[ Call to Order]
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UH, IT'S NINE O'CLOCK, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER TODAY'S FRIDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2026.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START OUT WITH THE OPENING PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
TO THE FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, I CAN GET EVERYBODY TO STAND PLEASE.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH GRATITUDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE WISDOM AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, ESPECIALLY AS WE DISCUSS MATTERS THAT IMPACT THE FUTURE AND FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP OF OUR CITY RAN US.
CLARITY OF THOUGHT, UNITY OF PURPOSE, AND THE ABILITY TO LISTEN WITH OPEN MINDS AND RESPECTFUL HEARTS.
HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT REFLECT INTEGRITY, RESPONSIBILITY, AND A GENUINE COMMITMENT TO THE WELLBEING OF THOSE WE SERVE.
BLESS THIS COUNCIL, OUR CITY STAFF, AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL PRESENT TODAY.
MAY OUR EFFORTS LEAD TO A STRONGER, SAFER, AND MORE PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY FOR ALL.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE, LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, TEXAS ALLEGIANCE, HONOR, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD
[ Hearing of Residents This time is set aside for any person who wishes to address the City Council. Each person should fill out the speaker’s register prior to the meeting. Presentations should be limited to no more than 3 minutes. All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any individual member thereof. Any person making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks while addressing the Council may be requested to leave the meeting. All handouts and/or USB devices must be submitted to the City Secretary no later than noon on the Monday preceding the meeting. Handouts will be provided to each Councilmember prior to the start of the meeting by the City Secretary. All USB devices will be vetted by City IT staff to ensure City property is protected from malware. Discussion by the Council of any item not on the agenda shall be limited to statements of specific factual information given in response to any inquiry, a recitation of existing policy in response to an inquiry, and/or a proposal to place the item on a future agenda. The presiding officer, during the Hearing of Residents portion of the agenda, will call on those persons who have signed up to speak in the order they have registered.]
AND MOVE TO HEARING OF RESIDENCE.THIS TIME IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH PERSON SHOULD FILL OUT THE SPEAKER REGISTER PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
PRESENTATION SHOULD BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
ALL REMARKS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER THEREOF, ANY PERSON MAKING PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.
WHILE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MAY BE REQUESTED TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
ALL HANDOUTS AND OR USB DEVICES MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY NO LATER THAN NOON ON THE MONDAY PROCEEDING.
THE MEETING HANDOUTS WILL BE PROVIDED TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING BY THE CITY SECRETARY.
ALL USB DEVICES WILL BE VETTED BY THE CITY IT STAFF TO ENSURE CITY PROPERTY IS PROTECTED FROM MALWARE MAYOR PRO TIM DAVIS, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK? UH, YES SIR.
UH, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MIC OVER HERE, IF YOU'LL PLEASE, UH, OKAY.
YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO STAND TO THE SIDE SO THAT WAY WE DON'T GET FEEDBACK.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M A RETIRED CPA AND I LIVE AT 1509 GWENDOLYN WAY, 7 8 1 5 4.
USE THAT MICROPHONE OVER THERE.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
OH, IT'S, UH, YOU SHOULD NEED TO GET CLOSER TO THE MIC.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M A RETIRED CPA AND I LIVE AT 1509 GLAND WAY 7 8 1 5 4.
AS YOU APPROACH EACH BUDGET CYCLE, IT'S GOOD TO REFLECT ON CURRENT BUDGETING PRACTICES, THEIR EFFECTS ON BUDGETING POLICIES, AND ON THE TAXPAYERS OF SHIRTS.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN EXAMPLE OF A WEAK PRACTICE USING INFORMATION FROM OUTSIDE SHIRTS TO ASSESS THE INTERNAL STATE OF SHIRTS.
EXAMPLES TO DECIDE MATTERS OF COMPENSATION.
YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY LOOKED OUTSIDE RATHER THAN INSIDE YOUR OWN CITY.
YOU LOOK TO A COMPENSATION STUDY OR AN EMPLOYER INDEX, NEITHER OF WHICH PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER AS TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING INSIDE THE CITY OF CERTS.
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF COME AS STATEMENTS OF NEED, BUT WITH VERY LITTLE EVIDENCE OF NEED.
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THIS IS JUST LIKE YOUR DOCTOR GIVING ME BLOOD TESTS TO ASSESS YOUR HEALTH.DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL? IN RECENT BUDGETS, INTERNAL EVIDENCE, SUPPORTING SUCH CLAIMS WAS NOT OFFERED OR ALARMING.
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW TO PROPERLY RUN AND IMPROVE SHIRTS IS CONTAINED IN YOUR OWN BOOKS AND RECORDS.
ANOTHER WEAK PRACTICE ACCEPTING CLICHES, SLOGANS AND SOUNDS GOOD EUPHEMISMS, AS SETH ELVIS DID.
RECENT BUDGETS CLAIM HIGHER COMPENSATION WILL REDUCE TURNOVER AND ATTRACT TALENT.
AND IT SAYS MORE STAFF WILL IMPROVE SERVICE AND REDUCE BURNOUT.
WHAT YOU KNOW DEPENDS ON THE EVIDENCE, NOT THE CLICHES, BUT WHERE IS THE HARD EVIDENCE? WHERE IS THE LIST OF EXACT POSITIONS THAT CANNOT BE FILLED? WHERE IS THE DATA SHOWING? HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN VACANT? WHERE IS THE DATA SHOWING? HOW MANY FIRST JOB OFFERS WERE TURNED DOWN? AND THE EVIDENCE THAT PAY WAS THE REASON? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE SHOWING HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY LEFT FOR ANOTHER CITY FOR HIGHER PAY? AND BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT RAISING PAY, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THE POSITION SHOULD STILL EXIST AT ALL? COULD THE WORK BE REDESIGNED? COULD LOW VALUE WORK BE ELIMINATED? COULD THE JOB BE CHARGED INSTEAD OF AUTOMATICALLY FUNDED? FOR THERE ARE ANY MORE.
THERE ARE MANY MORE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK, BUT OFTEN DON'T.
YOU SEE, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF REAL MEASURES OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING INSIDE YOUR CITY.
THEY'RE ACTUAL DATA, NOT SLOGANS AND EUPHEMISMS THAT CAN PROVE WHETHER OR NOT SHIRTZ HAS OR EVER HAS HAD A COMPENSATION PROBLEM AT ALL.
THAT KIND OF DATA WILL POINT YOU TO EXACTLY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM.
IF THERE REALLY ARE A FEW HARD TO FILL POSITIONS, THEN ADDRESS THOSE FEW POSITIONS DIRECTLY.
DO NOT USE BROAD CITYWIDE MA IN INCREASES.
DO NOT PAINT THE WHOLE CAR WHAT ALL YOU NEED IS A TOUCH UP.
MAKE SMALL TARGETED ADJUSTMENTS, THEN MEASURE WHETHER IT WORKED IF NEEDED.
MAKE ANOTHER SMALL ADJUSTMENT LATER.
PRODUCE A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON INSIDE YOUR OWN CITY.
YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW THE MARKET FORCES SHIRTS EXPERIENCING WITHOUT CAREFULLY ANALYZING YOUR INTERNAL MEASURES.
A BETTER PRACTICE DEMAND INTERNAL EVIDENCE, SUPPORTING CLAIMS FOR INCREASED SPENDING BEFORE APPROVING ANY, UH, BUDGET INCREASES.
I'M A NEW COMMUNITY MEMBER IN SHIRTS OR MARIAN AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
AND I RECEIVED A WELL, UH, UH, WARM WELCOME AS I CAME IN AND WAS INVITED TO BREAK BREAD, UH, WITH SOME OF THE STAFF HERE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, BEING A NEW RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE THE ROADS A LOT AND I WAS SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH, UH, THE STAFF, SANTA, UH, CLARA, AND I'M SURE MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT ONE, THE BUMPY DE BUMPY DE BUMP ROAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAVE OTHER ROADS HERE.
SOMETIMES I TAKE GREEN VALLEY ROAD.
SOMETIMES YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE I 35 VERSUS THE ROAD WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO YOUR, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT WE ORDINARILY HAVE AND WE TAKE FOR GRANTED ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.
SO, UH, I AM ALSO LOOKING AT AND WONDERING ABOUT PARKS.
HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE? ARE THEY WELL KEPT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE YOUTH THAT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN.
I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE LIBRARIES.
NOW WE HAVE ABOUT, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME MENTALLY, ABOUT 44,000, 43,000 OF POPULATION.
AND MY WONDERING IS WITH ONE LIBRARY, IS THAT REALLY ENOUGH FOR OUR COMMUNITY? WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.
SO AS YOU DO THE BUDGET, I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER US AS A POPULATION WHO YOU'RE SERVING AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO FLOURISH AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE A PLANNING
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GROWTH MAP, SOMETHING DETAIL? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN A CERTAIN AREA OR WE HAVE SERVICES FOR THIS, UH, LITTLE NICHE.THIS LITTLE NICHE OR THAT LITTLE OUT POCKET? WHERE IS IT? BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AND I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THE PLANET, UH, PLANNING GROWTH MAP THAT SHIRTZ HAS, UH, AS A, UM, AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND TO SEE WHERE WE ARE GOING AND WHERE I CAN SERVE.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STAND HERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BE A PART OF THE, UM, GROWTH OF SHIRTS AND HOW THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
UH, YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND IT'S FOR THE HOW.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING AND LEARNING HOW THINGS ARE DONE AND HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WHERE I CAN OFFER MY SERVICES OR WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO BE.
UH, I AM A RETIRED TEACHER, SO I'VE BEEN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR MANY YEARS.
I'VE DONE MY SERVICE, BUT I CAN CONTINUE TO DO MY SERVICE.
AND, UM, WITH FAITH IN GOD, I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE TO 150 WITH, UH, WITH AS MUCH, UH, LIVELINESS AND, UH, AND, UH, BEING ABLE TO FOCUS.
SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, DEFINITELY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, SERVICE AND IT TAKES A LOT TO BE HERE.
TAKE YOUR TIME AND TO MAKE DECISIONS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY TO REITERATE THAT THEY'RE INCOMPLETE SIDEWALKS FROM DANVILLE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SOME CHILDREN HAVE TO WORK, HAVE TO WALK SLASH OR NOT PROVIDED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AT THE T SAG BOARD, IT WAS OBSERVED BOTH SIDES.
I CAN LIVE WITH ONE OUT THE TWO SIDES, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY THE MOST EXPENSIVE SIDE YET.
IT'S EIGHT YEARS IN THE COMING AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, I SEE US THROWING MONEY AT, YOU KNOW, BUYING BUILDINGS ON OLD MAINE FOR ROUGHLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I'VE SEEN THE ANNUAL BUDGET THAT WAS OF THE AUDIT LASTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
UM, CAN WE PLEASE DO IT? THIS IS NOT A CONVENIENCE ROUTE FROM A KARATE SCHOOL.
THIS IS FROM HOME TO SCHOOL, SCHOOL TO HOME ROUTE.
UM, I DID A LOT OF CIRCLING BACK.
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE MY LAST PUSH TO YOU GUYS.
I REALLY WANT THE, THE SIDEWALKS COMPLETED AND FIGURED INTO THE BUDGET, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, ON A BRIGHTER NOTE, THANK YOU FOR MY NEW STREET ON ST.
I PROBABLY HAD THE BEST STREET AND SHIRTS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING MY CITY SAFE.
CHIEF LOWRY DOING A GREAT JOB.
LET'S PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR OUR CHILDREN.
PEOPLE WHO CAN'T VOTE, PEOPLE WHO CAN'T COME UP HERE.
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF THE BLACK SHEEP BEING A, A AL ISD, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BUFF SCHOOL, BUT, UH, MY KIDS STILL GO TO IT.
IT'S STILL THE CITY OF SHIRTS AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UH, WE, THE
[1. Staff will conduct a workshop to discuss the pre-budget and capital improvement program (CIP) development and prioritization process (S.Williams/Executive Team)]
STAFF WILL CONDUCT A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE PRE-BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS CIP, DEVELOPMENT AND PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO ACTUALLY BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS, AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING TO SEE.
AND THIS IS ONE OF TWO RETREATS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THE BUDGET, BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE OTHER BUDGETS DURING THE YEAR.
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THIS IS WHERE WE GET TOGETHER.WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF, AM I DONE, SHEILA
SO THIS IS OUR PLANNING RETREAT, AND I'LL GET TO THE OBJECTIVES HERE IN A MINUTE.
BUT I DO WANNA START OFF WITH SOME COMMENTS.
WE ARE, UH, NORMALLY WHEN WE START THIS PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY BEGIN WITH THE STAFF BACK IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
JAMES AND HIS CREW AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
IT HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, AND YOU COME OUT WITH THE FINAL PRODUCT IS, IS WHAT, WHAT WE END UP SEEING, BUT THERE IS A LOT BEHIND IT, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS BEHIND IT TO ULTIMATELY GET TO THAT END GAME.
SO I COMMEND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
I COMMEND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS.
NORMALLY WHEN I SET THE TONE WITH THEM, WHEN WE KICK OFF IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN HORRIBLE SHAPE.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GOTTA SCARE 'EM A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THIS YEAR AND OUR TREND OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE HAS BEEN SUCH THAT WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY COME IN BETTER ON REVENUES AND WE'VE COME IN LOWER ON EXPENDITURES.
AND WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT OVER ON FUND BALANCE.
WE'VE WORKED TO GET THAT DOWN OVER THE YEARS WITH NOT MUCH SUCCESS.
BUT WE HAVE SOME PLANS, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS.
AND NOW THE, WE HAD AN ANOMALY LAST YEAR THAT'LL CONTINUE INTO THIS YEAR THAT WE'LL DISCUSS LATER.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME PLANS FOR THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE INTENTION HERE IS TO GET YOUR INPUT AND ADDRESS ANY PLANS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND ANY PRIORITIES THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK US OFF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE START IN JAN OR FEBRUARY RATHER IN TERMS OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL.
SO YOU REMEMBER LAST MONTH WE HAD THE TEAM BUILDING STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT.
THREE YEARS AGO, OR TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE RETREAT AND DEVELOPED THE STRATEGIC PLAN, PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER, AND THEN YOU LATER ADOPTED THAT.
AND THEN THIS YEAR WAS MORE OF A TEAM BUILDING.
WE DID DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC PLAN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WAS MORE TEAM BUILDING BASED.
NOW, HERE WE ARE TODAY ON THE 27TH OF MARCH.
THIS IS OUR PRE-BUDGET PLANNING RETREAT.
ALL THE STAFF IS HERE, ALL THE COUNCIL'S HERE EXCEPT FOR ONE.
AND HE IS, HE'S GONNA BE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WHERE WE, I'LL GO THROUGH THE INTENTION OF THE MEETING HERE IN A SECOND, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE DO SOME OF THE IDEA MAKING FOR THE PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN IN APRIL AND JULY, THIS IS REALLY THE, THE HEART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM SLASH CAPITAL BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE SAUSAGE IS MADE.
AND THEN WE COME BACK IN AUGUST AND WE'LL HAVE A BUDGET AND CIP RETREAT WITH THE COUNCIL.
IT'LL BE ANOTHER FRIDAY ALL DAY.
GO THROUGH THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE BUDGET.
WE CAN, WE CAN EXPAND THAT TO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU WANT OR STREAMLINE IT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE BUDGET WITH YOU AND WHAT WE INTEND TO BE THE FINAL PRODUCT.
AND WE DO THAT, THAT DATE IS, IS KIND OF KEY BECAUSE WE GET THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLE, WHICH HAS A BIG IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND AND THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEBT SERVICE ON THE 25TH OF JULY.
SO WE GET THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR CALCULATES WHAT IS CALLED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR US.
AND THEN THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.
AND THEN WE, WE ULTIMATELY BASE OUR, WHERE WE PROPOSE THE TAX RATE TO BE BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS.
IT'S A COMPLICATED FORMULA AND WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH THAT WITH Y'ALL AS WE GO THROUGH.
WE INTEND TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND THEN IT WILL BE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR ON OCTOBER 1ST, THE NEXT MONTH.
SO WHAT ARE OUR OBJECTIVES FOR TODAY? SO WITHIN THE CONTRACT, THE CONSTRUCT OF THE, THE BUDGET AND THE CIP AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE WANNA SEEK VALIDATION FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PAST, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PRESENT, BUT IMPORTANTLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE.
AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE SEE COMING, THAT WE NEED TO REALLY ANTICIPATE AND PLAN FOR.
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AND THE NEXT, UH, WE WANT TO IDENTIFY ANY PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.OF COURSE, WE HAVE SOME NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HEAR FROM AS WELL AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PROCESS.
AND ALSO, AS WE GO THROUGH, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE FAST-PACED.
AND I GO THROUGH AND PRESENT ALL THIS.
THIS IS A DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION.
IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, STOP ME.
SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, IF YOU REMEMBER, THESE ARE OUR FIVE GOALS, OF COURSE.
WE HAVE A MISSION AND A VISION, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CORE VALUES AND THEN OUR GOALS.
AND THIS IS WHAT WAS ADOPTED TWO YEARS AGO.
WE, WE ADOPTED THESE FIVE GOALS.
AND WITHIN EACH OF THESE, WE HAVE OBJECTIVES THAT, THAT, THAT FALL UNDER EACH ONE OF THESE.
AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING IN A DIRECTION TO WHERE WHEN WE PROPOSE SOMETHING TO GO INTO THE BUDGET, WHEN A STAFF MEMBER OR A DEPARTMENT PROPOSES SOMETHING TO GO INTO BUDGET, IT SHOULD ALIGN WITH ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES AND IT SHOULD FEED INTO ONE OF THE GOALS.
AND IT SHOULD ULTIMATELY SERVE THE MISSION AND THE VISION.
THESE THINGS ALL SHOULD FLOW THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THE CIP, THE BUDGET, ALL OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANS, THE, ALL OF THE SUBORDINATE PLANS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN SHOULD SERVE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO.
OH, AND REAL QUICK, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE CURIOUS AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, GOT A LITTLE LINK HERE.
IF YOU'VE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE DEVELOPED IT, ET CETERA.
THERE'S A LITTLE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, BUT OUR MISSION, VISION AND VALUES AND THEN OUR GOALS.
AND THEN WITHIN, WITHIN EACH OF THE GOALS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, UNDERLYING OBJECTIVES.
AND THEN WITHIN THOSE OBJECTIVES, WE WOULD HAVE A, A TASK OR A STRATEGY THAT GOES UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD FEED THOSE.
GEEZ, I GOTTA PUT MY GLASSES ON HERE.
SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER AND WE PUT THE CIP TOGETHER, AND WHEN WE DO THE PLANNING FOR THE FINANCES FOR THE CITY, QUESTION YES SIR.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO, UH, TACKLE THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, DOVE METALS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN OLD SHIRTS, UH, IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, THEY NEED SIDEWALKS.
THEY NEED OTHER, OTHER MAINTENANCE POTHOLES.
THERE'S, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OLD STEIN ROAD NEEDS TO BE WIDENED.
MASKY ROAD NEEDS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT? THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND ONE I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WE GOT, THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS, AND I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ASKED THIS 'CAUSE IT LEADS INTO WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS PART OF THIS LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANNING CONSTRUCT, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A 10 YEAR CIP WITH THE FIVE FIRST, FIRST FIVE YEARS ARE REALLY DETAILED OUT.
AND THEN THE LAST FIVE ARE, ARE MORE OF FURTHER OUT AND, AND MORE OF AN IDENTIFICATION OF THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.
SO I'M GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN DETAIL.
UH, I CAN JUMP TO IT OR I CAN KEEP GOING HERE, WHICHEVER YOU GUYS PREFER.
YEAH, GO AHEAD AND KEEP GOING.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA ADD MORE FUNDS ABSOLUTELY.
TO THIS, THIS, YES, THIS AREA, THIS SUBJECT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
WE DO HAVE A PLAN AND I'LL, WE'LL BE SHOWING YOU ALL $750 MILLION PROJECTS, $50 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
ALRIGHT? SO WHEN WE'RE PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER, WE WANNA KEEP THIS LONG TERM STRATEGIC, THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANNING PERSPECTIVE
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IN MIND, THAT LONG-TERM VISION, WE DEVELOP POLICIES AROUND THAT.THE CITY HAS A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICY AND WE HAVE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT HELP GOVERN THAT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR FORECASTING IS TECHNICALLY SOUND AND THAT OUR ANALYTICS AND THAT OUR ANALYSIS TECHNICALLY SOUND, BUT THEN ALSO WE WANNA HAVE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS THAT INCLUDES THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND EVEN THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANT TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN WE ALSO, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANNA HAVE A CONNECTION TO ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS.
WHY BOTHER DOING A PARKS MASTER PLAN OR A ROADS MASTER PLAN IF THERE'S NO INTENTION, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AT LEAST PAY ATTENTION TO IT AND ATTEMPT TO INCORPORATE THAT IN WHAT YOU DO FOR YOUR CIP AND YOUR BUDGET.
SO WE DO A FIVE YEAR OPERATING BUDGET FORECAST FOR THE MAJOR FUNDS LIKE THE GENERAL FUND, WATER SEWER FUND, EMS, ET CETERA.
AND THEN WE DO A 10 YEAR CONSOLIDATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR ALL OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, SIR.
SO ONE THING I LIKE TO START OFF WITH, AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS UPFRONT, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DATED.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THE PAST DECADE OR SO, AND IT'S OUR, IT'S OUR RESIDENT SURVEY.
IT'S TO GET A FEEL, IT IS A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WITH A LARGE ENOUGH SAMPLE SIZE TO BE ABLE TO GET A VALID SAMPLE OF HOW OUR RESIDENTS AND THE RESPONDENTS FEEL.
SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE SELECTED A FEW THINGS OUT OF THERE.
ONCE AGAIN, I'VE GOT THE LINK HERE IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE FULL SURVEY IF YOU WANT.
IT'S POSTED ON OUR WEBPAGE ALONG WITH THE ONES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU GO BACK OVER TIME, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH VARIATION.
THERE'S SOME VARIATION IN THE WAY THE RESPONDENTS RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR EACH TIME.
THIS IS A GOOD BASIS TO GET A FEEL OF HOW THE BROADER COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE INVESTING OUR TIME, OUR TALENTS, OUR RESOURCES.
AND, AND SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE SELECTED CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT ARE OVERALL KIND OF INDICATORS THAT, THAT POINT TO WHAT WE'VE, WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND WHAT WE HAVE, UH, BEEN CARRYING ON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO BUDGET DEVELOPMENT.
SO BASED ON THE SURVEY RESULTS, THESE ARE THE PRIMARY AREAS THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WOULD TARGET.
WHICH NUMBER ONE ON THERE, COUNCILMAN GUERRERO, MAINTENANCE OF STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT THERE, BUT I'LL WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO FOCUS ON.
SO THIS FIRST ONE, YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES.
SO THE DARK BLUE AND THE LIGHT BLUE KIND OF INDICATES YOU'RE, YOU'RE VERY SATISFIED AND YOU'RE SATISFIED.
YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST YOU GOT FIRE SERVICE.
EVERYBODY IS VERY SATISFIED WITH YOUR SERVICE.
93% JUMP ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM AND WE WILL PICK ON THE BOTTOM ONE THERE, ENFORCE 'EM TO CODES AND ORDINANCES, RIGHT? A LOT, A LOT LESS.
SO, AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIATION ALONG THE WAY OF, OF THIS VARIOUS SATISFACTION OF SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE.
I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IN CASE YOU GUYS ARE, UNLESS YOU'RE STILL, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON YES, SIR.
SO THAT'S A CITIZEN SATISFACTION SURVEY.
HOW MANY DID YOU GET BACK THAT RELATES TO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN? HOW MANY RESPONDENTS WERE THERE? YES.
MAYBE SARAH JUST WALKING IN THE DOOR.
SO OUT OF A, OUT OF A SAMPLE OF SAY OUR COMMUNITY SIZE FOR 45,000 OR SO, UH, 450 WOULD REPRESENT PROBABLY A 95% GREATER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
I'M, I'M FINE WITH ANSWERING A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE IF YOU ARE MAYOR.
