF, UH, AN EXTENSION OF 3 0 0 9.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, GO TO OUR CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE HAVING WORK ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, DO AN AMENDMENT FOR THEM, AND WE CAN HAVE THEM LOOK AT, WELL, WHAT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING? WHAT IF WE DID AN AT GRADE EXTENSION OF 3 0 0 9?

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OR WHAT IF WE, UH, TRY TO PUSH FORWARD ON THE GRADE SEPARATED AND GET A FEEL FOR THE IMPACTS OF THAT ON AND, AND PRESENT AN UPDATE TO CITY COUNCIL? WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AGAIN, AS COUNCILMAN WATSON SAID, YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO TXDOT AND SAY, CAN YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE SIGNALIZATION AND THE TIMING? AND AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THIS ON SIGNALIZATION, THOSE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T EVER FIND, OH, HERE'S THE PERFECT THING AND YOU FOUND IT AND IT NEVER CHANGES.

YOU GO BACK, A TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGES AND GROW AND YOU HAVE TO ADJUST.

SO I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO STAY ON IT.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT ALL THREE OF THOSE OPTIONS AND THAT WAY COUNSEL CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, UM, ON, ON HOW YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS.

I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE THING THAT I, I DON'T THINK WE TOUCHED ON SO MUCH THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS IS ALSO NOT JUST FOR THE TRAFFIC, BUT FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THERE'S NO DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN NORTH OF 78 AND SOUTH OF 78 FROM 1604 TO SINE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES OR, OR ANY TRAFFIC TO GET ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS WHEN THERE'S A TRAIN.

SO THIS IS A LOCATION WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE, NOT IDEAL FOR EVERYONE, FOR EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS, BUT, UM, FEASIBLE AND, UM, AND REASONABLE.

YEAH.

BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF OPTIONS WE COULD CERTAINLY EXPLORE AND LOOK AT TO, TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE NEGATIVES WITH THINGS.

COUNCIL MEMBER, MEMBER WESTBROOK.

YES, MAYOR.

SO, UM, I SORT AM IN FAVOR OF GETTING TDOT TO GIVE US MORE INFORMATION, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU SEE YOU OFFERED, SO, SO WE WOULD DO IT.

I DOUBT TDOT'S GONNA DO A STUDY ON IT.

TDOT'S PROBABLY GONNA, I MEAN, I'M GONNA BE BLUNT, TEXAS'S GONNA SAY RIGHT.

THOUGHT WE WERE HEADED THIS DIRECTION.

SO YEAH, WE COULD CERTAINLY PAY OUR CONSULTANT TO DO THESE ANALYSES.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE EFFECT ON THE BUSINESSES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PRESENT THAT ONE.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, SO, SO I THINK WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HAYWARD JUST TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT, IS THAT THE, THE ISSUE YOU'VE GOT WHENEVER YOU CREATE A GRADE SEPARATION WHERE THERE'S NOT ONE IS THOSE BUSINESSES WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT STREET LEVEL THAT PEOPLE CAN TURN OFF THE ROAD AND IN THEY, THEY THEY, THEY CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S ALSO A VISIBILITY ISSUE THAT TYPICALLY COMES UP WHEN THEY START THAT, THAT INCREASE.

THEY'RE NOT SEEING THE BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.

SO THAT NEXT TIME THEY NEED A SERVICE, THEY MAY COME IN.

AND IN THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR, THE PROBLEM THAT TEXT DOT HAS IN PARTICULAR WITH, WITH UP THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS THEY, THEY CANNOT GET APPROVAL FOR THE GRADE SEPARATION AND MAINTAIN AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, AN ACT GRADE CROSSING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND SO IN PARTICULAR, THE BUSINESS, CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, AUTOMOTIVE AND THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY'RE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT ENTIRELY.

THEY ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY IT.

I WOULD SAY MORE PARTICULARLY THE THE LITTLE RETAIL CENTER THAN CHRISTIAN BROTHERS.

AND IN PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE WHEN I NEED, UM, CAR REPAIR SERVICES, I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING FOR CAR REPAIR SERVICES, I KNOW HOW TO GET THERE AND I GET THERE.

IT'S RARE THAT I'M DRIVING ALONG JUST LOOKING, GOING, I NEED TO MY CAR'S ON FIRE AND I NEED TO PULL IN SOMEPLACE.

RIGHT? BUT, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT.

UM, AND, AND SO THAT IS THE DRAWBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE MOST NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON.

AND TEXTILE SAID, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

NOW, AGAIN, I WOULD OFFER, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU MAKE A LEFT OUT OF CHRISTIAN BROTHERS EVER.

I I MEAN I, IT'S, I MEAN MAYBE IT'S EASY, MAYBE PEOPLE DO IT ALL THE TIME AND IT'S NOT TOO BAD AND IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND MAYBE IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE VERY EASY TO DO AS THE POPULATION GROWS.

UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, AS COUNCIL MAY RECALL, AT TIMES WE OCCASIONALLY HEAR FROM FOLKS, WE DON'T LIKE THIS SITUATION, WE DON'T LIKE THIS SITUATION.

AND THEN IRONICALLY, A FEW YEARS LATER, WE GET THEM COMING BACK AS THIS NATURAL CHANGE OCCURS THAT WILL, RIGHT, THIS TRAFFIC'S GONNA GROW AND THEY LAMENT WHY AM I EXPERIENCING THIS SITUATION? AND THEY FORGET IT'S BECAUSE THEY STOOD UP A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE AND SAID, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT HERE.

AND THAT I THINK IS REALLY THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? IT REALLY IS THIS THING OF, UM, WHAT DO WE DO? IDEALLY WE COULD FIND A WAY TO MAINTAIN A GRADE AT GRADE, HAVE THE GRADE SEPARATED AND DON'T, DON'T HAVE THOSE CHALLENGES.

TXDOT HAS SAID IT, THEY CANNOT GET APPROVAL AT THIS POINT.

NOW AGAIN, WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT AND I THINK STAFF HAS, WHEN WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO, TO MAKE THIS ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO NAIVELY GO FORWARD TO SAY YEAH, IMPLYING THAT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT CHANGE BECAUSE TXDOT HAS BEEN PRETTY CLEAR.

THEY DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL FROM UP TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT AT GRADE CROSSING, FRANKLY.

OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TIMM DAVIS.

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YEAH.

SO EVEN IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES JUST TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT SUBMIT A, A REQUEST FOR A POTENTIAL GRANT? YEAH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS, RIGHT? I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY TO, TO BE SORT OF BLUNT, I THINK WHEN I'VE HAD CONVERSATION WITH TXDOT, TXDOT STEPPED INTO THIS BECAUSE THE CITY OF SHIRT SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM, WE NEED YOUR HELP TDOT TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS AND GO THIS PATH.