IS THAT OKAY? I'LL DEFER TO SARAH PROPERLY.
SO, UM, THE SURVEY WAS SENT OUT, UM, PHYSICALLY TO RANDOM SAMPLING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND THEN IT WAS ALSO SENT, UM, I THINK ELECTRONICALLY IF THERE WERE EMAIL ADDRESSES TIED TO IT.
SO IT WAS KIND OF CONDUCTED BOTH WAY, BUT IT WAS TARGETED TO GET A CERTAIN NUMBER RESPONDENTS.
SO IT COULD BE A, A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.
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I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY RECEIVED IT, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY GOT ENOUGH, LIKE 4 50, 500 RESPONSES.BUT I, I GUESS I, I'M ASKING OUT THE FOUR SENT OUT, IT SENT OUT, OUT, OUT WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WAS THAT WAS SENT OUT AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT.
WE, WE CAN, WE CAN CHECK THAT AND, AND SEE, BUT IF, IF YOU GOOGLE IT, RIGHT, WHAT IS A STATISTICALLY VALID SAMPLE? SO, SO IF YOU GOOGLE, JUST DO A QUICK AI SEARCH, 50,000 SURVEY POPULATION, WHAT IS A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF THAT? AND AT WHAT LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE? SO IF YOU GET 400 BACK, YOU'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF IN THAT 95% LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
SO THE REALITY IS, IS NO SURVEY IS A HUNDRED PERCENT PERFECT, BUT IF YOU'RE 95% CONFIDENT, THAT'S A GOOD INDICATOR THAT THE RESPONDENTS ARE REPRESENTATIVE.
RIGHT? AND THE ONLY REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS IF IT WAS A RANDOM SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY OUTTA THE FOUR, FIVE CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE HERE, WE OUT A RANDOM SURVEY TO 10,000 OUTTA IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT WAS A RANDOM SURVEY, WHICH I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY, ACTUALLY MY QUESTION SURE.
RIGHT? AND, AND SO IN STATISTICS, IT, IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT LARGE OF A SAMPLE.
IT'S CONDUCTED EVERY, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE'VE MISSED A YEAR BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A VACANCY IN OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS I 20 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER RECEIVED, RIGHT? THAT'S VERY, VERY, ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY, I BELIEVE THE QUESTION'S ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET BACK WITH YOU AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON STATISTICAL SAMPLING AND WHAT CONSTITUTES A VALID SAMPLE AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES.
WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN A WHILE, BUT I DO BELIEVE WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, WE HAD A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
AND SO I AM, THESE ARE GENERALIZED TERMS, OKAY? SO THIS IS GENERALLY WHERE THE RESPONSE IS TO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAD GOTTEN A 10,000 RESPONSES, THAT IT WOULD CHANGE THIS PATTERN VERY MUCH, RIGHT? I'M, I'M FAIRLY CON I'M VERY CONFIDENT OF THAT.
SO MOVING ON, YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS ONE IS JUST A COMPARISON OF CITY SERVICES VERSUS TEXAS VERSUS THE US.
THE RESPONDENTS WERE WELL IN EXCESS OF TEXAS OVERALL.
LOOKING AT FIRE SERVICE, YOU CAN SEE 64% OF TEXAS, US 93 AND THEN THE US OVERALL 76.
SO IN EVERY CASE, EVEN DOWN, WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH OUR, OUR RESPONDENTS, OUR CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS IS GREATER THAN THE STATE LEVEL AND GREATER, GREATER THAN THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
CONVERSELY, THE QUESTION IS ASKED, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS IN THE SURVEY.
SO IF YOU GO THROUGH IT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ALL THE QUESTIONS, YOU SEE THE RESPONSES.
I'VE CHERRY PICKED A FEW OUTTA HERE.
HOWEVER, THESE ARE, THIS ONE'S A GOOD INDICATOR.
SO WHAT SHOULD RECEIVE THE MOST EMPHASIS? YOU CAN SEE THE
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RESPONSE THERE.AND THIS IS THE FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD CHOICE OUT OF SAY 30 OR SO, OR HOWEVER MANY IS IN THAT LIST.
THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRE LIST, BUT IF, IF ANY ONE OF THESE SERVICES WAS SOMEBODY'S FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, OR FOURTH CHOICE, YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.
BUT WE GOT POLICE SERVICES AT THE TOP.
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ENFORCEMENT OF CODES AND ORDINANCES, RIGHT? SO IF YOU FLIP BACK TO THIS OTHER ONE, ENFORCEMENT OF CODES AND ORDINANCES, THERE'S A LOW LEVEL OF SATISFACTION THERE, RIGHT? BUT YOU GO HERE AND THERE'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF A DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS AND THAT IT SHOULD RECEIVE EMPHASIS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE POLICE SERVICES AND THEN YOU GO UP HERE AND POLICE SERVICES IS PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT, UM, 82% OR SO, BUT DOWN HERE YOU'RE AT THE TOP.
SO POP QUIZ, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LOOK AT AND SAY, GOSH, WE NEED TO PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO.
SO READING THAT ONE INDICATION MIGHT BE THAT WE WOULD WANNA LOOK AT, GOSH, WE, WE PROBABLY REALLY NEED TO PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING A BETTER JOB THERE.
'CAUSE THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THAT AND IT NEEDS THE EMPHASIS.
AND THAT'S JUST AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, Y'ALL, WE LOOK AT THIS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THEN ALSO, HOW DO RESPONDENTS FEEL ABOUT THE LEVEL OF VARIOUS SERVICES? ARE THEY MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS? NOT MEETING IN THAT BLUE.
THIS ONE SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER OR SHOULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER AND SHOULD STAY THE SAME AND SHOULD BE MUCH LOWER.
SO UP THERE AT THE TOP, MAINTENANCE OF STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE TAKE CARE OF AND MAKE IT A HIGH PRIORITY.
LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE A VERY HIGH PRIORITY.
RECREATION ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEETING THEIR EXPECTATIONS.
ALRIGHT, SO BEARING THAT IN MIND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE SURVEY? NOW ADMITTEDLY, THE SURVEY DATA ARE NOT CURRENT.
WE DO ANTICIPATE TO REPEAT THAT SURVEY THIS YEAR AND WE DID SKIP A YEAR.
THE PATTERN IS RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR YEARS.
I WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR.
THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES, THERE WILL BE SOME TWEAKS.
I WILL SAY THIS OVERALL SATISFACTION BY THE COMMUNITY HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF SURVEYS.
SO IT, IT'S A GOOD INDICATOR THAT WE ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE DO NEED TO REPEAT THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE VALIDATE THE RESULTS.
AGAIN, MAYOR, I WILL OFFER THIS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK, CIRCLE BACK.
WE DID HIRE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM TO DO THIS THAT IS VERY REPUTABLE AND IS ACTUALLY NATIONALLY KNOWN.
THERE IS AN ENTIRE SOUND METHODOLOGY BEHIND THE, WHAT THEY USE TO DO THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS.
HOW MUCH IS THE SURVEY? I THINK IT'S ABOUT 20 GRAND, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S, IT IS, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, UH, ESTABLISHED IN THE WORLD IN TERMS OF DOING SURVEYS.
THERE'S SOME VARIANTS, BUT THESE ARE JUST A WAY TO GAIN INDICATORS.
MAYOR, YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANT TO TALK.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TREAT THIS LIKE A DIALOGUE AND I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IF, IF THAT'S THE OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL.
I DO, I DO NOT WANT TO TREAT THIS LIKE A DIALOGUE.
SO PLEASE PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, SO OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS DEVELOPED TWO YEARS BEFORE I GOT THERE.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LIST WITH ONE CHANGE.
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THIS IS THE FIVE PRIORITIES, NOT NECESSARILY IN RANK ORDER, BUT THEY ARE ALL LISTED THERE AS OUR TOP PRIORITIES.TOP ONE BEING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH AN EMPHASIS ON STREETS.
OKAY? SO THAT, THAT IS WHERE THAT EMPHASIS COMES FROM.
THAT MEANS ALL THE WAY FROM BASELINE MAINTENANCE, LIKE CRACK SEAL, ALL THE WAY UP TO A FULL REHAB.
SO STREETS IS A FOCUS, IT'S AN AREA.
WHEN I CAME IN HERE THREE YEARS AGO AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE GOT EXCESS FUND BALANCE.
LET'S PUT IT INTO THE STREETS, LET'S PUT IT TO WORK.
WE HAVE DUMPED A BUNCH OF RESOURCES INTO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR RESIDENTS AND THE EXPECTATION IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
THE NEXT ONE IS A VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
AND SO WE, AS YOU ALL GOT THE MEMO FROM JAMES, WE HAD A WINDFALL IN THE GENERAL FUND WITH A LARGE SALES TAXPAYER CANNOT REALLY TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE DETAILS IN THIS FORM BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE LAW.
HOWEVER, IT IS A WINDFALL TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WHAT A VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND IS, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A REVOLVING CAPITAL FUND.
WE'VE GOT A SLIDE ON IT IN A FEW MINUTES.
BUT IT'S, IT'S AN, IT'S A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE A LEAP FORWARD AND REALLY SECURE OUR FOOTING IN TERMS OF FINANCES, COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION.
THIS CONTINUES TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE LIST AND IT MAINTAINS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO TAKE PAY OFF OF THE TABLE STAFFING LEVELS, ENSURING THAT WE'RE PROPERLY STAFFED.
GOT SOME INFORMATION IN HERE TO SHOW YOU ON THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN NEW AND REMODELED FACILITIES, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED REPEATEDLY, WE ARE A GROWING COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH.
THAT GROWTH COMES WITH GROWTH IN STAFF AND, AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE, ET CETERA.
OH, WELL, I UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT, UH, MS. LES THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE MAYOR TO ACKNOWLEDGE YEAH, IF WE CAN HOLD ALL QUESTIONS SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END.
OKAY, SO I'LL, I'LL DEAL WITH PRIORITY NUMBER ONE AND IN FACT THIS MIGHT ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO THE WAY THESE SLIDES ARE ORGANIZED, YOU KIND OF HAVE AN IN PROGRESS OR COMPLETED AT THE TOP AND YOU HAVE GOALS AT THE BOTTOM.
SO FIRST THING WE'VE BEEN DOING, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AS AN ONGOING EFFORT, IS TO MORE EFFICIENTLY UTILIZE OUR STAFF.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE DOING THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE BOUGHT A POTHOLE TRUCK, A POTHOLE PATCH TRUCK.
BEFORE YOU HAD TO DRAG IT OUT ON, YOU HAD TO RUN TO THE ASPHALT PLANT, YOU HAD TO DRAG IT OUT ON A TRAILER, YOU HAD TO BRING A CREW OUT IN A TRUCK.
AND YOU GOTTA FIX THAT THING AS QUICK AS YOU CAN, RIGHT LARRY? AND THAT WAS HARD TO DO.
AND YOU CAN ONLY WORK FOR A FEW HOURS 'CAUSE THAT ASPHALT COOLS.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN ONLY GET ENOUGH TO PUT IT IN THE GROUND.
NOW WE HAVE A PAD, A POTHOLE, AN ASPHALT TRUCK ESSENTIALLY THAT IS FULLY EQUIPPED WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT YOU CAN DRIVE FOR ALL DAY STAYS IN A WARM HOPPER, KEEPS THE ASPHALT WARM.
YOU CAN GO OUT, YOU CAN PATCH POTHOLES, YOU CAN PATCH, UM, YOU CAN FILL POTHOLES, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THE WORK, A LOT OF THE SMALLER MAINTENANCE WORK FROM THIS ONE TRUCK.
SO THAT'S A WAY THAT WE GOTTEN WAY MORE EFFICIENT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'VE GOT THE WEBPAGE, THE, UH, INTERACTIVE, WHICH SHOWS ALL OF OUR STREET MAINTENANCE AND OUR POTHOLES.
YOU CAN GO SEGMENT BY SEGMENT, MONTH BY MONTH, QUARTER BY QUARTER, YEAR BY YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE NUMBER OF POTHOLES, THEY DECREE IT HAS THE AMOUNT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOT A PICTURE FROM BEFORE PICTURE, AFTER, AFTER, FOR EVERY SINGLE POTHOLE THEY FILL, EVERY SINGLE PATCH THEY DO.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE ACCELERATION OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT DASHBOARD WAS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR.
SO WE ALSO, IN THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, WE HAD $753,000 FOR BASIC MAINTENANCE.
THAT'S AN INCREASE OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN PRIOR YEARS.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE I BELIEVE IN THE YEAR BEFORE THAT.
BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT AND KEEP IT UP THERE.
WE PUT THERE IS A, THERE ARE $53,899,496 IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET IN THE CIP.
THAT'S THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO INTO DETAIL WHAT THE CIP INCLUDES.
NOW WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S ON THE
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NEAR HORIZON IN TERMS OF STREET REPAIRS, STREET RECONSTRUCTIONS, NEW STREETS, ET CETERA.WE PUT IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE PUT IN 315,000 FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
THOSE TWO LAST TWO WERE ADDED AT THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION CAME ON WHEN WE FINALLY SET THE TAX RATE.
SO WHAT'S THE GOAL? WE'RE GONNA KEEP MAKING, WE'RE GONNA KEEP, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MAKE FUNDING STREET MAINTENANCE IN THE STREET.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUSH IT TO THE FOREFRONT AND CONTINUE TO FUND IT.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA PLAN, WE NEED TO PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF.
'CAUSE WITH MAINTENANCE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF IN HOUSE TO DO IT.
NOW THE LARGER STUFF, THE RECONSTRUCTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THEY'RE OUTSOURCED, RIGHT? YOU HIRE OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO DO THOSE THINGS, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, ET CETERA.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU STILL NEED PEOPLE INSIDE, LIKE IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR EXAMPLE, TO MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING $10 MILLION HERE AND $3 MILLION HERE AND $15 MILLION HERE, SOMEBODY HAS TO MANAGE THAT PROJECT AND MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT KATHY? SO WE WILL NEED TO ADD MORE STAFF TO HELP WITH THAT PROCESS, VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
HAS ANYBODY EVER HEARD OF A VER VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND? OKAY.
SO WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT FOR US AND THIS CONSIDERS ALL ROLLING STOCK AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A PLACE TO START IN OUR ORGANIZATION.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE LINE, BUT IT'S A PLACE TO START.
THERE'S THREE WAYS TO REPLACE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
ONE IS YOU CAN APPROACH THOSE REPLACEMENTS.
YOU'VE GOT A LIFE CYCLE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.
CALL IT SEVEN YEARS FOR A PICKUP, FOUR YEARS FOR A POLICE CRUISER, 20 YEARS FOR A FIRE TRUCK.
ALL THESE THINGS HAVE DIFFERENT LIFE CYCLES.
THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? SO WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP IN THE BUDGET, OH GOSH, WE REALLY NEED THESE PICKUP TRUCKS AND WE REALLY NEED THIS AND WE REALLY NEED A NEW BACKHOE.
YOU JUST PULL IT IN, PUT IT INTO YOUR BUDGET.
OKAY? THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE NEXT ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS TO ISSUE DEBT, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT REALLY PLANNING FOR THAT REPLACEMENT.
YOU'RE JUST BUILDING INTO YOUR BUDGET THAT YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU COME INTO SOMETHING REALLY BIG, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE CASH SITTING IN YOUR FUND BALANCE, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A LEASE PURCHASE OR ISSUE DEBT FRONT END OF COS SCHOOLS DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR BUSES, RIGHT? THE FRONT END OF THEIR COS MR.
OKAY? AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS TO CREATE A REVOLVING CAPITAL FUND LIKE THIS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY FUND DEPRECIATION AS IT OCCURS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SET ASIDE, IF A TRUCK IS GONNA LAST 10 YEARS AND IT COSTS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU SET ASIDE $10,000 A YEAR.
SO WHEN THAT THING IS CONSUMED, IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
YOU GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SITTING THERE, OKAY? IT'S A GREAT PLAN.
YOU'RE SAVING UP FOR THAT THING TO BE REPLACED.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS YOU'VE GOT YEARS.
THE WAY, THE WAY WE DO IT NOW IS WE JUST BUILD IT IN THE BUDGET.
WHEN YOU COME UP TO A YEAR AND YOU GOT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR LADDER TRUCK THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, WELL YOU GOTTA COME UP WITH A MILLION DOLLARS, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PLANNING FOR THAT MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF HOPE THAT YOU HAVE IT.
AND YOUR OTHER OPTION IS TO JUST KEEP PUSHING THAT OUT UNTIL YOU HAVE IT.
THIS IS A STRUCTURE WHERE YOU LINE UP ALL YOUR ASSETS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE PURCHASED, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY COST.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE ANNUAL DEPRECIATION IS, YOU SAVE UP AND YOU'RE READY TO BUY IT WHEN IT'S DONE.
NOW IF YOU START ONE TODAY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED? WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING FLEET, WELL WE'VE ALREADY CONSUMED SOME OF THAT ROLLING STOCK AND THEN WE'VE GOT FUTURE THAT WE NEED TO SAVE UP FOR.
THE PROPOSAL OF A VF WOULD BE LET'S TAKE A LUMP SUM OF MONEY AND FUND IT IN A SEPARATE FUND FOR THAT ACCUMULATED DEPRECIATION.
AND THEN LET'S START CONTRIBUTING ANNUALLY TO WHAT WE DO.
IT SMOOTHS OUT THE EXPENDITURE FOR THE GENERAL FUND MOVING FORWARD, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I KNOW THAT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE, BUT WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY
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WITH THE EXTRA SALES TAX THAT WE GOT TO START SOMETHING LIKE THIS.'CAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT AN $8 MILLION ROLLING STOCK FUND, UH, $8 MILLION ROLLING STOCK FLEET.
SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN DEPRECIATED AND IT'S GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED.
SO THIS IS, AND MR. SCHWAR, AGAIN, I'LL USE YOU AN EXAMPLE AS A CPA, IT'S PROBABLY A DECENT WAY TO, TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, RIGHT? IS TO FUND YOUR DEPRECIATION AS AS YOU CONSUME THE ASSET.
SO IT ALSO HELPS US ON THE OTHER END WITH THAT FLUCTUATING EXPENDITURES THAT OCCURS IN A SEPARATE FUND, NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S A LEVEL, LEVEL CONTRIBUTION ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.
SO THE GOAL WE WANNA SET, ESTABLISH THE FUND AND THEN INCLUDE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND, AND WE OF COURSE WE GOTTA PUT THAT LUMP SUM OVER THERE AND THEN WE START PURCHASING IN THE FUTURE FROM THAT FUND.
THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT CAN BE ACTUALLY YOU CHERRY PICK THE BIGGEST ONE RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU CAN USE THIS CONCEPT FOR OTHER LARGE, OTHER SMALLER CAPITAL REPLACEMENTS, HVAC UNITS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.
UM, ARE THERE SOME VEHICLES THAT WE, OR HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT LEASING SOME OF THEM TO SAVE MONEY? OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO PURCHASE? WELL, SO LIKE IN LEASING SOME EQUIPMENT AT, AT A CONFERENCE, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UH, SAVING MONEY WHEN YOU LEASE SOME VEHICLES.
SO, SO REALLY, ESPECIALLY IN A HIGHER INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS, LEASING COSTS YOU MORE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY BORROWING AND BORROWING COMES AT A COST WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAVE THE DEPRECIATION, YOU ACTUALLY KIND OF MAKE MONEY ON THE BALANCE AS IT SITS THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, COMBINING THAT WITH THE RETURN THAT YOU GET FROM THE ASSET WHEN YOU DISPOSE OF IT, YOU'VE KIND OF GOT ENOUGH MONEY TO REPLACE IT WITH INFLATION INCLUDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE THIS REPRESENTS A BEST PRACTICE FOR OUR GOVERNMENT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ACCEPTING QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
SO ONLY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
AND JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS ALL ROLLING STOCK.
SO ANYTHING FROM A CAR TO A POLICE CAR TO A FIRE TRUCK, TO A BACKHOE TO A BULLDOZER TO, SO IT'S ALL ROLLING STOCK FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND THAT $8 MILLION ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE FLEET, IS THAT CORRECT JAMES? OR IS THAT JUST GENERAL FUND? GENERAL FUND
UH, GENERAL FUND AND INCLUDING THE, UM, FIRE ENGINES WHICH ARE, UM, HIGH DOLLAR AS WELL AS OTHER STREET, UM, LIKE STREET CLEANERS AND SWEEPERS, WHICH ARE ALSO HIGH DOLLAR, UH, VEHICLES AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE A SEPARATE LIST FOR SAY, DRAINAGE FUND WATER AND SEWER FUND.
SMALLER, BUT, BUT WE HAVE A SEPARATE CAPITAL ASSET LIST FOR THAT, SO.
UM, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE, UM, OR GET AN ANALYSIS OF A LEASE VERSUS PURCHASE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES TO MY MIND WHEN MS. UH, COUNCILWOMAN HAYWARD BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE LEASE OPTION, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING, TO ME IN MY MIND YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE FOLKS MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT CAN POTENTIALLY ADD ON VERSUS A LEASE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN IT BREAKS DOWN, GIVE IT BACK TO THE COMPANY, HEY, FIX IT AND BRING IT BACK OR GIMME ANOTHER ONE TO REPLACE IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING THAT YOU TYPICALLY DO A LEASE PURCHASE ANALYSIS PRIOR TO DOING IT.
SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE THAT.
YES, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND WE DO LOOK AT THAT.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE FOR YOUR LARGER STUFF.
I MEAN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR SMALLER FLEET STUFF, IT'S NOT AS IMPACTFUL, BUT WE WOULD EVALUATE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT SAY A LARGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND I WILL SAY THIS, FIVE YEARS AGO, LEASE PURCHASE WAS A WAY BETTER DEAL.
I GOT, UM, NOWADAYS, UH, IN THE PAST WE USED TO ROLL.
AFTER ONE YEAR WE WOULD ROLL THAT BACKHOE AND SEND IT BACK AND THEN GET A NEW BACKHOE AND IT WAS GREAT.
IT DOESN'T, THAT MODEL DOESN'T WORK FOR THE LEASER, THE LET STORE NOW IS AS WELL AS IT DID, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY THAT WE DO THE ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT
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YEAH, NO, WE KNOW THAT INTEREST RATES ARE RISING AND SO FORTH, BUT IT'S STILL IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO, TO GO THIS ROUTE VERSUS THIS ROUTE.I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WHAT I DO KNOW WITH THE LEASING IS YOU HAVE TO BUY THE PACKAGE FOR IT TO BE MAINTAINED.
IT JUST DOESN'T COME WITH THE LEASING.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN EVALUATE THAT EVERY TIME WE DO A LARGE PURCHASE, IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL.
I, I STILL RECOMMEND THAT WE CREATE A VEHICLE, A ROLLING CAPITAL FUND.
YOU, BUT I JUST REMEMBER FROM BEFORE YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND KNOWING THE INTEREST RATES NOW I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT WAS STILL PLAUSIBLE MM-HMM
NOT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR US TO START THE PROCESS.
WE, WE CAN LOOK AT, YEAH, WE WILL DEFINITELY ANALYZE IT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? EVERYBODY GOOD ON THE CONCEPTS? OKAY, SO STAFFING LEVELS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
THIS IS A PRIORITY MAINTAINING THIS, BUT TO BE VERY CANDID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE PRETTY GOOD ON, RIGHT? I THINK THE CITY OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS HAS DONE AN EXTREMELY GOOD, DONE A GREAT JOB OF STAFFING UP.
WE'RE NOT EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO HERE AND THERE, BUT THE, THE BULK OF THE HEAVY LIFTING HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP ON OUR RADAR.
AND THERE ARE AREAS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, LIKE STREETS AND SOME OTHERS WHERE WE STILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO ADD, BUT THE HEAVY LIFTING IS, IS DONE.
SO WE ADDED 25 POSITIONS INTO THE CURRENT BUDGET AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION THERE.
THERE'S NINE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SIX OF THOSE BEING FIREFIGHTERS TO FINISH OUT STAFFING.
FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE ALREADY HIRED SIX OF THE FOLKS AND WE'RE HIRING THE, THE NEXT SIX THIS YEAR ALREADY DONE.
WE ALREADY HIRED, WE ACTUALLY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT GREG WENT OUT AND GOT A GRANT.
IT'S CALLED A SAFER GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH ALLOWED US TO ACCELERATE THE HIRING OF THOSE OFFICERS.
AND IT PAYS, WHAT DOES IT PAY GREG? 75 55, UH, THREE YEAR PROCESS.
UH, 75%, 75%, AND 35% IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL PICK UP, WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 25, 25 AND 65 OVER THREE YEAR PERIOD.
SO WE'RE GONNA SAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND $1.6 MILLION.
WE EFFECTIVELY WERE ABLE TO SUPPLANT SOME OF THE COSTS WE WOULD'VE HAD TO PAY.
WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPLANT SOME OF THE COSTS WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO PAY ALREADY.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACCELERATE THE HIRING.
'CAUSE WE ONLY PUT ABOUT 25% IN THE BUDGET.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO HIRE 'EM EARLIER, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
'CAUSE YOU BRING 'EM ON BOARD, YOU TRAIN 'EM UP, YOU GET THAT UNIT TOGETHER AND YOU CAN JUMP RIGHT INTO SERVICE WHEN THAT, WHEN WE'RE READY FOR THE STATION OPEN.
WE ALSO HAD A SENIOR CENTER SUPERVISOR AND SENIOR CENTER COORDINATOR THAT WERE ADDED.
BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE WERE ESSENTIALLY INHERITED.
THEY WERE ALREADY PAID FOR WITH THE CONTRACT THAT WE WERE PAYING THE YMCA.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY CONVERTED CONTRACT DOLLARS TO SALARY DOLLARS WHEN WE TOOK OVER OPERATION OF THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN ASSISTANT CITY SECRETARY POSITION ADDED.
AND THEN THE WATER SEWER FUND, WE HAD SIX THAT WERE THERE.
WE HAD FOUR WORKER ONES, A WORKER, TWO, AND A CREW LEADER.
SO THAT WAS, UH, ESTABLISHING ANOTHER CREW, ESSENTIALLY FOUR OUR, UH, WATER SEWER.
AND THEN IN THE EMS FUND WE ADDED FOUR EMTS.
THE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT OUR EMS DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE, FOR THE INFORMATION OF OUR AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING OUR EMS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY SERVES THE BROADER AREA.
SO POPULATION SHIRTS IS ABOUT 45,000, 45,000 ISH.
THE AREA THEY SERVE IS CLOSER TO 200,000.
SO ROUGHLY THREE TIMES THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS IS WHAT THEY SERVE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE 10 OTHER ENTITIES THAT PARTICIPATE, 10 OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE SERVE ON A CONTRACT BASIS IN THE DRAINAGE FUND, WHICH IS ANOTHER FUND.
WE HAD THE, UH, A FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, WITH, UH, DEETS CREEK AND WITH SLO CREEK AND OTHER AREAS THAT WE NEED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH THAT FLOOD PLATE ADMINISTRATOR.
WE RECENTLY HIRED THAT POSITION.
WE ALSO HAVE THREE WORKER ONES AND
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A WORKER TWO AND A CREW LEADER.SO ESTABLISHING A DRAINAGE GROUP, THERE'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR DRAINAGE AND WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THIS HELPS US GET CLOSER TO HAVING THE RESOURCES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES.
BUT OVERALL, WE HAD 86 EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE 2021.
SO, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE AREAS THAT NEED RESOURCES, NEED EMPLOYEES.
BUT I, I THINK WE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING, LIKE I SAID, AND WE'RE IN A GOOD, WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW.
SO JUST TO KIND OF BREAK THAT DOWN, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 86 NEW EMPLOYEES FOR A MINUTE.
YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP 21 OF THOSE WERE IN AN EMS 17, WERE IN PUBLIC WORKS, 13 WERE IN FIRE, 11, WERE IN POLICES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE REST THAT WE'VE ADDED.
AND I WOULD SAY AT THE TOP YOU'VE GOT FOUR VERY CORE SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE, EMS AND PUBLIC WORKS THAT WHERE 72% OF THAT 86, 62 POSITION IS IN THOSE FOUR AREAS.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS IN THE OTHERS THAT YOU SEE THERE.
AND I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE OTHERS ONE BIT.
THEY ARE STILL VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY ARE STILL CRITICAL TO OUR OPERATION.
BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BULK OF THAT HAS COME FROM, FROM THOSE FOUR SERVICE AREAS.
AND POLICE, TO BE QUITE FRANK, JIM IS AT EIGHT, OUT OF THAT 11 THAT ARE, THAT ARE SROS, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE 86% OR SO OF THAT MONEY BACK FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR PROVIDING THOSE OFFICERS.
BUT IS IT EIGHT OR NINE? UH, OF THE 11, SIX OF THOSE WERE SROS OF THE NEW.
SO SIX OF THAT 11 IS FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON CAMPUS AND PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
AND THAT WE GET, WE ESSENTIALLY GET THE MONEY BACK FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR ALL, ALL THOSE POSITIONS.
ANY QUESTION ON STAFFING? YES MA'AM.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES TO RESTRUCTURE ROWS IN THE PROCESS TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY WITHOUT INCREASING HEADCOUNT.
SO THERE'S MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITY I LOVE AND ALWAYS WILL SUPPORT PUB OR FIRST RESPONDERS WITHOUT A DOUBT.
BUT WHEN WE GO INTO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND WHICH YOU'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED MULTIPLE TIMES.
SO I I'M, I I APOLOGIZE I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID.
FOR, UM, THE PROCESS TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY IN SOME DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UM, OF COURSE EVERYTHING OTHER THAN PUBLIC WORKS REALLY HAVE BEEN HAD AN INCREASE, WHICH WE NEED AND I SUPPORT THAT AGAIN, BUT WHEN WE GO INTO DIFFERENT STAFF POSITIONS INTO THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO FILL THAT DEPARTMENT TO WHERE, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET AN INCREASE IN HEADCOUNT REGARDLESS, BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY INCREASED EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST AT LEAST FIVE YEARS.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS AND EVERYTHING.
SO THAT WAS MY, HOW EFFICIENT ARE WE GOING TO BE? ARE WE GOING TO INTRODUCE MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE? BECAUSE I TALK ABOUT AI TO WHERE WE CAN DO A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE.
SO I HAVE DIFFERENT FOCUSES IN STAFFING TOO.
SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDER UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ARE, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE PRESENT ALTERNATIVES TO EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR SAY, POLICE FIRE? OH, TRUE.
SO WITHIN, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT WITHIN RIGHT.
SO OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS MM-HMM
OTHER ALTERNATIVES AREAS WHERE WE COULD CUT POSITIONS.
'CAUSE HONESTLY WE HAVE TO CUT POSITIONS TO SAVE MONEY.
BECAUSE WELL, I'M SORRY, BUT I, I MEAN AND THAT'S OR, OR NOT, ARE YOU SAYING DON'T ADD OR ARE YOU SAYING CUT? I'M THINKING THAT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE IN REGARDS TO MAYBE NOT HIRING AND THEN JUST RESTRUCTURING A POSITION TO WHERE IT'S EFFECTIVE
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AND IT, IT COULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE PROCESSING OF THAT DEPARTMENT.SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT AGAIN.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HARPING ON THAT FOR LIKE THREE YEARS NOW, SO.
WELL WE, WE CAN, IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR AREA IN MIND WE CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
ARE, ARE YOU SAYING IT IS THAT, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED AI AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT WOULD BE THAT AND MAYBE THERE'S OTHER AI OPPORTUNITIES AND, OKAY.
WELL, WELL WE CAN MAYBE WE CAN DIALOGUE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND AND, AND MAYBE GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING.
MAYBE WE CAN SET BRIAN, YOU WANNA YEAH, MAYBE TO CHIME IN.
'CAUSE I THINK I, I THINK YOUR POINTS WELL TAKEN AND PART OF IT MAYBE IS HOW MUCH OF A, UM, KIND OF A FOCUSED IDENTIFIED EFFORT WE'RE MAKING TO DO THAT HOLISTICALLY AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF DOING IT AD HOC.
SO LEMME GIVE YOU A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT AD HOC.
SO, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, UH, PART OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THEIR SOFTWARE PROGRAM IS THE, UH, THE VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TO GET THOSE.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE INSPECTOR HAS TO DRIVE OUT FROM WHEREVER HE IS TO THE LOCATION WALK AROUND, DO THE INSPECTION, AND THEN DRIVE BACK TO HIS NEXT SITE WITH THE VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS THAT WE CAN DO NOW.
RIGHT? THE INSPECTOR CAN SIT IN HIS VEHICLE, HE HAS HIS COMPUTER, HE HAS HIS TABLET AT WHATEVER JOB HE PHYSICALLY HAD TO BE AT.
SO FOR HIS NEXT INSPECTION, THERE'S A SET TIME FOR THAT.
THEY DIAL IN, IT'S ESSENTIALLY KIND OF A A, A ZOOM OR OR FACETIME KIND OF DEAL WHERE THEY GO THROUGH A LIST.
THE THE PERSON DOING THE WORK SHOWS THE THINGS THEY'RE TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT SET THINGS HE NEEDS TO LOOK AT TO VERIFY IT.
I THINK IT TAKES A RECORDING OF THAT, UH, VIDEO, DOESN'T IT? LISA TAKES A RECORDING, SO WE'VE GOT THE RECORD OF IT.
HE SITS THERE PUNCHES IN EITHER CHANGES ARE NEEDED OR THAT IT'S APPROVED AND THEN CLOSES OUT THE INSPECTION.
AND SO WHILE IT MAY SEEM LIKE A LITTLE THING THAT 10 MINUTES, THE INSPECTOR ISN'T DRIVING TO THE SITE AND THEN ISN'T DRIVING TO ANOTHER SITE THEY CAN USE TO GET IN ANOTHER INSPECTION.
AND SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE DOING.
AND I THINK WE STARTED OUT FAIRLY SMALL WITH THAT, SOME OF THE INSPECTIONS WE'RE DOING.
BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GROW TO THAT AS THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, RIGHT? AND SO THAT BECOMES A WAY THAT WE CAN KNOCK OUT MORE INSPECTIONS IN THE COURSE OF A DAY AND EITHER DON'T NEED TO GROW THE STAFF, OR IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY LEAVE, WE SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE CAN SHIFT THAT POSITION ELSEWHERE OR DO WITHOUT IT, OR WE'RE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH MONEY ON CONTRACT SUPPORT FOR OUR BUSY TIMES TO KNOCK IT OUT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU'VE GOT IT.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WITH PUBLIC WORKS ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH UPGRADING OUR SCADA SYSTEM, UH, ALLOWS US TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT OUR VARIOUS REMOTE SITES AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OCCURRING TO BETTER MONITOR THOSE AS OPPOSED IN THE PAST, WE WOULD'VE TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO CHECK THE SITE AND LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, JUST KIND OF AD HOC.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LET'S TAKE A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH, REALLY LOOK AT EVERYTHING, LOOK AT THOSE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE SEE, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN ADOPT TO GO FROM THERE.
AND THAT YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
I THINK THERE ARE EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION WHERE THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET MORE EFFICIENT.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS IN A GROWING COMMUNITY LIKE SHIRTS, YOU RECAPTURE CAPACITY BY GETTING MORE EFFICIENT IN AN AREA, AND THEN YOU CAN DO MORE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN.
'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF WHERE WE'VE ADDED POSITIONS, YOU NOTICE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEPARTMENT, THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT AREN'T ON HERE, BUT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED VOLUME GROWTH AS WELL, RIGHT? UH, CONSIDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS INTERNALLY, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN BETTER.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IN SOMETHING THAT I'VE DONE IN A PREVIOUS ORGANIZATION IS CALLED A LEAN PROGRAM, WHERE YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND YOU CAN DEVELOP A LEAN PROGRAM AND YOU CAN EXAMINE AREAS AND YOU CAN SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU CAN SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT A, A CERTAIN AREA AND RUN IT KIND OF THROUGH THAT LEAN PROCESS AND SEE WHERE YOU CAN MAKE EFFICIENCIES.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAME OUT.
THIS IS YEARS PAST, BUT WE SWITCHED FROM A MANUALLY READ METER SYSTEM, WATER METER SYSTEM, TO AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM.
WELL, I HAD 12 PEOPLE READING 11,000 METERS, RIGHT? OH, WELL, A COUPLE OF THOSE WERE PART-TIME, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, AFTER WE DID THAT, EVENTUALLY WE WERE ABLE TO CUT IT TO FIVE, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T LET PEOPLE GO, BUT WE DID IT THROUGH ATTRITION.
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AND WE WERE ABLE TO, AND WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY LEAN DOWN.THAT DEPARTMENT SAVED A TON OF MONEY.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE AUTOMATED READ HERE.
IT'S NOT A CANDIDATE, IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, OF WHERE YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN DO A PROCESS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS.
IT MAY COST YOU MONEY TO DO IT, BUT THEN YOU RECAPTURE ON ALL THE REVENUE YOU'RE LOSING FROM THE METERS THAT LEAK AND SLOW DOWN, ET CETERA.
AND THE EXTRA SALARY DOLLARS, YOU'RE SAYING IT MORE THAN PAID FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND IF, IF THERE'S A DESIRE BY THE COUNCIL TO, TO HAVE A MORE STRUCTURED AND HOLISTIC PROGRAM, LIKE BRIAN WAS JUST SAYING, THEN YEAH, SURE, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A, A LIEN COMMITTEE.
WE COULD EVEN PUT A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT IF YOU GOT THE TIME TO DO IT.
BUT IT IS A PRETTY INTENSIVE PROCESS.
YEAH, JUST TO COUNT, UM, TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF, UH, COUNCILWOMAN WATSON, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, UH, SOME TYPE OF PRESENTATION OF SHOWING EACH DEPARTMENT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, OPERATING BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UH, WORKLOAD DATA TO SHOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF BODIES THAT WE HAVE AND WE CAN SUPPORT IT BASED ON THESE NUMBERS.
YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I SAW CHIEF LOWERY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS AMAZING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M SOMETIMES STRUGGLING, LIKE, MAN, YOU KNOW, AS MANY CALLS AND THINGS THAT I SEE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW CAN HE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT WITH THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT HE HAS ON BOARD? YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE, WE NEED TO EVENTUALLY STRENGTHEN HIM UP A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST TO DO ALL THOSE CALLS AND THE RESPONSES THAT HE DOES AND ET CETERA, BASED ON THIS REPORT HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE DETAIL FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, OPERATING BUDGET PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE BODIES THAT WE NEED AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY SUPPORTING A DATA ANALYSIS TO SUPPORT THE BODIES NEEDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, AND HOWEVER WE GET THERE, RIGHT? SO IN A NUTSHELL, WE DO ESSENTIALLY A TARGET BASED BUDGET, RIGHT? AND REALLY THE FOCUS IS ON SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS OR ADDS TO THE BUDGET RATHER THAN TAKING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZERO BECAUSE ZERO BASED BUDGETING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, ARE WE REALLY GONNA STOP DOING FIRE SUPPRESSION? WELL, NO, WE'RE GONNA DO FIRE SUPPRESSION.
WE WANNA DO IT TO THE LEVEL WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT AT LEAST.
SO YOU REALLY, IT'S KIND OF A, A WASTED EXERCISE TO GO AND LOOK AT FIRE SUPPRESSION OR TO LOOK AT THE POLICE PATROL AND SEE IF YOU EVEN WANNA FUND THOSE.
SO OUR FOCUS TENDS TO BE ON THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS OR THE ADS TO EACH OF THE FUND.
WE DO HAVE, THERE IS MORE INFORMATION THAT BACKS THAT UP.
SO EACH DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY DO A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, THEY PUT THAT TYPE OF JUSTIFICATION IN THERE.
THEY TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED THESE THINGS.
SOME OF IT IS, UM, SOME OF IT IS MORE, UM, NON-TANGIBLE, RIGHT? BUT SOME OF IT IS DATA-DRIVEN.
I BELIEVE WE COULD PROVIDE THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT, IF WE DON'T ALREADY PROVIDE IT, I THINK WE COULD.
IS THAT JAMES? I THINK, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S, UH, REQUESTED, WE'RE MAKING, WE MADE A BIG PUSH THIS LAST YEAR IN THIS CURRENT 25, 26 BUDGET TO UPDATE OUR DEPARTMENT NARRATIVES AND TIE EACH DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY DO, UM, AND HOW THEY SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND PART OF THAT, THOSE STATEMENTS THAT WE'VE ADDED TO, THERE ARE, UM, MEASURES OF HOW WELL THEY'RE DOING.
AND WE HAVE THE ACTIVITY MEASURES IN EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER FUNDS IN EACH DEPARTMENT, WE'LL HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE, UH, WHAT THEY VALUE, HOW THEY SUPPORT STRATEGIC PLAN, WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS, HOW MUCH STAFF THEY HAVE.
AND THEN, UH, ACTIVITY MEASURES AND WORKLOAD MEASURES AND EFFECT EFFECTIVENESS MEASURES, UM, IN THERE.
SO IF, IF WE, IF WE, IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE CAN COME BACK WITH PRESENTATIONS.
I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, KIND OF WALKED, UH, DEPARTMENTS THROUGH.
WE HAVE SOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ON WHAT EVERYONE DOES AND WHAT ARE THE METRICS.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, WE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
UM, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA GO NEXT.
BUT IN THE BUDGET BOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET BOOK, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
THE NEW REVAMPED BUDGET BOOK THAT, UH, WON THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE, GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF US AND CANADA AWARD FOR PRESENTATION.
NEW AND HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION.
IT HAS SOME PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT IN IT, AND IT HAS LINKS TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, LIKE JAMES SAID.
ALSO, IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED, JAMES AND I ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SIT DOWN, WALK THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS, MAYBE POINT YOU IN SOME AREAS THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YET.
AND IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION YOU WANT THROUGHOUT THE, THE BUDGET PROCESS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
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IT'S THERE.WE JUST HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT FORWARD IN THE PAST.
BUT, AND ALSO YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF IT, OR IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, HEY, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, WE CAN SIMPLY PULL UP THAT ONE AND WE CAN LOOK THAT ONE.
HOWEVER Y'ALL WANNA APPROACH IT.
THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR BUDGET IN TERMS OF, UH, ADOPTING THE BUDGET.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STAFFING? GOOD.
SO NEW AND REMODELED FACILITIES.
SO AT THE TOP, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN PROGRESS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WAS OUT AT FIRE STATION FOUR FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING.
AND GREG, WE GOT A FOUNDATION YET.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE MOVING ALONG THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF THEIR FACILITY THAT'S ON FM 78.
AND IT IS SPACE THAT THEY'RE NOT USING RIGHT NOW.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PAY FOR THE BUILD OUT, AND THAT'LL BE IN OUR CIP, BUT IT'LL GIVE THEM SPACE THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE.
'CAUSE IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH SITTING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
AND SOME PEOPLE ARE IN CLOSET SIZE OFFICES.
THEY WAY OUTRUN THAT FACILITY.
SO THE INTENTION IS, IS TO BUILD THAT OUT.
WE GET FREE RENT FOR PROBABLY AROUND 10 YEARS, AND THEN REHAB, UH, REMODEL OVER THERE, MAKE SPACE FOR FOLKS.
AND THEN ALSO WE'RE DOING A LARGE HVAC REPLACEMENT, 700 AND CLOSE TO $800,000 IN REPLACEMENTS IN MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, INCLUDING THIS ONE THAT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK, YOU CAN'T HEAR, YOU CAN'T HEAR SOMEBODY TALKING, AND YOU CAN'T, THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU.
SO IT IS COMING FROM BOND FUNDS THAT WERE ISSUED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
HOW MANY YEARS AGO? 2001 MAYBE? UH, 2021.
SO IT WAS FROM A BOND ISSUANCE BACK IN 2021 FOR THIS PURPOSE.
AND WE'RE PUTTING IT, WE'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY NOW.
SO GOAL MOVING FORWARD IS THE BUILDING SIX REMODEL.
ONCE THEY GET OUT OF THERE AND GET OVER THERE, WE CAN REMODEL THAT SPACE.
AND THEN ALSO THE PARKS BUILDING.
IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE PARKS OFFICE, IT IS A WAREHOUSE AND IT'S VERY MAKESHIFT.
SO THE IDEA IS TO RENOVATE THAT OFFICE SPACE.
AND THEN IN BUILDING ONE, THE MUNICIPAL COURT, THERE HAS BEEN A PLAN FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW, TO MOVE THEM OUT OF THE COURT AND HAVE THEM UTILIZE THIS AREA FOR A COURT AND THEN REMODEL THAT SPACE OVER THERE.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE HORIZON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
IT'LL LIKELY REQUIRE A BOND ELECTION WHERE THE COMMUNITY VOTES ON IT TO, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A VERY LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND IT'S GONNA BE A LARGE FACILITY.
SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE HAVE EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? MUST DO, SHOULD DO.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THIS, EVEN IN YOUR PERSONAL LIVES, WE HAVE THIS, IT'S A PYRAMID ESSENTIALLY.
AND TYPICALLY, HOW DOES THIS FALL OUT? WELL, THAT LINE THAT REPRESENTS THE CUT LINE, IT'S WHERE YOU GOTTA CUT THINGS.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES ARE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
IT'S TYPICALLY IN THE, IN THE SOMEWHERE IN THE SHOULD DO.
HOPEFULLY YOU GET TO ALL THE MUST DOS IN A REALLY, REALLY BAD YEAR.
MAYBE YOU ONLY GET TO THE MUST DOS, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN PUSH A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN IN THE SHOULD DOS.
BRIAN ADDED AN ANIMATION FOR THIS.
BUT
YES, BRIAN DID PUT THIS TOGETHER, OF COURSE, AND JASON CORRESPONDINGLY HAD ONE THAT HE DID.
AND WE HAD A CONTEST AND BRIAN WON.
SO IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE, WE, WHEN WE PRIORITIZE, AND I, THIS IS THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT THE MUST DO, I MEAN, THE NICE TO DOS ARE TYPICALLY ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH OR ALMOST AS MUCH AS YOUR MUST DOS AND SHOULD DOS, RIGHT? IF YOU'LL REMEMBER IN THE GENERAL FUND, IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, THERE WERE HOW MANY REQUESTS, HOW MANY DOLLARS WORTH OF REQUESTS? IT WAS $6 MILLION.
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REQUESTS.AND HOW MUCH DID WE FUND JAMES? $3 MILLION.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THE TWI THE LIST IS TWICE AS LONG AS WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO FUND.
IT IS TWICE THE VALUE OF WHAT.
SO THE LIST IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE LONGER.
YOU'LL SEE THIS WHEN WE GET TO THE CIP.
YOU SEE THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
IT'S ALWAYS LONGER THAN THE THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS THE POINT AT WHICH I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JAMES, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR MAYOR, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK? IT'S 10 20.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 10 21.
AND WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TO HAVE A SEAT SO WE, THAT WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND RESUME THE MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND COME OUT AND RECESS AND RESUME THE MEETING.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
UH, WE'LL TAKE SIX MINUTES TO TAKE WHAT QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE.
EACH PERSON WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I'LL, I'LL, WE'LL ALL KIND OF JUMP IN HERE TO ANSWER IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC, SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO A DEPARTMENT.
YOU WANNA JUST INVITE 'EM UP ONE BY ONE? ALRIGHT.
I THINK COME ON UP IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS OR, OH, I'M, WHEN THE PHONE WANTS TO ACT TO US.
GENERALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY THAT TO THE ISSUE OF THE SURVEY, UH, THE SHIRTS MAGAZINE AS OUTLINED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IS REALLY A TREMENDOUS ASSET.
I READ IT FROM COVER TO COVER.
I TEAR OUT PAGES AND NOTES AND POST IT IN, UH, IN THE, UH, HALLWAY THERE.
IT SAYS THAT IT SERVES 43,000 RESIDENTS.