AND THAT IF THE CITY OF SHE SAID, HEY LOOK, WE DON'T WANT THIS GRADE SEPARATED.

WE DON'T WANT AN EXTENSION OF 3 0 0 9.

I THINK LIKELY TDOT WOULD SAY, UH, OKAY THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO ELSEWHERE.

WE'RE THEY, THEY KIND OF WANT US AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE FUNDS OR WE'LL RECOMMEND THOSE FUNDING BE APPLIED TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS A TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.

I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN EARLY ON WHEN, WHEN THIS POLICY CHANGE HAPPENED AND STAFF STARTED HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, TECH STACK KINDA MADE CLEAR, YEAH, IF YOU GUYS WANT US TO COME IN AND DO THIS, WE'RE HAPPY ON YOUR BEHALF TO DO IT.

AND SO WE COULD CERTAINLY PULL OUT AT, AT SOME POINT GOING FORWARD.

SO I, I WOULD SAY THIS, THAT IF COUNSEL IS NOW OF THE POSITION THAT UNLESS WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE IMPLICATIONS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN I WOULD SAY, YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT AND, AND WE COME BACK FAIRLY SHORT ORDER BECAUSE RIGHT.

I I'M NOT SURE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES IF NO MATTER WHAT THAT STUDY SAYS, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A SOLUTION IF IT HAS ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND ANY SOLUTION WITHOUT A NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD OFFER TO YOU IS TO DO NOTHING.

I, I WOULD, AS A C MANAGER WOULD SAY, I WOULD BET YOU DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT YOU WILL HAVE FOLKS UP HERE, INCLUDING SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES OR FUTURE BUSINESSES SAYING THIS SITUATION IS A PROBLEM FOR US.

TRAFFIC BACKS UP SO MUCH.

AND, AND AGAIN, IF WE HAVE AN INCIDENT WHERE WE CAN'T MOVE FROM SOUTH SOUTHERN SHIRTS TO NORTHERN SHIRTS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WHY DID WE NOT MAKE THESE DECISIONS? AND, AND I THINK THE, THE OTHER THING I'LL OFFER IS IF, IF YOU LOOK AROUND SAN ANTONIO IS A GOOD EXAMPLE AND YOU SEE WHERE THEY MADE DECISIONS FOR THE REASONS THEY MADE THEM AT THE TIME OR WITH THE INFORMATION THEY HAD, BUT SUBSEQUENTLY PROVED PROBLEMATIC WHERE THAT CREATES CHALLENGES, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT FOUR 10 AND SAN PEDRO IN SAN ANTONIO FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S, THAT'S A MESS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE FREEWAY SYSTEM.

YOU THEN HAVE 2 81 BEND AROUND WHERE YOU HAVE 2 81 AS IT AS IT COMES THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HILDEBRAND BY TRINITY UNIVERSITY AND INCARNATE WORD AND THE ROAD, THE, THE FREEWAY CURVES THE WAY IT DOES, THERE'S ALWAYS A BACKUP OF TRAFFIC THERE.

IT ALWAYS BACKS UP AND IT BACKS UP BECAUSE OF THAT S PATTERN TO TRY TO FIT THROUGH WHERE THEY NEEDED TO FIT IT THROUGH.

AND SO YOU HAVE THE CONGESTION YOU WOULD HAVE.

SO MY ANSWER WOULD BE, YEAH, TEXT.TO COUNCILMAN DAVIS, IF WE PULLED OUT AT SOME POINT, THAT'S FINE, THIS DOESN'T SET THAT STAGE.

BUT IF THERE IS A STRONG FEELING WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS SOME NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES, THEN, THEN I'D SAY, YOU PROBABLY WANNA RETHINK THIS.

'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOME NEGATIVE, IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST.

I WOULD ONLY OFFER TO DO NOTHING I THINK HAS VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? SO WHEN OUR POPULATION GOES FROM 45,000 TO 65,000 WHEN S'S POPULATION DOUBLES, RIGHT? AS THE AREA GROWS, WHAT ARE THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS OF SHORTZ PARKWAY AND 78 AND FM 3 0 0 9 AND 78 GONNA LOOK LIKE? AND AND HOW MUCH IS THAT BACKUP GONNA BE? AND IF YOU SAY, WELL WE NEED TO EXPAND WIDEN 78, RIGHT? I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE GONNA ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE YOU GOT THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GO ONE WAY.

YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THE OTHER SIDE AND THAT'S GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT BUSINESSES.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW EXPANDING 70 EIGHT'S REALLY AN OPTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, I DID IT ON ASPECT OF BUSINESS, BUT I WAS OUT TO DINNER ON FRIDAY.

MM-HMM .

AND RESIDENTS SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA MM-HMM .

AND IT WASN'T JUST BUSINESSES THAT WERE HAVING ISSUES, IT WAS RESIDENTS THAT WERE HAVING ISSUES AND SAID THEY WOULD NOT EVEN USE IT.

THEY WOULD JUST GO TO CHURCHS PARKWAY TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO.

SO THEN WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM BY DOING A FLYOVER FOR 3 0 0 9 AND IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY, I'M JUST NOT GONNA DO THAT 'CAUSE IT'S AND EXTRA AND I DON'T WANNA DO THAT, AND THEN WE'D THROW MORE TRAFFIC ON THE CHURCHS PARKWAY, DID WE REALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHEN I'M SITTING AT DINNER AND

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SOMEONE STARTS TALKING TO ME AND I'M TRYING TO ENJOY DINNER? UM, YEAH, NO, NO, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

RIGHT? THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS WHO, WHO WOULD SIT THERE AND SAY, THIS ISN'T RIGHT, I WOULDN'T DO THIS.

AND, AND THAT CERTAINLY MAY BE THE CASE, RIGHT? AND, AND SO AGAIN, IF I WERE AT DINNER AND SOMEBODY WALKED UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THIS FLYOVER, I WOULDN'T DO THAT.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS, SO HOW LONG WOULD YOU WAIT AT SHIRTZ PARKWAY IN 78 TO, TO MAKE THAT TURN? RIGHT? AND, AND THEIR ANSWER MIGHT BE, WELL, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I TYPICALLY DON'T WAIT MORE THAN TWO OR THREE CYCLES.

RIGHT.

AND THAT, OKAY, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT IN 20 YEARS OR IN 50 YEARS, HOW MANY CYCLES ARE YOU GONNA SIT THROUGH? AND THAT PERSON MAY SAY, WELL I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE.

WHAT, WHAT DO I KIND OF CARE? RIGHT? BUT, BUT THAT LITERALLY IS THE ISSUE.