A CIRCULATION OF 16,000 COPIES REACHES OVER 60,000 PEOPLE.
AND THAT THE LATEST SURVEY PEOPLE ARE VERY SATISFIED WITH.
SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT TOOL THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU COULD INCLUDE THIS SURVEY IN.
IT WOULD BE A, UH, CARD STOCK PAGE IN THE MAGAZINE THAT YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS, YOU FOLDED IT IN HALF, IT WAS ALREADY PRE, PRE-ADDRESSED AND STAMPED AND THEY JUST HAVE TO DROP IT IN THE MAIL.
THAT WAY YOU KNOW THAT AT LEAST YOU SENT OUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR 16,000 RESPONSES.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE OTHER THING ON YOUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE THE USED VEHICLES, YOU JUST TYPICALLY TAKE 'EM TO A DEALER AND THEY GIVE YOU A TRADE IN.
WE HAVE A, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT AUCTION CLEARING HOUSES THAT ARE USED.
AND, AND THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT EVERYBODY USES.
WOULD THAT BE PUBLISHED IN SOMETHING LIKE THE SHIRTS MAGAZINE THAT, THAT WAS UPCOMING AND CITIZENS COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THAT? I WOULD THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, WE COULD ADVERTISE THAT BECAUSE THE OPTION, THE OPTION WOULD BE TO SAVE THE AUCTION HOUSE AND JUST DO LIKE THE GOVERNMENT DOES ON A SEAL BID, SEND IN YOUR BID.
THERE'S NO AUCTION, THERE'S NO NOTHING ELSE.
THERE'S NO SECOND CHANCES SEND IN YOUR BID BY 10 O'CLOCK TUESDAY MORNING OR WHATEVER, NOON.
THE WINNING BID PERSON PAYS FOR THE VEHICLE.
I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD END UP MAKING ONE TO $2,000 MORE PER VEHICLE THAT WAY THAN JUST GIVING IT TO THE, THE FOLKS THAT DO TRADE IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COME ON UP.
YOU CAN YELL IT FROM THERE, MR. SCHWART, OR YOU CAN THAT PERSON
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THANK YOU MORE INFORMATION.WELL, I WILL SAY THIS AND I GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO RESPOND, BUT OUR, OUR POLICE CHIEF DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EVALUATING DIFFERENT METRICS.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GENERALLY POINT OUT THAT OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE ADDED, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN RELATED TO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
THERE WAS A MANDATE BY THE STATE.
YES, YOU WERE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THERE WAS A MANDATE BY THE STATE TO PROVIDE AN ARMED SECURITY OFFICER IN EVERY SINGLE CAMPUS.
AND SO A LOT OF THAT EFFORT HAS BEEN TO ASSIST SCUC WITH MEETING THAT MANDATE.
AND HONESTLY, THE IMPACT TO OUR BUDGET WAS MINIMAL.
'CAUSE ROUGHLY 86% OF ALL THOSE POSITIONS, OR 86% OF THOSE POSITIONS AND THE EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH 'EM, LIKE THEIR PATROL VEHICLE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PAYING FOR.
SO, SO IF YOU LOOKED AT IT IN THE SCOPE OF THINGS OVER THE SIX YEARS, WE REALLY HAVEN'T ADDED THAT MANY REALLY HADN'T ADDED MUCH TO POLICE AT ALL.
SINCE MAY OF 2021, WE'VE ADDED FIVE ADDITIONAL, UH, SROS PER THE HOUSE BILL THREE AND WE'VE UH, HAVE NOT ADDED ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AT THE LEVEL THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
BUT BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FILL VACANCIES AT THE TIME, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO GIVE ME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, I COULDN'T FILL 'EM RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN START TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE ARE, UH, RECOGNIZED AS THE SAFETY CITY IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA.
I DO BELIEVE THAT IS A REFLECTION OF NOT JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WE DO HAVE AN, AN INDICATION THAT CRIME IS STARTING TO INCREASE.
AND THAT'S INDICATED IN AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT I JUST PRODUCED AND THAT I WILL BE SHARING WITH THE PUBLIC.
SO IF WE WANNA MAINTAIN THOSE SERVICES, WE MAY HAVE TO INCREASE PERSONNEL A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE IN A STRATEGIC LOCATION FOR PATROL.
SO WE CAN KEEP THOSE OFFICERS ON THE STREET.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR, UH, INCREASES IN OUR PERSONNEL.
AND BY NO MEANS IS THIS THE END OF THE ROAD FOR PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO US, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE THE DOOR AFTER THIS MEETING AND NOT LISTEN.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, YOU THINK COUNCIL, AND I'M SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AND YOU HAVE AN IDEA, A THOUGHT ON SOMETHING, BRING IT TO US AND WE WILL CONSIDER IT IN THE PROCESS.
I WILL EXPLAIN THE BUDGET PROCESS A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? SO BUDGET IS A 12, 12 MONTH CYCLE.
IT'S ONGOING AND YOU HAVE VARIOUS PHASES.
WE ARE IN WHAT'S CALLED THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PHASE, RIGHT? AND WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT $150 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET AND ANOTHER A HUNDRED AND WHATEVER MILLION FOR THE, THE ANOTHER 140 MILLION FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH IS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT ARE DETAILED.
WE ARE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME MAKING PROJECTIONS FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
RIGHT? AND IF YOU MAKE A PROJECTION NOW AND YOU START MAKING DECISIONS ON SAY, SALES TAX OR PERMITS OR THINGS THAT TEND TO FLUCTUATE, IF YOU START RELYING ON, IF YOU DO A PROJECTION NOW BUILD A BUDGET, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT'LL CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
SO THAT'LL CONTINUALLY BE UPDATED.
A BIG COMPONENT FOR OUR LARGEST
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FUND, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND, IS THE PROPERTY TAX.HOW MUCH? 20%, 22% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES COME FROM PROPERTY TAX, RIGHT? SO IT'S A GOOD CHUNK THAT AND SALES TAX MAKE UP THE BIGGEST PORTION OF WHAT WE GET IN TERMS OF FUNDING OUR GENERAL FUND, WE DON'T GET THAT NUMBER UNTIL JULY 25TH.
WE GET A PRELIMINARY IN MAY, BUT THE PRELIMINARY CANNOT BE RELIED ON BECAUSE THERE ARE PROTESTS, THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL DO.
THERE'S THINGS THAT THE STATE DOES.
JAMES IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DISABLED VETERAN HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND HOW THAT IMPACTS US AS A COMMUNITY.
WE'RE VERY UNIQUE AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT ALMOST ALL OTHER COMMUNITIES, EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 14 OF US DON'T FACE, BUT WE DO HERE.
AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR PROPERTY TAX PROJECTIONS.
SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN EARLY TO KIND OF LOOK AT AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PLAN THINGS OUT.
BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW UNTIL THAT PRETTY MUCH THE END OF JULY.
THAT'S WHY THAT THAT, UM, THAT'S WHY THAT THAT WORKSHOP IS HERE ON THE SEVENTH.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES AFTER THAT THAT ARE AT A COUNCILS MEETING.
AND TO YOUR POINT, IS THERE, THEY'RE MORE ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE EVENING.
IT'S DURING A COUNCIL MEETING, IT'S A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION.
IT'S NOT HOURS AND HOURS LONG, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A RESIDENT TO COME AND SPEAK OR FOR THE COUNCIL TO INTERACT.
AND WE HAVE PENDING ONES THAT IF WE NEED THEM, DO WE HAVE DATES? WE HAVE DATES ON THE CALENDAR.
I GUESS IF WE NEED AN, AN ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP THAT'S BEEN ASKED FOR, WE CAN ADD THOSE AND WE CAN MEET AS FREQUENTLY OR AS INFREQUENTLY AS YOU LIKE.
AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF DOING THIS ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES.
AND FINDING A TIME AND A DAY IS DIFFICULT.
THAT'S WHY FOR THE LAST, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, I'LL RELY ON BRIAN AND SARAH THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.
I THINK THESE DAYS IN MARCH AND IN AUGUST HAVE BEEN THE WAY IT IS FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A TIME THAT WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
SO IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES CHANGING THAT OR DOING A DIFFERENT FORM, WE ARE NOT MARRIED TO ANY PARTICULAR TIME OF DATE.
BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL 'CAUSE IT IS YOUR MEETING.
SCHWART, WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED OUR TIME TO RECEIVE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS, SIR.
AND WHEN WE'RE DONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE ON.
I WILL JUMP BACK DOWN TO THAT PAGE AND THIS IS WHERE I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JAMES AND HE IS GONNA WALK THROUGH SOME MORE FINER DETAILS ON THE FINANCES.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR HERE FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
I'M GONNA TOUCH ON OUR CURRENT STATUS UPDATE FOR OUR YEAREND PROJECTIONS AS THEY ARE TODAY.
AS WELL AS WALK THROUGH SOME OTHER IMPLICATIONS ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND, AND KEEP IN OUR MINDS GOING FORWARD INTO THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
SO FOR 25, 26, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE A LITTLE BIT BELOW TARGET.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THEM IN A MOMENT.
OUR SALES TAXES, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THOSE, UH, BOTH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, AS WELL AS EARLIER TODAY.
WE ARE, UH, A SMIDGE OVER BUDGET ON OUR SALES TAXES, UH, JUST, JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WE'LL GO ONTO THOSE, UH, FRANCHISE FEES, UH, WE'RE ON TARGET FOR THOSE PERMANENT FEES.
RESIDENTIAL ARE COMING ABOVE TARGET AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET THROUGH SOME, UH, BUSY CONSTRUCTION TIME.
SO WE MAY HAVE SOME GOOD, UH, EVEN FURTHER GOOD NEWS THERE AS THE NEXT MONTH'S ROLLOUT.
UH, PERMANENT FEES COMMERCIAL SLIGHTLY BELOW TARGET RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT THOSE ARE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN WE GET A BIG PROJECT COME IN AND WHEN THEY TURN AROUND AND, UH, ACTUALLY MAKE THE PAYMENT TO START MOVING ON A, ON A SITE.
UH, SERVICE FEES AND FINES, WE'RE ON TARGET FOR THOSE AS WELL.
AND OUR INVESTMENT INCOME IS ABOVE TARGET.
WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THE FEDERAL RESERVE WAS GONNA LOWER THE RATES A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY AND THEY'VE KIND OF DELAYED THAT.
UH, SO WHICH ACTUALLY HELPS OUR INVESTMENT INCOME AND HOW MUCH WE CAN BRING IN.
BUT RIGHT NOW OUR REVENUES ARE LOOKING ABOUT $11 MILLION OVER WHAT WE HAD, UH, OR PROJECTED FOR THIS 25, 26 BUDGET.
UH, EXPENDITURES RIGHT NOW ARE ON TARGET FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS, UH, SUPPLIES AND CONTRACTUAL AND CAPITAL ARE ON TARGET.
UH, IF ANYTHING, MAJOR CHANGES THERE IN THE NEXT, UH, FEW MONTHS AS WE KIND OF BRIDGE THAT HALFWAY GAP AND CLOSE ON THE FINAL.
WE'LL MAKE SOME UPDATES WHENEVER WE PRESENT THE BUDGET TO COUNCIL.
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OVERALL, OUR FUND BALANCE IS ABOUT $9 MILLION ABOVE TARGET.YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 11 AND NINE.
WE HAVE PROJECTED TO REDUCE OUR FUND BALANCE BY ABOUT $2 MILLION THIS YEAR.
UM, SO INSTEAD WE MAY BE INCREASING AT 9 MILLION.
JAMES, CAN I EMPHASIZE ONE THING? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SALES TAX AND WHY WE'RE OVER, IT DEALS WITH ONE TAXPAYER.
SO WE DON'T MEAN TO BE CRY CRYPTIC ABOUT THE INFORMATION, BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHARE THAT PER STATE LAW.
WE CAN'T DISCUSS IN DETAIL THAT TAXPAYER.
SO I I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE ARE TALKING AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT.
WE'LL GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS IN IN GENERAL, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT TAXPAYER.
CAN YOU GO OVER THE RESTATEMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND AND BREAK IT DOWN THE 1.9? YEAH, THE RESTATEMENT IN THE, UH, THE ACT FOR WERE, UH, THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT WERE DUE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, ONE WAS WE HAD TO IMPLEMENT A NEW GASB THIS YEAR, GSB 1 0 1, WHICH CAUSED US TO GO BACK A YEAR AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO A PREVIOUS, UM, AUDIT, UH, AND FINANCIAL REPORT.
UM, SO THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT.
THE OTHER ONE WERE SOME CAPITAL ITEMS THAT WERE EXPENSED, UH, BUT NEEDED TO PUT INTO THE CORRECT ACCOUNT.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF IN, IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY WERE DONE.
AND SO WE MOVED 'EM OVER TO THE FINALIZED AREA AND STARTED TO, UH, DEPRECIATE THOSE.
IT WAS MOVING IT FROM ONE ASSET TO ACCOUNT TO ANOTHER ASSET ACCOUNT.
AND JAMES, JUST FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE FAMILIAR, GASB IS THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD.
SO YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE FAF, THE FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING FOUNDATION, AND UNDERNEATH THAT YOU HAVE GASB, WHICH REGULATES ALL OF GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE FS B AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, CORPORATE ACCOUNTING, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS DIFFERENCE IN ACCOUNTING, UH, JUST 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE THROWING OUT A LOT, A LOT OF ACRONYMS, BUT TO, TO KIND OF SPELL THAT OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING QUESTION.
SO THERE'S, UH, IN REVENUES WE'RE GETTING UP TO 11 MILLION ACCORDING TO THAT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES IS 9 MILLION? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S NO, OUR EXPENDITURES, UH, THIS IS LIKE, ARE WE OVER AND HOW MUCH WE'RE OVER OR IF WE'RE UNDER, HOW MUCH WE'RE UNDER REVENUES ARE COMING IN $11 MILLION OVER WHAT WE THOUGHT EXPENDITURES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEING CONSERVATIVE AND SAYING, UH, THEY'RE EVEN, UH, THEY'LL PROBABLY COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS WE REALIZE SAVINGS AS, UH, THE YEAR CLOSE CONCLUDES.
WHAT WE GONNA DO WITH THAT ARE WE, WERE THE BUDGET WAS PLANNING TO DECREASE THE FUND BALANCE INSTEAD.
WE'LL PROBABLY INCREASE THE FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT PRIORITIES.
YOU UH, YOU GUYS STATED IT WAS 1.17 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN WE CAN INCREASE THIS? YES, THAT CAN, THAT'S EVEN THAT WAS JUST FOR STREETS AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT OF IT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER 53 MILLION FOR STREETS IN THE CIP, SO $54 MILLION.
SO WE, SO BUT WE CAN INCREASE THIS FOR, FOR MAINTENANCE, CORRECT? FOR THE PRIORITIES.
OH, IN TERMS OF WITH THAT EXCESS FUND BALANCE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THERE IS, UM, NO RESTRICTIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND ON THE SALES TAX PORTION OF OUR INCOME.
SO WITH THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDS STAFF WILL BE PREPARING PROPOSALS TO COUNSEL DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ON, UH, THE BEST PLACES TO PUT THOSE FUNDS.
OF COURSE, PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS KIND OF GETTING THOSE PRIORITIES FROM COUNCIL SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE THOSE PRIORITIES IN THOSE LISTS, WE PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING THAT SHOULD MATCH UP TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
AND OF COURSE, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO GO, NOPE, WE MISSED THE MARK THERE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT AROUND AS A COUNCIL ACTION.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.
AND JAMES, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA TOUCH ON IT LATER, BUT MAYBE WORTH TO MENTION RIGHT NOW, JUST KIND OF ONE TIME VERSUS RECURRING EXPENSES.
AND, AND I GUESS SARAH MENTIONED WE'LL TOUCH ON AS WELL AND WHAT I'VE MENTIONED IN THE MEMO TO COUNCIL ON THE SALES TAXES, THIS SALES TAX INCREASE THAT WE, THAT WE'RE GETTING, WE WILL NOT CONTINUE IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
THE ENTITIES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS INCREASE ARE GOING TO CHANGE HOW THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING IN OUR CITY.
AND THOSE SALES TAXES WILL GO AWAY.
WE'LL GO BACK DOWN TO OUR NORMAL TREND.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE DON'T WANNA COMMEND ANY ONGOING EXPENSE CHANGES LIKE, HEY, WE GOT $30 MILLION, LET'S THROW IT ALL IN THE PERSONNEL AND HIRE, UH, DOUBLE OUR STAFF.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS GONNA RECOMMEND.
AND MY POINT IS, IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING, I WANNA MOVE
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MORE MONEY TO THE, THE PRIORITIES FOR MAINTENANCE.YEAH, AND DEFINITELY WE HEAR YOU.
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, THIS IS WHAT WE SHOWED LAST YEAR, UM, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, I'VE UPDATED IT BASED ON THE, UM, 2025, HOW WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR AS WELL AS WHERE OUR PROJECTIONS ARE FOR THE 2026, OUR CURRENT YEAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE THAN WE THOUGHT.
JUST THE SMIDGE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE SALES TAXES COME IN.
THE BIG PORTION HERE IS WE HAVE CONTACTED THOSE FOLKS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SALES TAX INCREASE.
WE'VE TALKED TO THEM, UM, AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT THOSE AMOUNTS WILL STOP.
THEY DO BELONG TO SHIRTS, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THEY WILL STOP.
SO WHEN THEY STOP LATER THIS YEAR, OUR SALES TAX ANNUAL INCOME IS GONNA DROP BACK DOWN.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THIS YEAR.
NOW THE DOTTED LINE IS OUR TARGET FUND BALANCE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, ORDINANCE 17 M 34, WHICH STATES THE CITY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN A 26% FUND BALANCE LEVEL, JUST 26% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES.
THAT IS A COUNCIL DIRECTIVE THAT'S STATED IN AN ORDINANCE.
SO ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE OVER THAT 26% TARGET STAFF WILL BE PROPOSING A GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT SHOWS THE DEFICIT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES.
LIKE, IF YOU'RE OVER 26%, YOU GOTTA GET THAT DOWN TO 26%.
IF YOU'RE ON TARGET OR BELOW 26%, YOU NEED TO PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT IS POSITIVE AND RAISE THAT PHONE BALANCE LEVEL BACK UP.
SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH IS TRYING TO GET THAT DOWN TO THAT 26% TARGET, THIS BLACK LINE, WE'VE BEEN NARROWING THE GAP FOR A FEW YEARS, AND HONESTLY, WITHOUT THE SALES TAX INCREASE, WE WOULD'VE HIT OUR TARGET AFTER MANY YEARS OF TRYING TO GET DOWN TO THERE.
UM, AND THEN YOU START SEEING A PROPOSED BUDGET WITH A POSITIVE FUND BALANCE INCREASE.
HOWEVER, WITH THE TWO INCREASES IN SALES TAX, THAT FUND BALANCE HAS JUMPED UP HERE.
SO WE WILL BE PROPOSING AS, UM, MR. BUREAU HAD MENTIONED WHAT WE GONNA DO WITH THIS EXCESS FUND BALANCE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSE TO COUNCIL.
OBVIOUSLY STREET MAINTENANCE IS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
UM, BUT THE GOAL IS THAT STARTING IN 2027, YOU'LL SEE THAT FUND BALANCE DROP BACK DOWN TO OUR TARGET, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST THAT, UH, MATCHING REOCCURRING REVENUES AND REOCCURRING EXPENSES SO THAT WE RIDE THAT LINE AS REQUIRED BY THAT ORDINANCE.
AND JAMES, IT MIGHT BE WORTH, UH, TAKING JUST A SECOND HERE TO EXPLAIN THE PHILOSOPHY ON, ON WHAT YOU WOULD USE THAT FOR.
SO CONSIDER HAVING CASH THAT YOU CAN USE FOR ANYTHING ALL THE WAY UP TO A BOND THAT'S, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S A WHOLE STRATA IN BETWEEN THAT THIS IS THE MOST LIQUID AND THE, THE THE EASIEST TO SPEND THING.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO TARGET YOUR CASH FOR ARE SMALLER CAPITAL ITEMS. ONE TIME EXPENDITURES, LIKE JAMES SAID THAT.
AND THEN YOU RESERVE YOUR BIGGER, IF YOU'VE GOT A $20 MILLION STREET, LET'S SAY LOWER SEIN AND IT'S $17 MILLION OR $22 MILLION, WHATEVER, IT'S, YOU WANNA USE A BOND FOR THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE POLICE RADIOS OR YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE BODY-WORN CAMERAS, OR YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE, UH, SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE, THOSE ARE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THIS TYPE OF MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT, OR IF YOU WANNA CREATE A VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND AND, AND FUND ALL YOUR, YOUR PREVIOUSLY INCURRED DEPRECIATION, THESE ARE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING BACK A LIST OF THINGS OF THESE ONE TIME TYPE THINGS OR EVEN MAYBE, UH, THERE'LL BE MORE.
BUT IF YOU, IF Y'ALL HAVE PRIORITIES AND IDEAS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET WITH THAT KIND OF MINDSET IN MIND.
AND STREET MAINTENANCE IS A VERY GOOD ONE.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S ON OUR PRIORITIES LIST OF THE FIVE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DUMPED A BUNCH OF MONEY INTO OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO TO GET DONE.
SO THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM Y'ALL.
SO SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, CONTINUING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REVENUE HERE IS THE, UM, 26 REVENUE BUDGET ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND THE PROJECTIONS, CURRENT PROJECTIONS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, SHOWING THAT, UM, UH, $11 MILLION INCREASE OVER HERE, UH, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SALES TAXES WHERE WE THOUGHT WE'D BE WITHOUT THE, UH, ENTITIES, UH, CONTRIBUTING THOSE ONE TIME SALES TAXES VERSUS WHERE WE'LL THINK WE'LL BE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND SALES TAXES TAKE THAT BIG OLD JUMP, UM, TAKING THAT MUCH LARGER PIECE OF THE PIE FOR THESE FOR THIS YEAR.
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AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, YEAH, SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAXES NORMALLY ABOUT 41%, UH, CURRENTLY THIS YEAR WITH ALL THE SALES TAX DROPS AT 31%, NOT THE 20 THAT WAS, UH, WE THREW OUT EARLIER, BUT YOU COULD SEE THE OTHER FEES AND FINES ABOUT 7% EVEN OVER HERE.PERMITS FEES, FINES ABOUT 10% AND FUND CHARGES AND A JURISDICTIONAL FOUR AND 7%.
UH, INVESTMENTS OF MISCELLANEOUS INCOME, ABOUT 4% AS WELL, FRANCHISE 5%.
SO ONLY ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR, UH, OVERALL FUND IS, IS NON, UM, SALES TAX OR PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS A STANDARD, UH, CONTRIBUTION OR STANDARD STRUCTURE FOR A GENERAL FUND GOVERNMENT.
SO I DID WANT TO, WE DID WANNA TOUCH ON DBHS AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE SALE VETERAN HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND THEIR CURRENT IMPACT ON THE CITY OF CHURCH'S GENERAL FUND.
AND, UH, INS FUND, OUR BOND FUND.
SO THE, UH, DVHS CONTINUES TO INCREASE, AS WE MENTIONED, LAST IN TIME AT COUNCIL.
WE'VE GOT SOME UPDATED NUMBERS FOR THE 2025 YEAR.
UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE TO 2025, THE TOTAL EXEMPT PROPERTY UNDER THIS EXEMPTION IS $1.1 BILLION.
THIS IS A STATE EXEMPTION THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE.
THAT WOULD MEAN $5.6 MILLION OF TAXES THAT WE DON'T HAVE DUE TO THIS EXEMPTION, THE TAX RATE EFFECTIVELY HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EXEMPTION, WE HAVE A CURRENT TAX RATE OF 0.5118.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS EXEMPTION, WE COULD RAISE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE WITH ONLY A 40 60 TAX RATE.
SO THIS IS LIKE OUR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE'RE ACTUALLY GENERATING ON, UH, PROPERTIES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS OTHER LINE, WE, WE, WE ADDED, THIS WASN'T ON THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WITH THE LAST BUDGET, BUT THE PERCENT OF THE DVHS TO THE OVERALL TAX BASE, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S GROWING.