SO FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN IN THE AREA AND YOU'VE SEEN WHAT THIS WAS AND WHAT THE GROWTH IS, THAT WOULD BE THE THING THAT I WOULD SAY, RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU WANT TO COME THROUGH NOW AND YOU WANT TO GO FROM 35 TO 10, YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT ON 1518.

AND IF 3 9 9 DOESN'T EXTEND, EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO DO THAT IS GONNA BE SITTING WITH THIS RESIDENT YOU SPOKE TO AT DINNER WAITING TO, TO CROSS.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WE THINK ABOUT THINGS TODAY AND SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED THIS.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, HOW MUCH DID WE HEAR ABOUT OLD STEIN BEING A PROBLEM 15 YEARS AGO? NOT, NOT TOO OFTEN.

HOW OFTEN DO WE HEAR ABOUT IT NOW WE HEAR ABOUT IT A LOT.

RIGHT? BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND STEIN WITHOUT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING SOMEBODY BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA GET RIGHT AWAY FOR IT.

RIGHT? AND SO IF THAT'S THE CONCERN, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT AND UNDERSTAND THAT'S A POLICY QUESTION FOR COUNCIL, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, I'M SENSITIVE TO WHAT ALLISON SAID ABOUT THE BUSINESSES.

I THINK THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE A CONCERN.

MM-HMM .

BUT DOING NOTHING IS NOT THE ANSWER.

IT IS A, A, A BAD SITUATION ALREADY.

UH, IF JUST IN THE 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN OUT HERE, IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND ON 3 0 9, YOU'RE TAKING A LEFT ON 78, IT IT, IT CAN BE FOUR CYCLES BEFORE YOU MAKE IT THROUGH.

SO I, IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO GET WORSE.

AND THE, I DON'T SEE HOW THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVEN THE SPACE TO HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE 'CAUSE YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST DOUBLE, DOUBLE TURN LANES TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DECREASE THAT.

BUT I, I THINK DOING NOTHING IS NOT THE ANSWER.

I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED IS, IS THE BEST, OBVIOUSLY IT IS GONNA IMPACT THOSE BUSINESSES, BUT I THINK JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT IT'S GONNA BE IMPACTING THEM EITHER WAY BECAUSE JUST AS PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO AVOID THAT, THEY'RE PROBABLY AVOIDING THAT NOW AND GOING TO SHEZ PARKWAY.

SO JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT THROUGH THOSE TURN CYCLES.

SO I THINK THAT REALISTICALLY, I MEAN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS 10, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT IT NOW.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A KEY, KEY PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BYPASS SO WE CAN CONTINUE SOUTH AND FOR SAFE PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS.

SO, UH, I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UH, SUPPORTING THAT LETTER.

OKAY.

I HAVE A CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

OH, LEMME TURN THAT BACK ON.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WHAT IS THE REALISTIC TIMELINE FOR SAY, FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION? I MEAN, ARE WE LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE DONE SAY IN TWO YEARS? NO, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS.

SO SO IT WON'T BE DONE IN TWO YEARS, RIGHT? RIGHT.

A A YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL BE SAYING, OH, OUR FIRE STATION'S COMING ALONG.

IT'S ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST DONE.

THERE ISN'T FUNDING FOR THIS YET.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THERE'S FUNDING, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A TWO, THREE YEAR PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION MAYBE IS IS PROBABLY WHAT IT IS.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS THERE ISN'T FUNDING FOR THIS.

IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, UM, A PROJECT.

AND SO AGAIN, I, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT TOMORROW WE WON'T GET SOMETHING THAT SAYS, OH MY GOSH, LOOK, THERE'S, THERE'S FUNDING FOR IT.

SO IF IT'S, IF IT, AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS LIKE A LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS EVERY TWO YEARS OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS CONSIDERED AN AM OS PROBABLY CYCLE EVERY YEAR.

BUT SO WE'RE LOOKING, I IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EVEN FAST TRACK THIS IS SEVEN YEARS

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OUT.

OH, VERY.

YEAH.

QUITE POSSIBLE.

SO CONCEIVABLY 12 YEARS OUT.

SO CONSIDERING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LOOK LIKE 12 YEARS FROM NOW, IT, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS IS ABOUT HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE IS 12 YEARS OPEN IT UP.

I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK STEPH'S BIG CONCERN INITIALLY WAS PRESERVING A CORRIDOR TO EVEN HAVE THIS THING BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH.

RIGHT.

AND SO I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT WOULD BE IF WE TELL TDOT NOW THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT IT, HOW LIKELY ARE WE TO GET THEM TO PICK IT UP IN THE FUTURE, SAY A YEAR FROM NOW? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S LESSONS LEARNED FROM LIKE 1103 AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT REALLY KIND OF GOT SHELVED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO, SO I, I THINK, I MEAN I'M BE BLUNT GIVING YOU MY OPINION MM-HMM .

IT WOULD BE A GENERATION OF T DOT EMPLOYEES BEFORE THEY PICKED IT UP, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS, THIS ISSUE CAME UP 15, 20 YEARS AGO OR SO WHERE T DOT SAID, HEY, WE GOT THIS 3 0 0 9 EXTENSION, RIGHT? AND AT THE TIME, I THINK FOR THE SAME REASONS COUNSEL SAID, THIS ISN'T NEEDED, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE, RIGHT.

AND AT THE TIME, OUR PLAN WAS ALL OF THAT STUFF DOWN SOUTH THAT WAS GONNA BE FARMLAND, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHY DO WE NEED THIS SECOND ROUTE? AND SO WE TOLD TSOP THANKS, BUT YOU CAN GO ON YOUR WAY.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

NOW WHEN WE UPDATED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND WE SAID, OH MY GOSH, LOOK WHAT PROBLEM WE HAVE AS WELL AS THE 98 FLOOD AND THE POSSIBILITY, I, I THINK EVERYBODY SAID, YEAH, WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS THING CAME ON.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I I WILL JUST SAY THIS, JUST FOR CLARITY, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CHALLENGE WE HAVE IN MAKING THIS CONNECTION OF 3 0 0 9.

WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WHERE REDBUD PARKWAY HAS BEEN BUILT, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE NAME OF IT.

AND, AND SCHAFFER IT IS A MM-HMM IT IS A CHALLENGE TO GET THROUGH THERE.

AND SO WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH THAT.

UM, SO, SO IF WE DO THIS PRI THIS IS A A HUNDRED AND I THINK IT WAS 130 OR $40 MILLION PROJECT OR MAYBE EVEN MORE IS WHAT IT WAS IN THE FUNDING QUEUE FOR, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WAY THIS, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE CONSIDERING THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE, AND THE, THE COST TO DO THE PROJECT AND THE, THE EXTENSION OF RED, BUT, OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT, ALL THE WAY DOWN.