SO BECAUSE IT'S GROWING, IT MEANS IT'S GROWING FASTER THAN OUR TAXABLE PROPERTY GROWS HERE IN THE CITY OF SHIRTZ.
UM, USUALLY ABOUT ONE TO 2% A YEAR.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT CONSISTENTLY SINCE, SINCE INCEPTION.
SO THIS, THESE STATS DID NOT CHANGE WHEN I LOOKED AT 'EM.
23% OF HOMESTEADS HAVE A DVH EXEMPTION FOR THE 2025 TAX YEAR.
THAT'S BASICALLY ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR HOMES.
55 OR ONE OUT OF EVERY TWO HOMESTEADS HAVE SOME SORT OF DISABLED VETERAN EXEMPTION.
UH, THAT GIVES 'EM A, A, A PORTION OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
SO JAMES, I I THINK IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SAY HERE THAT OUR NUMBER ONE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY AS A COMMUNITY THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL IS TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASK THEM TO FUND WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD FUND WHEN THEY CREATED THIS.
THE PROBLEM LIES WITH, AND QUITE FRANKLY I'M GONNA LAY THE BLAME ON OUR LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW, IS THAT THEY ARE NOT FUNDING SOMETHING THAT THEY PUT INTO PLACE THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD FUND.
WE ARE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND GET THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DOWN TO A REASONABLE AMOUNT.
AND IF THEY WILL KICK IN AND, AND DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO, WE CAN LOWER THE TAX RATE AND TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OUR RESIDENTS.
I TOTALLY, I TOTALLY AGREE BECAUSE IF, IF WE WERE TO GET THIS MONEY, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE.
WELL, I THINK YOU'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHERE IT NATURALLY WOULD BE, RIGHT? RATHER THAN ELEVATE.
WELL, JAMES IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE IT'S ELEVATED BECAUSE OF THIS.
SO IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE STATE DID NOT CHANGE THE FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THEIR AID PROGRAM.
SO THEY DO HAVE AN AID PROGRAM, UH, FOR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DIS APPROPRIATELY AFFECTED BY THIS EXEMPTION.
SO THEORETICALLY WE COULD GO TO THE STATE AND GO, HEY, WE HAVE THIS HIGH CONCENTRATION OF EXEMPTIONS AND THEY GO, OH, WE'RE SORRY, WE ANTICIPATED THIS.
UH, WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
UH, HERE IS A CHECK TO KIND OF MAKE YOU WHOLE MORE OR LESS.
UM, AND WE, EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE.
HOWEVER, THIS YEAR THEY DID NOT CHANGE THE EIGHT AMOUNT AND ACTUALLY THEY ADDED THE ABILITY FOR THREE, UH, NEW ENTITIES.
YEAH, THREE NEW ENTITIES TO GET IN THAT WEREN'T PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED INTO THE PROGRAM.
UH, SO I'M GONNA SKIP TO THIS THIRD BULLET POINT ACTUALLY.
SO THE 2025 PROGRAM HAD THREE NEW ENTITIES, UH, FOUR NEW ENTITIES IN 2016.
SO IN 2016, THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF AID FROM THE, UH, FOR THE STATE FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS $3.2 MILLION.
THE STATE BUDGET HAD $2.5 MILLION, NOT TOO BAD, MAYBE 66%, AT LEAST THEY WERE ABLE TO FUND OVER HALF, BUT A MILLION DOLLARS, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACT.
IN 2025, THERE WERE 12 ENTITIES AND THEY REQUESTED $54 MILLION BASED ON THE STATE
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CALCULATION.AND THE STATE BUDGET HAD ONLY GROWN TO NINE AND A HALF MILLION.
THAT NINE POINT A HALF MILLION WILL CON, UH, CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
UM, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF AID THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES WITH A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF THIS, UH, EXEMPTION, UH, HAVE.
SO HOW DO OTHER CITIES WITH THIS HIGH DBH CONCENTRATION, THEY TEND TO HAVE HIGHER TAX RATES TO COMPENSATE FOR THE REVENUE LOSS? UH, SO CITY OF SHORTS, I MENTIONED THE PREVIOUS SLIDE COULD HAVE A TAX RATE OF 40 60.
UH, WITHOUT THAT, SOME OF THESE OTHER ENTITIES, EL PASO CLEAN TEMPLE, EVEN COPPERS COVE, HAVE TAX RATES OVER 60 CENTS WITH EL PASO HAVING SOMEONE OVER 70 CENTS.
UM, EVEN UNIVERSAL CITY AND FAIR OAKS RANCH, WHICH ARE AFFECTED BY THIS TO SOME EXTENT, UH, BUT ALBEIT AT A MUCH LOWER LEVEL BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALLER.
UM, FEDERAL OAK RANCH IS A PRETTY GOOD SPOT.
UNIVERSITY CITY IS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.
I'M SORRY, E EXPLAIN THAT THIS IS A YEAR PRIOR.
SO I, I DID USE THE TAX YEAR 2024 WAS THE YEAR PRIOR, SO WE CAN GET ALL THE, THE UPDATED INFORMATION.
BUT UH, THE AVERAGE TAX RATE IN THE CITY OF SHE OR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR PROPERTY TAXES IS ABOUT 50 51 CENTS.
SO OVERALL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THE AVERAGE TAX RATE STATEWIDE.
UM, HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT $5 MILLION FROM THE DVHS.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY AT EFFECTIVELY OF 40 CENTS.
UH, OTHER ENTITIES HAVE OPTED TO GO UP.
WE'VE KIND OF OPTED TO KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF TAX RATE, UH, OVER TIME, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE DBHS HAS CONTINUED TO GROW.
SO FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTS PORTION IN 2025, WE REQUESTED $3.9 MILLION AND WE RECEIVED 690,000.
SO WE COULD HAVE RECEIVED UP TO $3.9 MILLION IN STATE AID OR RELIEF FROM THIS PROGRAM.
THE REQUEST THAT WE JUST SUBMITTED WAS $4.6 MILLION FOR THE CURRENT YEAR AMOUNTS RECEIVED PENDING.
WE'LL KNOW ABOUT THAT IN A COUPLE MONTHS AND WE'LL SHARE WITH COUNSEL AND EVERYONE, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT IN TO SEE WHAT WE GET.
OBVIOUSLY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE DID NOT GO UP AND THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE MORE PEOPLE THAT COULD BE, UH, APPLYING OR THREE MORE ENTITIES, WHICH WOULD MEAN OUR $690,000 WOULD DROP AS WELL.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'VE STARTED TO SEE LAST YEAR IS, UH, RETROACTIVE DVHS ADJUSTMENTS.
SO THIS IS GIVING FOLKS THAT ARE APPLYING NOW FOR THE PROGRAM AND THEY ARE JUST GOING, HEY, YOU ACTUALLY QUALIFIED THREE YEARS AGO, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT EXEMPTION EFFECTIVE THREE YEARS AGO AND HERE'S A CHECK FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS OF PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU WILL NO LONGER PAY GOING FORWARD.
SO WE STARTED SEEING, UH, UH, SOME DECREASE IN OUR, WE WE WEREN'T COLLECTING ENOUGH FOR OUR CURRENT PROPERTY TAX, UH, LEVEL IN, IN 2025 AND WE STARTED SEEING A LOT OF, UH, WHAT ON THE REPORTS IS DELINQUENT, WHICH WAS PAST TAX BILLS.
UM, STARTED GIVING A LOT OF REFUNDS.
UH, BUT WE ASKED ABOUT THAT FROM OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR OVER IN GUPA COUNTY.
WE GOT THE, THE RESPONSE BACK, THE, UH, ENTITY OR THE INDIVIDUALS STARTED TO RECEIVE A-D-V-H-S EXEMPTION AND MADE IT RETROACTIVE.
SO IT'S LIKE THESE PEOPLE, UH, WERE APPLYING AND GETTING IT AND THEY POSTED IT BACK AND SO THEY GOT SOME, SOME RELIEF.
UM, JUDGING FROM WE'RE AT THIS YEAR, WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THAT TRENDS AS ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS GET AWARDED THIS, UH, EXEMPTION AND IT'S MADE RETROACTIVE.
SO WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE ABOUT A $675,000 LOWER IN OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, UH, THAN WE HAD BUDGETED.
AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED IT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
I SAID, OH, PROPERTY TAX IS A LITTLE BIT BELOW TARGET.
UM, THIS IS THE REASON, UH, WHY IT'S NOT AFFECTING US THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OR THE SALES TAXES KIND OF COVERING IT.
IT'LL MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS GOING FORWARD TO THIS COMING BUDGET.
'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE A TWO YEARS IN A ROW OR LIKE, HEY, MAYBE IT WAS JUST, HEY, THEY'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP AND THEY HAD A BACKLOG.
UM, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THAT.
SO UNTIL WE SEE THE TRENDS CHANGE, WE'LL MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENT PROPOSALS FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
UM, I DO LIKE TO SAY THAT STAFF AND THE CITY, UM, THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM FOR OUR DISABLED VETERANS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT DISCONTINUING THE PROGRAM OR TRYING TO FIGHT AND HAVE THE PROGRAM REMOVED.
THIS IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO, UH, VETERANS THAT COME OUT OF THE SERVICE, UH, WITH A DISABILITY.
THE ONLY THING STAFF IS ASKING FOR AND THE CITY IS ASKING FOR IS THE STATE TO FUND THE AID PROGRAM, THE RELIEF PROGRAM ADEQUATELY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANT.
I KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DVHS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO COME UP.
UM, THIS IS NOT SAYING THIS, VETERANS DO NOT DESERVE EVERYTHING THEY'RE GETTING AND MORE, IT'S SIMPLY THE STATE NEEDS TO FUND THE PROGRAM.
AND JAMES, IF I MAY, UM, SO AS STEVE MENTIONED, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.
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NOW, UM, WITH THIS BEING NUMBER ONE.AND SO AS YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST COUPLE YEAR OR PAST COUPLE SESSIONS, RIGHT, WE'VE MADE SOME HEADWAY.
UM, BUT PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN THIS SITUATION LIKE US.
AND SO IT'S HARD TO REALLY GET THIS TO RISE TO A LEVEL OF PRIORITY FOR OUR, UM, OUR LEGISLATORS.
BUT WE'LL KEEP TRYING AND SO WE'LL ALSO BRING FORWARD KIND OF WAYS THAT THAT COUNCIL CAN HELP AND THEN IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO HELP AS WELL.
SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
UM, AND PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN CASE WE DIDN'T SAY IT.
DISABLED VETERANS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
OH, SORRY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE.
SO I'M GONNA BACKTRACK TO THE SALES TAXES A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SALES TAX COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN VERY HIGH SINCE MARCH 20, 25.
TOTAL ESTIMATES CONSERVATIVELY ABOUT $20 MILLION ADDITIONAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
WERE STILL KIND OF TRENDING ON THAT LEVEL, UH, BASED ON CERTAIN COMPANIES OPERATIONS.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A LIMITED TIME BUMP AND WE'LL GO BACK DOWN BY THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2026.
UM, ACCORDING TO THOSE ENTITIES WE TALKED TO, UM, AND WE HAVE MENTIONED STAFF MANAGER TO REACH OUT AND CONFIRM ADDITIONAL SALES TAXES.
UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST COUNCIL ON, HEY, SALES TAX, WHAT'S GOING ON? HOW DO YOU TRACK IT? HOW DO YOU VERIFY IT? UH, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, STAFF CAN KNOW WHEN A NEW ENTITY IS COMING ONLINE AND SOME ADDITIONAL SALES TAXES ARE GONNA BE, UM, UH, GENERATED.
IF IT'S A NEW CONSTRUCTION, USUALLY A LARGE PERMIT, EVERYONE KIND OF KNOWS WHO THEY ARE.
AND WE'LL GET A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH SALES TAX CAN BE RAISED BY THOSE KIND OF BUSINESSES.
AND WE'LL PUT THAT INTO OUR PROJECTIONS AND OUR BUDGET.
UM, UH, OTHER TIMES WE'LL HAVE, UM, UM, OTHER KIND OF PERMITS CONSTRUCTION RELATED.
IT MAY NOT BE A HIGH GENERATOR, BUT MAYBE IT'S DOING, DOING A LOT OF RENOVATIONS.
AND SO THERE'LL BE ONE TIME INCREASES.
SO, UH, BIG CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS ARE USUALLY ONE TIME INCREASES IN SALES TAX.
EVERYONE'S BUYING A BUNCH OF HIGH DOLLAR MATERIALS TO BUILD THIS BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION'S OVER AND IT KIND OF DROPS BACK DOWN.
UM, THIS WAS A, AGAIN, A VERY UNIQUE CASE.
UH, THE FIRST TIME WE SEE A BUMP, STAFF GOES, OH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY AN ADJUSTMENT.
MAYBE SOMEONE WAS A MISAPPLIED AND THEY WERE, UH, SENDING US MONEY BACK.
MAYBE IT WAS A BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN CAN WE CONTINUE ON? WE CONTINUED TO SEE IT.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE GOING, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE A BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING KIND OF COME THROUGH.
UH, SO IT WAS KIND OF SKETCH AND SURPRISE, SURPRISE.
WE REALLY THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE SENT US MONEY AND THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA CLAW THAT BACK.
SO IF SOMEONE EVER SENDS US MONEY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE, THE STATE CAN ACTUALLY PULL ALL OF IT BACK, UH, WITHIN FOUR YEARS.
SO IF IT'S FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WRITE THAT MARK.
THEY GO, OH NO, THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU.
MAKE IT'S AROUND AND JUST TAKE $20 MILLION OUT OF OUR ACCOUNT AND POP IT OVER TO CILO.
UH, SO WE WERE VERY WORRIED ABOUT, UM, THIS MONEY AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN.
AND IF THE STATE TURNED AROUND AND TOOK IT ALL BACK, WE DIDN'T WANNA APPLY THIS MONEY TO A PROJECT OR TRY TO ALLOCATE IT AND THEN JUST BE IN THE HOLE WHEN THE STATE TURNS AROUND AND GOES, NOPE, THAT'S NOT YOUR MONEY.
UH, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A, A VERY BAD SITUATION.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE DID HOLD OFF QUITE A LONG TIME UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THIS COMPANY, UM, AND SPEAK TO THEM FINALLY FIND SOMEONE TO CAN SPEAK TO AND SAY, OKAY, IS THIS SHIRT UH, IS THIS GONNA CONTINUE? IS IT A ONE-TIME DEAL? AND WE DID MANAGE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, AFTER RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO GET TO THEIR SALES TEAM AND, AND OTHER FOLKS.
UM, AND THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO, TO COUNSEL AND TOWARD THE MEMO, UH, AS AN UPDATE FOR THE SALES TAXES.
SO WE CONFIRM THAT IT IS SHIRTS AND WE CONFIRM THAT IT'S GONNA END AND WE CONFIRM SORT OF THE GENERAL AMOUNTS THAT ARE GONNA COME IN.
UM, AND SO THAT ALLOWS US TO THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND ATTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS TO THE CORRECT PRIORITIES AND DISCUSSIONS AND POSSIBLE PLANS ON PHILOSOPHY.
AS, UH, STEVE MENTIONED, THERE'S THE VER SMALLER CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, BIG ONE TIME INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE ITEMS, UM, ARE ALL ON THE TABLE.
THAT, THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM COUNCIL THAT THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, UH, FOCUS ON.
AND THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE PRIORITIES AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL PIECES TO THAT.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN TO TALK ON THE WATER AND SEWER CCNS.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, JAMES IS GONNA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE WATER AND SEWER FUND RIGHT AFTER THIS.
BUT WE THOUGHT WE'D USE THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, IN PART THIS IS FROM RESPONSE TO, WE HAD THE AGREEMENT WITH G-V-S-U-D THAT COUNCIL APPROVED A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR SEWER SERVICE.
IT MADE REFERENCE TO SOME, TO SOME C-B-L-G-C THINGS.
UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE KIND OF FUND OUR SYSTEM, BE IT IMPACT FEES
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VERSUS RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE'D DO IS KIND OF DO A LITTLE BIT OF A 1 0 1 ON CCNS, WHICH ARE CERTIFICATES OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE JUST AREN'T REALLY AWARE OF.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION ON ANY OF THIS TONIGHT.
UH, JUST TRY TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED.
SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS OR PUC, UH, IS INVOLVED IN THE REGULATION OF CERTIFICATES OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.
AND SO AGAIN, WHEN WE SAY CCNS, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THE CCN IS, IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, A DESIGNATION, AN AREA ON A MAP THAT GIVES AN ENTITY BOTH THE RIGHT AND THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE SERVICE, WATER OR SEWER.
SO YOU GET TO DO IT, BUT YOU ALSO SORT OF HAVE TO DO IT, UH, IS WHAT COMES WITH THAT.
NOW, ONE THING MANY PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED ABOUT IS THAT WE DON'T HOLD THE CCN FOR WATER AND SEWER FOR EVERY AREA OF THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
AND THAT, THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE IS A BIT OF A SURPRISE, RIGHT? UM, WE ADDITIONALLY, WE PARTNER WITH OTHER ENTITIES TO HELP US PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
SO I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.
SO JUST BRIEFLY, UH, LOOKING AT WATER CCNS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT BLUE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE CITY OF SHIRTZ, CCN, UH, BUT THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT GREEN VALLEY, SUD THAT HAS SOME OF THE CCNS FOR, UM, WATER UP IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, ALSO, IT'S NOT KIND OF SHOWN AS WELL UP HERE, BUT NBU NEW BRAUNFELS, THEY'VE GOT SOME AND THEN SAWS DOWN IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO GRAY TOWN ESTATES, THOSE FOLKS ARE GONNA GET WATER FROM THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR, FOR SEWER.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PURPLEISH SHIRTS.
UH, WE'VE GOT SAUCE, SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM DOWN HERE.
WE'VE GOT G-V-S-U-D AND THEN AGAIN NBUS UP HERE.
AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO SOME AREAS THAT ARE DUAL CERTIFICATION WHERE, UH, YOU OVERLAP AND MULTIPLE ENTITIES HAVE, HAVE THAT, UH, RIGHT TO PROVIDE SERVICE.
OKAY? UM, AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF ACRONYMS, IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT, BUT JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, SOME OF THE PLAYERS INVOLVED.
S-S-L-G-C IS WHO SHIRTS GETS OUR ACTUAL WATER FROM, OR THE BULK OF OUR WATER FROM, UH, TO PUT IN THE PIPES AND SEND OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
C-V-L-G-C IS AN ENTITY THAT WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SAU THAT WAS CREATED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WATER FOR OUR COMMUNITY IF WE NEEDED IT.
CCMA IS THE SLO CREEK MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
SOME OF YOU KNOW CLINT ELLIS OR RICHARD BRO, WHO SERVED ON OUR PNZ FOR A LONG TIME.
UH, RICHARD IS THE, THE CHAIR OF THEIR BOARD, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO TREAT OUR SEWER.
SO WHEN YOU FLUSH YOUR TOILET AND IT GOES THROUGH OUR PIPES, IT EVENTUALLY GETS TO ONE OF THEIR TREATMENT PLANTS AND THEY TREAT IT FOR MOST OF THE CITY.
THERE'S G-B-S-U-D WHO WE SPOKE ABOUT, UH, GREEN VALLEY, SUD UH, PHIL GAUGE.
IF YOU GO TO EITHER THE NORTHEAST PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS OR THE CHAMBER LUNCHEONS, YOU MAY, YOU MAY SEE PHIL THERE.
UH, SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, THE BIG ONE PROVIDING SERVICE FOR SAN ANTONIO, MBU IS NEW BRAUNFELS AND THEN SAW AS THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM.
SO THEY'RE ALL INVOLVED IN PROVIDING, UH, WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR BUSINESSES, IN INSUREDS.
AND SO, AGAIN, WITH REGARD TO SEWER SERVICE AREAS THAT WE HAVE, THE CCN, WE CONTRACT WITH CCMA, SO CREEK MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY FOR TREATMENT, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT OUR CITY STAFF THAT RUN THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT.
IT'S CCC MA'S EMPLOYEES AND WE PAY THEM TO DO IT.
AND PART OF WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR, YOUR WATER SEWER BILL GOES TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
AND AGAIN, WE PAY FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THEY NEED.
SO COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER YOU APPROVE THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE BOND FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE SOUTH PLANT DOWN BY I 10 BECAUSE WE NEED ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
SO WE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND THEY PROVIDE THAT TREATMENT.
NOW, WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH N BU TO PROVIDE A BIT OF CAPACITY, UM, FOR SOME OF THE AREAS, UH, GENERALLY UP HERE.
SO WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU HAVE CISCO, UM, AND AMAZON UP THERE, SOME OF THAT AREA BY CONTRACT, WE SEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FLOWS TO THEM.
NOW, THERE THAT'S LIMITED BY THAT AGREEMENT.
IT'S NOT EVERYBODY THAT DEVELOPS.
SO WE ALSO HAVE AREAS UP THERE THAT WE ROUTE DOWN AND, AND GET TREATED BY CCMA AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE 1 0 1 ON SEWER FOR WATER SERVICES.
I SAID MOST OF THE WATER THAT WE GET TO PROVIDE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE THE CN FOR COMES FROM, UH, THE SHIRK SINE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
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CORPORATION.UM, THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CREATED ESSENTIALLY CITY OF SHIRKS AND CITY OF SINE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
ANDREW MCBRIDE, WHO SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THAT ENTITY.
UM, AND THEY BASICALLY PROVIDE THE ACTUAL WATER, GET IT OVER HERE TO US, THEN IT GETS IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE PICK IT UP FROM THERE.
AND IT'S OUR FOLKS THAT THEN SEND IT OUT TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
AGAIN, THE BULK OF OUR WATERS FROM THERE.
NOW WE DO ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME WATER LEASES AND SOME RIGHTS FOR EDWARDS AQUIFER.
THAT'S ABOUT LESS THAN 10% OF THE WATER WE GET.
AND YOU MAY SAY, WELL, WHY DO WE HAVE THAT? BEFORE S-S-L-G-C WAS CREATED, THAT'S HOW WE GOT ALL OF THE WATER TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IT WAS THROUGH THE, THE EDWARDS RIGHTS.
SO WE STILL HAVE THAT AND WE GENERALLY RELY ON THAT TO SUPPLEMENT IN SORT OF PEAK TIMES TO HELP WHEN S-S-L-G-C IS KIND OF SENDING AS MUCH WATER AS THEY CAN THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE USE THAT EDWARDS TO, TO KIND OF BACKFILL THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST THING, AS I MENTIONED, UH, AND, AND MR. SCHWART IS ON THE BOARD OF C-B-L-G-C, HE'S ONE OF OUR, OUR SHIRTS APPOINTEES TO IT IS, UM, THE CILO VALLEY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.
WE CREATED THAT CITY OF SHIRTS WITH CITY OF CILO ABOUT A DECADE OR SO AGO, UH, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WATER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND AT THE TIME, UH, THE SORT OF, THE ISSUE WAS, IS THAT SINE WASN'T GROWING THE WAY SHIRTZ WAS.
SO SHIRTZ WAS HERE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE WATER IN THE FUTURE.
SINE WAS SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF GREAT.
WE WE DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY GONNA NEED MORE WATER IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THE IDEA WE HAD WAS, WELL, SLO WAS GONNA NEED MORE WATER, LET'S PARTNER WITH THEM 'CAUSE WE'RE BOTH GONNA NEED MORE WATER IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND SO C-V-L-G-C WENT OUT AND ACQUIRED, UH, LEASES, UM, GROUNDWATER LEASES ESSENTIALLY LEASES FOR THE RIGHTS TO THAT WATER IN THE GROUND UNDER PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, PROPERTY.
BUT TO BE CLEAR, C-B-L-G-C HASN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT OTHER THAN PAY ON THOSE LEASES.
THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S NO PIPES, AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GONE THROUGH THE FIRST STEP TO GET THE PERMITS THAT YOU NEED TO GET, WHICH IS NOT A SHORT OR INEXPENSIVE PROCESS TO, TO PRODUCE THAT WATER.
AND, AND WHAT'S HAPPENED SUBSEQUENT TO THAT CREATION, THOUGH, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS SINE IS EXPERIENCING RAPID GROWTH.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY'VE GOT OTHER ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE WATER IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT ARE STRUGGLING FOR WATER.
AND SO WHAT HAS SORT OF CHANGED BETWEEN WHEN 10, 15 YEARS AGO IS THAT SINE IS NOW IN THE POSITION TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WATER POTENTIALLY TOO.
THEY'RE MORE OPEN TO GROWING THAT SYSTEM.
AND SO THE DECISION POINT THAT WE SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT MONTHS IS WHAT DO WE THINK THE BEST PATHWAY IS TO PROVIDE THAT WATER FOR OUR COMMUNITY? IS IT TO BASICALLY HAVE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES WITH DIRECTORS AND STAFF AND TWO SEPARATE SETS OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO PULL THE WATER OUTTA THE GROUND, TREAT IT, SHIP IT OVER TO US, OR DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO IT WITH ONE ENTITY? AND IF WE DO IT WITH ONE ENTITY, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET IN THERE AND HELP THEM FUND THE ACTUAL WATER LEASES AND WATER RIGHTS WE NEED? UH, THE LAST THING I'LL SORT OF SAY IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS, BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IS WHEN THERE IS EXCESS WATER, THESE ENTITIES WILL ENTER INTO CONTRACTS FOR SHORT TERM, FIVE YEARS OR SO TO PROVIDE EXCESS WATER TO OTHER ENTITIES THAT NEED IT.
AND THE REASON THEY DO THAT IS IT OFFSETS YOUR COST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE REVENUE COMING IN FROM THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK AS COUNCILMAN DAVIS HAS MADE THE POINT, YOU DON'T WANNA DO THESE REALLY LONG TERM LEASES WHERE NOW YOU'RE FINDING YOURSELF, HEY, I REALLY NEEDED THAT, BUT I KIND OF GAVE THEM A A CHEAPER DEAL, A SWEETHEART DEAL, AND I'M HAVING TO PAY TWICE AS MUCH TO GET THE WATER GOING FORWARD.
SO THE IDEA IS TO, IF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH EXCESS YOU HAVE, YOU CAN ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH FOLKS TO DRIVE REVENUE FROM THAT.
UH, BUT THEN THOSE EXPIRE BEFORE YOU START NEEDING TO TAKE THE WATER.
AND SO THIS REALLY, AS I SAID AGAIN, WAS JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR FOLKS ON HOW CCNS WORK, WHO SOME OF THE ENTITIES INVOLVED ARE IN IT, AS WE SORT OF STEP INTO SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE FUND THIS STUFF, THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE HAVE TO DO IT, BUT ALSO WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE MULTIPLE ENTITIES INVOLVED, UM, AND WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD IN OUR FUTURE AND WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO KIND OF GOING FORWARD.
SO AGAIN, NO DECISION FROM THIS, BUT IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE OR TRY TO, AND LARRY CAN JUMP IN AND, AND HELP ME OUT.
AND IF NOT, THEN JAMES WILL START WITH, UH, THE, THE FUNDS.
SO AT THIS POINT THEY ARE SETTING UP
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FOR LUNCH IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK AND THEN COME BACK OR PRESS ON.I MEAN THE FOOD IS IN THERE, SO, AND, AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION TO GET YOUR LUNCH AND COME BACK AND WORK THROUGH LUNCH IF YOU'D LIKE THAT TO MOVE QUICKER.
WE GOT QUITE A BIT MORE TO GO.
WHAT'S THE LUNCH?
SHEILA, DO YOU KNOW SANDWICHES? LAST TIME THEY DECIDED IF, IF YOU LIKE, WE CAN PRESS ON TO GET THROUGH THE FUND, THE OTHER FUNDS AND THE OTHER MAJOR FUNDS AND THEN STOP AT THE CIP BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD BREAK POINT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST FOR THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, UH, THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A CHANGE IN HOW OUR OPERATIONS WORKED.
'CAUSE UH, UH, BETWEEN 25 AND THE CURRENT YEAR 26, UH, THE, UH, WE CONTRACTED WITH FRONTIER.
ONE OF THE CHANGES TO HOW WE OPERATE IS THE NEW WASTE CONTRACTOR WILL ACTUALLY HANDLE ALL OF THE BILLING FOR COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS.
THAT WAS TO INCREASE, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE ENTITIES TO GET, UH, YOUR, YOUR DUMPSTER PULLED, UH, SOME OTHER AND UP, CLEAN UP SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUES, UM, THAT WAY THEY CAN, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES CAN DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE FRONTIER AND SCHEDULE THOSE, UM, THOSE PICKUPS.
SO WHAT THAT DID WAS IT REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE'RE COLLECTING BECAUSE WE'RE NO LONGER COLLECTING FOR COMMERCIAL AND REDUCE THE EXPENSE 'CAUSE WE'RE IN, WE'RE NO LONGER PAYING OUR WASTE CONTRACTOR FOR, UM, THOSE EXPENSES.
SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY THIS, THIS DROP OCCURRED BETWEEN THOSE TWO YEARS.
WATER AND SEWER FUNDS IN A VERY SIMILAR POSITION TO THE GENERAL FUND.
HOWEVER, THEY DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF SALES TAXES.
UM, THEIR FUND BALANCE OR THEIR EQUIVALENT FUND TO EQUITY IS THE, UH, UH, CORRECT TERM FOR THE VERY SIMILAR VERSION OF FUND BALANCE FOR THE WATER AND SEWER TYPE FUND, UM, IS ABOVE ITS TARGET.
UH, BUT WE PLAN TO SPEND THAT DOWN ON, UH, CAPITAL PURCHASES.
SO THEY'RE GONNA WRITE SOME CHECKS OVER TO THE CAPITAL FUND TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT'LL GET DOWN, UH, TO 2030 BY THAT TIME PERIOD.
WE DON'T WANNA FUND THEM UP FRONT.
WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULE ON OUR CIP, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHICH KIND OF SCHEDULES OUT WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION FUND WILL NEED TO USE THOSE.
AND SO WE'LL TRANSFER THOSE OUT ONCE THAT, UH, THAT TIME PERIOD OCCURS AND THOSE PROJECTS KICK OFF.
UH, BUT AS YOU SEE THE DROP, THE EXPENSES DROP, THE TARGET DROPS.
THAT'S 'CAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPENSES, WE TRY TO KEEP THAT, THAT TARGET IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF EXPENSES.
SO THEORETICALLY IF WE DON'T GET MONEY, WE HIT A, SOME BIG NATURAL DISASTER AND WE DON'T GET A DROP OF MONEY.
WE COULD OPERATE ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD STANDARD TO HAVE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE BASE IT ON.
SO THE EMS FUND WAS TRENDING FINANCIALLY IN A NEGATIVE DIRECTION.
A CHANGE IN NET POSITION FOR, UH, FY 25 ON THE, UH, THE ITEM THAT YOU JUST GOT ON THE, THE AUDIT YOU JUST GOT, UH, WAS A NEGATIVE ALMOST $900,000.
UH, NET POSITION IS BASICALLY LIKE A FUND BALANCE.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S KIND THE EQUITY IN THE GENERAL FUND NET POSITION FOR EMS AND WATER AND SEWER IS THE, UH, OFFICIAL TERM, UH, THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO WHAT STAFF WAS AWARE OF THAT, WE SAW THAT TREND COMING.
WE REACHED OUT TO A BUNCH OF PARTICIPANTS.
'CAUSE SHIRTZ PROVIDES EMS SERVICES TO A BUNCH OF OTHER ENTITIES BESIDES JUST THE CITY OF SHIRTZ AND RENEGOTIATE OUR EXISTING CONTRACT TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, WHICH, UH, IN THOSE CONTRACTS, IT INCREASED 45% OF OUR FEES TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
UM, COMBINED, NOT 45% EACH YEAR, UH, FOR 26, 27 AND 28.
UH, THERE'RE ALSO INCREASED USER TRANSPORT FEES IN 25 AND 26.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING A CONSULTANT STUDY.
WE'RE BRINGING IN SOME CONSULTANTS TO KIND OF LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING OPERATIONS, HOW OUR, UM, UM, WITH OUR CALL VOLUME, OUR LOCATION PLACEMENTS, UH, AS WELL AS OUR STRUCTURE OF OUR STAFF AND WHO'S ASSIGNED WHERE TO SEE IF WE CAN GAIN ANY EFFICIENCIES TO HELP REDUCE THAT NUMBER AS WELL.
SO THEIR NUMBER, THEIR CHART FIVE YEAR FORECAST LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE PAST COUPLE.
THEIR FUND BALANCE OR FUND EQUITY FOR THE, THE, UH, UM, GOVERNMENTAL TERM FOR THEIR NET POSITION WAS DOWN HERE.
OR SORRY, THIS IS THEIR, UM, CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENCE WAS DOWN HERE.
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BY 2030, THEY'LL BE IN A POSITIVE POSITION.THEY'LL STILL BE BELOW THEIR TARGET, BUT WE'RE WORKING IN THAT POSITIVE DIRECTION.
SO THEY'LL START SEEING REVENUES OVER EXPENSES IN THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING TYPE TYPE FORM.
AND WITH THE FEE CHANGES WE PLAN, UH, WE'LL GET THOSE BACK UP TO OUR, OUR, OUR STANDARD AMOUNT.
SO THE REVENUES, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE.
WE SAID PARTICIPANT CONTRIBUTIONS.
WHAT ARE THOSE? IT'S 31% OF HOW MUCH EM, UH, REVENUES.
EMS GENERATES FEE CHARGE TO USERS.
SO EVERY TIME THERE'S A TRANSPORT, YOU TAKE SOMEONE TO THE HOSPITAL OR, OR MOVE PEOPLE BETWEEN HOSPITALS, UH, THERE'S A BILL INVOLVED THAT MAKES UP, UH, 7.7 MILLION OR 67%.
AND THEN TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO A COMMUNITY, UM, ABOUT 31% OF THEIR, THEIR INCOME EMSS MS SERVICES DO NOT MAKE REVENUE ON THEIR OWN.
UH, EXPENSES WILL ALWAYS BE MORE THAN HOW MUCH THEY CAN GENERATE JUST GENERALLY BY THEIR NATURE.
UH, THEY USUALLY GET SOME SUBSIDIES TO KEEP OPERATIONS 'CAUSE IT'S A VERY NEEDED SERVICE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEONE SHOW UP WHEN THERE'S SOMEONE INJURED OR SOMEONE NEEDS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
UH, SO HOW WE DO IT IS WE MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE WITH PARTICIPANT CONTRIBUTIONS.
SO JAMES, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THAT'S A SUBSIDY YES.
OF THE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED? SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS CATEGORIZED AS IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT DOESN'T TRULY SELF-SUPPORT FROM THE THE REVENUES YOU GET FROM RIDES, RIGHT FROM TRANSPORTS.
SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 31% THAT NEEDS TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE PARTICIPANTS GENERAL FUND.
AND MOST ENTITIES IT'S PART OF, WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY MOST, I DON'T KNOW.
GREG CAN MAYBE OPINE ON THIS, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, IT'S INCLUDED AS PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU DON'T REALLY EVER SEE THIS, THIS IS REALLY A VERY TRANSPARENT WAY TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE AMOUNT THAT COMES FROM THE RIDES, THE REVENUE FROM RIDES, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT THAT COMES FROM THE SUBSIDY IF IT WAS JUST SHIRTS THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM OUR GENERAL FUND ONLY, BUT WE SERVE THIS LARGER AREA, WE SERVE MORE ENTITIES.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT JAMES IS GONNA SHOW YOU IS A BREAKDOWN OF THAT 31%.
SO THAT 31% CHURCH IS ABOUT 22% OF THE CONTRIBUTION.
OTHER COMMUNITIES SERVED INCLUDE CILO, LIVE OAK, UNIVERSAL CITY, SELMA, KAMAL, UM, ESD NUMBER SIX, SANTA CLARA, MARION, UH, JBSA, RANDOLPH, UH, GUADALUPE COUNTIES, THE UNINCORPORATED GUADALUPE COUNTY, NEW BERLIN.
SO THESE ARE THE AREAS, ESPECIALLY THE CITIES THAT PROVIDE, THAT WE GO AND PROVIDE SERVICES FOR.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENEGOTIATING CONTRACTS AND INCREASING THE PARTICIPANT FEES TO HELP MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
UH, THESE ARE THE ENTITIES THAT, UM, THAT WE RENEGOTIATED WITH THE, THE CITY PORTIONS.
SO ON THEIR EXPENSE SIDE, WHAT MAKES UP THEIR EXPENSES? SO A LOT OF, UH, THEIR, THEIR PERSONNEL IS 76% OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGET AS A VERY, UH, PERSONNEL, UH, DRIVEN INDUSTRY.
YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE ON THE TRUCKS.
UM, AND UH, YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATIONS THAT COME UP WITH IT.
UH, WHENEVER THEY GET A CALL TO GO OUT, HELP MOVE, UH, AND EXTRACT FOLKS, UH, FROM WHATEVER INCIDENT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN AND PROPERLY CARE FOR THEM WHILE YOU TAKE A TRIP OVER TO THE HOSPITAL FOR THEM TO PROVIDE, UM, MORE INTENSIVE CARE WHEN NECESSARY.
ALRIGHT, I, I THINK BEFORE JUST ONE MORE COMMENT, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THAT.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A PERSONNEL SERVICE DRIVEN ENTITY AND IN TERMS OF BRINGING IT BACK INTO THE BLACK AND OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SERVICES WHERE YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO EITHER INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE COMING IN TO MATCH WHAT IT COSTS TO OPERATE VERSUS REDUCE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, RIGHT? AND THE ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO INCREASE THEIR SUBSIDY BY 45% IN SOME CASES RIGHT AWAY.
AND IN MOST CASES, I GUESS OVER THE THREE YEARS.
BUT THE, EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM HAS MADE THAT COMMITMENT AND, AND AMENDED THEIR CONTRACTS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUBSIDY.
'CAUSE THE PIECE OF THE PIE FOR THE SUBSIDY NEEDS TO GROW A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN AFFORD TO OPERATE THIS AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE BLACK.
AND AS WE MENTIONED ON THE OTHER SLIDE AS WELL, UM, STEVE MENTIONED ONE OF THE OPTIONS REDUCING SERVICES BY BRINGING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD, WE MAY FIND WAYS TO INCREASE OR MAINTAIN EFFICIENCY WHILE CUTTING COSTS.
UH, IT'S REALLY HARD TO REDUCE SERVICES HERE.
UM, IF WE CAN CUT COSTS OR KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE AS STAFFS, UM, BY FAR OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION AND PLAN, UM, TO
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MINIMIZE OVERALL IMPACTS TO THE CITIZENS.DO WE HAVE A CFE? ALL RIGHT, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD BREAK TIME MAYOR 'CAUSE BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE CIP OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK TO BE ABLE TO, FOR EVERYBODY TO GO AHEAD AND GRAB THEIR LUNCH AND EVERYTHING, GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEN WE CAN RESUME.
IS THAT GOOD? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BREAK OUT AT 1132.
AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET EVERYBODY TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A SEAT AND WE'LL GET, UH, WE'LL COME OUTTA RECESS AT 1152 SO WE CAN RESUME WITH THE MEETING.
WHAT WE'RE PASSING AROUND THESE THAT WE CALL IT THE VERY TECHNICAL NAME IS CALLED THE BIG SHEET.
SO WE ARE TA WE ARE PASSING AROUND THE BIG SHEET.
IF WE'VE GOT EXTRAS, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE ALLOWED TO, UH, I MEAN YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GRAB A COPY OF THAT AS WELL, BUT WE'RE ALL, I'LL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN TOO.
WE'RE GONNA SHIFT GEARS FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET.
AND WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
SO I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT OF INTRO AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL CIPS THEMSELVES.
SO FIRST WE, WE BREAK 'EM UP INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS CALLED THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT CAPITAL BUDGET, RIGHT? SO YOU IN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR PROGRAM, YOU HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING OUT AND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IN OUR CASE WE DO A 10 YEAR CIP AND YOU'LL SEE, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BIG SHEET AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE IF YOU'RE WATCHING ON TV, WE REALLY DETAIL OUT THE, THE FIRST FIVE YEARS IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING.
AND THEN THE LAST 10 YEARS IS KIND OF LUMPED INTO ONE COLUMN.
THAT'S BECAUSE A CIP IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
IT, YOU DON'T PUT IT TOGETHER AND THEN IT STAYS STATIC FOREVER, RIGHT? YOU EVALUATE IT CONS CONSTANTLY, AND YOU'RE TWEAKING IT CONSTANTLY.
AND THAT'S TO ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF CHANGES, SCHEDULING CONDITIONS, AVAILABLE, FUNDING, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO MAKING IT UP.
BUT JUST TO BACKTRACK, AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, YOU HEARD IT LAST YEAR, BUT I'LL, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
WHEN YOU DEVELOP A CIP AND FOR THE CITY OF SHIRTZ, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW TO HAVE A CONSOLIDATED CIP THAT CONSIDERS EVERYTHING, SAY UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR AS, AND EVERYTHING UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF WATER AND SEWER, ET CETERA.
AND IT IS A VERY VALUABLE TOOL BECAUSE WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW YOU PAY FOR IT, SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S NOT ALL TOGETHER LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE COMPETING PROJECTS FOR THE SAME RESOURCE.
AND IT'S HARD TO REALLY EVALUATE THAT AND PRIORITIZE.
SO WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU DEVELOP A CIP IS YOU IDENTIFY ALL THE PROJECTS, THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU DO.
YOU MAKE A LONG LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE NOW AND OUT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT.
YOU CAN DO SAY A ROAD MASTER PLAN AND THAT MIGHT GENERATE YOUR LIST OR AT LEAST THE BULK OF THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IN THE ROADS PORTION OF YOUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, CIP OR YOU MIGHT DO A SEWER MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT'S GONNA GENERATE A LIST OF SEWER PROJECTS AND NEEDS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT STUDY HAS DONE.
SAME THING WITH WATER, SAME THING WITH PARKS.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT STUDIES AND PLANS THAT WE ADOPT AND DO A LOT OF THAT GETS INCORPORATED INTO THIS CIP.
THERE ARE ALSO OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GENERATED, SAY FROM THE PUBLIC OR FROM THE COUNCIL OR FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE.
THOSE THINGS ARE ALL PUT TOGETHER.
SO YOU'RE EVALUATING IN THEM ON A CUMULATIVE BASIS AND YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO THE NEEDED RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO YOU MAKE YOUR LIST AND THEN YOU PUT THAT LIST IN PRIORITY ORDER, BUT IT'S STILL JUST A STRAIGHT LIST.
YOUR NEXT STEP IS TO SCHEDULE THAT WORK, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF I'VE GOT, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, $300 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS, AUTHOR OR, UH, IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL PROJECTS, THERE'S NO WAY WE HAVE THE STAFF TO DO $300 MILLION IN 50, 70, A HUNDRED DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN ONE YEAR, RIGHT? UNLESS WE WENT OUT AND HIRED A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MORE ENGINEERS AND PEOPLE TO REALLY GET THIS DONE, CAN'T GET IT ALL DOWN AT ONCE.
SO YOU HAVE TO SCHEDULE THAT OUT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
ALSO, SOMETHING MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE AT THE END OF THE LIFE CYCLE OR IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE READY TO BE BUILT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT.
SO YOU BUILD THE SCHEDULE AND THEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR AVAILABLE FUNDING AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF RESOURCES THAT GO INTO
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FUNDING A CIP AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MINUTE.IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE WHETHER, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY THAT COSTS $50 MILLION OUT IN THE YOU, YOU POTENTIALLY MAY NEED TO RAISE YOUR TAX RATE TO DO THAT.
IT MAY AFFECT A TA, AN INS OR INTEREST IN SINKING FUND TAX RATE INCREASE.
SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU DO A BOND ELECTION, PUT IT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS.
ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY TWO MORE CENTS ON THE TAX RATE TO BUILD THIS FACILITY? THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND MAKE THAT EVALUATION.
AND THE THIRD THING I WOULD SAY, THE REALLY A, A REALLY VALUABLE COMPONENT OF THIS IS TYING YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THINGS IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BACK TO YOUR OPERATING BUDGET AND YOUR MULTI-YEAR FORECAST AND YOUR OPERATING BUDGET.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU BUILD FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING, RIGHT? POP QUIZ, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS DOES IT TAKE TO DO THREE MEN ON A TRUCK? BASICALLY WE STAFF OF A FIRE STATION WITH 12 NEW FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT IS COVERAGE FOR 24 7 AND IT, IT COVERS THE THREE SHIFTS, ET CETERA.
BUT WHEN YOU OPEN A NEW STATION, YOU NEED THAT, RIGHT? THAT COSTS ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OR MORE.
AND SO THAT'S AN A MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR IMPACT ON YOUR OPERATING BUDGET.
SO AS YOU PUT SOME, YOU PUT A NEW FIRE STATION IN YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, YOU NEED TO ALSO GO INTO YOUR MULTI-YEAR FORECAST FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND.
AND CORRESPONDINGLY PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE AS YOU HIRE THOSE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE GONNA STAFF THAT STATION A ROAD NOT QUITE THE SAME IMPACT.
THERE'S SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH IT, BUT THERE'S NOT A TON OF PERSONNEL OR THINGS THAT YOU WOULD CALCULATE THERE.
A REC CENTER IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A REC CENTER, YES, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STAFF THAT REC CENTER.
IT COSTS A MILLION DOLLARS YOU TO RUN THAT THING.
SO YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT IN YOUR OPERATING FORECAST.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE VALUE OF TYING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND BEING, BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE AS BEST YOU CAN AS YOU PUT YOUR, AS YOU PUT YOUR CIP TOGETHER.
SO TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, CIP, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN, THE MAJORITY.
AND SO IN THAT 10 YEAR CIP, THE FIRST YEAR IS CALLED THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU WERE ADOPTING.
THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE ESTABLISHING APPROPRIATIONS FOR.
THE OTHER NINE YEARS, THOSE ARE JUST A PLAN, THAT'S JUST A FORECAST, THAT'S JUST AN IDENTIFICATION OF THE, AND A PRIORITIZATION OF THE PROJECTS AND THE SCHEDULE TO WORK.
YOU'RE ONLY ADOPTING THE FIRST YEAR.
SO YOU WILL SEE IN THE CIP YOU GOTTA CALL 'EM OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED STUFF, RIGHT? THOSE, THOSE, UH, APPROPRIATIONS DON'T LAPSE AND THEN YOU GOT YOUR FIRST YEAR OR THE NEXT, THE ONE YOU WOULD BE ADOPTING NOW COMING UP, AND THEN YOU WOULD SEE THE NINE FOUR.
NOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE CURRENT YEAR.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE CURRENT YEAR NUMBER 25, 26 AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU LATER AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, IT'S GONNA SHIFT OVER ONE.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS SPREADSHEET.
IT'S GONNA SHIFT OVER ONE AND YOU'LL HAVE THAT CURRENT YEAR WILL BE PRIOR AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE, THE ADOPTED OR THE PROPOSED, WHICH WILL BECOME THE ADOPTED AND MOVING FORWARD.
SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CLARIFY THOSE THINGS AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $53 MILLION IN STREETS, 5.3 MILLION IN PARKS AND 13.9 IN FACILITIES.
SO, ALRIGHT, I'LL GO THROUGH HERE LITTLE BIT MORE DE LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
WHERE'S THE MONEY GONNA COME FROM, RIGHT? THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF THAT, IN THIS CASE, 50 52 0.6 MILLION OF IT IS COMING FROM PRIOR YEAR FUNDING.
THAT MEANS THOSE ARE FROM BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED AT VARIOUS TIMES AND PRIOR YEARS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NOW INCLUDING AND GONNA APPROPRIATE.
OR THAT WERE, I'M SORRY, THAT WERE APPROPRIATED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND I JAMES THAT A VARIETY OF YEARS OF WHERE THAT COMES FROM.