I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING IN A COUPLE OF $200 MILLION RANGE.

I THINK BY THE TIME EVERYTHING'S BUILT, THERE'S A BIG IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY, ASIDE FROM THE CONGESTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE MOVEMENT AND THE POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE COULD EVEN CONSIDER SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF DOING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR RELOCATING SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES IF THEY ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED AND THEY COULD RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF, OF BEING IN A BETTER SPOT WITH HIGH TRAFFIC AND THE YEAH, THE, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT LOSS ON OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE MUCH LESS.

I MEAN, AND, AND I THINK THERE, AND IT'S, LEMME SAY STAFF CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS MM-HMM .

FROM THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL, TRY TO PUSH FOR A SOLUTION THAT IMPACTS FOLKS THE LEAST.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS STRING PEOPLE ALONG AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA PUSH FOR YOU.

WE'RE GONNA FIGHT FOR YOU.

WE'RE GONNA, WHEN WHEN I WANT TO BE MORE REALISTIC AND SAY, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.

RIGHT? BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, WHAT DOES THE WORLD LOOK LIKE IN 12 YEARS OR 10 YEARS? AND, AND WHAT SOLUTIONS DO WE HAVE? BECAUSE AGAIN, I I'M, I'M SORT OF A FIRM BELIEVER THAT IF WE'RE STILL SITTING HERE IN 12 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU MAKE A LEFT INTO THOSE BUSINESSES OR HOW YOU MAKE A LEFT OUT OF THOSE BUSINESSES.

AND THEN WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THAT? IRONICALLY, MAYBE THEY SHIFT AND START DOING AUTOBODY WORK FOR ALL THE CRASHES THAT HAPPEN WHEN CARS ARE TRYING TO MAKE THOSE TURNS.

BUT I THINK WE JUST UNDERAPPRECIATE WHAT THAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE RIGHT THERE.

YOU YOU HEAR STORIES AND STORIES OF HOW CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES WITH THAT PUTS PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS.

WELL, THE SAME THING HAPPENS.

AND, AND I THINK YOUR POINT WHEN YOU START AVOIDING INTERSECTIONS AND AS YOU SAID, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IF YOU DRIVE 78 3 0 9 CHURCHS PARKWAY IN THE MORNING RUSH HOUR, PEAK TIME AND IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK TIME, IT IS A, IT IS A MESS ALREADY.

AGAIN, GRADE SEPARATIONS WE UNDERSTAND IS NOT AN OPTION AT 1518 BECAUSE OF THE FLIGHT PATH OF JBSA RANDOLPH.

AND SO TO YOUR POINT, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO LOOK, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE SPOT, DOESN'T MEAN SOMETHING DIDN'T COME WITH ANYTHING ELSE, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST A CHALLENGE.

AGAIN, DON'T, DON'T MEAN TO NOT SOUND EMPATHETIC, I CERTAINLY AM WE'LL PUSH FOR IT, BUT WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED THAT WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR COMMUNITY DOWN THE ROAD.

AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA COME BACK, AS KATHY POINTED OUT, WE LITERALLY HAVE ONE WAY TO GET BETWEEN CENTRAL SHIRTS IN SOUTHERN SHIRTS.

AND, AND

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EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH 1518, THEY HAD TO NECK IT DOWN AND NARROW IT DOWN TO DEAL WITH JBSA.

AND SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE QUITE THE EFFICIENCIES WE HAD INITIALLY HOPED THERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO, MR. JAMES, YOU WERE SAYING THAT, UH, THE PROJECT FROM START TO FINISH, BALLPARK FIGURE SEVEN YEARS.

WELL, NO, I'M, I, SO WHO I, I HAVE NO IDEA.

I, I WOULD, THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO TAKE A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CONSTRUCTION'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY, BUT THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND, AND WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT'LL, THAT'LL RISE TO THE LEVEL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S A REALLY EXPENSIVE PROJECT AND WE'RE ALL COMPETING FOR THE SAME POTS OF MONEY.

SLO SELMA, EVERYBODY OUT THERE IS, IS SCRAMBLING BERNIE, RIGHT? OR ARE ALL AT THE SAME POTS.

SO I, I CAN'T TELL YOU, I THINK TO STEVE'S POINT, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING THIS THING IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR SURE.

I I, I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT 10 EVEN, I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT 20 MAYBE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, WHO KNOWS BALLPARK FIGURE, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE OUR POPULATION IN 10 YEARS? SO IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN 10 YEARS, ASSUMING WE'RE, WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 10,000 PEOPLE A YEAR, RIGHT? SO IN, IN 10 YEARS WE'RE PROBABLY 52,000, 53,000.

BUT HERE'S THE THING I WOULD SAY IN THIS, I THINK WE STRUGGLE TO GET FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S OUR POPULATION.

BUT WHAT IS THE POPULATION OF SLO BY THAT TIME.

WHAT'S THE POPULATION OF MARION BY THAT TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THIS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC, WE THINK ABOUT SHIRTS, RESIDENTS AND SHIRTS PEOPLE.

BUT LOOK AT ALL THE FOLKS.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO SINE, HOW DO YOU ALL GO? I, I GO DOWN 78, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I GO.

SO YOU GOT ALL THIS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC.

SO, SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INCREASES IN TRAFFIC BASED ON THIS LARGER GROWTH IN THE AREA.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY THING.

NOT JUST THE SHORTS POPULATION, BUT WE'RE GOING 750, 800 PEOPLE A YEAR TYPICALLY.

SO 10 YEARS, WE'RE GOING 70 508,000 PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD.

SO I GET THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT WHAT IF THEY, COULD IT POSSIBLY BE WHERE IT'S A FLYOVER AND THEN MAYBE LIKE A, A TURNAROUND OR TURNABOUT UNDERNEATH SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE BUSINESS, THEY DON'T GO OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK.

THEY CAN GET TO THE LITTLE BUSINESSES OVER HERE AND THEN IT'S A SAC, A CUL-DE-SAC UNDERNEATH TO SWING THOSE PEOPLE BACK SO THAT THEY CAN WHAT THE LAYOUT THAT WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, THAT I DIDN'T SEE THAT LAYOUT.

SO THE LATEST LAYOUT I'VE SEEN, AND THIS IS REALLY BAD, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE THE WAY 3 0 9 GOES TODAY, AT SOME POINT, WELL BEFORE IT HITS 78 KIND OF BY WHERE THE SPECS IS COMING IN OR RIGHT PAST THE TEXAS MED, THE ROAD IS PROPOSED TO VEER OFF TO THE LEFT.

IF YOU'RE HEADING TOWARDS 78 AT THAT POINT, THERE'LL BE KIND OF AN INTERSECTION THERE THAT YOU CAN MAKE A RIGHT ON AND YOU CAN GET TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND THEN TURN AROUND AND COME BACK OUT.