THAT MAKES UP THAT AMOUNT, RIGHT? SO THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME NEW BONDS, YOU SEE THAT $8.3 MILLION AND THEN WE'VE GOT A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE SHIRTZ ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, $11.8 MILLION AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF CASH FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN 15,000 FROM OTHER SOURCES.
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ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE FIRST TWO SLIDES BEFORE I MOVE ON? THIS IS A, A DETAILED LIST OR PART OF THE FIRST HALF OF A DETAILED LIST OF THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT CIP, SO YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN.NOW I WANT TO COMMENT, YOU GOT A COUPLE OF BIG PROJECTS ON THERE.
YOU GOT MAIN STREET IMPROVEMENTS, YOU GOT LOWER SEINE, THE 53 MILLION, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT DONE THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE, RIGHT? LET'S SAY WE GET 20 MILLION DONE OUT OF THE 53 MILLION, THE BALANCE OF IT SLIDES FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR.
OKAY? SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE PROJECTS, IT'S NOT THAT THEY GO AWAY, YOU, WE JUST ADJUST THE CIP NOW THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE REALLY PUT THIS TOGETHER AND SO IT WAS OUR BEST SHOT AT PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MIDDLE MILES ON THE TIRES AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD, WE NEED TO MASSAGE IT A LITTLE MORE.
THE REALITY IS THE STUFF THAT WAS KIND OF CRAMMED IN THE FIRST YEAR IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET THIS YEAR, IT'S GONNA FLOW OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF TIMING.
GOOD EXAMPLE BEING MAIN STREET, UM, LOWER SEIN, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET GRANT FUNDING THERE AND WHEN WE GET TO THE PARK STUFF, SOME OF THE PARK STUFF, THE COMMUNITY CIRCLE PARK IS PUSHING A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S A TIMING ISSUE IN HOW YOU'RE REPRESENT IT IN YOUR CIP.
IT'S JUST GONNA, SOME OF THOSE ARE GONNA SHOVE OUT.
SO THE BACK PAGE OF THAT IS FACILITIES.
WE GOT FIRE STATION FOUR, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE THERE.
THAT'LL BE DONE PRETTY SOON, RELATIVELY SOON.
BUT WE'LL SPEND, WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND THAT 11.9 THIS YEAR.
IF NOT, IT'LL BLEED A LITTLE BIT INTO THE NEXT.
SO TOTAL, WHAT WAS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS? $73.2 MILLION.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GENERAL GOVERNMENT? SO PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA RIGHT NOW TO STOP DOWN, LOOK AT YOUR BIG SHEETS AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PULL IT UP HERE SO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT JUST HAPPENED THERE, BUT, OKAY, IT'S NOT A LINK.
WHERE'S THE LINK? JAMES, DID WE HAVE THE LINK? IS IT IT'S AT THE END.
OKAY, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BIG SHEETS IN YOUR PACKET, ARE THEY ORDERED WITH THIS OR DO THEY NEED TO FLIP BACK TOO? CHECK THE TOP, CHECK THE HEADING AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND STREETS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
PROBABLY PULLED UP 12 VERSIONS OF IT HERE.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE'LL GET THIS UP SO THE AUDIENCE AND PUBLIC CAN SEE IT.
BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE, IN THE MEANTIME YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR 10 YEAR SCOPE AND ALRIGHT, WE GOT IT.
SO WHAT OUR ASK OF YOU IS, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THESE? DO YOU SEE, DO YOU HAVE A PRIORITY THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST OR DO YOU HAVE A PRIORITY THAT YOU CAN'T FIND IT ON THE LIST AND YOU WANT US TO POTENTIALLY FIND IT? OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE SCHEDULED OUT IN 2030 THAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE IN 2028? THESE ARE THE KIND OF, THIS IS THE KIND OF DISCUSSION, THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
IF THERE ARE NONE, WE WANT TO KIND OF WAIT AND SEE HOW THINGS PLAY OUT.
BUT, SO THE FIRST TWO PAGES IN THE STAPLE THING ARE WATER AND SEWER.
SO I'D FLIP BACK TWO TO GET TO STREETS.
YOU GOT STREETS AND WE'VE GOT, IN THE 10 YEAR WINDOW, WE'VE GOT $207 MILLION IDENTIFIED IN STREET PROJECTS.
AND FOR PARKS WE'VE GOT 25.8 MILLION.
AND FOR FACILITIES WE'VE GOT 79.5 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF $313 MILLION IN THAT 10 YEAR WINDOW.
AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.
OH, AM I ON THE WRONG THING? YEAH, LET ME GET CAUGHT UP HERE.
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OH YEAH, THERE WE GO.YOU CAN EVEN ZOOM IN, BUT IF YOU NEED TO, OKAY, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? OKAY.
SO HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN SEE THAT THIS IS STREET AND SO YOU CAN SEE AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE $14 MILLION IN PRIOR YEAR STUFF AND THEN WE'VE GOT 53.8 MILLION IN CURRENT STUFF.
SO, AND THIS IS THE ADOPTED BUDGET, I BELIEVE MAYBE WE HAVE AMENDED AND TWEAKED JUST A LITTLE BIT.
HAVE WE IN THE AMENDMENTS TO THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR? NONE OFFICIALLY.
THIS IS GENERALLY HOW IT LOOKS, BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES YOU MIGHT SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT WOULD BE THAT 25, 26 COLUMN PUSHING OUT SOME OF THOSE.
JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE PROJECTS LAID OUT NOW A LOT FOR THE STREETS, A LOT OF THESE WERE GRADED AND THESE ARE DETERMINED TO BE THE GREATEST NEED.
IS THAT HOW THEY ARE IN THE CURRENT SCHEDULE? YES SIR.
FOR KIND OF, BUT BUT YES, FOR IN LARGE PART, RIGHT, THEY'RE PRIORITIZED BUT SOME OF THEM ARE SCHEDULED OUT DUE TO LIFE, RIGHT? SO, WELL I, I JUST, I MEAN JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE WHEN I SEE MASKEY ROAD, WHEN I PERSONALLY DRIVE ON IT AND LOOK AT IT, IT'S TERRIBLE.
IT'S TERRIBLE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN BETTER CONDITION THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ROADS THAT ARE MORE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW EXACTLY THESE WERE LAID OUT.
UH, EY ROAD, OLD WIEDER STEIN, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK I CAN, UH, MAYBE KATHY DO YOU WANNA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THOUGH, BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO THERE'S THE STREET CONDITION INDEX THAT WE DO AND SO THAT'S A FEW YEARS OLD.
THAT IS PART OF THE PRIORITIZATION AND SOME OF IT IS MAPPING OUT THE AGE, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE FURTHER OUT, IT'S NEWER ROADS OR IT'S NOT QUITE TOWARDS END OF LIFE, SO COME ON OUT.
YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE FOLKS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE WORST FIRST AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE, THE SPAM PROGRAM, STREET PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE WITH EMPHASIS ON THE PRESERVATION.
AND SO WE CAN GET A LOT MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK TO DO THE RESURFACING PROJECTS THAT KEEP THE ROAD FROM DEGRADING FURTHER SO THAT IT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE MASKY.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO CATCH IT BEFORE IT GETS TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE THEN IT NEEDS RECONSTRUCTION.
SO SIMILAR TO UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF UM, FOCUS ON THE DOVE MEADOWS PROJECT.
THAT ONE IS A REHABILITATION PROJECT, IT WAS TOO, THE STREET WAS TOO FAR GONE TO BE JUST A RESURFACING.
SO WE HAD TO STRIP OFF ALL THE ASPHALT, DO SOME BASE REPAIR FOR THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, MUCH MORE INTRUSIVE, UH, INCONVENIENT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND IT COST A LOT MORE THAN IF WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO RESURFACE IT MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO WE TRY TO CATCH THE ROADS WHEN THEY'RE JUST AT THAT TIPPING POINT WHERE THEY WOULD FALL BEYOND A RESURFACING INTO A REHABILITATION OR IN THE CASE OF MASEY, A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER, MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
SO THEN WE LOOK AT JAMES AND HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE EACH YEAR TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE EITHER MAYBE A, A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT OR IF WE CAN TAKE A FEW MILLION DOLLARS AND GET MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS DONE WITH A RESURFACING PROJECT.
SO IS THAT KIND OF, DOES THAT KIND OF ANSWER THE QUESTION? LEMME CHIME IN ON A COUPLE THINGS TOO REAL QUICK IF I COULD.
I WAS GONNA, SO THE OTHER TALK ABOUT THE SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE FUNDING.
YEAH, SO PART OF IT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE AS WELL, RIGHT? SO MASKY, IT'S ON OUR ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ICIP.
SO WE CAN PAY FOR IT USING ROADWAY IMPACT FEE MONIES DO MEADOWS, WE CAN'T.
AND SO PART OF IT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE FUNDING SOURCE AND HOW WE USE THOSE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.
AND SO SOME OF THESE ROADS, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN MASSEY FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS NEVER REALLY BUILT TO A SUBURBAN URBAN STANDARD.
UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IT'S WHERE IT IS.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART JUST TO TO SAY IS IT'S THE COORDINATION OF SOME OF THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, AT TIMES WE'LL DELAY A STREET PROJECT TO LET WATER AND SEWER GET IN, DO THE WATER AND SEWER LINES AND THEN COME IN FOR IT.
BUT FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT I'D SAY IS IT'S A POLICY QUESTION.
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROADS WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT ARE, UH, MASKY,
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UH, ECKERD ROAD AND WHEATER SKY, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE THREE AND THEN LOWER SEIN AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TRYING TO GET A GRANT.BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT REALLY IT'S KIND OF POLICY QUESTION OF YEAH, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK TO FIND THE FUNDING, MOVE THIS UP AND DO IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, EVERYTHING BRIAN SAID IS A COMPONENT, RIGHT? IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A RELATIVELY LEVEL INS TAX RATE SO WE CAN KEEP OUR OVERALL TAX RATE RELATIVELY LEVEL AND NOT NECESSARILY CROWD OUR O AND M PART OF THE TAX RATE.
AND WE HAVE A DEBT PORTFOLIO THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THERE'S BONDS THAT WE'RE PAYING AND SOME OF THOSE ARE MATURING OUT.
AND SO YOU CAN ONLY LAYER ON SO MUCH ON TOP OF THAT.
IF YOU GET A BIG PROJECT COMES UP, IT MAY NECESSITATE A, A A TOO DRAMATIC OF AN INCREASE TO THE INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE.
SO TIMING OF IMPACT, FEES AND COLLECTION AND TIMING OF BEING ABLE TO ISSUE MORE BONDS TO GET IT DONE SOONER.
ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER KIND OF TIE TOGETHER TO, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING ACTUALLY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST STREETS, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU GET TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS, PARKS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT 'CAUSE MOST OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE EDC FUND, BUT THEN FACILITIES, RIGHT? SO ALL OF THAT IS COMPETING FOR THE SAME DOLLARS THAT ARE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
THE SAME BOND DOLLARS, THE SAME TAX RATE QUESTION.
HOW, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD IT TAKE TO COMPLETE MASSEY ROAD AND WHAT'S THE COST BALLPARK FIGURE? I THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S LISTED ON HERE.
WE CAN, LARRY CAN CHIME IN ON THIS TOO.
MASKEY, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WHENEVER WE HAVE TO GO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY THAT TAKES LONGER, THERE MAY BE SOME RELOCATION OF SOME OF THE WATER LINES.
MAYBE THOSE HYDRANTS LOOK CLOSE, MAYBE NOT RIGHT? THAT CAN ADD TO IT.
UM, THERE'S DESIGN AND THEN PUTTING A BID OUT.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY, IT'S YOU GUYS GAVE US SOME MONEY AND SAID YEAH, LET'S GO MAYBE TWO YEARS.
IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR? I THINK LARRY TWO YEARS PROBABLY A GOOD TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S ORDER OF MAGNITUDE AND THE COST.
LET ME LOOK IT UP AND I'LL TELL YOU 'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT AN ESTIMATE IN THERE, BUT THE ESTIMATE IS OLD COST GOING UP, SO WE'D HAVE TO, WELL, LET ME SEE WHAT WE HAD PUT IN IS WHAT SHE LOOKING YEAH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROJECT SHEETS THAT GO WITH EACH OF THESE.
ACTUALLY I COULD, BUT THIS ONE IS OUT IN THAT BEYOND THE FIVE YEAR LANE, UH, RANGE.
SO IT'S NOT DETAILED LIKE THESE OTHERS.
YOU GOT MASSEY ROAD ON HERE AT 2031 THROUGH 2035, CORRECT? AT CORRECT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY PROBABLY NINE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER ROADWAY THAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT ALSO.
UH, AND I WAS GONNA ASK IF THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE OR IS THAT STILL IN PROCESS? AND THAT'S
HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED? SO THAT'S ACTUALLY IN DESIGN.
IT SHOULD GO TO BID WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
YOU AND, AND THAT'S COMING OUT OF BOND MONEY? CORRECT.
SO IT'S THE PHOENIX SIX ONE DOWN 6 6 1 DOWN IS CATEGORY SIX BONDS? YES.
AND THEN, UM, UH, WITH THAT, SO IS WHERE SEIN ROAD GONNA GET, UH, ARE THEY GONNA WORK ON THAT ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 1518 OR NO? NO, IT'S, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST BAIG AND UH, WHERE SEIN IS THE FROM WHERE SASIN TO GRAY TOWN.
SO NOT WHERE SEIN AND GRAY TOWN, BUT BETWEEN THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
JUST ON BAIG, I KNOW DRIVING DOWN EGINE ROAD THIS PAST WEEK, IT'S PRETTY ROUGH AND THERE WERE EVEN VEHICLES IN FRONT OF ME THAT WERE GOING ON THE OPPOSING LANE JUST TO AVOID THE BAD DIPS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT ROADWAY, WHICH MAKES IT PRETTY, UH, PRETTY UNSAFE FOR OTHER DRIVERS.
SO, UH, WHATEVER WE GOTTA DO TO GET THAT ON THE RADAR.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT IS TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL TO SAY WE WANT STAFF TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIND FUNDING TO READJUST TO MOVE UP TO DO.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S STEVE WILL PROBABLY WANT A SUMMARY AT THE END TO GO, ALL RIGHT, WE WANT MASKY, WE WANT WEAR SINE.
HOW MUCH IS THAT ROUGHLY DONE?
OKAY, THANK YEAH, NO, BRIAN'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THIS IS TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES AND,
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AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE CAN READJUST THOSE IF YOU GOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO, SO, SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE MASKEY ON THERE, ON THE LIST IT SAYS, UM, LI LIVE OAK EXTENSION AND MASKEY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.WHAT, WHAT IS IMPROVEMENTS IN IN COMPARISON TO REHABILITATION? I'M SORRY, IN COMPARISON TO, OH, THE REHABILITATION.
SO YOU SAID REHABILITATION IS LIKE A COMPLETE REDOING OF THE ROAD.
UH, AND THIS ONE IT JUST SAYS IMPROVEMENTS.
WHAT DOES IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE? SO MASKY I WOULD BELIEVE IS A FULL RECONSTRUCTION.
CAN WE GO TO THE YEAH, GO TO THE SHEET.
UH, LET'S SEE DOWN, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE, I JUST THINK FOR MASKEY ROAD RIGHT THERE WITH THE SOCCER COMPLEX, IT'S JUST VERY INSUFFICIENT.
UH, YEAH, I HAVE TO DO THIS LONG OF COURSE ON MASK.
SO THIS IS TO EXTEND LIVE OAK BETWEEN WHERE IT, UH, SO, UH, BRIAN, OKAY, SO, UH, YOU WANNA GO BACK TO, YEAH.
SO IT INCLUDES THE EXTENSION OF LI LIVE OAK FROM WHERE IT ENDS HERE IN BENZO FARMS AROUND TO WHERE IT MEETS MAT IT IT WILL, THAT'S SO THAT'S FULL NEW RECONSTRUCTION.
IS HE SHOWING THE SAME THING THAT WE
HE WAS GIVING A MORE, HE WAS GIVING A MORE PERSONAL, PERSONAL EXPLANATION.
UM, SO IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD THAT WOULD EXTEND LIVE OAK FROM IL FARMS AROUND TWO MASKY AND THEN IT WOULD BE A FULL RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING OF MASKY DOWN TO 15, 18.
AND THEN PROBABLY A REHABILITATION OF THIS SECTION BECAUSE IT, THIS SECTION IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, IT'LL BE LESS USED.
MY FIRST THOUGHT ON THAT IS THAT 8 MILLION IS PROBABLY NOT AWARE CLOSE TO WHAT THAT WOULD COST, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE $8 MILLION.
BUT IT, IT'S, WE CAN GO BACK AND REEVALUATE IT.
I MEAN IF, IF IN FACT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO MOVE UP TO A CLOSER DATE, WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT A LITTLE, A LITTLE CLOSER, MAKE SURE, AND WE DO ALSO A LOT CLOSER.
THIS IS ONE WHERE WE WOULD LIKELY REQUEST SOME AMPO FUNDING AS WELL.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT LISTED UNDER GRANTS.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL REEVALUATE THE COST OF ALL THESE PROJECTS.
EVERY YEAR WHEN WE DO THIS, WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL OF THEM TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT INFLATION BUILT IN AND THAT SORT OF THING.
WELL I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT FOR THE SOCCER COMPLEX, BUT THEN I ALSO SAW HOW UH, I THINK UNIVERSAL CITY HAS A NEW, UH, PRETTY LARGE PROJECT COMING IN OFF OF 1518.
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE THAT ROAD AS A, AS A MAIN, UH, PLACE TO TRAVEL.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE THERE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SIDE OF MAKI AS WELL THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
AND A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENIENCE STATION WITH GAS PUMPS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT, UH, SHIRTS, PARKWAY AND MASKEY INTERSECTION IS GONNA BE CLOSED OFF? CORRECT.
INTERSECTION? THE INTERSECTION THE ROAD, THE IDEA IS, OKAY, SO RIGHT.
WHETHER IT'LL ACTUALLY BE CLOSED IS YET TO BE DETERMINED.
SO BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT PORTION ON TOP IS GONNA BE REHABILITATION REHABILITATED, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? MOST LIKELY MAYBE LIKE A RESURFACING BUT NOT A WIDENING, RIGHT? YEAH.
RECONSTRUCTION, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? RECONSTRUCT MASKEY BETWEEN LIVE OAK INSUREDS PARKWAY AS A NEW LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE WIDENED, BUT IT WOULD BE RECONSTRUCTED.
AND AND THAT'S BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS DESIGNED TO BE THE NEW ROUTE, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN OFF OF OLD STEIN, THE SENIOR LIVING, WILL THAT IMPACT BE HELP OLD STEIN? 'CAUSE I KNOW OLD STEIN IS GONNA HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION, KATHY, RIGHT? UH, WE SIGN YEP.
GO TO THE, WANNA GO TO THAT PROJECT CHIEF BECAUSE WHEN THAT DEVELOPER,
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LET ME CHIME IN.WHEN THAT DEVELOPER COMES IN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO IMPROVE A SECTION OF WE OR STEIN, OLD WEEDER STEIN ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY'LL GET ROADWAY IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THAT.
DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT THEY DO, THEY MAY STILL PAY SOME ROADWAY IMPACT FEE OR THEY MAY NOT, OR WE MAY GIVE THEM A BIT OF A REFUND, BUT IF THEY PAY ANY, THEN IT GOES INTO THAT SERVICE AREA AS ROADWAY IMPACT FEE FUND.
AND THAT CAN BE USED ON THAT ROAD.
BECAUSE I KNOW WITH OLD STEIN IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY MOST OF IT.
SO YEAH, SO LEMME SAY THIS, SO MANY OF THE ROADS THAT ARE COMING UP WHERE SEIN, MASKY STEIN, WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THAT BECOMES REALLY A CHALLENGE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW WITH THIS 3 0 0 9 FLY OVER 78, RIGHT? AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS THERE, BUT I'M GOING TO SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND SAYING I NEED 15, 20 FEET, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, THERE'S THE POLICY QUESTION OF GETTING SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND WE HAVE TO COMPENSATE.
THE OTHER IS THE TIME IT TAKES TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE COST THAT GOES WITH IT.
SO WHENEVER YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF AWAY OR EASEMENTS, AND PARTICULARLY THESE RECONSTRUCTIONS THAT NEED MORE ROOM, IT, IT UPS THE COST SIGNIFICANTLY AND ITS FOR RIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND PART OF IT'S AGAIN, POLICY HOW LONG DO WE NEGOTIATE VERSUS WE JUST GO TO IMMINENT DOMAIN, UM, KIND OF A THING.
I, I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT PLAN 1.66, UM, MILLION FOUR LAND ACQUISITION.
SO IT IS, UM, IT IS CONSIDERED ALSO, UM, OLD STEIN.
WE ACTUALLY ARE INCLUDING THE SEGMENT THAT IS NOT CONSTRUCTED AT THIS POINT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
UM, SO WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
AND AT SOME POINT HERE, THERE'S A PORTION OF THIS THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY ROADWAY SERVICE AREA TWO.
SO PART OF IT'S IN ONE PART OF IT'S IN TWO AND, AND LIKE BRIAN EXPLAINED, THE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT IN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE GENERATED.
THAT'S NOT IN OUR CITY, THAT SIGNAL IS NOT IN OUR CITY.
RIGHT WHERE IT GOES ACROSS THERE.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL AS WELL.
THERE'S A SMALL SEGMENT NOT IN THE CITY OF SHIRTS.
IT'S IN SLO ALL CHALLENGES THAT GO WITH BUILDING ROADS.
BUT IF WE ARE HEARING A CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL TO MOVE UP OR LOOK AT MOVING UP MASKY AND OLD STEIN, I MEAN THE WAY THIS WORKS GENERALLY, AND I I'M I'LL LET BRIAN OR KATHY TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE DISCUSSION, BUT IF YOU'RE MOVING SOMETHING UP, GENERALLY YOU NEED TO MOVE SOMETHING OUT, RIGHT? IT'S A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.
SO, AND A WORKLOAD PROCESS BUT, AND A MATCHING THE FUNDING SOURCE PROCESS.
SO IF WE PUSH SOMETHING UP, CHANCES ARE WE PUSH SOME OTHER THINGS OUT, WE CAN DO THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW WITH OLD STEIN WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY KIND OF, SO WE CAN TRY TO BUY SOME TIME.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO AGAIN TO BUY A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IF WE CAN'T MOVE IT UP WITH, BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE? YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO OUT AND SPEND, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO THIS RIGHT, A CHUNK OF MONEY TO GET IT BETTER THAN IT IS AND IT'LL LAST WHEN DID WE LAST DO THAT? A YEAR OR TWO AGO? YEAH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN SAY, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S X AMOUNT OF MONEY.
GO OUT, MAKE SOME SHORT TERM, KIND OF FIX THIS TO IT TO TIE THIS OVER.
LARRY, YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THAT? COME ON UP LARRY.
YEAH, SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
DONE IT A COUPLE TIMES OVER MY CAREER.
SAME ROAD, RIGHT? UH, THE PROBLEM IS, UH, THE FOUNDATION, RIGHT? AND SO, SO WE CAN GO OVERLAY THE ROAD.
UH, I I CAN TELL YOU I WAS HERE LAST TIME WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS YOU SEE SOME OF THAT REFLECTING BACK UP AND HAVING ISSUES AGAIN, RIGHT? SO IT, IT NEEDS A FULL RECONSTRUCTION AND, AND SO WE CAN PRIORITIZE DOING MAJOR MAINTENANCE.
UH, BUT BUT THAT COST ISN'T GONNA MAKE A MAJOR IMPACT UNTIL WE DO A MAJOR.
SO THEN THAT'S JUST LIKE PUTTING GOOD MONEY INTO SOMETHING FOR A GOOD MONEY INTO A BAD OVER AND OVER.
ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN IT RAINS YOU CAN START KIND OF SEEING THE WAY THE FOUNDATION STARTS TO FLUCTUATE.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME SPOTS THAT CARS ALMOST ON TWO WHEELS.