OKAY.

SO WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, THAT'S NOT HOW THE PLAN WAS.

IT WAS JUST NOT GOING TO GIVE US THAT.

YES, IT DID LANE, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THE PHOTOS THAT WE HAD LIKE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND I'M SORRY, REMIND ME AGAIN 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT GIVING IMPRESSION.

SO WHEN, WHEN I REMEMBER SEEING IT, IT WAS GOING TO WHERE THE STORAGE CENTER IS, IT WAS GONNA COME BACK BY THE BORG FILL AND THEY WERE GONNA PICK IT UP FROM THERE AND THEN TARGET IT OVER THE STORAGE FACILITY AND THEN SW GO OUT AND THEN SWINGING BACK AROUND.

IT DIDN'T SHOW A LANE THAT COULD GO TO THE SIDE WHERE THOSE ES ARE.

THEY DIDN'T SHOW THAT THEY COULD DO THAT.

YEAH.

SO UNLESS THEY CHANGED, BRIAN, TAKE A STAB AT CLARIFYING.

SO AS YOU'RE HEADING SOUTH ON 3 0 0 9 MM-HMM .

AS IT EXISTS NOW, IT DEAD ENDS INTO 78, RIGHT? THAT SECTION OF ROAD WOULD STILL BE THERE.

THEY WOULD LEAVE THAT INTACT.

THEY WOULD JUST SWERVE OFF THE NEW ROAD TO THE EAST SIDE OF 3 0 0 9 THROUGH WHERE THE OLD LANDFILL IS, OR RIGHT BY THERE OVER THE STORAGE FACILITY ACROSS, AND THEN LOOP AROUND ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY PURCHASED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HANDLES.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, IT'S CALLED A JUG HANDLE TURNAROUND.

IT WOULD GO OVER AND JUG HANDLE TURNAROUND AND FACE NORTH, TERMINATE NORTH INTO, RIGHT INTO 78, 78 8.

AND YOU, YOU'LL REMEMBER THE CITY BOUGHT THAT 40 ACRES OVER THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE TO HAVE THAT DO THAT.

SO THE, THE OLD 3 0 0 9 THAT WILL DEAD END AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS NOW STILL

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STAYS THERE.

AND I THINK THEY HAD A, I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING THE TURNAROUND AND THE, THE FIRST PLANS THAT I SAW MAYBE.

YEAH, I THINK WHERE WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH ON THIS FOR, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IS, UM, LET ME PULL IT UP OR GOOGLE MAPS, I'LL SHOW YOU.

YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT THE HOPE WAS THAT YOU COULD CONTINUE AT GRADE AND MAKE A RIGHT ON 78 AND THAT'S WHERE THE PLAN SAID, NO, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND IT'S GOTTA END THERE.

BUT YEAH, THEY'VE GOTTA PROVIDE A TURNAROUND, UM, FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE WHEN WE SAW IT AND THEY HAD ALL THE BILLBOARDS THERE AND WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT.

YEAH.

SO AS, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WHAT WHAT'S PROPOSED TO HAPPEN IS THAT SOME POINT RIGHT HERE, 3 0 0 9 VEERS OFF AND COMES OVER, CROSSES THIS.

THE IDEA IS DOING A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO KEEP OPERATING THERE RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT COVERED, RIGHT? AND IT DROPS DOWN HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SORT OF A JUG HANDLE THAT COMES AND ALLOWS YOU TO, TO, TO MAKE THE TURN.

BUT THAT THIS SECTION OF ROAD OR SECTION OF IT WOULD COME UP LIKE THIS AT SOME POINT, TURN IN HERE, CONNECT TO THAT NEW SECTION OF ROAD BEFORE IT ELEVATES AND, AND GRADE SEPARATES.

AND SO WHAT FOLKS WOULD DO IS THEY'D COME DOWN THIS WAY, THEY COULD MAKE THAT RIGHT NOW, COME DOWN TO HERE, GO TO THESE BUSINESSES, AND THEN THEY'D HAVE TO GO BACK UP AND, AND GET HERE AND GET OUT.

AND, AND SO THE BIG DRAWBACK I HEARD IS, DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS NO LONGER CONTINUED, BUT THAT CUL-DE-SAC HERE, UM, WAS THE BIG PROBLEM.

AND I, I GET IT.

I AND STAFF IS GONNA KEEP PUSHING FOR THAT, RIGHT? BUT TEXTILE WAS NOT OPTIMISTIC.

IT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK AS STEVE SAID, WHAT'S THE WORLD GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN THIS THING HAPPENS? WHAT ARE OUR SOLUTIONS AT THAT POINT? RIGHT? I THINK PART OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE CASES THAT I'VE SEEN IS YOU HAVE, PART OF WHAT OCCURS IS SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES MAY CHANGE, RIGHT? THE BUSINESS THAT RELIES ON A LOT OF DRIVE BY VISIBILITY, IT'S NOT GONNA DO AS WELL 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE IT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK.

I, I TEND, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AN AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP, I KNOW WHERE I'M GONNA TAKE MY CAR, RIGHT? UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY, YOU'LL LOOK UP WHERE DO I GO? YOU FIND OUT WHERE IT IS.

OFTEN THEY'RE IN A PLACE THAT'S NOT QUITE AS VISIBLE, RIGHT? BUT YOU NOW WITH YOUR PHONE, THEY'RE EASY TO, TO FIND, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BACK IN THE DAYS WHERE I'M PULLING OUT A PAPER MAP, RIGHT? WE LOOK UP AUTO AND IT TELLS US AND WE GET THERE AND, AND SO YEAH, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, SMOKE, SMOKE TO CBD AND VAPE SHOP 14 THAT MAY BE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY BY THE LACK OF THE PASS BY TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE THEY GO, THIS LOCATION'S NOT AS GOOD AS IT WAS.

'CAUSE I, I DON'T HAVE THAT DRIVE BY.

UM, I'M JUST SOMEWHAT SKEPTICAL THAT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IS IMPACTED THE SAME WAY, BUT I DON'T OWN CHRISTIAN BROTHERS.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER WESTROCK.

YEP.

SO MAYOR, JUST SO I CAN CLARIFY, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE? BECAUSE WE STARTED OFF WITH A, A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

NOW WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND, AND I THINK IT'S RELATED.

WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF TDOT'S REQUEST FOR A FUNDING SOURCE TO HELP BRING THIS PROJECT ABOUT.

AND I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION THAT IF WE'RE NOT SURE WE WANT THIS PROJECT, THEN WHY WOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? I THINK AS COUNCILMAN DAVIS SAID, DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T PULL BACK DOWN THE ROAD.

SO IT'S REALLY TO HELP GET FUNDING FOR THIS TO TRY TO MAKE IT THROUGH FRUITION.

BUT IT'S MY IMPRESSION THIS IS NOT FULL FUNDING OF THE PROJECT BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

CAN SOME OF THE ISSUES, IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION AND GET THE LETTER OF SUPPORT, CAN SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES LIKE, UH, FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THE BUSINESSES BE RESOLVED IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? YEAH, I THINK CERTAINLY SAYING I WOULD SAY THIS, RIGHT? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT WE STAFF CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AS THIS THING MOVES FORWARD, THAT OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP A LAYOUT THAT IMPACTS THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, UM, AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE NEGATIVELY.

AND WE WILL KEEP PUSHING FOR THAT.

AND THEN AS THIS THING STARTS TO COME TO FRUITION AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO ME, THAT'S WHERE OUR TIME IS WELL SPENT SAYING, ALL RIGHT, NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT YEAR IT IS, IT'S NOW 20 WHATEVER, 20, 35, 20 40, RIGHT? IT, IT, WHO KNOWS? MAYBE IT'S 2028.

WE SAY, WHAT'S THINGS LOOK LIKE NOW AND WHAT ARE THOSE TOOLS THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN PLACE TO, TO FIX IT? I THINK, I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF DOING THAT THAN COMING UP WITH SOMETHING NOW THAT WON'T MAKE SENSE DOWN THE ROAD.

MAYOR, CAN WE GET CALL THE QUESTION? THIS

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IS YES.

UM, I I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ENOUGH THAT WE KIND OF, I FEEL HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO VOTE, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD OR TO EITHER MOVE IT TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER MEETING IF WE NEED MORE INFORMATION GOING FORWARD.

SO, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 26 R DASH ZERO EIGHT.

SO MOVE SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM DAVIS.

A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATSON.

CAN I GET EVERYBODY TO CAST VOTES? OKAY.

WE HAVE FIVE YAYS, ONE NAYS.

UH, CAN I GET THE VOTES PUBLISHED PLEASE? OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

UH,

[7. Resolution 26-R-010 - Authorizing a service and maintenance agreement with Honeywell for Public Safety station-alerting services (B.James/D.Hardin/J.Bluebird)]

MOVING ON TO ACTION ITEM SEVEN, RESOLUTION 26 R DASH 0 1 0 AUTHORIZING A SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH HONEYWELL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY STATION ALERTING SERVICES.

UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, UH, MR. BIRD, BLUEBIRD, COUNCIL, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGEMENT? THIS RESOLUTION IS TO GET INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE FOR OUR STATION ALERTING SYSTEM.

IT IS FOR THE FOUR STATIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING THE FOURTH FIRE STATION COMING UP NEXT YEAR.

IT IS, UH, FOR A ONE YEAR TERM WITH THE OPTION TO RE RENEW FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL YEARS AFTER THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

DO I HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YES.

HOW HOW MANY YEARS DID YOU SAY THAT WAS? THIS IS FOR A ONE YEAR WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL TERMS. GOTCHA.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

BASE HERE.

FOUR YEAR OPTION.

OKAY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MACALUSO, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MACALUSO, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, CAN I GET EVERYBODY TO CASH THE VOTES? CAN I GET THE VOTES PUBLISHED HAVING SIX YAYS, NO NAYS.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY, YOU'RE MOVING ON

[8. Discuss Action Plan for ICSC 2026 in Las Vegas (S.Williams/S.Wayman)]

TO ITEM EIGHT.

UH, DISCUSS ACTION PLAN FOR ICSC 2026 IN LAS VEGAS.

GOT THIS ONE, MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND THIS IS MORE OF JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AND I, I, I'VE PUT SOME BACKGROUND IN THE, IN THE, UH, PACKET HERE IN THE STAFF MEMO, BUT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THAT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE CITY HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL OF SHOPPING CENTERS.

IT'S THE ICSC CONFERENCE IN LAS VEGAS, AND IT IS THE LARGEST RETAIL CONFERENCE IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES WHERE ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, DECISION MAKERS, IN FACT, THAT ARE THERE REPRESENTING THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME SESSIONS THAT, THAT DISCUSS KIND OF THE FRONT END OF, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT INDUSTRY.

IT'S EXTREMELY VALUABLE FOR A CITY LIKE US TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

AND IN EFFECT, WE'RE GOING THERE TO TRY AND GET RETAIL TO COME TO TOWN.

WE HAVE DONE IT FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW.

THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW TO DO IT.

AND WE, WE'VE KIND OF HAD VARYING DEGREES OF SUCCESS THE FIRST YEAR, SOMEWHAT BEING AMATEURS, US NOT HAVING GONE BEFORE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A STRATEGY, BUT WE DID MAKE SOME, SOME HEADWAY IN TERMS OF LEARNING THE LANDSCAPE AND, AND, AND LOOKING HOW TO PROCEED THERE.

THE NEXT YEAR WE WENT WITH A LITTLE BIT LARGER TEAM AND GOT A BOOTH ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION, UH, SOME OTHER CITIES, FRANKLY, IN THE GREATER SATX AREA.

UH, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE DIDN'T, WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE AS MANY CONTACTS LAST YEAR.

WHAT WE DID IS WE SLIMMED DOWN THE TEAM TO FOUR PEOPLE AND IT WAS THE, IT WAS SCOTT, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND AMY THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND THE MAYOR, MAYOR GUTIERREZ, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.

AND MYSELF, WE WENT AS A TEAM AND WE BROKE UP AND WE WERE ABLE TO HIT MEETINGS ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE LAS VEGAS CONVENTION CENTER, IT'S,

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I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET.

I THINK WE WATCHED MULTIPLE, WALKED A BUNCH OF MILES AND HAD A BUNCH OF MEETINGS.

WE HAD OVER 16 MEETINGS IN TWO AND A HALF DAYS.

WE, WHICH WAS EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER AND MORE EFFECTIVE THAN WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT IN THE PAST.

AND WE, WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS THAT THAT CARRIED ON.

EVEN WHEN WE GOT BACK TO, TO SHIRTS, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON AND THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE HELPED CLOSE SOME DEALS THAT WERE PENDING FOR SHIRT STATION AS WELL AS GENERATE SOME NEW, UH, NEW POSSIBILITIES AND LEADS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY STILL WORKING ON.

SO THE INTENT TO NOT, WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE MODEL THAT, THAT KIND OF SEEK AND DESTROY MODEL, SMALL TEAM MEETING AND GETTING, UM, GETTING AS MANY MEETINGS IN AS WE CAN AND, AND MAXIMIZING OUR TIME THIS YEAR.