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SO DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT PORTION OF UH, OLD STEIN ROAD WILL BE IN THE CITY OF SUBO? YES SIR.SO SEE THAT LITTLE, CALL IT THE HORSE HEAD RIGHT THERE? MM-HMM
THIS LITTLE IS MY CURSOR GOING UP THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THIS LITTLE SEGMENT RIGHT THERE KIND OF, IT LOOKS LIKE A COLLAR ON THE HORSE.
OH AGAIN, JUST TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THERE IS THAT'S THROUGH THE LCRA EASEMENT.
SO AGAIN, ANOTHER THING YOU KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO, BUT IT JUST STRETCHES OUT HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THEM TO APPROVE GETTING A ROAD THROUGH THERE.
AND THEN ALSO JUST POINT OUT THAT THE SOUTHERN RIGHT OF WAY LINE ALONG OLD STEIN IS THE CITY LIMIT, THE BOUNDARY AT THIS POINT.
SO IF WE DO NEED TO GET RIGHT OF WAY FROM THAT SIDE, WE'RE GETTING RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN SLO.
RIGHT? SO WE WOULD NEED PARTICIPATION BY THE CITY OF SLO IN THAT CASE.
I THINK MY PRIORITIES WOULD BE AROUND THE PARKS FIRST AND THEN THE SCHOOLS.
SAY I WOULD BE, MY, MY PRIORITY IS FIRST IS THE PARKS AROUND THE PARK.
SO LIKE MASKY TO RESURFACE OR REVITALIZE THAT AREA AND THEN GO INTO THE SCHOOLS AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS OTHER OPTIONS FURTHER.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, SO YEAH.
SO MASKY, RIGHT? IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
SO I'M, I'M HEARING A LOT OF MASKY, SO IF THAT'S CONSENSUS WE CAN LOOK AT MOVING THAT UP AND WE CAN DO THE SAME FOR OLD STEIN AS WELL.
I JUST THINK WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT WOULD TAKE A BACK SEAT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.
I, YEAH, WELL WE, I THINK IT BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD TAKE A BACK SEAT IF WE WERE TO TRY TO MOVE THOSE UP.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED BACK, CORRECT.
WE, THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT EVALUATION PROCESS.
SO, AND IF I COULD JUST, AND I'VE HEARD WHERE SINE MENTIONED, IS THAT A PRIORITY OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LOWER INE? SO, SO THE NO, GO AHEAD KATHY LET ME.
NO, I WAS JUST, THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED WHERE SINE AND ITS CONDITION, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN ON OUR LIST.
I THINK SO LOOK AT ADDING THAT AND SEE WHERE IT SLOTS IN.
SO ONE OF THE ISSUES AGAIN, AND PARTICULARLY DOWN SOUTH, WE HAVE SOME OF THESE ROADS THAT FOR THE FOLKS WHO DRIVE ON IT, THEY'RE A MESS.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE FAR FEWER FOLKS WHO DRIVE ON WHERE SINE THAN DRIVE ON OLD WEEDER STEIN.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE FACTOR WITH IT.
UM, YOU KNOW THE OTHER, THE OTHER ROAD I'LL MENTION 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT UP THERE, IS LOWER SAIM ROAD AND THAT'S FROM 1518 KIND OF OVER TO THE CITY LIMITS LINES.
THAT IS ONE WE ARE TRYING TO GET A GRANT FOR THAT THE MILITARY HAS SET IS A BIG PRIORITY.
WE'LL SUPPORT YOU FOR IT, BUT THAT IS A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY.
IF WE CAN'T GET A GRANT, HOW LONG DO WE KEEP TRYING FOR A GRANT ON THAT BEFORE SOMEBODY SAYS NO, WE GOTTA PULL THE TRIGGER, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S 15 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO THERE'S THIS UNKNOWN THAN THAT TO KEEP IN MIND.
SO I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT, UM, ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE ROADS AND START WITH RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND DESIGN TO GET THEM SHOVEL READY, UM, TO USE A CLICHE TERM.
AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO AFTER OTHER FUNDING GRANTS AM O FUNDS, UH, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE A THROWAWAY COST AT ALL.
SO WHILE WE MAY NOT COMPLETELY FUND ONE OF THE, THE LARGER PROJECTS, WE COULD PARTIALLY FUND IT AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME OTHER MONEY TO, TO GET IT DONE MORE QUICKLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ROADS OR ANY QUESTIONS ON WE CAN MOVE NEXT TO THE PARKS AND THE FACILITIES IF Y'ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT WHEN YOU GET BACK UP THERE.
KATHY, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD JUST STAY OUT HERE.
SO QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS? COUNCILWOMAN WATSON, YOU HAD MENTIONED
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PARKS, BUT WERE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ROADS OF THE CI THAT, THAT ARE NEAR THE PARKS.SO THE BIGGEST ONE ON THE, THE PARK, CIP IS COMMUNITY CIRCLE.
AND AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, JUST TIMING WISE, THAT'S SLIDING OUT.
'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, HILLTOP AND SOME OTHERS THAT ARE GOING.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CASES OF, OF BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THE LOAD TO WORK, RIGHT.
THAT'S GONNA BE A, A HEAVY LIFT WHEN WE DO COMMUNITY CIRCLE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A $10.3 MILLION PROJECT.
QUESTION, WHAT IS THE DELAY WITH THE COMMUNITY CIRCLE PARK? WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DELAY FOR US TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED? IT'S KIND OF A MANPOWER, WORKLOAD ISSUE, I BELIEVE.
LAUREN? WHAT'S THE DELAY? IS IT MORE OF A MANPOWER WORKLOAD ISSUE? UH, UNLESS WE ADD SOME BODIES, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU, YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE TO MANAGE THE PROJECT AND ALSO THERE'LL BE A PROCESS TO IT, RIGHT? ARE WE GONNA GET INPUT AND THINGS COME ON UP, LAUREN.
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES AT PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS.
UM, AND AT EDC AS WELL, THEY WANT TO FUND SOME OF THESE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS, BUT IT IS A WORKLOAD ISSUE FOR US.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE IN 20 21, 22, WHEN WE ADDED THOSE POSITIONS, WE HAD A PARK DEVELOPMENT MANAGER ON THE LIST TO HELP SPECIFICALLY MANAGE THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT FUNDED AT THAT TIME.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST SLATE THIS, THESE PROJECTS IN AMIDST OPERATIONS, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PERSON WORKING ON THESE THINGS.
SO IT'S WHEN I GET THE TIME, UM, TO PUSH THEM FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PARKS? I WILL THROW OUT THERE, THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON HERE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING AND IT'S ACQUIRING LAND IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF SHIRTS AS THE POPULATION GROWS.
NOT NECESSARILY TODAY, BUT ADDITIONAL BALL FIELDS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR A SEGMENT WHERE WE'RE GONNA SEE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE DEDICATING SOME RESOURCES.
OF COURSE WE CAN ASK SCOTT, BUT DEDICATING SOME RESOURCES TO, TO ACQUIRING MORE LAND FOR FUTURE USE.
GOD'S NOT MAKING ANY MORE OF IT AND IT'S NOT GETTING ANY CHEAPER.
SO I KIND OF, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL AS, UM, TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO REVITALIZE PICK RAIL PARK AS FAR AS THE BALL FIELDS DOWN THERE.
AND UM, AND ALSO MAYBE TO, TO INCLUDE SOME SPLASH PADS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT SOME OF OUR PARKS THAT ARE, ARE, THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY.
I WELL WE DO HAVE A PICK ROLL RENOVATION, BUT THAT'S THE POOL AND, BUT YEAH, I BELIEVE YOU'RE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MEYER? YEAH.
DO WE HAVE LIMITATIONS WITH THE FLOODPLAIN FOR THAT OKAY.
YEAH, THERE IS, THERE IS SOME LIMITATIONS, UH, AT, AT DELMAR WITH FLOODWAY FLOOD PLAIN, BUT WE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, AS WE STATED, THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.
SO THERE'S FUTURE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE BEYOND THIS 2031 THAT WILL BE ADDED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, CIP.
SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE PICKLE PARK RENOVATION AS A WHOLE TO INCLUDE, UM, MEYER, AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS THAT WE JUST COMPLETED LAST YEAR.
UM, SPLASH PADS WAS ON THERE AS ANOTHER NEED.
UM, MORE DOG PARKS, MORE SHADE, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOME OF IT MAY NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING ON THE CIP, SOME OF THAT SMALLER STUFF, SO WE'LL INCORPORATE IT INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET.
YEAH, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
I KNOW, UM, UM, LAUREN, SINCE YOU'RE THERE, YES.
THERE WAS A PROJECT IN, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THE WILL AT THE SHIRT SOCCER COMPLEX.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM OVER THERE IS NOT, UM, CAPABLE, UH, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY CAPABLE TO FULFILL, YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS OF THE FIELDS IN ITS CURRENT STATUS.
AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR QUITE, FOR AT LEAST A DECADE OR SO.
SO I I KNOW THE WATER WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS ON IT, IS IT'S CURRENTLY STILL PENDING.
THAT IS A CIP PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THAT'S IN THAT CIP UPDATE THAT COUNCIL GETS IN THEIR PACKET.
WE'RE STILL PENDING NEW STORAGE TANKS.
THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THE DESIGN AND THE VALVE AND SO WE'VE HAD TO GO BACK OUT, HAD PURCHASING TO HELP US SECURE NEW BIDS FOR THE TANKS.
ONCE WE GET THOSE STORAGE TANKS
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IN, WE'LL BE AT THE CAPACITY THAT WE NEED TO RUN THAT SYSTEM FULLY IN THE HOURS THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN WATER AND RESTRICTION HOURS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND EVAPORATION, LOSS AND THAT KIND OF THING.AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE PUMP, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S HAS TWO PUMPS IN THERE, BUT ONE'S ONLY OPERATIONAL CURRENTLY.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT PUMPS THERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, WE ALREADY REPLACED THE WELL PUMP, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BOOSTER PUMPS BETWEEN THE TANKS? YES, CORRECT.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IRRIGATION PUMP, WHICH IS A CONTROLLER, THAT'S SEPARATE.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN WORK THAT IN PROBABLY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
ANYTHING ON THE FACILITIES? YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE SLATED THERE.
UH, I OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST ONE BEING THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX, WE WOULD KIND OF ENTER DESIGN IN 28 29.
UH, THERE'S SOME OTHERS LISTED OUT THERE THAT ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS, I MEAN, WE'LL JUST EVALUATE THAT AS WE GO, BUT THEY'RE PUSHED PRETTY FAR OUT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FIRE STATION FOUR, WHICH IS IN PROCESS IN OF BEING BUILT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? IF NOT, I'LL JUMP DOWN TO WATER AND SEWER OR DRAINAGE.
LET'S JUMP TO DRAINAGE REAL QUICK.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A, LET ME MAKE THIS JUST A TAD BIT SMALLER.
WELL, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE $47 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IDENTIFIED FOR DRAINAGE.
THIS IS, THIS WAS THE LIST THAT YOU SAW WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE CAME TO Y'ALL DURING THE LAST BUDGET ADOPTION PROCESS AND INCREASED THE RATE.
AND THESE ARE THE SCHEDULES THAT ARE, I MEAN THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED OUT.
AND I THINK WE DID, WE GO THROUGH A, WILL WE BE REEVALUATING THIS, KATHY? IS THIS YEAH.
SO WITH OUR NEW FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, ET CETERA, WE'LL KIND OF BE, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR DRAINAGE.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL BE TWEAKING IT.
I DUNNO IF LARRY, YOU WANNA CHIME IN? AND KATHY, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PROJECTS POP UP THIS LAST YEAR THAT'S KIND OF REALLY AFFECTING OUR FUNDING.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE, LARRY, THAT WE'VE KIND OF GOT, UM, SOME ISSUES POPPED UP, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT.
AND SO AGAIN, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE LOOK AT THIS STUFF, HOW THIS STUFF COMES UP, HOW WE ADD TO IT.
SO, UH, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE, UH, MOST FOLKS, COUNTRY COVA SHUT DOWN FOR A WHILE, RIGHT? IT ENDED UP BEING, UH, ALMOST $90,000 PROJECT, UH, ROADWAY WORK.
A LOT OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT WAS BUILT, IT'S PART OF MUD DISTRICT LONG TIME AGO.
UH, IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT METAL PIPES UNDER THE ROAD THEY WASH OUT.
SO A BUNCH OF OPPORTUNITY FOR RECONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA.
UH, WE KIND OF HIT THAT MAJOR ONE.
SO ALSO IN THAT AREA, WE FOUND SOME BRIDGES THAT ARE HAVING, UH, ROADS SETTLING AROUND AND REALLY HAVING MAJOR ISSUES.
AND SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA ACTUALLY ON THE LIST, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE PRIORITIZING THAT A LITTLE HIGHER.
ALSO, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE STUDY FOR THE DRAINAGE, UH, KIND OF HOW WE'RE GONNA SELL THE BONDS FOR THAT, UH, THEY TRY TO, UH, ALIGN THAT MONEY A LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATELY.
SO WE WOULDN'T HIT THE IMPACT TO THIS FUND AS WELL, OR FOR THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE DRAINAGE THAT WE ANTICIPATED IN.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL HAVE TO SLIDE DOWN JUST SO WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THAT, UH, AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE'RE NOT, BUT TO BE CLEAR LIKE THAT, THE COUNTRY CLUB, THAT WAS $90,000.
HOW MUCH OF YOUR MONEY YOU HAD THIS YEAR FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS, THAT WAS, UH, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
ALSO, WE HAD SOME OTHER STUFF COME UP, UM, UH, THE DET ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, LOWE'S WALL, UH, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UH, WITH TWO, TWO PROJECTS WIPED OUT ALREADY.
OUR, OUR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR, MAJOR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN DO SOME WORK, UH, BORK FILLED, UH, HARVEST DRIVE UP THERE.
AND SO THOSE IMPACTED AS WELL.
AND SO, UH, JUST UNANTICIPATED THINGS POP UP.
UH, WE, WE CARRIED MORE IN THESE MAJOR PROJECTS.
WE, WE HAVE THAT SMALL PROJECT LIST THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE CIP, BUT IT, OF COURSE, IT AFFECTS THE OPERATING BUDGET AS WE GO.
SO, SO IF I COULD ADD, UM, MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST AND THE THINGS THAT LARRY TALKED ABOUT ARE
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REALLY LARGE MAINTENANCE TYPE PROJECTS.THEY'RE NOT REALLY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO, UM, CREATE, UH, A DIFFERENCE IN THE FLOODPLAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE JUST MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, YOU ALL AUTHORIZED US TO, UM, PROVIDE INTEREST AND BASICALLY SIGN UP WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO DO A FLOOD, UH, MITIGATION EVALUATION.
UH, AND THEY'LL BE, WE DID TURN IN THE, THE FORM FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEY'LL BE GETTING STARTED WITH THAT PLAN FAIRLY SOON.
THAT EFFORT WILL IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WILL POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY MAKE A, A DENT AND MAKE A MODIFICATION TO OUR FLOODPLAIN AREAS.
UM, BUT THOSE, THOSE WILL JUST BE ADDITIONS TO THE LIST THAT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO TRY AND FIND FUNDING FOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK UP FOR WATER AND SEWER BIG SHEETS.
WE WANNA FLIP TO THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRINTED PACKET.
THAT'S WHERE THE, WHERE WATER AND SEWER IS.
BIG PROJECT THAT'S WRAPPING UP IS THE CORBETT GROUND STORAGE TANK.
WE'VE HAD, THAT'S BEEN A BIG ONE FOR US.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE OUT ON THE HORIZON, THERE'S SOME OTHER RELATIVELY LARGE ONES.
LIKE THE ELEVATED IN GROUND STORAGE TANK PAINTING IS $13 MILLION.
AND SURELY THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE PAINTING, I THINK IT'S FOR REHAB, RIGHT? DID I READ THAT WRONG? OH, IT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT.
SO LUMPED INTO THAT OUT FIVE YEARS IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS EACH.
AND THEN ANOTHER CONSIDERABLE ONE IS THE EAST LIVE OAK TO I 35 DEDICATED WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN.
AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT AS WELL.
TOTAL $32 MILLION, THE TOTAL WATER PROJECTS OF $186 MILLION.
AND I'LL SCROLL DOWN TO SEWER IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON THAT.
SO ONE THING I WANNA POINT ON THIS ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST, CCMA SOUTH PLAN EXPANSION FOR $55 MILLION.
SO THAT IS ON HERE BECAUSE THIS WAS ADOPTED BEFORE, WE HAD A MORE CLEAR PICTURE OF HOW THAT WOULD BE FUNDED.
THOSE BONDS, AS BRIAN ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED SOME OF THOSE OR WE DIDN'T ISSUE.
CCMA HAS ALREADY ISSUED 9 MILLION OF IT THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED TO START THE DESIGN PROCESS.
THEY'RE GONNA ISSUE ALL THE BONDS, BUT WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR 'EM AND WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR 'EM THROUGH THE OPERATING BUDGET.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A BIG CIP PROJECT ON HERE SO THAT THAT 55 MILLION COMES OUT OF THIS AMOUNT.
BUT WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR THAT 55 MILLION.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE LESS THAN THAT.
SO NEXT TIME YOU SEE THIS, IT WON'T BE ON THERE.
AND IT'S, IT'S CLEARLY THE LARGEST PROJECT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OTHERS.
WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT THAT'S PUSHED, UH, PRETTY FAR OUT THERE FOR A TOTAL OF $210 MILLION.
SO ALL TOLD ON THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE, WE'VE GOT $396 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IDENTIFIED.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? ALL RIGHT, I, I THINK WE'VE COVERED THE ENTIRETY OF THE CIP.
IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME.
WE'LL GET IT ON THE LIST AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, RUN THAT THROUGH THE SAUSAGE GRINDER AS WELL.
BUT I DID HEAR THAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE POSSIBLY MOVING UP MASKY AND OLD STEIN AND SINE OR IS THAT SOMETHING AFTER THE EXPLANATION THAT MAYBE MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE? YEAH, WE'D LIKE TO EVALUATE THAT.
UH, BUT, 'CAUSE WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT MIGHT GET PUSHED BACK IF WE DO THAT.
THAT'LL DEFINITELY BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
BUT DEFINITELY WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
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ALRIGHT.YEAH, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, UH, JUST A STATEMENT HERE THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF OUR ROAD MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, MUCH CLOSER.
'CAUSE I KNOW FOR ME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS ROAD, THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING OUR ROADWAYS HERE IN CHURCH.
SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S GOTTA BE A TIME PERIOD WHERE WE GOTTA FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING BIG TRUCKS COMING INTO OUR CITY AND PUTTING MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THESE ROADS.
SO WE NEED TO HELP MANAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE.
SO, ONE THING I WOULD SAY, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IF YOU DO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A GOOD PLACE FOR MAINTENANCE RELATED STUFF, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PLACES ON OUR WEBSITE THAT HAVE A BUNCH OF INFORMATION.
I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN 'EM BEFORE.
IT'S, AND I'M JUST SAYING IT FOR THE BROADER PUBLIC TO HEAR AS WELL.
THE, WE HAVE A DASHBOARD FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE STUFF, POTHOLES, PATCHES, THAT KIND OF THING, SIDEWALK REPAIRS.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT A DASHBOARD FOR THE CIP AND THAT'LL SHOW THE PROJECTS.
IT'LL GIVE A DESCRIPTION, IT'LL HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, IT'LL HAVE THE SCHEDULE, ET CETERA.
I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEIR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SAYING TO BE TODAY CURRENT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO UPDATE IT VERY FREQUENTLY.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD RESOURCES TO GET THE, THE GENERALIZED PICTURE.
THIS IS A GOOD ONE, RIGHT? GO INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, THE CIP BUDGET ON THE WEBPAGE UNDER THE FINANCE SECTION.
YOU GOT YOUR OPERATING BUDGET, YOU GOT YOUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.
THOSE ARE ALL REALLY, REALLY, IT IS.
GOT REALLY, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, ALRIGHT LOOK, I LIVE OFF OF OLD WIEDER STEIN AND IT'S PUSHED OUT TO 28, 29, YOU KNOW, WOW.
OKAY, WHY IS THAT? I CAN START ASKING QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY FIND THE PROJECT OF INTEREST ON THERE AND CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE IT IS.
YOU CAN GO IN BEYOND THIS, JUST BELOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO THE DETAIL SHEET AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, THESE SHEETS DOWN HERE, LET ME SEE IF I CAN JUMP TO ONE QUICKLY.
SO THEY INCLUDE, EACH ONE OF EVERY PROJECT THAT'S IN HERE INCLUDES ONE OF THESE SHEETS.
AND IT HAS, THE TYPE OF, THE PROJECT IN THIS CASE IS WASTEWATER.
WHAT IS IT? WELL, IT'S THE WOMEN HAULING CREEK MAINE.
IT'S GOT A DESCRIPTION WHEN, WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO START, WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO COMPLETE.
IT'S GOT WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE SPENT.
SO EVERY SINGLE PROJECT YOU SAW ON THERE, IT'S GOT SOME DETAIL.
AND THIS IS A LITTLE MORE STATIC BECAUSE IT'S ONCE A YEAR WHEN WE ADOPT IT.
BUT IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START TO KIND OF ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
SO YES MA'AM, I JUST WANTED TO, WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT ARE WANTING THEIR ROADS DONE, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROAD IS WORSE OR WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR IT.
AND WHEN YOU, WE DON'T RAISE TAXES, WE HAVE TO GO WITHIN OUR BUDGET OR LOOKING AT WHEN WE CAN TAKE A BOND.
SO I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE ROAD.
WE'VE GOT OVER 200 MILE ROADS WE HAVE TO FIX AND IT COSTS MONEY.
AND SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST SOMETIMES A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN BEING ABLE TO TAKE IT JUST OUT OF THE, THE GENERAL FUND OR SALES TAX REVENUE.
'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A WORSE ROAD.
IF YOU TALK LIKE WHISPER MEADOWS, I CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM THE HOA PRESIDENT WITH THEIR ROADS.
'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, AND IF YOU DRIVE THEIR ROADS, YOU WILL BOTTOM OUT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING REALLY SLOW.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH ALL THE ROADS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN, WE HAVE TO, TO DO A PRIORITY AND WE'LL GET TO THEIR ROAD IS JUST TAKING TIME AND THEN UNDERSTANDING THE COST TO DO A ROAD.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO DO JUST A MILE A ROAD FOR A CITY OUR SIZE.
I WILL, I'LL OFFER THIS, NOT ONLY DOES THIS HELP US HAVE A REALISTIC WAY TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, IT ALSO HELPS ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
IF SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT SOMETHING'S THREE, A THREE MINUTE, UH, THREE MINUTES, THREE YEARS AWAY, OR IF THEY KNOW THAT IT'S IN THE PROCESS BEING CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE KIND OF DEAL.
I THINK THEY, I THINK THAT GIVES THEM SOME COMFORT.
AND IT MAY NOT COMPLETELY ALY ALLEVIATE THE FACT THAT, GOSH, FOR THREE MORE YEARS I GOTTA DRIVE ON THIS HORRIBLE ROAD.
AND MAYOR, THIS, THIS ESSENTIALLY LOOK BACK OVER, ESSENTIALLY ENDS OUR CONVERSATION.
WE DID HAVE THESE SHEETS IN HERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.
WE JUST ENDED UP GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION.
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REITERATE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE MY OLD PASTOR USED TO DO.HE'D TELL YOU WHAT HE WAS GONNA PREACH ON AND HE PREACH ON IT AND THEN HE'D TELL YOU WHAT HE JUST PREACHED ON.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE IS JUST ASK AGAIN BACK AT THIS SLIDE.
SO WITHIN THIS CONSTRUCT WE WERE SEEKING VALIDATION FROM COUNSEL WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD FEEL OF THAT.
AND THERE, THERE'S THAT IS THERE.
AND ALSO WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING SOME OF YOUR PRIORITIES.
WE'VE MADE SOME NOTES ON SOME THINGS IN TERMS OF SAY, STREET MAINTENANCE OR CIP PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE TAKING ALL THAT, WE'RE TAKING NOTES, WE'RE TAKING IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO, AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK OF THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS FURTHER OR IF WE, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 1252.