THERE'S BEEN SOME INTEREST BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO GO.

UH, AND SO I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF THE COUNCIL, IF THERE ARE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GOING, WE CAN, WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE STAY WITH THE SAME STRATEGY, BUT THEN MAYBE WE CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE SOME OF THE TEAM CAN GO TO THE SESSIONS BECAUSE THAT IS VALUABLE INFORMATION AND IT IS, IT, IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE FOR THE COUNCIL AND, AND I'LL PUT COUNCIL, UH, WOMAN WATSON ON THE SPOT.

SHE WAS THE ONE WHO REQUESTED TO GO BE PART OF THE TEAM.

SO I, I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS OTHER INTEREST FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN TERMS OF GOING, AND IT IS IN MAY, MAY, SCOTT, MAY 20TH, 18TH TO 20 18TH THROUGH 20TH.

YES.

SO, UM, AND I WILL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE, MAYOR FOR THE COUNCIL, SEE IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION, UH, AMONGST COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND? UH, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

UH, MR. WILLIAMS, YOU SAID THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS LIKE MINOR, VERY LITTLE SUCCESS.

SECOND YEAR ABOUT THE SAME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

THIRD YEAR IT WAS MUCH SUCCESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I, I THINK WE WERE MORE SUCCESSFUL.

YEAH.

I MEAN, GAUGING BY THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND THE EFFECTIVENESS IN THOSE MEETINGS, I, I FEEL LIKE THE LAST YEAR WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE.

YES.

WE WENT TO 16 MEETINGS IN TWO DAYS EFFECTIVELY.

SO, SO THE PROGRAM IS INCREASING IS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ACCORDING TO THE TRACK RECORD, NOT THE PROGRAM.

THE PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM IS THE SAME.

IT'S JUST HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET AND HAVE THOSE QUALITY DISCUSSIONS HAS GOTTEN BETTER.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE MORE PEOPLE GO, I JUST SUGGEST WE RETHINK OUR STRATEGY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE PARTS THAT WORK ARE WORKING WELL FOR US AND WE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO GAIN, GAIN VALUE FROM THE CONFERENCE.

MAYOR PROAM DAVIS AND THERE'S A REGIONAL ONE IN SAN ANTONIO, FEBRUARY 17TH, 18TH.

ARE WE GOING TO THAT? I BELIEVE WE ARE, YES.

YES, SIR.

AND, AND IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE CLOSER TO HOME TO, TO MEET WITH THEM AS WELL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ANY OTHER MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND? OKAY, YOU'RE IT COUNSEL.

OKAY.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT IF A HIGHER AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS WENT THAT IT, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE YOU KNOW, BOG DOWN THE EFFORTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE QUESTION, IS IT WORTH THE EXPENSE? SO I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO JUST BE A, AN EVALUATION IF, IF WE HAD MORE PEOPLE, IS THAT GONNA HURT, HURT OUR CHANCES? I MEAN, OR HURT OUR, UH, ACTIVITIES OR WOULD THAT HELP? YEAH, I MIGHT, I MIGHT KICK THIS TO SCOTT AS WELL, BUT I, IN MY OPINION, I THINK, AND SCOTT CAN MAYBE DESCRIBE THE WAY THE BOOTHS ARE LAID OUT.

IT, IT'S PRETTY PACKED WITH PEOPLE AND YOU MAYBE HAVE ROOM FOR A, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TO SIT AND TALK TO THAT DEVELOPER OR THAT RETAILER.

AND IT DOES, IT REQUIRES A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AS WELL AND KNOWLEDGE.

THAT'S WHY STAFF IS THERE BECAUSE THEY, IT, IT IS A, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD AND IF YOU'RE NOT READY FOR IT, I MEAN THINGS MOVE QUICKLY AND THEY'RE EXPECTING IT TO MOVE QUICKLY AS WELL.

THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING TO.

SO SKY, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS WHEN YOU GET THERE, EVERYBODY, THERE'S JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF BOOTHS AND IT'S THE LARGEST RETAIL CON CONVENTION IN THE WORLD AND THOSE BOOTHS ARE JUST JAM PACKED WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THE FACETIME WITH THE TEXAS REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S WORKING THAT BOOTH FOR THAT COMPANY.

SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY MORE OR LESS MAKE A PEST OF YOURSELF

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AND TRY TO LINGER IN THAT AREA.

AND IT'S EASIER FOR ONE PERSON TO KIND OF LINGER IN THE AREA AND KIND OF WORK ITS WAY IN THAN IT IS FOR A GROUP OF FOUR.

AND THIS WILL BE MY 26TH ICSC.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY OF LIVE OAK IN THE PAST AND WE'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE GO AND THE, THE MOST, MAYBE THE MAYOR IS, HAS WENT ALONG TOO, BUT, BUT SHE'S ALSO HAD A VERY LIMITED ROLE TO WHERE SHE SHOWS UP FOR THE MEETING, SHE SHAKES HANDS AND THEN WE GET OUT OF THERE SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THE LEASING DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE IMPETUS FOR THIS TONIGHT IS THEY'VE CHANGED THINGS UP ON US.

IT IS NOW MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, AND THEY'RE ALSO NOT LETTING YOU REGISTER FOR HOTELS UNTIL YOU'RE REGISTERED FOR THE CONFERENCE.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND GRABBED HOTELS FOR THE THREE OF US WHO ARE, WHO ARE GOING FROM THE CITY.

SO IF ANYBODY FROM THE COUNCIL'S GOING, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT FOUR PEOPLE, FOUR ROOMS, FIVE.

WE GOT FIVE.

OKAY.

WE GOT ROOMS, BUT THEY, BUT THEY REQUIRED US TO GET THE ROOMS IN ADVANCE AND YOU COULDN'T GET 'EM PRIOR TO, TO REGISTERING.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE HAVE ROOMS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO ALL IS FOR SURE GOING, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET THERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

FOR SURE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WESTBROOK.

YEAH.

SORRY MAYOR, MAYBE THIS WAS A TOPIC BETTER SUITED FOR AT THE END TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.

JUST A CONCERN I'VE HEARD OVER A PERIOD OF TIME IS THE, UH, NUMBER OF DENTIST NAIL PLACES, , YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MAYBE YOU WON'T SEE ANY DENTAL OR NAIL PEOPLE AT AT ICSA, I PROMISE YOU.

MAYBE YOU GET SOME MORE DIVERT.

I, IT'S JUST A COMMENT THAT I'VE HEARD OUTTA IT.

I, I, NO, I'LL BE, I'LL BE CANDID AND, AND RESPOND TO THAT, THAT WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS AND, UH, A LOT OF THE SIGNAGE YOU SEE AT SHIRT STATION, WE MET WITH THOSE FOLKS AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF FOLKS.

THAT'S, WE ARE, WE ARE FOCUSING ON WHAT WE HEAR THAT PEOPLE WANT AND IT, IT'S A BUSINESS DECISION FOR THEM TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE THERE TO TRY AND SELL OURSELVES TO THEM AND, AND ASK THEM TO, TO, TO INVEST IN US COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

UM, JUST TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE, IF WE SEND A, A GROUP OF PERSONNEL DOWN THERE, WHAT, HOW MANY, HOW MANY WOULD, UH, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY GROUPS OF TWO AS YOU'RE HITTING THE BOOTH ARE AFFECTED, BUT WHEN IN THE MEETINGS, PROBABLY A GROUP OF THREE.

SO I MEAN, WE, IN THE PAST WE'VE KIND OF DIVIDED AND CONQUERED ON A COUPLE OF THESE MEETINGS.

WE DIVIDED UP IN THE MORNINGS, JOINED UP FOR THE MEETINGS AND THEN DIVIDED BACK UP.

SO A GROUP OF TWO OR THREE IS OPTIMAL WHEN YOU'RE GETTING IN THOSE BOOTHS.

I JUST WANNA BE MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE IN SHIRTS, LIKE TRADER JOE'S CENTRAL MARKET, H-E-B-B-M-W, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MOST OR A LOT OF RESIDENTS WANT, THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.

WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, DO WE? UH, NO SIR.

SO THE DIRECTION I THINK WE HAVE IS THAT IT'LL BE THE SAME TYPE OF TEAM AS LAST YEAR WITH SCOTT AND AMY AND I WILL BE FROM THE STAFF AND THEN THE MAYOR FROM THE COUNCIL, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING COUNCILWOMAN WATSON.

SO IF, IF THAT'S AND UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO THE TEAM, I JUST ASK THEM TO SPEAK UP NOW SO WE CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.

AND THERE IS A BIT OF A TIMING ISSUE, RIGHT? THE HOTEL ROOMS GO FAST, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO Y'ALL NOW.

I, I WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OPEN TO GOING AGAIN, SO THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO TEAMS OF THREE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL THAT'S HOW WE'LL PROCEED THEN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WAS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.

NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, MOVING

[9. Ordinance 26-M-002 - Conduct a public hearing to consider amending Chapter 90 Article V. Water and Wastewater Capital Recovery Fees, Section 90-142 Definitions, Capital Improvement Advisory Committee (CIAC) definition. (B.James/K.Woodlee)]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 26 DASH M DASH 0 0 2.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDING CHAPTER 90, ARTICLE FIVE, WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL RECOVERY FEES SECTION 90 DASH 1 42 DEFINITIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, MR. JAMES, OR I'M SORRY, WOODLEY.

HI, YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME, .

OH, LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ORDINANCE 26 DASH M DASH 0 0 2? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO WE OPENED UP AT THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 24 AND WE CLOSED IT AT 7 25 WITH, UH, NOBODY COMING UP TO SPEAK.

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UH, GO AHEAD MS. WOODLEY.

ALRIGHT, I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, SO THIS IS SIMPLY, UM, A DEFINITION CHANGE.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING IMPACT FEES, UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ELSE IN THE ORDINANCE.

UM, THERE WAS LEGISLATION IN THE, IN THE PAST SESSION REGARDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE MAKEUP OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COMMONLY CALLED CIAC.

UM, THAT DICTATED, UH, HOW THAT COMMITTEE MUST BE MADE UP.

PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE ABLE TO USE OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH A COUPLE ADDITIONAL FOLKS TO, UM, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, AND WE'LL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES, UH, WHO ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OF A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS DEEMED TO CLOSE TO THE DEFINITION OF A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE, UM, A MINIMUM OF FIVE FOLKS, NOT LESS THAN 50% FROM THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING INDUSTRIES.

UM, AND ALSO WE WILL HAVE A MEMBER WHO IS A RESIDENT OF THE ETJ BECAUSE OUR, SOME OF OUR FEES DO APPLY TO THE ETJ.

SO WE'RE SIMPLY FIXING THE DEFINITION OF BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, CHAPTER 3 95 OF THE TE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

OKAY, MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 26 M 0 0 2 SECOND.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HAYWARD, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GUERRERO, UH, TO APPROVE, UH, ORDINANCE 26 DASH M DASH ZERO TWO.

UH, CAN I GET EVERYBODY TO CAST THE VOTES? CAN I GET THE VOTES PUBLISHED PLEASE? OKAY.

HAVING SIX YAYS, NO NAYS.

UH, MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT,

[ Requests and Announcements Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers for updates or information from Staff Requests by Mayor and Councilmembers that items or presentations be placed on a future City Council agenda City and Community Events attended and to be attended (Council)]

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE REQUEST AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UH, NO DISCUSSION, UH, TO OCCUR ON THESE OTHER ITEMS. UH, SO REQUEST AN ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR UPDATES OR INFORMATION FROM STAFF, ANYBODY NEEDING ANY INFORMATION FROM STAFF.

OKAY.

UH, DO I HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE, UM, ANY PRESENTATIONS OR ANY AGENDA ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDAS? NO.

DO OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY CITY AND COMMUNITY EVENTS ATTENDED AND TO BE ATTENDED, UH, THAT Y'ALL WANNA PRESENT? YEAH, I ATTENDED THE, UH, PARKS BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING.

NOTHING OF THIS TIME.

I BELIEVE SINCE THE LAST MEETING WE HAD THE, UH, FIRE AWARD CEREMONY.

UM, WE HAD, UH, THREE OFFICER, UH, THAT RETIRED THEIR, UM, CEREMONY AS WELL.

AND THEN THE, UM, STATION FOUR GROUNDBREAKING TODAY, FIREFIGHTERS BANQUET.

I ATTENDED THAT.

HMM.

FIREFIGHTERS BANQUET MAYOR.

UM, I ATTENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING AT THE COL UH, SHIRTS COLLECTION.

IT, THEY LOOK LIKE HOMES.

IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

THEY SPARED NO EXPENSE, I GUESS I COULD SAY EXPENSE, BUT THEY JUST REALLY MADE THAT A PREMIUM RENTAL, UM, HOME AREA.

THE FINISHES WERE AMAZING.

I ATTENDED THE, UM, POLICE RETIREMENT AND THE MAIN STREET COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL AS THE RIBBON CUTTING TODAY FOR THE FIRE STATION.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

AND I ATTENDED THE MAYOR'S WORKSHOP WORKSHOP THAT WAS HELD IN THE CITY OF SANTA CLARA AND ALSO THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR STATION NUMBER FOUR TODAY.

HAVING, UH, NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7 29.

ARE YOU UP FOR SEVEN?